Thanks for spreading the message and helping us secure victory.
Do you believe that the NHS will receive that £350m/week?
If not, it would be the first time I've heard a Leaver acknowledge that the dissemination of an untruth was critical to Leave's success. And is happy about it.
We have done the £350m on here dozens of times. In fact, nearly every time Scott posts that tweet - which is becoming just as tedious.
I know but it's interesting to me that AFAICR no one hitherto has acknowledged that it was not true, that it helped Leave to win, and is happy with that.
We have rehearsed at length that both sides lied, the campaign was awful, etc, but not the above.
But on the other hand some of us said right back when the campaign was going on that it was a daft number to use. Given that the real accurate number would have been around £280 million a week it seemed particularly daft to use a number that could be reasonably challenged when there was a similarly huge number that could not be challenged. I note that Cummings did justify the number but I found his justification weak.
Yes exactly. I don't mean to pick on @Casino_Royale but I'm interested to see that we have moved, perhaps only on PB, to the position whereby it is acknowledged that it was a lie/economic with the actualite, hence was instrumental in securing victory, andhence that that is a good thing.
Cumming himself made the links in his extensive post referendum blog posting on the campaign (which should be required reading for anyone interested in political campaigns). Mind you he started from the position that the number could be justified. But he does say it was fundamental to the victory.
@tnewtondunn: Theresa May has landed in US, and the Trump romance begins. Asked how they'll get on, PM tells me: "Haven't you noticed? Opposites attract".
@michaelsavage: A Labour frontbencher resigns over triggering Article 50, confirming that - somehow - the first #Brexit Commons crisis is a Labour one.
Yes, that EU bloodbath in the Tory party is going to be every bit as vicious as...hang on, that can't be right....
The questions for Theresa May will be more awkward than the questions for Donald Trump. He will say whatever he feels like while she will be mindful that her own domestic audience is rather less accepting of alternative facts and alternative moralities.
She will not tolerate torture or any attack on women
What form will her intolerance take? Strong, resolute, unflinching hand wringing is my guess.
Only Labour could table an amendment insisting on EU nationals retaining their rights here in the UK but forget to bother to mention UK nationals living in EU countries.
I thought google was reasonably secure? Secure enough for a twitter account at least!
Gmail does support 2FA. If you configure it.
I think the point is that he appears to be using a personal email account for what is Government business.
No problem with that, right?
Oh, wait...
Yes, it does imply that it is being used, although I believe it has the same characters as the password prompt for the POTUS account, so maybe the email address is only used for managing social media accounts?
@PaulBrandITV: Tulip Siddiq's resignation is a no-brainer really - a tiny majority in a seat where Remain won by a landslide and Lib Dems are nibbling.
No - she'll get beaten by the Tories next time. This may be her only chance of staving that off.
I thought google was reasonably secure? Secure enough for a twitter account at least!
Gmail does support 2FA. If you configure it.
I think the point is that he appears to be using a personal email account for what is Government business.
No problem with that, right?
Oh, wait...
I do wonder what the government tech people are doing ...you would think these days each member of incoming administration would get the nth degree about setting all their stuff up properly and basically not let them out of the room until they have complex passwords, 2FA, etc etc etc.
What hope is there for social democracy in UK in next few years when one can read this:
"Labour is effectively led by a triumvirate – Corbyn, plus Abbott and McDonnell, the two MPs who are most influential upon his thinking – though Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary is growing in importance."
Ha, ha - I was thinking the same. However, we are way passed peak Corbyn now. The remaining believers are hunkering down, for sure. But they are becoming increasingly isolated.
Incidentally, this morning I again laid David Miliband as next Labour leader at 18. Only for a few quid, but still. Just who are these people willing to back him so low?
Incidentally, this morning I again laid David Miliband as next Labour leader at 18. Only for a few quid, but still. Just who are these people willing to back him so low?
I'm one of them I'm afraid :
Lay David Miliband 9.63 £142.72 £1,231.66
Back David Miliband 17.22 £16.00 £259.52 (11th July 2016)
The sky reporter "quoting" intelligence sources thay giving terrorist suspects a bottle of beer often more effective than torture...given most of the people who have been tortured by the us are strict Muslims somehow doubt that unless they mean they threaten to force feed said beer.
You'd be surprised. According the 9/11 commission report the 9/11 hijackers went out drinking and partying together a few nights before the attacks.
Hacksaw Ridge is a stunningly good war film - or film, period. If La La Land weren't being lauded like Ben Hur, it might stand a chance. And I far preferred Andrew Garfield's performance in it to that of the much-touted Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea.
