"Footballing success comes to the places that voted AGAINST Brexit"
..........and after the ten plagues and relegation Brexiteers will be parked in a hot and particularly unpleasant corner of Hartlipool for the rest of eternity
Hartlepool is no punishment. Send them to Huddersfield.
Except GRIMSBY wasn't filmed in Grimsby, because it wasn't grim enough to meet with expectations of "ooop North". Been inching into the Tory column for many years now. And the Grimsby Town FC ground is actually in Tory Cleethorpes.
They've missed out the most interesting recommendation
There's just the small problem of Theresa May's red lines and characterisation of keeping a role for the ECJ as 'not really leaving the European Union at all'.
We need to ensure our world class legal sector isn't compromised by Brexit.
The voters will have to lump it for the greater good.
Talking of the greater good. Any news of your transfer to Paris ?
I should have news on the job front in the next few weeks.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
They've missed out the most interesting recommendation
There's just the small problem of Theresa May's red lines and characterisation of keeping a role for the ECJ as 'not really leaving the European Union at all'.
We need to ensure our world class legal sector isn't compromised by Brexit.
The voters will have to lump it for the greater good.
Talking of the greater good. Any news of your transfer to Paris ?
I should have news on the job front in the next few weeks.
"Footballing success comes to the places that voted AGAINST Brexit"
..........and after the ten plagues and relegation Brexiteers will be parked in a hot and particularly unpleasant corner of Hartlipool for the rest of eternity
Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS..................
And it's happening because Remain couldn't score in a brothel.
Do you have such faith in marketing that if the presentation goes slightly awry a country of 64,000,000 (Before Scotland and Ireland take flight) deserves to be screwed?
The problem was the product, rather than the marketing. You can polish a turd, but it remains a turd.
Have the government already indicated their wish was to completely rule out CJEU?
Yes, it is one of Mrs May's red lines.
Well that's that then - any compromise was already going to be painted by some as 'not really leaving at all', one this significant and which has already been committed to, will not be rolled back on the committee report is clearly just for the record.
Mr. kle4, people sometimes wibble about the Black Death leading to higher wages for peasants and more rights.
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
They've missed out the most interesting recommendation
There's just the small problem of Theresa May's red lines and characterisation of keeping a role for the ECJ as 'not really leaving the European Union at all'.
We need to ensure our world class legal sector isn't compromised by Brexit.
The voters will have to lump it for the greater good.
Talking of the greater good. Any news of your transfer to Paris ?
I should have news on the job front in the next few weeks.
What about your passport and visa to leave Yorkshire?
Mr. kle4, people sometimes wibble about the Black Death leading to higher wages for peasants and more rights.
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
I don't think it was advocating it as a solution for today's problems, merely a recognition that in broad historical terms, sometimes it has taken terrible tragedies to lead to overall societal improvements.
They've missed out the most interesting recommendation
There's just the small problem of Theresa May's red lines and characterisation of keeping a role for the ECJ as 'not really leaving the European Union at all'.
We need to ensure our world class legal sector isn't compromised by Brexit.
The voters will have to lump it for the greater good.
Talking of the greater good. Any news of your transfer to Paris ?
I should have news on the job front in the next few weeks.
What about your passport and visa to leave Yorkshire?
I leave Yorkshire on a daily basis. Fortunately I have all my inoculations for visiting Lancashire.
Mr. kle4, people sometimes wibble about the Black Death leading to higher wages for peasants and more rights.
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
The Tudors? Isn't that dangerously modern for you MD?
Mr. kle4, people sometimes wibble about the Black Death leading to higher wages for peasants and more rights.
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
I don't think it was advocating it as a solution for today's problems, merely a recognition that in broad historical terms, sometimes it has taken terrible tragedies to lead to overall societal improvements.
Ah, now I understand the raison d'etre behind the Labour party
"Footballing success comes to the places that voted AGAINST Brexit"
..........and after the ten plagues and relegation Brexiteers will be parked in a hot and particularly unpleasant corner of Hartlipool for the rest of eternity
Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS Brexit is for MORONS..................
And it's happening because Remain couldn't score in a brothel.
Do you have such faith in marketing that if the presentation goes slightly awry a country of 64,000,000 (Before Scotland and Ireland take flight) deserves to be screwed?
