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“Message discipline and clarity is like good underwear. You don’t want to wave it around but you notice if it’s not there.”
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And what of the substance of Corbyn's speech? I note Mr Brind draws an embarrassed veil of silence of the 'Self Financing Nationalisation of Care Homes', its key point.....
"Chlorine-soaked chickens will be on sale in British supermarkets if the US gets its way in a post-Brexit trade deal, Nick Clegg has warned."
Each time I go to the supermarket here in the US, I just love picking up my chlorine-soaked chickens.
"You tell me, but I suspect the good shoppers of Waitrose and Sainsbury’s and others might be a little bit shocked if, suddenly, they are having to eat this slightly white, chlorine-washed American chicken flesh"
lol
SLIGHTLY WHITE, CHLORINE-WASHED AMERICAN CHICKEN FLESH
Nick Clegg's having fun.
I'm starting to like him again.
“all we can ask is that Jeremy Corbyn is the best leader he can be.”
Oh dear, that’s Labour buggered then for 2020…
https://www.euractiv.com/section/trade-society/news/nothing-wrong-with-chlorine-washed-chicken-say-german-backers-of-ttip/
http://www.beuc.eu/blog/what-is-wrong-with-chlorinated-chicken/
IMHO the US should focus more on improving its farming practices instead of exporting their polluted products to the world.
I can't tell you about the supermarket fish here as my wife refuses to have it in the house. She's from a fishing town in Rhode Island and will only eat fish that's straight off the boat from the fish market at the quayside and as we're twenty-five miles iand that limits us a bit!
One thing that seems paradoxical to me is that food quality here in the US appears to be worse in the big cities. Produce from the supermarkets in southern Rhode Island where my wife is from isn't too bad and for the most part here in suburban Westchester County, New York, it's generally acceptable, but when we first moved over we lived on the Upper East Side in Manhattan (so not a poor neighbourhood by any means) for a few months and the supermarkets there and the quality of their produce was execrable. Yes, there are higher end places like Whole Foods or Trader Joes but they aren't that much better and much more expensive a lot of the time.
My point is that ridiculous exaggeration is what turns people off politicians. The US poultry industry does not all use chlorinated water for processing chickens and where it does, it is short-term immersion in a solution of 3ppm chlorine in water. Hardly "chlorine-soaked chickens"
I do agree with Don that a convincing economic narrative is crucial, though, and oppositions getting a hearing at all is non-trivial unless theGovernment is spectacularly screwing up.
I don't think American farmers will sell very many of their chickens here.
How would that help?
It's not lack of trying that makes Corbyn a poor opposition leader. It's being Corbyn.
Ironically the minimum wage increases.will become good news for CEOs personally!
All that would achieve is to drive profitable industries offshore, and necessitate massive tax increases for those on lower incomes in order to continue to pay for public services. Until he can produce a properly costed proposal, Corbyn is living in an unelectable fantasy land.
The polling in favour of a suggested million pound earnings limit was only 39%, without anyone trying to explain the consequences.
The actual policy wouldn't work, mind.
Today Theresa May will announce the Billionaire's Brexit. One that will deliver lower public spending, more cuts to corporation tax, reduced employment rights, lower environmental standards, slower wages growth, higher prices and shorter retirements. It is a goal so open that only the most chaotically incompetent leader of the opposition could fail to hit the back of the net. Let's see how your man does.
Ironically the minimum wage increases.will become good news for CEOs personally!
https://www.gov.uk/food-labelling-and-packaging/food-labelling-what-you-must-show
When we leave the EU, presumably we will label food from EU countries as well?
Brexit's sacrificial lambs, to mix a metaphor, will be our Leave voting farmers, who will see their protected interests traded away in the diplomatic game, just as those of fishermen were traded away before them and will continue to be so.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2969613/Washed-NOT-ready-eat-bagged-salads-doused-eight-hour-old-tap-water-unhealthy-levels-chlorine.html
We know Donald eats it - Kentucky Fried!
Just like ordinary folks, except possibly not with gold plated cutlery on their private jet....