Amy Adams getting overlooked for Best Actress in Arrival was a shock. I suppose somebody had to lose out so Meryl could get her 20th....
Very gratified though to see Hidden Figures getting a Best Picture Nom. Entirely deserved. The film I most ENJOYED out of the whole awards crop."
MM
I'm just catching up. I saw Manchester by the Sea which I thought was pretty good though too depressing to win anything but I did think Casey Affleck was good. I also saw 'Jackie' which I liked a lot and if NP doesn't win best actress I'd be very surprised. A compulsive performance as was the film. Very well directed too for such a small tale and not like a biopic at all which I generally don't like. Next to see is Lalaland this afternoon then Hidden Figures which I'm looking forward to and Hacksaw Ridge less so.
Agree on "Jackie" - her performance WAS the film. Must be a strong favourite unless the Academy go completely bonkers over La La Land. Which has to be a possibility, it being set in LA and all...
Hacksaw RIdge has a very strong potential appeal to the liberal left - a true story of a conscientious objector, the hell he has to go through in training and his extraordinary war - being capped off by receiving the highest gallantry medal in the US. The sort of story that might well appeal to those who really dislike Trump - and I'm thinking that is maybe 85% of Academy voters. (Set against that, I guess many would not want to see Mel Gibson to prosper as director - so the value there is on Andrew Garfield who is well gong-worthy). BTW make sure you stay to the very end of Hacksaw Ridge (which is a bit of an endurance, because arguably its only fault is it feels a good 15 minutes too long).
I found Lalaland underwhelming in fact baffling. For a film with 14 nominations I expected a musical closer to Cabaret than Mama Mia! Apart from a few awards for music and sound I'd be struggling. Perhaps the Acadamy were so depressed with Trump etc that they wanted something to cheer them up and make themselves feel important and it was all set around their studios. I'm looking forward to Hackshaw Ridge. I always stay through the credits but thanks I'll watch out for something
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
The sky reporter "quoting" intelligence sources thay giving terrorist suspects a bottle of beer often more effective than torture...given most of the people who have been tortured by the us are strict Muslims somehow doubt that unless they mean they threaten to force feed said beer.
You'd be surprised. According the 9/11 commission report the 9/11 hijackers went out drinking and partying together a few nights before the attacks.
I know many Muslims who drink just as I know many Jews who eat bacon and many Christians who break various commandments etc
Just because something is a sin in your religion doesn't mean nobody does it.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
it would be quite the irony if Tulip's resignation was the first domino to trigger a general election, because it's fair to say she might well lose her seat.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
it would be quite the irony if Tulip's resignation was the first domino to trigger a general election, because it's fair to say she might well lose her seat.
The only way that would happen is if the government somehow loses the vote on A50?
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
it would be quite the irony if Tulip's resignation was the first domino to trigger a general election, because it's fair to say she might well lose her seat.
The only way that would happen is if the government somehow loses the vote on A50?
Yes, very very unlikely. The government were right to give as short a period as possible to debate the bill - any longer and there might end up with more Tory dissenters than the usual suspects. As things stand Soubry, Wollaston and co have got as much if not more than they asked for (vote in parliament, white paper) and should support the vote.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
it would be quite the irony if Tulip's resignation was the first domino to trigger a general election, because it's fair to say she might well lose her seat.
The only way that would happen is if the government somehow loses the vote on A50?
I think there's at least a chance that we'll have a Spring GE, FTPA notwithstanding.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
it would be quite the irony if Tulip's resignation was the first domino to trigger a general election, because it's fair to say she might well lose her seat.
The only way that would happen is if the government somehow loses the vote on A50?
I think there's at least a chance that we'll have a Spring GE, FTPA notwithstanding.
Yeah, but a small chance. It would require a large U turn from May.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Politically, it would actually do May a great deal of good to be seen to be standing up to Trump. It would win her a lot of respect, even from people like me who are very dubious - to say the least - about her.
Politically, it would actually do May a great deal of good to be seen to be standing up to Trump. It would win her a lot of respect, even from people like me who are very dubious - to say the least - about her.
Corbyn and May have little in common, except this; they both have strongly held beliefs and aren't particularly shy about expressing them. May is a Christian, and she wouldn't be able to temporise or dissemble on a topic like torture. Still proud of her statement.
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
So many commentators predicting a hard time for TM but they do not know her. Tomorrow could just be the day TM does our Country proud and has big influence on events for the better
Surely the Government will simply order Tory MPs to reject all of these on a 3-line whip basis? Presumably the DUP and Carswell will help out too.
