I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
You stats might be right, but as we always say on PB with respect to actually placing your bets: DYOR
Just looking through my bets, if I'd held my nerve and stuck to my instincts on rural turnout not being picked up by the polls I'd have been up £8.3k, I blinked when the Trump camp conceded and the exit polls did exactly what the rest of the polls did and ignored the rural vote.
Would have should have, could have won more or lost less is always true though
There was a lot of talk in my local pub last night about when they would prosecute Trump for assault etc etc. If I have it right though, POTUS is immune from criminal charges. Am I right?
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With him in charge america is in freefall decline instead of just relative slow decline. Many people can't see that yet but give it a couple years and their blinders will come crashing down.
In the short termTrump will probably do fine, with taxcuts for the rich and corporations, and some infrastructure spending. In the long term he may wellbankrupt America. His spending programme sounds a lot like Abenomics without domestic savings.
Glad you are on, Doc. I have made, through mutual outside interests, friends with a cardiologist from East Anglia and we have been chatting off and on about the state of the NHS. I am now genuinely fearful, not of its continued existence (for that is a matter of politics), but of its ability to deliver a first world standard of care and treatment beyond another five years or so.
God knows what the answer is. More money is definitely part of it but not on its own sufficient. Sacking all non-medical senior managers would also seem to be a necessary but not sufficient action. All in all if we want high standards of care I think we are going to have to have a major reset of how it operates.
Just looking through my bets, if I'd held my nerve and stuck to my instincts on rural turnout not being picked up by the polls I'd have been up £8.3k, I blinked when the Trump camp conceded and the exit polls did exactly what the rest of the polls did and ignored the rural vote.
If only I'd backed more winners, and dumped more losers...!
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Would be nice if this had been mentioned in the articles discussing how Trump got fewer votes than other presidential candidates. Now if only he could run government like he ran his campaign...
Just looking through my bets, if I'd held my nerve and stuck to my instincts on rural turnout not being picked up by the polls I'd have been up £8.3k, I blinked when the Trump camp conceded and the exit polls did exactly what the rest of the polls did and ignored the rural vote.
Would have should have, could have won more or lost less is always true though
There was a lot of talk in my local pub last night about when they would prosecute Trump for assault etc etc. If I have it right though, POTUS is immune from criminal charges. Am I right?
Just looking through my bets, if I'd held my nerve and stuck to my instincts on rural turnout not being picked up by the polls I'd have been up £8.3k, I blinked when the Trump camp conceded and the exit polls did exactly what the rest of the polls did and ignored the rural vote.
If only I'd backed more winners, and dumped more losers...!
Of course, I'm just irritated that my original theory about the polling was probably true and I didn't capitalise on it as well as I could have because I panicked.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Would be nice if this had been mentioned in the articles discussing how Trump got fewer votes than other presidential candidates. Now if only he could run government like he ran his campaign...
In other news, Nicole Scherzinger was filming a clip for the X Factor in my sister's pub yesterday. The Fiddlers may become world famous, though I guess everyone will be watching Strictly.
Like various Brexiteers, a lot of the Trumpers still seem very angry despite having won. Anyone got a rough timescale for when the anger subsides?
Or when it gets directed back at Trump in spades for failing to deliver on the sky high expectations he has created, as he concentrates on feathering his own nest very much in the style of Putin and corrupt third world politicians who he admires as a consequence. A tax dodging politician who railed against a fixed political system that has indeed turned out to be fixed in his favour. The test is whether he can deliver real increases in median US incomes, and if not the rust belt is going to revert back to their traditional allegiances.
The silver lining for the Democrats is that they must surely now have realised that radical agendas can win elections, and with Clinton gone they have a good opportunity to win in 2020 with a charismatic candidate who can genuinely capture those dashed hopes of change, so long as that candidate isn't hobbled by the sort of establishment baggage (plus the extraordinary saga around Wikileaks to boot) that did for Clinton. Moreover, there is potential for a reaction against Republicans on a scale that could deliver a Senate and Congressional majority for the Democrats come 2020, in contrast to a Hillary Clinton presidency which would by contrast have been hobbled by those bodies from day one from 2016.
Are we sure that radical *left-wing* agendas can win elections? The only example I can think of in a developed country is Tsipras, and that was after the moderate left had been pretty much destroyed implementing EU/IMF austerity.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Miss. P., if that is accurate then Trump will have the most freedom of action of any modern president because he will have far fewer favours to be repaid and is not beholden to the big corporations. That can only be a good thing.
Unfortunately, those in congress whose help he will need will have such donors and will not have such freedom of action.