The sticking point for the labelling of antipodean meat will be that it's all 'halal'.
Why don't we offer both nice, free range, slightly brown chicken flash next to it? Then we can see who chooses the cheap meat vs the tasty meat.
For the small Derbyshire hill farmer, no.
But UK farmers will always be small-scale compared to other countries; we just don't have enough land.
We don't need to return to the bad old days of Mandleson and Campbell, but the policy and the message needs to be agreed on by everyone, then communicated in such a way as to avoid confusion. There was little evidence of that in Labour's relaunch last week.
And yes, people will read things into policy gaps of others in a way that furthers their own position and agenda, that's pretty much human nature among politicians of all colours.
“Message discipline and clarity is like good underwear. You don’t want to wave it around but you notice if it’s not there.”
As a simile about clarity it isn't at all clear. Who will notice if it isn't there?
Do you have Ralph's or Pavillions/Vons? They are both decent but may be West Coast stores.
The proles don't know what's good for them.
They must be denied a choice.
Goodness - look at the mess we're in after they were asked about Brexit!
Faults are probably an over-reliance on benchmarks/consultants and a generally acceptance of astronomical rewards being normal, but there's no motive in it as you imply
Also boycott Iceland, Asda, Morrisons, Aldi and Lidl.
I appreciate that you wanted to huff and puff and I'm sorry to have to bring you up short with data. I do try to take care when trolling to make sure that I am on a secure footing before doing so.
Or something.
It is no coincidence that fruit farmers in Gloucestershire all vote (a) Labour and (b) Remain.
Edit - and don't forget the onward chain - slaughterhouses, cutting/boning plants and packaging all employ immigrants in large numbers.
Equally however leaving the EU means leaving Cap, which is geared to French needs and is also shockingly ineptly run especially in this country.
Personally, I remain adrift with no-one after my vote.
If the art 50 bill fails to pass through parliament then there's no option but a GE
Waitrose is skewed but that simply reflects its store locations
The chart really shows reminaers like yourself should shop at the coop
From the age of thirteen, I spent the Easter and summer holidays, and the bright summer nights, working with a gang. It was labour intensive - potatoes were picked by hand in the sixties, and that was one of the major crops in Lincolnshire. But there was never a shortage of labour. Automation has since reduced the need for so much labour.
However, immigrant labour is cheap and uncomplaining, and of course, the farmer will prefer it. The alternative is to offer better conditions to the locals.
This isn't rocket science, you know.
The farmer and possibly the consumer may prefer the immigrants, but those pesky locals have other ideas. Yet Labour, the party of the workers, sides with the former.
The Remainers may well believe the locals are stupid to vote Leave. They may be right. They probably have experience of potato prices in Waitrose, so they know these things.
We will grow less maize and corn, but produce more high-quality meats, pies, cheeses, wines, hops and organic vegetables.
We have a very benign climate here, superb for growing produce, entrepreneurial farmers and high animal welfare standards. Possibly even higher outside the EU. Britain has a great brand.
We don't need CAP subsidies to succeed, or a closed European market. There is just a tendency to fear here due to loss aversion and the unknown of change.
And M&S.
Meeks is projecting, as usual.
If anything it's the other way round to what you suggest.
It is all I am their leader, I must follow from the bearded wonder.
It reminds me of a well worn advertising story about Barnum and Bailey. In the US in the 19th century there were lots of travelling circuses. They'd arrive in town and stick their posters up but the towns seldom bothered to remove them after the show.
Eventually towns became full of posters for various circuses. Barnum decided the way to get noticed was to send a real elephant into the town before the circus arrived. No one could miss it. Thus Barnham and Baiey became the most famous circus in the US
SLIGHTLY WHITE, CHLORINE-WASHED AMERICAN CHICKEN FLESH
http://www.nickpalmer.org.uk/
So, a majority, but not exactly a slam dunk. A very large number of shoppers at both voted Leave
http://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-corbyn-dismisses-claims-he-is-a-vote-loser-ahead-of-by-elections-10731903
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