I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
If you can stop yourself being an unsuccessful troll for a minute, would you care to answer this?
Would it not be an SNP success if Scotland gained independence with the help of high profile politicians from other parties heading the official campaign? Would you feel a bit less happy that you were independent & that your aim had been achieved?
Good news about the BoE forecasts, at least the wheels will keep turning this year.
I've just galloped through the A50 white paper. I would be ashamed to have produced something like this in my pomp. It's pretty thin gruel. It skates over all the hard stuff (e.g. NI/Eire border), with a bunch of platitudes, aspirational statements, with just a hint of tractor statistics (10k pigs per week!). Not at all what I was expecting.
Humph.
When the boss (i.e. the people) gives you duff instructions there's only so much you can do...
You think the people are boss? What kind of Federalist EU-phile are you?
"Speaking at the California Polytechnic State University, he said that applicants have until Feburary 14 to submit an essay and short video clip explaining why they deserve the grant.
The vocal critic of feminism, Islam, social justice, political correctness and avid Trump fan said he was “happy that white men are now on their way to achieving their dreams.”
He said: “If you’re a woman, if you’re black, if you’re a Muslim, if you’re a refugee or if you identify as an attack helicopter you can get free money.
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
Yep. Farage was driving me into the Remain camp every time he opened his gob. Fortunately, there were even more odious people on the other side, Bob Geldof being my personal bete noire.
Geldof is a wank but more odious than Farage is a little harsh.
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
This Ukip are shite/Farage never won an election shite is up there with Jilted John when it comes to missing the point:
Oh, she is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon Just cos he's better looking than me Just cos he's cool and sexy
But I know he's a moron, Gordon is a moron Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron.
In the same way as Trump is POTUS even if he is an odious joke, so Farage engineered Brexit even if he is an odious joke.
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
This Ukip are shite/Farage never won an election shite is up there with Jilted John when it comes to missing the point:
Oh, she is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon Just cos he's better looking than me Just cos he's cool and sexy
But I know he's a moron, Gordon is a moron Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron.
In the same way as Trump is POTUS even if he is an odious joke, so Farage engineered Brexit even if he is an odious joke.
Trump is POTUS, Farage is a radio talk show guy.
a radio talk show guy who engineered Brexit. Or are the consequences of brexit too trivial to catch your attention?
Surely that would be tantamount to ripping the US constitution into pieces and tossing it up like confetti. Separation of religion and state.
Ripping the US constitution into pieces and tossing it up like confetti was the entire point of the Trump candidacy.
Absolutely. A true conservative attitude is better reflected in this piece (which I pretty well agree with): http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/conservatism-after-trump/ The first of those considerations is to minimize damage to the Constitution, whether inflicted by Trump himself or by his opponents. In that regard, conservatives should side with their brethren on the left in standing foursquare against actions by Trump or members of his lunatic inner circle that jeopardize any aspect of the Bill of Rights, whether relating to speech, assembly, privacy, the free exercise of religion, or limits on the police power of the state.
On the other hand, conservatives should insist that Trump’s opponents also adhere to terms set out in the Constitution. Among more radical members of the left, eagerness to remove Trump from office, using any available pretext, is palpable. I myself will not shed a tear should Trump be involuntarily and permanently returned to the eponymous tower from which he descended to complete the corruption of American politics. Let it be done, however, in strict compliance with either Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution or alternatively in accordance with Section 4 of the 25th Amendment...
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
If you can stop yourself being an unsuccessful troll for a minute, would you care to answer this?
Would it not be the SNP's success if Scotland gained independence with the help of high profile politicians from other parties heading the official campaign? Would you feel a bit less happy that you were independent & that your aim had been achieved?
You keep squeezing out wibbly, defensive replies, so not that unsuccessful.
You're comparing a successful governing party with one that's not governed anything; the latter managed to ride a popular, mainly English wave, and its single issue ambition was attained for a number of reasons. Now that party has subsided back into incoherent irrelevance.
In the extremely unlikely event of a successful campaign for an independent Scotland being dependent on the support of someone like Farage, I'll vote No.