In other news, Nicole Scherzinger was filming a clip for the X Factor in my sister's pub yesterday. The Fiddlers may become world famous, though I guess everyone will be watching Strictly.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
The collorory is that white voters were even more Pro-Trump/Anti-Hillary than thought ?
It's an angry article defending it's polling but it does raise an interesting question about the accuracy of Exit polling in the face of increased Absentee/early voting.
I see the talking heads on bbc news at the moment don't really get it.
This discussion on BBC just now was the wailing of the losers rather than a balanced discusssion on the way forward. Similar discussion just now on Sky. The broadcast media do not get it and show every sign of denial at the events of this week
Why are the BBC News, ITV News, SKY News and C4 News all in the same left leaning metrosexual zone? Three of them need to attract viewers and advertising, so why be out of line with their potentially largest audience? Their producers seem to have tin ears and just run lines and interviews that agree with their own politics.
Broadcasting from London they can only get interviewees who live in London - the liberal elite.
I don't know how long the professional embarrassment will last, but some Big Media organisations seem to at least grasp that you can't judge public opinion by a 24hr field trip into FlyOverLand once every 4yrs.
CNN has reverted to type already this morning - I guess the habit is just too hard to break.
For anyone who missed it - the Media Guy on CBS gets it in spades. His article should be pasted on the back of every MSM toilet door.
"There’s a place for opinionated journalism; in fact, it’s vital. But our causal, profession-wide smugness and protestations of superiority are making us unable to do it well.
Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.
What’s worse, we don’t make much of an effort to really understand, and with too few exceptions, treat the economic grievances of Middle America like they’re some sort of punchline. Sometimes quite literally so, such as when reporters tweet out a photo of racist-looking Trump supporters and jokingly suggest that they must be upset about free trade or low wages.
We have to fix this, and the broken reasoning behind it. There’s a fleeting fun to gang-ups and groupthink. But it’s not worth what we are losing in the process.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Other than billionaires Peter Thiel and Palmer Luckey, and his chief fundraiser Steven Mnuchin, who spent most of the previous 17 years at Goldman Sachs.
Adams County - Wisconsin Merrimack - New Hampshire Jefferson - Colorado Dauphin - Pennsylvania Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
This was the way to call this election early .There was live information being posted on county election sites ( not sure whether it should have been accessible) eg on the Pinellas site in Florida which I highlighted and was discussed here .This showed where real votes were coming in by party affiliation.Yes you had to guess about the NPAs but there had been a fair amount of information that these were probably breaking for Trump ,but even if even there was a clear swing to him on the returned votes .
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
Having emailed in several times about writing articles and not having had any response at all its easy to conclude that its not worth the candle if your face doesn't fit.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
You stats might be right, but as we always say on PB with respect to actually placing your bets: DYOR
I do. But I did not have the time to invest in the USA Presidential election so left it alone and just observed, having covered some restaurant bills from Brexit, GE2015 and 2014 Europeans.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
You stats might be right, but as we always say on PB with respect to actually placing your bets: DYOR
I think there were a lot of bullish and aggressive Clinton posters, who did regularly rubbish Trumpeters.
Of course, most of them are now nursing losses, so we must go easy.
I don't bet on US politics, as -- despite living in Boston for many years -- I don't understand the US and find its politics too alien for me to have any confidence in my views.
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With him in charge america is in freefall decline instead of just relative slow decline. Many people can't see that yet but give it a couple years and their blinders will come crashing down.
In the short termTrump will probably do fine, with taxcuts for the rich and corporations, and some infrastructure spending. In the long term he may wellbankrupt America. His spending programme sounds a lot like Abenomics without domestic savings.
Glad you are on, Doc. I have made, through mutual outside interests, friends with a cardiologist from East Anglia and we have been chatting off and on about the state of the NHS. I am now genuinely fearful, not of its continued existence (for that is a matter of politics), but of its ability to deliver a first world standard of care and treatment beyond another five years or so.
God knows what the answer is. More money is definitely part of it but not on its own sufficient. Sacking all non-medical senior managers would also seem to be a necessary but not sufficient action. All in all if we want high standards of care I think we are going to have to have a major reset of how it operates.
I was out last night with some colleagues at dinner, from a variety of specialities.
Not a cheerful bunch, and with a variety of concerns. Last year GO topped up the NHS deficit via raiding the training and capital budgets to top up the acute Trusts, and the consequences of that are filtering through. The decline in standards is continous, and threatens British medicine in its entirety, as private hospitals do no training, relying on staff trained in the NHS. British nurse training is dire and makes medical education look sound. The NHS needs to train constantly to replenish staff who leave. The rota gaps are approaching unbridgeable stages.
It is not simple cutting senior management, unless you get rid of the targets and CQC and similar things that they have to report on. I do not see an easy solution.