The problem was the product, rather than the marketing. You can polish a turd, but it remains a turd.
As Roger should know, the best marketing or advertising in the world can't save a duff product....funnily enough, purveyors of inferior products usually blame the advertising.....
Have the government already indicated their wish was to completely rule out CJEU?
Yes, it is one of Mrs May's red lines.
Well that's that then - any compromise was already going to be painted by some as 'not really leaving at all', one this significant and which has already been committed to, will not be rolled back on the committee report is clearly just for the record.
Leavers are intent on destroying the legal sector.
When the revolution comes after Brexit is a failure, we will remember and who to take to Traitors' Gate.
Mr. kle4, people sometimes wibble about the Black Death leading to higher wages for peasants and more rights.
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
Can you imagine 22m people dying in 2 years in modern Britain? Followed by recurrent outbreaks carrying off a couple of million each time?
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
The contrast with the original twelve football league clubs is instructive:
Preston North End Blackburn Rovers Everton Accrington Stanley Burnley Bolton Stoke City West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Wolverhampton Wanderers Derby County Notts County
This looks a far more Leave-dominated list, though I haven't done the research.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
I haven't traveled first class on the east coast main line since Virgin took over. I am worried they have ruined it given the pitiful experience that first class on the west coast main line is.
Plus there's little to beat passing through Berwick sitting in, ahem, first class with a glass of wine in hand.
I have to say lunch on the Cornish Riviera as the train passed west of Exeter round Dawlish is or rather was a highlight.
I'm sure SeanT has done this plenty of times too but from Paddington get yourself sorted in first and go for the second sitting for lunch if you're going as far as St Erth. You get "invited" to your table and then it's a relaxing meal as the train heads west from Exeter with coffee from Bodmin and a gentle invitation to depart from Truro.
Have the government already indicated their wish was to completely rule out CJEU?
Yes, it is one of Mrs May's red lines.
The examples in that extract are 0.001% of the CJEU, I think we could come to an arrangement.
If she's committed herself to 'no CJEU' she'll have to deal with not only the types who would see any compromise as not really leaving, but accusations of backpedaling, and we've seen how May deals with those. Appearing to keep her word will be more important than a deal which it will be hard to explain to the man on the street why it is or is not good. Granted, this was no manifesto promise, but if she was unequivocal, I can't see how she would be willing to take on the fight to go against her word.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
Looks like the book, though this is the article on it I was thinking about
Plus there's little to beat passing through Berwick sitting in, ahem, first class with a glass of wine in hand.
I have to say lunch on the Cornish Riviera as the train passed west of Exeter round Dawlish is or rather was a highlight.
I'm sure SeanT has done this plenty of times too but from Paddington get yourself sorted in first and go for the second sitting for lunch if you're going as far as St Erth. You get "invited" to your table and then it's a relaxing meal as the train heads west from Exeter with coffee from Bodmin and a gentle invitation to depart from Truro.
That's what it used to be anyway.
Yes and even only as far as Bodmin is also very civilised.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
I'd expect the Economist to a feature comparing Brexit to the Black Death.
Mr. Pubgoer, sometimes I learn things that are vulgarly modern.
Mr. F, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. We have a huge number of large population centres coupled with mass transit, and an increasing number of antibiotic resistant strains of disease.
The problem is there's been wolf cried repeatedly (remember the pig flu 'pandemic'?). I don't imagine warnings will be taken seriously until it's too late.
Still, the news reports will be something to behold. "Just 47 years after the vote to leave the EU, Britain was gripped by the Red Death. David Lammy has called for London to become a necropolis."
The contrast with the original twelve football league clubs is instructive:
Preston North End Blackburn Rovers Everton Accrington Stanley Burnley Bolton Stoke City West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Wolverhampton Wanderers Derby County Notts County
This looks a far more Leave-dominated list, though I haven't done the research.
No club outside a very broadly defined "Northwest" of the country there.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
I'd expect the Economist to a feature comparing Brexit to the Black Death.
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
Looks like the book, though this is the article on it I was thinking about
Question - there was an article recently about warfare and disaster historically being the greatest reducer of inequality, or something along those lines - does anyone recall the piece, my Google fu is insufficient
There's a new book out on the topic. Recently reviewed in Economist and Guardian.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
I'd expect the Economist to a feature comparing Brexit to the Black Death.