A very interesting and forceful response by Mark Carney in response to a French journalist's question about banks moving to the EU27. It's worth reading in full (13:35)
I've just galloped through the A50 white paper. I would be ashamed to have produced something like this in my pomp. It's pretty thin gruel. It skates over all the hard stuff (e.g. NI/Eire border), with a bunch of platitudes, aspirational statements plus just a smear of tractor statistics (10k pigs per week!). Not at all what I was expecting.
Humph.
There's nothing much to it, but I'm not at all surprised. On every question of importance, it says that 'that will be a matter for negotiation'. That seems to me to be a simple statement of the obvious, which is why all those calls from Labour and others for more clarity don't make sense.
It's quite a useful summary of some of the basic statistics, however.
It was interesting to see the wording on the "no contributions" para on page 49; that seemed to be setting up a red line of our own, there.
Although, thinking about it, I suppose you can read "no vast contributions" two ways. Either it's emphatic to the point of confrontation, or it's opening the door to "but modest contributions are ok". Probably the latter, I guess.
Surely that would be tantamount to ripping the US constitution into pieces and tossing it up like confetti. Separation of religion and state.
Ripping the US constitution into pieces and tossing it up like confetti was the entire point of the Trump candidacy.
Absolutely. A true conservative attitude is better reflected in this piece (which I pretty well agree with): http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/conservatism-after-trump/ The first of those considerations is to minimize damage to the Constitution, whether inflicted by Trump himself or by his opponents. In that regard, conservatives should side with their brethren on the left in standing foursquare against actions by Trump or members of his lunatic inner circle that jeopardize any aspect of the Bill of Rights, whether relating to speech, assembly, privacy, the free exercise of religion, or limits on the police power of the state.
On the other hand, conservatives should insist that Trump’s opponents also adhere to terms set out in the Constitution. Among more radical members of the left, eagerness to remove Trump from office, using any available pretext, is palpable. I myself will not shed a tear should Trump be involuntarily and permanently returned to the eponymous tower from which he descended to complete the corruption of American politics. Let it be done, however, in strict compliance with either Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution or alternatively in accordance with Section 4 of the 25th Amendment...
There is a strong case for saying that to prohibit religion-based discrimination infringes both the church/state divide and the right to freedom of speech; after all saying "I hate ethnic or religious or sexual minority x y or z" is speech, innit? If there is such an argument, it is the constitution which should give way, obviously, but there isn't an open-and-shut constitution-based case against Trump that I can see here.
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
If you can stop yourself being an unsuccessful troll for a minute, would you care to answer this?
Would it not be the SNP's success if Scotland gained independence with the help of high profile politicians from other parties heading the official campaign? Would you feel a bit less happy that you were independent & that your aim had been achieved?
You keep squeezing out wibbly, defensive replies, so not that unsuccessful.
You're comparing a successful governing party with one that's not governed anything; the latter managed to ride a popular, mainly English wave, and its single issue ambition was attained for a number of reasons. Now that party has subsided back into incoherent irrelevance.
In the extremely unlikely event of a successful campaign for an independent Scotland being dependent on the support of someone like Farage, I'll vote No.
Wow that's quite remarkable, party politics over country!
I am not inclined to believe that in full, particularly given that it comes from the Indy; the Beano is more reliable.
Looks like another story where the anti-Trumpers have exaggerated or believed the outpost of his rhetoric. Compare the suspension of visitors from a list of countries which became #MuslimBan.
I am not inclined to believe that in full, particularly given that it comes from the Indy; the Beano is more reliable.
Looks like another story where the anti-Trumpers have exaggerated or believed the outpost of his rhetoric. Compare the suspension of visitors from a list of countries which became #MuslimBan.
There is, of course, the strong possibility that it's just the White House trolling. It's still dismaying that his supporters think that's acceptable behaviour for a president.
ARSENAL manager Arsene Wenger and Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn are to trade roles in a bid to transform the fortunes of their respective teams.
The year-long experiment will see Corbyn don Wenger’s ‘very hungry caterpillar’ anorak in the Arsenal dugout, while Wenger will grow a beard to face Theresa May across the despatch box.
A Labour spokesman said: “Mr Wenger has already pledged that Labour will finish in the top four of every by-election while he is in charge.