Nuttall maybe ?
Even if he won - which he won't - this vote will be before the by-election.
Just out of interest since Corbyn is down 2 MPs at the moment, what is the Tory majority on paper?
Back to 16, isn't it?
Are the lib dems altogether - I thought upto 3 do not agree with Farron
There were certainly reports to this effect last year. Can't remember who all three were, but pretty sure one was Norman Lamb. This is understandable: I don't know about the constituency exactly, but the district voted 59:41 to Leave.
Lamb has a 4,000 majority over the Tories, with Ukip a comfortable third.
So many commentators predicting a hard time for TM but they do not know her. Tomorrow could just be the day TM does our Country proud and has big influence on events for the better
Surely the Government will simply order Tory MPs to reject all of these on a 3-line whip basis? Presumably the DUP and Carswell will help out too.
Nuttall maybe ?
Even if he won - which he won't - this vote will be before the by-election.
Just out of interest since Corbyn is down 2 MPs at the moment, what is the Tory majority on paper?
Back to 16, isn't it?
Are the lib dems altogether - I thought upto 3 do not agree with Farron
There were certainly reports to this effect last year. Can't remember who all three were, but pretty sure one was Norman Lamb. This is understandable: I don't know about the constituency exactly, but the district voted 59:41 to Leave.
Lamb has a 4,000 majority over the Tories, with Ukip a comfortable third.
I think the 3 were from leave voting constituencies
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
Well done to Tulip Siddiq for defying the 3 line whip imposed cowardly by Corbyn. I thought Corbyn said he welcomes an early election. What's the problem then ?
Bring down this government!
Completely agree. Watch out for Ian Murray too. Maybe Theresa can form an alliance with Marine Le Pen?
The real irony would be if May calls an early GE despite supine Labour/Corbyn trying to avert one by effectively hiding away from a tough decision.
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Almost all? More like 4 vs. 5.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs. SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
Labour is for A50 because of the cowardly Corbyn.
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs. Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
Still not 'almost all', whatever way you try to fudge the numbers. And I think there is only one Tory MP that has confirmed he won't vote for A50, so your definition of hardline is basically the entire party (maybe intentionally!)
If Labour was against A50, at least, 50 Tories would join the opposition.
Did I just read a Labourite referring to 'sensible Tories'. Isn't that the stuff of excommunication from Labour? Doesn't the poster know that there is no such thing and all Tories are baby eaters and worse?
Seems to imply a stoke BMG poll which isn't favourable for Lab.
Reading the detail of YG suggests this is correct.
If the subsamples are to be believed, they are on the verge of going third in London (can scarcely believe that but they managed to lose Glasgow), are struggling to hold onto second in Southern England as well and are already locked into third in Scotland.
The one crumb of comfort for them should be that when policy is looked at, Labour continue to lead in numerous areas in Scotland and a couple in the UK.
Their problem is that they are nowhere on the defining issues of the last three years. They need Brexit completion and the slaying of SIndy.
They need Theresa May and Ruth Davidson to get them back in the game.
Seems to imply a stoke BMG poll which isn't favourable for Lab.
Reading the detail of YG suggests this is correct.
If the subsamples are to be believed, they are on the verge of going third in London (can scarcely believe that but they managed to lose Glasgow), are struggling to hold onto second in Southern England as well and are already locked into third in Scotland.
The one crumb of comfort for them should be that when policy is looked at, Labour continue to lead in numerous areas in Scotland and a couple in the UK.
Their problem is that they are nowhere on the defining issues of the last three years. They need Brexit completion and the slaying of SIndy.
They need Theresa May and Ruth Davidson to get them back in the game.
I find Yougov's London crossbreaks tend to be a bit dodgy, Labour tend to be too low. Also the Lib Dem break here is out of line with previous yougov polls, the last 11 polls average at 12% (excluding don't knows) for the Libs with little variation. On the other hand their other crossbreaks tend to be fairly ok. In fact if it wasn't for a really dodgy crossbreak for the Rest of South in their final Yougov/STimes they would have pretty much nailed GE15.
The average of the crossbreaks are currently showing Labour sliding in the Midlands and as well as the North, with the Tories rising in the North to parity.
The sky reporter "quoting" intelligence sources thay giving terrorist suspects a bottle of beer often more effective than torture...given most of the people who have been tortured by the us are strict Muslims somehow doubt that unless they mean they threaten to force feed said beer.
You'd be surprised. According the 9/11 commission report the 9/11 hijackers went out drinking and partying together a few nights before the attacks.