Yesterday Alastair Meeks dissuaded me from writing an article that would have said of Brexit,
As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood.
IS there any evidence that the way people voted in the referendum is the same way they would vote again? Have the Nation's view of BREXIT hardened, weakened or stayed the same?
Quite a few Leavers will have snuffed it by now due to old age.
Hmm. At the other end of the league being in a remain supporting area isn't helping poor old Leyton Orient...
Has not helped York City non league and probably going out of that .However they beat in Lincoln City in a cup so having a day at Wembley maybe to say goodbye.York was heavily remain.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
The contrast with the original twelve football league clubs is instructive:
Preston North End Blackburn Rovers Everton Accrington Stanley Burnley Bolton Stoke City West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Wolverhampton Wanderers Derby County Notts County
This looks a far more Leave-dominated list, though I haven't done the research.
No club outside a very broadly defined "Northwest" of the country there.
Or...no clubs outside of a very broadly defined "Midlands" there....
Surprised if this passes but interesting development
"Germany says it will deport two men born in the country but whose parents are foreign - the first such case in German history. The men, a 27-year-old Algerian and a 22-year-old Nigerian, were arrested last month on suspicion of planning a terror attack.
A gun and an flag of the so-called Islamic State were found at their homes during police raids in the central city of Gottingen. But the men have never been charged. The criminal proceedings were dropped because police never established whether the suspects had planned to carry out an attack. Police say the two men are "dangerous". Lower Saxony Interior Minister Boris Pistorius said the deportations would take place as soon as possible, and certainly before mid-April.
He said discussions were already under way with Algeria and Nigeria to facilitate this, and the two men would be subject to a "life-long re-entry ban", preventing their return to Germany.
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
Just as important, there is the issue of the journey from New Street to Curzon Street half a mile away in Birmingham, which is quite a daunting trek with luggage. How long should you allow to make sure you make a connection? More generally, the lack of connectivity to the HS2 terminus within Birmingham is basically why HS2 is going to be a white elephant for most in the West Midlands connurbation. People will find that the total journey times to London using HS2 won't be any shorter than on the West Coast Main Line now, and the cost will for once make Virgin Trains look cheap. And if you want to get some decent value for a sake of a few minutes more, there is the Chiltern Line.
The experience of many HS lines on the continent (e.g. Spain) is that, having sunk mega billions into their construction, they've turned out to have passenger numbers far less than the rosy projections which were used to make the (already questionable) cost-benefit case for building them.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
Dear Lord you are a tit and a snob. The establishment have fixed things to their satisfaction for a long time and find it shocking, shocking I tell you, that those who haven't really shared in any joy from our EU membership chose to vote differently. I have an honours degree, two professional qualifications a six figure salary and yet I somehow was 'duped' into voting for the sovereignty of my own country's parliament because I'm an ignorant pleb? Up yours. You and your kind explain the vote and the ongoing divide.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
The battle was lost in 1867, Roger, once the urban working classes got the vote.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
The fuddyduddy in the Riviera gin palace knows best. You bet.
The contrast with the original twelve football league clubs is instructive:
Preston North End Blackburn Rovers Everton Accrington Stanley Burnley Bolton Stoke City West Bromwich Albion Aston Villa Wolverhampton Wanderers Derby County Notts County
This looks a far more Leave-dominated list, though I haven't done the research.
No club outside a very broadly defined "Northwest" of the country there.
Or...no clubs outside of a very broadly defined "Midlands" there....
Even today there are still suspicions that the Football League is biased to clubs north of Watford (Northants). One thing that is still biased to the North is the composition of the referees. I guess that it's more a reflection that becoming a professional referee is more attractive to people from oop north.
Dear Lord you are a tit and a snob. The establishment have fixed things to their satisfaction for a long time and find it shocking, shocking I tell you, that those who haven't really shared in any joy from our EU membership chose to vote differently. I have an honours degree, two professional qualifications a six figure salary and yet I somehow was 'duped' into voting for the sovereignty of my own country's parliament because I'm an ignorant pleb? Up yours. You and your kind explain the vote and the ongoing divide.