“He also plans to bring in a number of European politicians into the party who will be ideally suited to travel up to Stoke or Burnley on a cold February weekday night and perform fantastically well, so long as they are wearing gloves.”
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
If you can stop yourself being an unsuccessful troll for a minute, would you care to answer this?
Would it not be the SNP's success if Scotland gained independence with the help of high profile politicians from other parties heading the official campaign? Would you feel a bit less happy that you were independent & that your aim had been achieved?
You keep squeezing out wibbly, defensive replies, so not that unsuccessful.
You're comparing a successful governing party with one that's not governed anything; the latter managed to ride a popular, mainly English wave, and its single issue ambition was attained for a number of reasons. Now that party has subsided back into incoherent irrelevance.
In the extremely unlikely event of a successful campaign for an independent Scotland being dependent on the support of someone like Farage, I'll vote No.
Wow that's quite remarkable, party politics over country!
Andy Burnham is a good example of party before country.
Major news item. Google it: www.google.co.uk/webhp?q=steve+bannon+china&tbm=nws
I suspect even Republicans will say, wait a minute, and dispense with Trump before that happens. But I wouldn't rely on it!
And in case anyone thinks being at war with China is far-fetched, this is essentially the same rhetoric as at the start of the Bush administration about war with Iraq (and before 9/11).
Iran is more likely I think? No need to worry really though the conservatives on pb have assured us many times that Trump makes war less likely.
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
This Ukip are shite/Farage never won an election shite is up there with Jilted John when it comes to missing the point:
Oh, she is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon Just cos he's better looking than me Just cos he's cool and sexy
But I know he's a moron, Gordon is a moron Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron.
In the same way as Trump is POTUS even if he is an odious joke, so Farage engineered Brexit even if he is an odious joke.
Trump is POTUS, Farage is a radio talk show guy.
a radio talk show guy who engineered Brexit. Or are the consequences of brexit too trivial to catch your attention?
I refer you to my previous statement:
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
@BBCNormanS: Brexit White paper suggests Govt will seek single market deals for car manufacturers, financial services and chemicals
So immediately the EU negotiators say 'not without free movement' Declaring your negotiating strategy up front is idiotic and shame on any MP that wants details
I've just galloped through the A50 white paper. I would be ashamed to have produced something like this in my pomp. It's pretty thin gruel. It skates over all the hard stuff (e.g. NI/Eire border), with a bunch of platitudes, aspirational statements plus just a smear of tractor statistics (10k pigs per week!). Not at all what I was expecting.
Humph.
There's nothing much to it, but I'm not at all surprised. On every question of importance, it says that 'that will be a matter for negotiation'. That seems to me to be a simple statement of the obvious, which is why all those calls from Labour and others for more clarity don't make sense.
It's quite a useful summary of some of the basic statistics, however.
@ProfChalmers,one of the most interesting of the Scottish Twitterati, made an interesting point yesterday that the "no pre-negotiations", far from being a handicap is actually a get-out for the government. He was talking about trade deals with third parties, but the same applies to the EU negotiations as well:
The issue of the UK signing trade deals pre-Brexit initially looked like a govt handicap; it's actually a get-out. http://bbc.in/2juMZkO ...
Instead, MPs will be asked to sign off on the Brexit deal on the basis that lots of great deals are just round the corner; honestly…
Any attempt to probe the detail of the "pipeline" will be stonewalled. "You surely don't want to prejudice confidential discussions?"
And then when any deals materialise, the scope for challenging any aspect of them will be minimised. "Britain needs this because of Brexit."
My other question is, once EU law has been incorporated into UK law, which elements will the devolved legislatures be able to determine themselves?
" the [Great Repeal] Bill will preserve EU law where it stands at the moment before we leave the EU. Parliament (and, where appropriate, the devolved legislatures) will then be able to decide which elements of that law to keep, amend or repeal once we have left the EU"
Major news item. Google it: www.google.co.uk/webhp?q=steve+bannon+china&tbm=nws
I suspect even Republicans will say, wait a minute, and dispense with Trump before that happens. But I wouldn't rely on it!
And in case anyone thinks being at war with China is far-fetched, this is essentially the same rhetoric as at the start of the Bush administration about war with Iraq (and before 9/11).