Adams County - Wisconsin Merrimack - New Hampshire Jefferson - Colorado Dauphin - Pennsylvania Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
This was the way to call this election early .There was live information being posted on county election sites ( not sure whether it should have been accessible) eg on the Pinellas site in Florida which I highlighted and was discussed here .This showed where real votes were coming in by party affiliation.Yes you had to guess about the NPAs but there had been a fair amount of information that these were probably breaking for Trump ,but even if even there was a clear swing to him on the returned votes .
Pinellas and Hillsborough County are two great ones to look at, even if Hillsborough lost its bellwhether status this time.
Latino decisions with massive amounts of denial that 25-27% of Latino voters turned out for Trump. They can't understand why so they choose to ignore it.
I have to say I find their precinct level analysis compelling, but the crucial thing missing is comparison at the precinct level to 2012.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Other than billionaires Peter Thiel and Palmer Luckey, and his chief fundraiser Steven Mnuchin, who spent most of the previous 17 years at Goldman Sachs.
And Trump was well short of putting in $100million himself.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
You stats might be right, but as we always say on PB with respect to actually placing your bets: DYOR
I think there were a lot of bullish and aggressive Clinton posters, who did regularly rubbish Trumpeters.
Of course, most of them are now nursing losses, so we must go easy.
I don't bet on US politics, as -- despite living in Boston for many years -- I don't understand the US and find its politics too alien for me to have any confidence in my views.
Not necessarily! Sensible bettors separate their betting from their politics.
As an LD Remainer who despises Trump and Corbyn, I made money betting on LibDem losses, Leave, Trump winning and Corbyn too.
On Monday I posted that Trump overall looked value (5.7) and that the Midwest states looked value for him too.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
The actual comments are very much to the right though, that maybe too is a reflection of the time. I would have expected six years into a coalition/ majority tory government we would have had a more enthused centre left ready to take over, but they seem to be lost at sea.
Since everyone's vote is recorded as to who actually voted - and we know their race, and we have results down to "town" level. Shouldn't there essentially be a
{W, H, B} matrix with ~ 50,000 columns that you can transpose for the "answer" as to the actual racial breakdown
It is not simple cutting senior management, unless you get rid of the targets and CQC and similar things that they have to report on. I do not see an easy solution.
As a system grows it becomes less and susceptible to be managed. The required complexity is simply beyond human control. There's the famous story of a Russian diplomat in London in the early 70s being amazed at the offering in a local bakery and asking who was in charge of bread in London - getting the astonishing answer 'nobody - it's a free market'. The health needs of a country of 60m people is a tad more complex than the London bread market! It's literally not manageable. Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out. But not us in NHS religionland.
Adams County - Wisconsin Merrimack - New Hampshire Jefferson - Colorado Dauphin - Pennsylvania Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
This was the way to call this election early .There was live information being posted on county election sites ( not sure whether it should have been accessible) eg on the Pinellas site in Florida which I highlighted and was discussed here .This showed where real votes were coming in by party affiliation.Yes you had to guess about the NPAs but there had been a fair amount of information that these were probably breaking for Trump ,but even if even there was a clear swing to him on the returned votes .
Pinellas and Hillsborough County are two great ones to look at, even if Hillsborough lost its bellwhether status this time.
Yes Hillsborough early on was sending the "right "messages about the result but there seemed to be a flood of late Dems voting there which was atypical. Next time I will make sure I have teed up access to more of these county election sites beforehand though.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Miss. P., if that is accurate then Trump will have the most freedom of action of any modern president because he will have far fewer favours to be repaid and is not beholden to the big corporations. That can only be a good thing.
Unfortunately, those in congress whose help he will need will have such donors and will not have such freedom of action.
It's very much in line with his Drain The Swamp mantra - nobody owns him and he'll take a dim view of those who try pork barrelling.
I think this is enormously refreshing and great news for US politics - there's far too much money/kick backs sloshing about. The Clinton Foundation is just the most revolting example of it.
Hillary/Bill speeches 'cost' $225k each - when she became SoS - Bill's price went up to $550k.
I wonder why? Not.
I sincerely hope all those foreign potentates ask for their money back - along with all of Wall St.
I'm sorry to be slow/ignorant. As a non-punter I am just wondering whether anyone has yet offered a market (Is that the word?) on whether Trump will not get a second term.
Thanks both. It's gonna develop I feel. To his advantage he's got both sides of the Congress under a rough Republican control, so he'll really have to cock up to be impeached. One must hope that he does much (light years) better than his previous pronouncements would lead one to think.
I think that having both houses of Congress on his side is actually a disadvantage. He needs checks and balances. As it is he'll have nobody but himself to blame (although that won't stop him blaming others).