He's thrashing about on your hook Roger, see if you can land him.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
Brexit hasn't divided the country and brought it to the brink of ruination. Those divisions were already there, and have been since before the mere few decades of the EUs existence. Brexit has only dragged the divisions to the surface. It was always going to happen. We aren't divided because of Brexit, we're Brexiting because of the divide. You and your politics have left too many people behind.
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
Brexit hasn't divided the country and brought it to the brink of ruination. Those divisions were already there, and have been since before the mere few decades of the EUs existence. Brexit has only dragged the divisions to the surface. It was always going to happen. We aren't divided because of Brexit, we're Brexiting because of the divide. You and your politics have left too many people behind.
As someone commented on both Brexit and Trump - both were bricks thrown through the establishment's window - NOW will you listen?
I haven't traveled first class on the east coast main line since Virgin took over. I am worried they have ruined it given the pitiful experience that first class on the west coast main line is.
Then you have been missing out, Mr. Alistair. First class on Virgin East Coast Mainline is most satisfactory; excellent service, effectively unlimited free booze and pretty good free food. The carriages are getting a bit old but still fine.
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
There was also the ill-fated Nightstar. Some of the coaches have found use in Canada, while others have been dumped in a field in Ontario:
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
There was also the ill-fated Nightstar. Some of the coaches have found use in Canada, while others have been dumped in a field in Ontario:
In other news, the Intercity ExPress (IEP) project goes from bad to worse. Apparently every day they're not used after May next year, the taxpayer pays the owners £400,000. Which would be fine except for the fact that the electrification project is way behind schedule ...
You do have to wonder about Scottish education (Maths, Geography, History) when one very young Nat MP complained about a single city in England (London) having more MPs than Scotland......
You do have to wonder about Scottish education (Maths, Geography, History) when one very young Nat MP complained about a single city in England (London) having more MPs than Scotland......
You do have to wonder about Scottish education (Maths, Geography, History) when one very young Nat MP complained about a single city in England (London) having more MPs than Scotland......
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
I've been on the ex NoL sleeper trains between Toronto and Montreal. More specifically, the tunnel and the north of London international trains were planned before Ryanair etc existed. The economics, already, charitably, shaky, were completely obliterated by the budget airlines. Only an enthusiast would take a train from Manchester to Amsterdam when you can fly quicker and cheaper.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from immigration to inflation falling wages and rising prices.
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
Brexit hasn't divided the country and brought it to the brink of ruination. Those divisions were already there, and have been since before the mere few decades of the EUs existence. Brexit has only dragged the divisions to the surface. It was always going to happen. We aren't divided because of Brexit, we're Brexiting because of the divide. You and your politics have left too many people behind.
Can you define his politics as you are a just talking in cliches.
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes Times / YouGov GB weekly voting intention 20-21 Mar (changes since last wk) Con 41 (-3) Lab 25 (-2) LD 11 (+1) Ukip 12 (+3) Other 11 (+2)
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes Times / YouGov GB weekly voting intention 20-21 Mar (changes since last wk) Con 41 (-3) Lab 25 (-2) LD 11 (+1) Ukip 12 (+3) Other 11 (+2)
Plus there's little to beat passing through Berwick sitting in, ahem, first class with a glass of wine in hand.
I have to say lunch on the Cornish Riviera as the train passed west of Exeter round Dawlish is or rather was a highlight.
I'm sure SeanT has done this plenty of times too but from Paddington get yourself sorted in first and go for the second sitting for lunch if you're going as far as St Erth. You get "invited" to your table and then it's a relaxing meal as the train heads west from Exeter with coffee from Bodmin and a gentle invitation to depart from Truro.
That's what it used to be anyway.
Yes and even only as far as Bodmin is also very civilised.
Bodmin has a delightful steam railway line as well if memory serves. By Truro, I was very often the only one left in the dining car as the staff were trying to pack up before Penzance.
I don't know if the full dining service still exists even on the Riviera. If you got the Royal Duchy, catering ended at Plymouth but on the Riviera you could still get coffee or tea well into Cornwall but by Truro the train was quiet.
Assuming the train was on time, it was a few minutes wait for the connection to St Ives which although very different from the Riviera was and remains a brief scenic interlude.