Iran is more likely I think? No need to worry really though the conservatives on pb have assured us many times that Trump makes war less likely.
There will be a war in the Middle East (Iran probably?) AT THE SAME TIME as the one with China, according to Mr Bannon. More special relationship opportunities for us!
I'm more interested in why Leave.EU would release this.
To build narrative and momentum.
In 2015 the Tories and UKIP were neck and neck, now they can say only UKIP can beat Labour here.
Perhaps, but then why not show Labour and UKIP neck and neck? There is a danger in making undecided voters think it's all over. If the EU ref polling had overestimated Leave I suspect the result may have been different.
If there's one thing I've learned over the years, UKIP are shite at expectations management.
That's the only thing you've learned UKIP are shite at?
How are they at winning referendums/achieving their ambitions?
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
I think that's right. People like me would have felt very uncomfortable having just Farage in our corner. I would probably have abstained.
So even then UKIP needed the Tories to win referendums/achieve ambitions. Bit of a pattern emerging..
This Ukip are shite/Farage never won an election shite is up there with Jilted John when it comes to missing the point:
Oh, she is cruel and heartless to pack me for Gordon Just cos he's better looking than me Just cos he's cool and sexy
But I know he's a moron, Gordon is a moron Gordon is a moron, Gordon is a moron.
In the same way as Trump is POTUS even if he is an odious joke, so Farage engineered Brexit even if he is an odious joke.
Trump is POTUS, Farage is a radio talk show guy.
a radio talk show guy who engineered Brexit. Or are the consequences of brexit too trivial to catch your attention?
I refer you to my previous statement:
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
Tis interesting that we gain more from common fisheries than we lose...
Wait, they catch more in our waters...
British fishermen have been shafted - less by the EU than our own governments who traded away their interest for other more lucrative or politically better connected causes. I doubt that's going to change post-Brexit. We need Denmark and Spain to agree our trading arrangements, with Spain also having a big say over Gibraltar. Not a problem - have the fish from our waters. The difference now is that our Brexit supporting farmers will join them as chips to be bargained away. They really didn't know what they were voting for.
A delicate gloss on an old-fashioned phrase. But I suppose "And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle." is out of date. Now she'd be my uncle in transition.
"Whilst Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU, it has not always felt like that."
"not always felt like that" = you are morons who have fundamentally misunderstood the concept of sovereignty. Talking to you, PB Leavers.
I feel the government should have posted a trigger warning for Leavers before they published that.
But Parliament is and has been sovereign since the Glorious Revolution.
I know that, you know that, but if I wanted to be cruel, I could go back into the PB archives and point out all the times I said that when PB Leavers said they voted Leave to ensure Parliament was sovereign.
3.6 We must also recognise the importance of trade within the UK to all parts of the Union. For example, Scotland’s exports to the rest of the UK are estimated to be four times greater than those to the EU27 (in 2015, £49.8 billion compared with £12.3 billion). So our guiding principle will be to ensure that – as we leave the EU – no new barriers to living and doing business within our own Union are created.
Tis interesting that we gain more from common fisheries than we lose...
Wait, they catch more in our waters...
British fishermen have been shafted - less by the EU than our own governments who traded away their interest for other more lucrative or politically better connected causes. I doubt that's going to change post-Brexit. We need Denmark and Spain to agree our trading arrangements, with Spain also having a big say over Gibraltar. Not a problem - have the fish from our waters. The difference now is that our Brexit supporting farmers will join them as chips to be bargained away. They really didn't know what they were voting for.
Yes, once we're out and UK politicians gain nothing by sucking up to the EU then perhaps we'll get better deals.
The most interesting thing about the White Paper is the fact that they carefully include graphs by country, as a not-very-subtle hint that if they play nasty, some of the little guys amongst the EU27 are gonna get hurt. That's quite smart.
Tis interesting that we gain more from common fisheries than we lose...
Wait, they catch more in our waters...
British fishermen have been shafted - less by the EU than our own governments who traded away their interest for other more lucrative or politically better connected causes. I doubt that's going to change post-Brexit. We need Denmark and Spain to agree our trading arrangements, with Spain also having a big say over Gibraltar. Not a problem - have the fish from our waters. The difference now is that our Brexit supporting farmers will join them as chips to be bargained away. They really didn't know what they were voting for.