Both houses are not on his side, they are establishment Republican. They have deep philosophical differences with much of Trump's rhetoric, which is not nearly as anti-government intervention as traditional Republican world-view. If he's serious about what he's said there's going to be a lot of tense negotiation with his supposed own side.
But if he is the famed deal-maker that he claims to be, surely there is room for a trade?
He doesn't really care either way about a lot of the social stuff that the Republicans in congress will want; the congesspeople are not natural supporters of his build-lots-of-bridges economics. The trade is something on one for something on the other.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
Thank you for the response. But perhaps asking specific people who post views contrary to the "settled view" of most of the moderators and the main authors, should be done? 1. Articles written from someone who is pro-May would be a start. (I am not very pro-May). 2. Also articles from a viewpoint that is pro-Brexit. 3. Re-start the PB annual forecast. 4. What will Phillip Hammond do?
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
TBH, given almost all my posts were rubbished - why would I bother? I'd be happy to pen an article on my thinking and rationale. If anyone is interested in what I learned/discovered by embedding myself in the Trump culture - let me know.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
TBH, given almost all my posts were rubbished - why would I bother? I'd be happy to pen an article on my thinking and rationale. If anyone is interested in what I learned/discovered by embedding myself in the Trump culture - let me know.
I'd be very interested. Might be interesting to know how that translates over to France for next spring. I get the feeling that before the campaign is over Le Pen will have backed Juppé into a corner and forced him into offering an in/out referendum on the EU.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
Thank you for the response. But perhaps asking specific people who post views contrary to the "settled view" of most of the moderators and the main authors, should be done? 1. Articles written from someone who is pro-May would be a start. (I am not very pro-May). 2. Also articles from a viewpoint that is pro-Brexit. 3. Re-start the PB annual forecast. 4. What will Phillip Hammond do?
There has always been a fairly balanced discussion below the line, whatever the header.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
Having emailed in several times about writing articles and not having had any response at all its easy to conclude that its not worth the candle if your face doesn't fit.
What roughly were the topics (and political line) that you wrote about?
Adams County - Wisconsin Merrimack - New Hampshire Jefferson - Colorado Dauphin - Pennsylvania Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
This was the way to call this election early .There was live information being posted on county election sites ( not sure whether it should have been accessible) eg on the Pinellas site in Florida which I highlighted and was discussed here .This showed where real votes were coming in by party affiliation.Yes you had to guess about the NPAs but there had been a fair amount of information that these were probably breaking for Trump ,but even if even there was a clear swing to him on the returned votes .
Pinellas and Hillsborough County are two great ones to look at, even if Hillsborough lost its bellwhether status this time.
Yes Hillsborough early on was sending the "right "messages about the result but there seemed to be a flood of late Dems voting there which was atypical. Next time I will make sure I have teed up access to more of these county election sites beforehand though.
If you wanted to call it really early the returning officer of I think Diixville Notch expressed surprise that hillary only won 17-14 and that was about 7am UK time. a small sample tho I admit.
I see the talking heads on bbc news at the moment don't really get it.
This discussion on BBC just now was the wailing of the losers rather than a balanced discusssion on the way forward. Similar discussion just now on Sky. The broadcast media do not get it and show every sign of denial at the events of this week
Their producers seem to have tin ears and just run lines and interviews that agree with their own politics.
Broadcasting from London they can only get interviewees who live in London - the liberal elite.
Big Media organisations seem to at least grasp that you can't judge public opinion by a 24hr field trip into FlyOverLand once every 4yrs.
CNN has reverted to type already this morning - I guess the habit is just too hard to break.
For anyone who missed it - the Media Guy on CBS gets it in spades. His article should be pasted on the back of every MSM toilet door.
"There’s a place for opinionated journalism; in fact, it’s vital. But our causal, profession-wide smugness and protestations of superiority are making us unable to do it well.
Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.
What’s worse, we don’t make much of an effort to really understand, and with too few exceptions, treat the economic grievances of Middle America like they’re some sort of punchline. Sometimes quite literally so, such as when reporters tweet out a photo of racist-looking Trump supporters and jokingly suggest that they must be upset about free trade or low wages.
We have to fix this, and the broken reasoning behind it. There’s a fleeting fun to gang-ups and groupthink. But it’s not worth what we are losing in the process.
Isn't it true that the western democracies generally are in 'nothing to lose', 'cut nose off to spite face' mood and have punished those who were in power. Populists from the left and right have done or are doing well. Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, UKIP in the UK and Trump in the US. Even Trudeau in Canada, although not a populist, nevertheless came from a bad third place to win a majority. It seems that the important thing that electorates wanted to do was kick out the status quo candidate and not look too closely at who they were electing. Syriza, Brexit and Trump were dangerous choices, we're in for a bumpy ride.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
TBH, given almost all my posts were rubbished - why would I bother? I'd be happy to pen an article on my thinking and rationale. If anyone is interested in what I learned/discovered by embedding myself in the Trump culture - let me know.