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
I've been on the ex NoL sleeper trains between Toronto and Montreal. More specifically, the tunnel and the north of London international trains were planned before Ryanair etc existed. The economics, already, charitably, shaky, were completely obliterated by the budget airlines. Only an enthusiast would take a train from Manchester to Amsterdam when you can fly quicker and cheaper.
And hence why the HS2 to HS1 link is the least important part of the project, and why it got canned. Especially as it was both controversial and a compromise.
I still think it would have been rather neat if Crossrail could have been used to get trains from HS2 at Old Oak Common to HS1 at Stratford. But sadly, no.
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes Times / YouGov GB weekly voting intention 20-21 Mar (changes since last wk) Con 41 (-3) Lab 25 (-2) LD 11 (+1) Ukip 12 (+3) Other 11 (+2)
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
There was also the ill-fated Nightstar. Some of the coaches have found use in Canada, while others have been dumped in a field in Ontario:
In other news, the Intercity ExPress (IEP) project goes from bad to worse. Apparently every day they're not used after May next year, the taxpayer pays the owners £400,000. Which would be fine except for the fact that the electrification project is way behind schedule ...
I remain convinced that HS2 not connecting directly into St. Pancras is as bonkers as bonkers can be. Only in UK...
I also prefer to use the train when visiting Europe.
40 mins from Wolverhampton to Birmingham International on the West Coast Main Line. Then a 2 minute journey on the low tech but effective free cable "train" from the station to the airport. Highly recommended.
Arf. That they are not going to link HS2 to HS1 is a disgrace.
In 1994, we were 'sort of' promised direct trains from Manchester or B'ham to Paris and Brussels once the tunnel opened. Instead, a white elephant station was built at Waterloo. (Direct trains from Shrewsbury and Hereford briefly travelled there, operated by Arriva).
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
The regional Eurotunnel services were called the NoL (North of London). They actually bought the trains for it, which got rather underused - you used to see them on the East Coast.
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
I've been on the ex NoL sleeper trains between Toronto and Montreal. More specifically, the tunnel and the north of London international trains were planned before Ryanair etc existed. The economics, already, charitably, shaky, were completely obliterated by the budget airlines. Only an enthusiast would take a train from Manchester to Amsterdam when you can fly quicker and cheaper.
And hence why the HS2 to HS1 link is the least important part of the project, and why it got canned. Especially as it was both controversial and a compromise.
I still think it would have been rather neat if Crossrail could have been used to get trains from HS2 at Old Oak Common to HS1 at Stratford. But sadly, no.
I think it's stupid not to build this this line and not have the option of running trains from Birmingham to Paris/Brussels directly.
I reckon HS2 is going to be the railway equivalent of the M6 Toll.
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Thought I should say it before anywhere else but isn't United's area mainly London and hence even more remain?
But Tim Montgomerie, a big MUFC fan, is hardly in the remain camp.
Well so am I and I voted leave too. The table is another way of showing the divide between the big urban centres and the rest. Successful clubs tend to be in the former.
That's a good idea.......let all the unsuccessful struggling backwaters have a vote on how to bring the successful wealthy world ranked super-cities down to their level,
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
My God ! Let the poor vote. Madness.
There was a poll on the news yesterday which said that people's concerns had now shifted from
.
Can you define his politics as you are a just talking in cliches.
His politics is all the governments of the past half century. My politics too, I'll admit. Tory, Labour, the brief dalliance with the coalition. Vast swathes of the population feel disenfranchised. It hasn't worked well for many sectors of the population. I suppose people are just ready for a change. That change is manifested by Brexit. Now I know that "No matter how you vote, the bloody government always gets in" is a problem, and we can only vote for the people put up by the parties, and Brexit might be absolutely catastrophic, but the politics of the last 50 years is obsolete.
But that said, in this age of austerity, should the council prioritise this? Let the Yorkshire county set who keep voting for austerity dip into their pockets to raise the additional 4m....
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes Times / YouGov GB weekly voting intention 20-21 Mar (changes since last wk) Con 41 (-3) Lab 25 (-2) LD 11 (+1) Ukip 12 (+3) Other 11 (+2)
UKIP +3? Yeh, right.
And so it begins - imagine, it's May 2020, the first PMQs of the new Parliament and Prime Minister Douglas Carswell stands ready to take his first question from Opposition Leader Tim Farron as the remnants of the Conservative and Labour parties skulk in the shadows.