British fishermen also knowingly sold their quotas to offshore companies, pocketed the proceeds and expect HMG to reclaim them for said fishermen.
A delicate gloss on an old-fashioned phrase. But I suppose "And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle." is out of date. Now she'd be my uncle in transition.
I'd imagine if aunty CD13 had balls, (s)he'd be pretty much past the transition stage.
Tis interesting that we gain more from common fisheries than we lose...
Wait, they catch more in our waters...
British fishermen have been shafted - less by the EU than our own governments who traded away their interest for other more lucrative or politically better connected causes. I doubt that's going to change post-Brexit. We need Denmark and Spain to agree our trading arrangements, with Spain also having a big say over Gibraltar. Not a problem - have the fish from our waters. The difference now is that our Brexit supporting farmers will join them as chips to be bargained away. They really didn't know what they were voting for.
British fishermen also knowingly sold their quotas to offshore companies, pocketed the proceeds and expect HMG to reclaim them for said fishermen.
Perhaps because their quota wasn't large enough to earn any type of living on and they couldn't afford to buy extra quota because they were already poor.
Morally wrong, not legally wrong, if he declared them legally wrong over half of under 30s in the US would be arrested
What is the purpose of such an Executive Order? It sounds rather like issuing a fiat that we disapprove of Gravity.
Good afternoon, everyone.
Virtue signalling. Like actual real honest to goodness virtue signalling because if they were serious try could actually draft some legislation about it. But they aren't. So it's virtue signalling to make their base think they care.
A very interesting and forceful response by Mark Carney in response to a French journalist's question about banks moving to the EU27. It's worth reading in full (13:35)
You really don't need to be upset by the bitter Remainers on here. They are few in number, are probably fervent Internationalists and have seen their world dissolve before their eyes. They are also in a small minority even among the Remain voters. And to make it worse, probably live in London,
Have some sympathy, man. Think how you'd feel in those circumstances.
@BBCNormanS: Brexit White paper suggests Govt will seek single market deals for car manufacturers, financial services and chemicals
Convenient ready summary of sectors, tariffs and balance of trade from Open Europe. Seems like they are going for sectors with high disruption risks. Wonder if the UK government would accept free trade on cars and chmicals, but not financial services
A very interesting and forceful response by Mark Carney in response to a French journalist's question about banks moving to the EU27. It's worth reading in full (13:35)
Oh dear, will we cut workers rights so they are as bad as they are in the EU?
in many areas the UK Government has already extended workers’ rights beyond those set out in EU law. For example, UK domestic law already provides for 5.6 weeks of statutory annual leave, compared to the four weeks set out in EU law. In the UK, women who have had a child can enjoy 52 weeks of statutory maternity leave and 39 weeks of pay, not just the 14 weeks under EU law.
I'm flying to New York for a short visit at the end of the month.
What would me the mid price of how long I'm questioned for by the authorities at the airport?
It would depend a lot on how you answer the question 'Do you intend to commit a terrorist act in the United States?'
I shall be on my best behaviour, my favourite exchange.
Agent: Do you have any weapons?
Me: Why, what do you need? Because the white Englishman who is my friend, who you haven't stopped works for a defence contractor and might be able to help you.
You really don't need to be upset by the bitter Remainers on here. They are few in number, are probably fervent Internationalists and have seen their world dissolve before their eyes. They are also in a small minority even among the Remain voters. And to make it worse, probably live in London,
Have some sympathy, man. Think how you'd feel in those circumstances.
" We have long been a strong supporter of global trade liberalisation and of the rules based system for trade. An international rules based system is crucial for underpinning free trade and to ward off protectionism."
Fox video President Trump: “America must forever remain a tolerant society where all faiths are respected… We have to feel safe and secure.” https://t.co/Qauhk9RmZm
President Trump on immigration executive order: “We want people to come into our nation but we want people to love us...” https://t.co/yaMSux7LGP
A very interesting and forceful response by Mark Carney in response to a French journalist's question about banks moving to the EU27. It's worth reading in full (13:35)
Don't think it is all that subtle. The fact is that both sides of the skill set are here and not there. If they take the business without adequate regulatory oversight they would indeed be storing up trouble. He's right of course. After all we have @Cyclefree and they don't.