There seems to be a pattern of such behaviour IIRC - Islamist terrorists going party mode before they attack. Varying explanations - hypocrisy, (pretending) to fit in, some kind of "feast for tomorrow we die thing".
The sky reporter "quoting" intelligence sources thay giving terrorist suspects a bottle of beer often more effective than torture...given most of the people who have been tortured by the us are strict Muslims somehow doubt that unless they mean they threaten to force feed said beer.
You'd be surprised. According the 9/11 commission report the 9/11 hijackers went out drinking and partying together a few nights before the attacks.
Is this how they give it to them?
The Ginger Beer torture method. Pratchett eventually did reveal what the "Ginger Beer Trick" actually is, although he despaired a bit that people actually had to be told. You shake it up real good to get the fizz going, then you stick it up the poor bastard's nose. Ouch.
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@tnewtondunn: Theresa May has landed in US, and the Trump romance begins. Asked how they'll get on, PM tells me: "Haven't you noticed? Opposites attract".
With Tulip's resignation ?
Are you serious ?
It's hardly Caesar, Crassus and Pompey
https://twitter.com/nash076/status/824656400320253959
*edit* Correcting myself - he might be using a BB. Poor sod.
https://twitter.com/babycommie666/status/824470856004833280
Just out of interest since Corbyn is down 2 MPs at the moment, what is the Tory majority on paper?
I think the point is that he appears to be using a personal email account for what is Government business.
No problem with that, right?
Oh, wait...
http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/mps/current-state-of-the-parties/
That's excluding Douglas Carswell, who is obviously certain to support the government, but he'll presumably be cancelled out by Ken Clarke.
So, even without any Labour support, the majority would be pretty safe on this. I suppose the amendments might not be quite so safe, however.
Lay
David Miliband 9.63 £142.72 £1,231.66
Back
David Miliband 17.22 £16.00 £259.52 (11th July 2016)
I'm not laying it personally.
Anyway, I'm off to wander into the frozen realm of Yorkshire. (I don't mind cold patches but it annoys me when a whole day is sub-zero).
Bring down this government!
Just because something is a sin in your religion doesn't mean nobody does it.
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/tulip-siddiq-a-heritage-in-bangadeshi-politics-a-future-in-british-8720884.html
THERESA May has warned Donald Trump that Britain will have to stop sharing crucial intelligence with the US if he brings back torture.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2715067/theresa-may-warns-donald-trump-britain-will-stop-sharing-crucial-intelligence-with-the-us-if-he-brings-back-torture/
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/real-time/Trump-in-Philly-for-GOP-retreat-Live-updates.html
Almost all opposition parties are in favour of defeating A50. If they were serious , many Tories would join. Easily amendments can be drawn up saying the people must be consulted after the final agreement in published before Parliament votes to leave the EU.
The amendment should also carry the clause that the referendum decision will be binding.
All areas covered.
Labour, DUP, UUP and UKIP vs.
SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green.
LOL
The real breakdown is:
Hardline Tory, DUP, UUP ? and UKIP vs.
Labour, SNP, LD, PC, SDLP, Green and SENSIBLE Tories
If we think nothing has changed, Lab at 2.42 is a must bet
UUP will vote for A50
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/our-two-mps-will-vote-to-trigger-article-50-says-proremain-uup-35185255.html
Lamb has a 4,000 majority over the Tories, with Ukip a comfortable third.
http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/01/why-has-jeremy-corbyn-committed-labour-voting-article-50
Seems to imply a stoke BMG poll which isn't favourable for Lab.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-donald-trump-nhs-us-trade-deal-brexit-torture-a7548156.html
If the subsamples are to be believed, they are on the verge of going third in London (can scarcely believe that but they managed to lose Glasgow), are struggling to hold onto second in Southern England as well and are already locked into third in Scotland.
The one crumb of comfort for them should be that when policy is looked at, Labour continue to lead in numerous areas in Scotland and a couple in the UK.
Their problem is that they are nowhere on the defining issues of the last three years. They need Brexit completion and the slaying of SIndy.
They need Theresa May and Ruth Davidson to get them back in the game.
The average of the crossbreaks are currently showing Labour sliding in the Midlands and as well as the North, with the Tories rising in the North to parity.
Usual caveats about crossbreaks apply,
The Ginger Beer torture method. Pratchett eventually did reveal what the "Ginger Beer Trick" actually is, although he despaired a bit that people actually had to be told. You shake it up real good to get the fizz going, then you stick it up the poor bastard's nose. Ouch.