I think it's stupid not to build this this line and not have the option of running trains from Birmingham to Paris/Brussels directly.
I reckon HS2 is going to be the railway equivalent of the M6 Toll.
I disagree. But we shall see.
The biggest threat to HS2 - still - is Euston, which might be a massive pit for money as well as engineering. It's worrying that they still don't appear to have a firm hand on the redevelopment.
As for the HS2-HS1 link: it was going to be a single line, built at massive expense alongside an existing line. It was a compromise. It was a nicety, not a must-have.
You do have to wonder about Scottish education (Maths, Geography, History) when one very young Nat MP complained about a single city in England (London) having more MPs than Scotland......
I wonder if she read any of the replies.
You're assuming she can read.......
The arriviste snobbery of the Scotch migrant made good, always a joy.
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People who think correlation equates to causation shouldn't be allowed near graphs.
The City Ground is in Rushcliffe so Nottingham Forest would have been in a Conservative constituency but they were relegated in 1997.
Bye for now!
Which is true. But if a third of the population today died in agony I can't imagine the survivors would welcome the idea of people a hundred years later cheering on the greater degree of equality that occurred as a result.
Also, women had better rights under the Saxons than the Normans, and there was less torture before the Tudors than during their dynasty.
Isn't that dangerously modern for you MD?
"As time drags on, this ban should either be extended to all countries, or allowed to expire. Anything else would be prejudicial and ineffectual."
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2017/03/another-arab-ban-1
When the revolution comes after Brexit is a failure, we will remember and who to take to Traitors' Gate.
A total, utter lack of long-term vision.
The Marylebone to B'ham line could do most of the work of the early length of HS2 for say £5 bn, if electrified and speeded up to 100-110 mph, using better signalling to add extra capacity (a line's capacity is greater at 100 mph than 200 mph).
Genius! I wonder which Political giant thought of that one
Preston North End
Blackburn Rovers
Everton
Accrington Stanley
Burnley
Bolton
Stoke City
West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Derby County
Notts County
This looks a far more Leave-dominated list, though I haven't done the research.
Unite has quietly shifted its support to Afzal Khan in Gorton selection, rather than Momentum choice Yasime Dar.
Momentum source says agreed quietly by political unite officers at national level, complaining of a stitch up
I would point out every Labour selection is a stitch up though. Someone somewhere has always been stitched up. Often by the unions
Or in this case Tom Watson and Keith Vaz. Just comes down to who's better at stitching.
I'm sure SeanT has done this plenty of times too but from Paddington get yourself sorted in first and go for the second sitting for lunch if you're going as far as St Erth. You get "invited" to your table and then it's a relaxing meal as the train heads west from Exeter with coffee from Bodmin and a gentle invitation to depart from Truro.
That's what it used to be anyway.
The executive summary - socialism, almost as bad as the black death, almost.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/scheidel-great-leveler-inequality-violence/517164/
Mr. F, it's not beyond the bounds of possibility. We have a huge number of large population centres coupled with mass transit, and an increasing number of antibiotic resistant strains of disease.
The problem is there's been wolf cried repeatedly (remember the pig flu 'pandemic'?). I don't imagine warnings will be taken seriously until it's too late.
Still, the news reports will be something to behold.
"Just 47 years after the vote to leave the EU, Britain was gripped by the Red Death. David Lammy has called for London to become a necropolis."
Ugh.
Actually I still do some nights.
Anyway, kle4
http://www.economist.com/news/books-and-arts/21717801-only-catastrophe-truly-reduces-inequality-according-historical-survey-lessons
As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see the River Tiber foaming with much blood.
In fact, Jeremy Corbyn would likely be set to win the next election too ...
SURPRISE SURPRISE!
A transitory moment in time when the newspapers were full of 'Calais' and terrorists trundling through Europe..
The craziness of setting up a vote that overturns 45 years of governance on what amounts to the whim of a very ignorant section of the population who know nothing beyond yesterday's headlines marshalled by a small number of right-wing opportunists
"Germany says it will deport two men born in the country but whose parents are foreign - the first such case in German history.
The men, a 27-year-old Algerian and a 22-year-old Nigerian, were arrested last month on suspicion of planning a terror attack.
A gun and an flag of the so-called Islamic State were found at their homes during police raids in the central city of Gottingen.