@jameskirkup: Unless I'm missing something, Brexit White Paper does *not* rule out CJEU being forum for dispute resolution in UK:EU trade relations.
Well...it says there will be a panel for dispute resolution. But who if not CJEU will opine on single market matters? Not much room for a joint panel there..
The most interesting thing about the White Paper is the fact that they carefully include graphs by country, as a not-very-subtle hint that if they play nasty, some of the little guys amongst the EU27 are gonna get hurt. That's quite smart.
Pity about the screw-up on Chart 7.1, though!
There seems to be a consensus in Europe as well as the UK that a precipitous shift to the Eurozone is not in the interests of the rEU. My take is that those same risks make an orderly move more, not less pressing, as the EU will want to have control and not be beholden to a foreign regime. This is regardless of any commercial benefits coming from a domestic financial services industry.
You really don't need to be upset by the bitter Remainers on here. They are few in number, are probably fervent Internationalists and have seen their world dissolve before their eyes. They are also in a small minority even among the Remain voters. And to make it worse, probably live in London,
Have some sympathy, man. Think how you'd feel in those circumstances.
Nah. I am reasonably chilled about it all. I am in secure employment with as much overtime as I choose to do and a gold plated pension, just a couple of years away. It is not me that faces redundancy, and if it all goes tits up then I can buy up assets on the cheap, or go to work in the Gulf.
..... financial services passports. Both UK and EU firms benefit from these arrangements – there are over 5,000 UK firms that utilise passports to provide services across the rest of the EU, but around 8,000 European firms that use passports to provide services into the UK.
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Would it not be an SNP success if Scotland gained independence with the help of high profile politicians from other parties heading the official campaign?
Would you feel a bit less happy that you were independent & that your aim had been achieved?
Alt-right figurehead Milo Yiannopoulos has opened up his white male privilege fund to help men get a degree https://t.co/CySMVlfwcV https://t.co/9zD8qMGN6y
"Speaking at the California Polytechnic State University, he said that applicants have until Feburary 14 to submit an essay and short video clip explaining why they deserve the grant.
The vocal critic of feminism, Islam, social justice, political correctness and avid Trump fan said he was “happy that white men are now on their way to achieving their dreams.”
He said: “If you’re a woman, if you’re black, if you’re a Muslim, if you’re a refugee or if you identify as an attack helicopter you can get free money.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/conservatism-after-trump/
The first of those considerations is to minimize damage to the Constitution, whether inflicted by Trump himself or by his opponents. In that regard, conservatives should side with their brethren on the left in standing foursquare against actions by Trump or members of his lunatic inner circle that jeopardize any aspect of the Bill of Rights, whether relating to speech, assembly, privacy, the free exercise of religion, or limits on the police power of the state.
On the other hand, conservatives should insist that Trump’s opponents also adhere to terms set out in the Constitution. Among more radical members of the left, eagerness to remove Trump from office, using any available pretext, is palpable. I myself will not shed a tear should Trump be involuntarily and permanently returned to the eponymous tower from which he descended to complete the corruption of American politics. Let it be done, however, in strict compliance with either Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution or alternatively in accordance with Section 4 of the 25th Amendment...
You're comparing a successful governing party with one that's not governed anything; the latter managed to ride a popular, mainly English wave, and its single issue ambition was attained for a number of reasons. Now that party has subsided back into incoherent irrelevance.
In the extremely unlikely event of a successful campaign for an independent Scotland being dependent on the support of someone like Farage, I'll vote No.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/feb/02/bank-of-england-interest-rates-quarterly-inflation-report-brexit-live
Although, thinking about it, I suppose you can read "no vast contributions" two ways. Either it's emphatic to the point of confrontation, or it's opening the door to "but modest contributions are ok". Probably the latter, I guess.
Looks like another story where the anti-Trumpers have exaggerated or believed the outpost of his rhetoric. Compare the suspension of visitors from a list of countries which became #MuslimBan.
I expect TSE knows the right sites to go to!