Plato I would be interested in your article. Having a lot of contact with the people sharing the demographics in favour of Brexit, I was very comfortable challenging the main pro-Brexit people here during the referendum as they seemed to be completely out of touch with a large part of the voters. On the USA I have less contact these days although I have in the past visited 20+ of the individual states including some rust belt areas. Come on Robert (rcs) challenge the mindset of your PB colleagues!
It could be the last spin of the dice for Lib Dems on the national stage, if they lose their 'love-in' with all things EU what is their USP ?
Their role as a protest party has now been taken by the SNP, UKIP etc and their reneging on their signature policy on tuition fees will not be forgotten in a hurry.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
Maybe a week of PB devoted to debating the NHS with only articles from PB people?
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
You stats might be right, but as we always say on PB with respect to actually placing your bets: DYOR
I think there were a lot of bullish and aggressive Clinton posters, who did regularly rubbish Trumpeters.
Of course, most of them are now nursing losses, so we must go easy.
I don't bet on US politics, as -- despite living in Boston for many years -- I don't understand the US and find its politics too alien for me to have any confidence in my views.
I've been wrong on both of the big political betting events of this yet, but managed to salvage things both times, if less profitably this time than in June. As with financial trading, taking a position is fine, provided you are able to accept and act quickly enough when it becomes obvious you are wrong.
Isn't it true that the western democracies generally are in 'nothing to lose', 'cut nose off to spite face' mood and have punished those who were in power. Populists from the left and right have done or are doing well. Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, UKIP in the UK and Trump in the US. Even Trudeau in Canada, although not a populist, nevertheless came from a bad third place to win a majority. It seems that the important thing that electorates wanted to do was kick out the status quo candidate and not look too closely at who they were electing. Syriza, Brexit and Trump were dangerous choices, we're in for a bumpy ride.
Re your last sentence, I would suggest "brave" is a better adjective in a political context.
Since there's no Tory on the ballot paper isn't that perfectly fine?
Standard rules for any party is don't campaign against your own party's candidate but since there is no Tory I can't see how campaigning for Zac would be an issue. Presumably that is in fact why there is no Tory standing ...
Adams County - Wisconsin Merrimack - New Hampshire Jefferson - Colorado Dauphin - Pennsylvania Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
This was the way to call this election early .There was live information being posted on county election sites ( not sure whether it should have been accessible) eg on the Pinellas site in Florida which I highlighted and was discussed here .This showed where real votes were coming in by party affiliation.Yes you had to guess about the NPAs but there had been a fair amount of information that these were probably breaking for Trump ,but even if even there was a clear swing to him on the returned votes .
Pinellas and Hillsborough County are two great ones to look at, even if Hillsborough lost its bellwhether status this time.
Yes Hillsborough early on was sending the "right "messages about the result but there seemed to be a flood of late Dems voting there which was atypical. Next time I will make sure I have teed up access to more of these county election sites beforehand though.
If you wanted to call it really early the returning officer of I think Diixville Notch expressed surprise that hillary only won 17-14 and that was about 7am UK time. a small sample tho I admit.
(((Dan Hodges))) @DPJHodges Nov 8 Do we really need to go through all the hassle of a full election? The people of Dixville Notch have spoken. I say let's leave it there.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
I recieved a letter with an appointment from large hospital for a few hours of testing. It clashed with a client meeting so I called immediately (a few weeks ahead) to re-arrange. They said they could not re-arrange over the phone or online and they would have to "send another appointment letter". 4 weeks later I got a letter asking why I missed the earlier appointment! I called and asked what happened to my cancellation and cited time and date.... no response. I then got another call proposing a different date and time... when I was on holiday! 4 months later and next month I go for the appointment. Just basic incompetence.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Miss. P., if that is accurate then Trump will have the most freedom of action of any modern president because he will have far fewer favours to be repaid and is not beholden to the big corporations. That can only be a good thing.
Unfortunately, those in congress whose help he will need will have such donors and will not have such freedom of action.
It's very much in line with his Drain The Swamp mantra - nobody owns him and he'll take a dim view of those who try pork barrelling.
I think this is enormously refreshing and great news for US politics - there's far too much money/kick backs sloshing about. The Clinton Foundation is just the most revolting example of it.
Hillary/Bill speeches 'cost' $225k each - when she became SoS - Bill's price went up to $550k.
I wonder why? Not.
I sincerely hope all those foreign potentates ask for their money back - along with all of Wall St.