But the men have never been charged.
The criminal proceedings were dropped because police never established whether the suspects had planned to carry out an attack. Police say the two men are "dangerous".
Lower Saxony Interior Minister Boris Pistorius said the deportations would take place as soon as possible, and certainly before mid-April.
He said discussions were already under way with Algeria and Nigeria to facilitate this, and the two men would be subject to a "life-long re-entry ban", preventing their return to Germany.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39348270
The experience of many HS lines on the continent (e.g. Spain) is that, having sunk mega billions into their construction, they've turned out to have passenger numbers far less than the rosy projections which were used to make the (already questionable) cost-benefit case for building them.
Macron 26%
Le Pen 24.5%
Fillon 17%
http://elabe.fr/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/21032017_bfmtv_lexpress_intentions-de-vote-presidentielles-vague-5-1.pdf
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/22/uk-based-airlines-told-to-move-to-europe-after-brexit-or-lose-major-routes
We aren't divided because of Brexit, we're Brexiting because of the divide. You and your politics have left too many people behind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Eurostar
As for your comment on the Marylebone line: nope. This was looked into, and the problem is that the line's too busy. Your price is also rather optimistic: the experience of the disastrous ECML upgrade and the Great Western electrification shows the costs of upgrading existing routes.
It's a shame that the Great Central didn't have the money to build a proper line into London, and instead shared an existing route (albeit upgraded) from ?Aylesbury? south (aside from the last couple of miles into Marylebone). Another route into London would be really useful now.
https://tinyurl.com/mh4m3ml
https://twitter.com/christopherhope/status/844278390052012032
Be interesting to see what happens if the airlines just say no. It sounds like a delinquent request.
In other news, the Intercity ExPress (IEP) project goes from bad to worse. Apparently every day they're not used after May next year, the taxpayer pays the owners £400,000. Which would be fine except for the fact that the electrification project is way behind schedule ...
Stoke 69.4% Leave 30.6% Remain
West Bromwich 66.8% Leave 33.2% Remain
Burnley 66.6% Leave 33.4% Remain
Moderate to quite strong leave, not in top flight.
Accrington 66.2% Leave 33.8% Remain (Hyndburn)
Wolverhampton 62.6% Leave 37.4% Remain
Bolton 58.3% Leave 41.7% Remain
Derby 57.2% Leave 42.8% Remain
Blackburn 56.3% Leave 43.7% Remain
Preston 53.3% Leave 46.7% Remain
Nottingham 50.8% Leave 49.2% Remain
Strong remain, still in top flight
Everton 41.8% Leave 58.2% Remain
Strong remain, not in top flight
Aston Villa 32.2% Leave 67.8% Remain (Aston)
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
Times / YouGov GB weekly poll
Which makes best PM:
Theresa May 47 (-2)
Jeremy Corbyn 14 (nc)
Not sure 39 (+1)
Well, up to a point......
Sam Coates Times @SamCoatesTimes
Times / YouGov GB weekly voting intention 20-21 Mar (changes since last wk)
Con 41 (-3)
Lab 25 (-2)
LD 11 (+1)
Ukip 12 (+3)
Other 11 (+2)
I don't know if the full dining service still exists even on the Riviera. If you got the Royal Duchy, catering ended at Plymouth but on the Riviera you could still get coffee or tea well into Cornwall but by Truro the train was quiet.
Assuming the train was on time, it was a few minutes wait for the connection to St Ives which although very different from the Riviera was and remains a brief scenic interlude.
I still think it would have been rather neat if Crossrail could have been used to get trains from HS2 at Old Oak Common to HS1 at Stratford. But sadly, no.
I reckon HS2 is going to be the railway equivalent of the M6 Toll.
But that said, in this age of austerity, should the council prioritise this? Let the Yorkshire county set who keep voting for austerity dip into their pockets to raise the additional 4m....
Ha..
The biggest threat to HS2 - still - is Euston, which might be a massive pit for money as well as engineering. It's worrying that they still don't appear to have a firm hand on the redevelopment.
As for the HS2-HS1 link: it was going to be a single line, built at massive expense alongside an existing line. It was a compromise. It was a nicety, not a must-have.
https://twitter.com/GeneralBoles/status/844493182985555970