"Whilst Parliament has remained sovereign throughout our membership of the EU, it has not always felt like that."
"not always felt like that" = you are morons who have fundamentally misunderstood the concept of sovereignty. Talking to you, PB Leavers.
The year-long experiment will see Corbyn don Wenger’s ‘very hungry caterpillar’ anorak in the Arsenal dugout, while Wenger will grow a beard to face Theresa May across the despatch box.
A Labour spokesman said: “Mr Wenger has already pledged that Labour will finish in the top four of every by-election while he is in charge.
“He also plans to bring in a number of European politicians into the party who will be ideally suited to travel up to Stoke or Burnley on a cold February weekday night and perform fantastically well, so long as they are wearing gloves.”
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/wenger-and-corbyn-to-swap-jobs-20170202121449
No need to worry really though the conservatives on pb have assured us many times that Trump makes war less likely.
If Boris and Gove had supported 'Remain' we would have had a different outcome.
https://twitter.com/PaulaHoneyRose/status/827150097502830592
The issue of the UK signing trade deals pre-Brexit initially looked like a govt handicap; it's actually a get-out. http://bbc.in/2juMZkO ...
Instead, MPs will be asked to sign off on the Brexit deal on the basis that lots of great deals are just round the corner; honestly…
Any attempt to probe the detail of the "pipeline" will be stonewalled. "You surely don't want to prejudice confidential discussions?"
And then when any deals materialise, the scope for challenging any aspect of them will be minimised. "Britain needs this because of Brexit."
" the [Great Repeal] Bill will preserve EU law where it stands at the moment before we leave the EU. Parliament (and, where appropriate, the devolved legislatures) will then be able to decide which elements of that law to keep, amend or repeal once we have left the EU"
By about minus £370 million......
And I note the EU fisheries has "heavy reliance" on the UK, while to the UK the EU is "important".......
"And if my aunt were a wagon she'd have wheels."
A delicate gloss on an old-fashioned phrase. But I suppose "And if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle." is out of date. Now she'd be my uncle in transition.
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We must also recognise the importance of trade within the UK to all parts of the Union. For example, Scotland’s exports to the rest of the UK are estimated to be four times greater than those to the EU27 (in 2015, £49.8 billion compared with £12.3 billion). So our guiding principle will be to ensure that – as we leave the EU – no new barriers to living and doing business within our own Union are created.
Pity about the screw-up on Chart 7.1, though!
Good afternoon, everyone.
I'm flying to New York for a short visit at the end of the month.
What would me the mid price of how long I'm questioned for by the authorities at the airport?
You're right though and I apologize.
Nobody likes Gravity. It just gets you down.
You really don't need to be upset by the bitter Remainers on here. They are few in number, are probably fervent Internationalists and have seen their world dissolve before their eyes. They are also in a small minority even among the Remain voters. And to make it worse, probably live in London,
Have some sympathy, man. Think how you'd feel in those circumstances.
in many areas the UK Government has already extended workers’ rights beyond those set out in EU law. For example, UK domestic law already provides for 5.6 weeks of statutory annual leave, compared to the four weeks set out in EU law. In the UK, women who have had a child can enjoy 52 weeks of statutory maternity leave and 39 weeks of pay, not just the 14 weeks under EU law.
Agent: Do you have any weapons?
Me: Why, what do you need? Because the white Englishman who is my friend, who you haven't stopped works for a defence contractor and might be able to help you.
"I'd imagine if aunty CD13 had balls, (s)he'd be pretty much past the transition stage."
They're all long gone, but my recollection of them from childhood is that they did have balls - especially the maiden aunts.
So basically its a rigged market.
What the fuck is that if not internationalist?
President Trump: “America must forever remain a tolerant society where all faiths are respected… We have to feel safe and secure.” https://t.co/Qauhk9RmZm
President Trump on immigration executive order: “We want people to come into our nation but we want people to love us...” https://t.co/yaMSux7LGP
Guido
WATCH Corbyn: People Choose to Be Gay [VIDEO] https://t.co/D9ZxaxF3yu https://t.co/vBtBTPJiyR
Iran is the main one today.
Let the Leavers enjoy their sovereignty
"but" around 8,000 EU firms.....