I heard one statistic which blew me away. Hillary spent $1.4 billion on her campaign, The Donald just (well, I guess that's one use of the word 'just') $100 million.
PS Did not see the earlier posts before posting this. They, rather than mine, look more realistic. But it is still a huge difference between the two campaigns.
'What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste?'
Approx. £ 1billion.
'NHS to reveal cost of missed appointments to patients - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33375976 3 Jul 2015 - Overall, missed GP and hospital appointments cost the health service in ... The move is part of efforts to reduce the £300m bill for "wasted" ...
I suspect the odds are shortening because after both Brexit and Trump it seems more likely that a Tory leaver will win than a LibDem.
Whilst I still think Zac is the favourite, I think the logic more likely works the other way - and know that the LibDems are already playing the 'make a stand against Trump' (not literally) positioning to the relatively liberal voters of Richmond Park - now is the time to stand up for liberal values etc.).
Since there's no Tory on the ballot paper isn't that perfectly fine?
Standard rules for any party is don't campaign against your own party's candidate but since there is no Tory I can't see how campaigning for Zac would be an issue. Presumably that is in fact why there is no Tory standing ...
The party only allows members to support one party. As we now know with Busgate, lots of things come into expenses. So, Tories will be ensuring expenses, supporting a non-Tory. Technically, party should throw them out. Will be interesting to see what happens.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
In the context of the NHS that looks like nifty accounting to me.
I would just like to publicly say that I was clearly wrong when I called the election for Hillary in the early hours of Wednesday morning. I took the exit polls at face value....
Noted and very welcome.
But, the elephant in the room for PB moderators etc is the lack of contrary voices and articles on PB on major matters. We had with Brexit a ratio of at least 3:1 in the views of pro-Remain vs pro-Leave in the articles published. We have now had the USA Presidential elections where the articles seem to have been almost 10:1* for a Clinton win. This is not the Guardian.
We need more diversity in the articles.
* I may be exagerating but that is what it feels like.
While that's true, Mike can only publish the articles people write for him. Plato, for example, wrote a lot of comments, but I don't believe she wrote an article.
Thank you for the response. But perhaps asking specific people who post views contrary to the "settled view" of most of the moderators and the main authors, should be done? 1. Articles written from someone who is pro-May would be a start. (I am not very pro-May). 2. Also articles from a viewpoint that is pro-Brexit. 3. Re-start the PB annual forecast. 4. What will Phillip Hammond do?
There has always been a fairly balanced discussion below the line, whatever the header.
Well I think if Le Pen is only 2-3 points behind in the polls and she is promising an EU referendum while Juppé isn't, I'd like to do a header on why she'll win and take France out of the EU.
Speaking as a thread header writer, I find that very often articles aren't read at all and the discussion below the line proceeds on the basis of what the poster assumes was written as opposed to what was actually written. Some posters are exceptionally keen to find something to cause them offence, whether or not the ground for being offended actually exists.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
The NHS clearly thinks it is costing money, since every time I have a hospital appointment I get at least one SMS reminding me of the date and citing a cost figure for a missed appointment.
I suspect the odds are shortening because after both Brexit and Trump it seems more likely that a Tory leaver will win than a LibDem.
Whilst I still think Zac is the favourite, I think the logic more likely works the other way - and know that the LibDems are already playing the 'make a stand against Trump' (not literally) positioning to the relatively liberal voters of Richmond Park - now is the time to stand up for liberal values etc.).
I think the people of Richmond would end up being surprise Trump voters. They just wouldn't tell anyone they voted for Trump afterwards.
Speaking as a thread header writer, I find that very often articles aren't read at all and the discussion below the line proceeds on the basis of what the poster assumes was written as opposed to what was actually written. Some posters are exceptionally keen to find something to cause them offence, whether or not the ground for being offended actually exists.
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS. The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste? In most clinics I've seen as a patient, appointments are generally overbooked so you have to wait around, and presumably there are emergency cases to be fitted in the gaps. I'm suspicious that a civil servant has naively divided the fixed costs of the hospital or practice by the number of patients and declared that is the cost of an appointment, and so it must also be the cost of a missed appointment.
I recieved a letter with an appointment from large hospital for a few hours of testing. It clashed with a client meeting so I called immediately (a few weeks ahead) to re-arrange. They said they could not re-arrange over the phone or online and they would have to "send another appointment letter". 4 weeks later I got a letter asking why I missed the earlier appointment! I called and asked what happened to my cancellation and cited time and date.... no response. I then got another call proposing a different date and time... when I was on holiday! 4 months later and next month I go for the appointment. Just basic incompetence.
Your experience mirrors mine. It really is the easy bit that it's so crap on.
£ 59,000 a day in 2012 for translation & interpreter costs.
'NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16905491 6 Feb 2012 - NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health. 6 February 2012. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16905491. The NHS in England spends £59,000 a day on translating documents and providing interpreters, according to a health think tank.
Frank Luntz @FrankLuntz 14h14 hours ago Total campaign spending:
2016 • Clinton: $450 million • Trump: $239 million
2012 • Obama: $721.4 • Romney: $449.5
Clinton alot down on Obama is interesting.
$239 m must be the cheapest campaign in years.
That's roughly
$100m Trump money $25m casino big shot donation $110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Miss. P., if that is accurate then Trump will have the most freedom of action of any modern president because he will have far fewer favours to be repaid and is not beholden to the big corporations. That can only be a good thing.
Unfortunately, those in congress whose help he will need will have such donors and will not have such freedom of action.
It's very much in line with his Drain The Swamp mantra - nobody owns him and he'll take a dim view of those who try pork barrelling.
I think this is enormously refreshing and great news for US politics - there's far too much money/kick backs sloshing about. The Clinton Foundation is just the most revolting example of it.
Hillary/Bill speeches 'cost' $225k each - when she became SoS - Bill's price went up to $550k.
I wonder why? Not.
I sincerely hope all those foreign potentates ask for their money back - along with all of Wall St.
I heard one statistic which blew me away. Hillary spent $1.4 billion on her campaign, The Donald just (well, I guess that's one use of the word 'just') $100 million.
PS Did not see the earlier posts before posting this. They, rather than mine, look more realistic. But it is still a huge difference between the two campaigns.
Since there's no Tory on the ballot paper isn't that perfectly fine?
Standard rules for any party is don't campaign against your own party's candidate but since there is no Tory I can't see how campaigning for Zac would be an issue. Presumably that is in fact why there is no Tory standing ...
The party only allows members to support one party. As we now know with Busgate, lots of things come into expenses. So, Tories will be ensuring expenses, supporting a non-Tory. Technically, party should throw them out. Will be interesting to see what happens.
Isn't the Richmond Park by-election a cynical exercise to allow Zac to appear to be keeping his promise while in fact remaining as a Tory (IINO) MP? If he was truly leaving the Tory Party, which has a small majority, they would put up a candidate against him.
Speaking as a thread header writer, I find that very often articles aren't read at all and the discussion below the line proceeds on the basis of what the poster assumes was written as opposed to what was actually written. Some posters are exceptionally keen to find something to cause them offence, whether or not the ground for being offended actually exists.
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BBC News has two Americans on air who are both Republicans!
God knows what the answer is. More money is definitely part of it but not on its own sufficient. Sacking all non-medical senior managers would also seem to be a necessary but not sufficient action. All in all if we want high standards of care I think we are going to have to have a major reset of how it operates.
http://heinonline.org/HOL/LandingPage?handle=hein.journals/glj63&div=66&id=&page=
https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/797040860588294144
$100m Trump money
$25m casino big shot donation
$110m small donations from supporters
No corporate or Wall Street for Donald
Adams County - Wisconsin
Merrimack - New Hampshire
Jefferson - Colorado
Dauphin - Pennsylvania
Bay County - Michigan
Not had a look at how they've voted yet.
Trump 5,983 Clinton 3,780
Obama 5,542 Romney 4,644
email serverTwitter account ;-)Unfortunately, those in congress whose help he will need will have such donors and will not have such freedom of action.
Clinton 40,056 Trump 37,631
Obama 44,756 Romney 34,524
CNN has reverted to type already this morning - I guess the habit is just too hard to break.
For anyone who missed it - the Media Guy on CBS gets it in spades. His article should be pasted on the back of every MSM toilet door.
"There’s a place for opinionated journalism; in fact, it’s vital. But our causal, profession-wide smugness and protestations of superiority are making us unable to do it well.
Our theme now should be humility. We must become more impartial, not less so. We have to abandon our easy culture of tantrums and recrimination. We have to stop writing these know-it-all, 140-character sermons on social media and admit that, as a class, journalists have a shamefully limited understanding of the country we cover.
What’s worse, we don’t make much of an effort to really understand, and with too few exceptions, treat the economic grievances of Middle America like they’re some sort of punchline. Sometimes quite literally so, such as when reporters tweet out a photo of racist-looking Trump supporters and jokingly suggest that they must be upset about free trade or low wages.
We have to fix this, and the broken reasoning behind it. There’s a fleeting fun to gang-ups and groupthink. But it’s not worth what we are losing in the process.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/commentary-the-unbearable-smugness-of-the-press-presidential-election-2016/
151,885 Clinton 130,233 Trump
159,296 Obama 144,197 Romney
Of course, most of them are now nursing losses, so we must go easy.
I don't bet on US politics, as -- despite living in Boston for many years -- I don't understand the US and find its politics too alien for me to have any confidence in my views.
Not a cheerful bunch, and with a variety of concerns. Last year GO topped up the NHS deficit via raiding the training and capital budgets to top up the acute Trusts, and the consequences of that are filtering through. The decline in standards is continous, and threatens British medicine in its entirety, as private hospitals do no training, relying on staff trained in the NHS. British nurse training is dire and makes medical education look sound. The NHS needs to train constantly to replenish staff who leave. The rota gaps are approaching unbridgeable stages.
It is not simple cutting senior management, unless you get rid of the targets and CQC and similar things that they have to report on. I do not see an easy solution.
As an LD Remainer who despises Trump and Corbyn, I made money betting on LibDem losses, Leave, Trump winning and Corbyn too.
On Monday I posted that Trump overall looked value (5.7) and that the Midwest states looked value for him too.
{W, H, B} matrix with ~ 50,000 columns that you can transpose for the "answer" as to the actual racial breakdown
{W, H, B, O} = X.{W
________________H
________________B
________________O}
Left number of rows = Right number of rows = Number of precincts in the USA.
Its a big linear programming equation I think, but certainly solvable.
As a system grows it becomes less and susceptible to be managed. The required complexity is simply beyond human control. There's the famous story of a Russian diplomat in London in the early 70s being amazed at the offering in a local bakery and asking who was in charge of bread in London - getting the astonishing answer 'nobody - it's a free market'. The health needs of a country of 60m people is a tad more complex than the London bread market! It's literally not manageable. Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out. But not us in NHS religionland.
I think this is enormously refreshing and great news for US politics - there's far too much money/kick backs sloshing about. The Clinton Foundation is just the most revolting example of it.
Hillary/Bill speeches 'cost' $225k each - when she became SoS - Bill's price went up to $550k.
I wonder why? Not.
I sincerely hope all those foreign potentates ask for their money back - along with all of Wall St.
He doesn't really care either way about a lot of the social stuff that the Republicans in congress will want; the congesspeople are not natural supporters of his build-lots-of-bridges economics. The trade is something on one for something on the other.
1. Articles written from someone who is pro-May would be a start. (I am not very pro-May). 2. Also articles from a viewpoint that is pro-Brexit.
3. Re-start the PB annual forecast.
4. What will Phillip Hammond do?
Tim Farron has stated that the Lib Dems will vote against Article 50 unless there is a referendum on the final Brexit deal.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/tim-farron-unless-the-government-agrees-to-a-referendum-on-the-final-brexit-deal-the-party-will-vote-against-article-50-52425.html
'Unfortunately the NHS has also morphed into a religion. Labour drones line up to promise no more privatisation. we need to accept that if managed as a Stalinist central blob we'll get a Stalinist central blob, with the quality and efficiency that implies. The only way the health system can really hum and be efficient is as a market. Paid for by tax but a market for delivery. Even the bloody French have worked this out.'
Interesting,I was treated by a French doctor recently who described the NHS as a communist system.
The NHS needs to revert to an NHS and not and International NHS.
The level of waste is incredible,missed GP & hospital appointments,GP's getting paid for non existent patients,translation & interpreter costs and that's before you look at other areas.
The democratically elected government needs to be able to fully implement their policies and not be blocked by the BMA et al that were not on the GE ballot paper..
http://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-democracy-burns-as-facebook-lets-fake-news-thrive-10652711
Word seems to be that this phenomenon contributed to Trump's triumph. Maybe a dry run for the even more objectionable Zuckerberg?
Trump 266,
Clinton 265,
Johnson 5,
Stein 1,
McMullin 1.
Populists from the left and right have done or are doing well. Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, UKIP in the UK and Trump in the US. Even Trudeau in Canada, although not a populist, nevertheless came from a bad third place to win a majority. It seems that the important thing that electorates wanted to do was kick out the status quo candidate and not look too closely at who they were electing.
Syriza, Brexit and Trump were dangerous choices, we're in for a bumpy ride.
"The Rock" considering a 2020 run !
'I am surprised that no one has commented yet on the major political statement today.
Tim Farron has stated that the Lib Dems will vote against Article 50 unless there is a referendum on the final Brexit deal.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/tim-farron-unless-the-government-agrees-to-a-referendum-on-the-final-brexit-deal-the-party-will-vote-against-article-50-52425.html'
It could be the last spin of the dice for Lib Dems on the national stage, if they lose their 'love-in' with all things EU what is their USP ?
Their role as a protest party has now been taken by the SNP, UKIP etc and their reneging on their signature policy on tuition fees will not be forgotten in a hurry.
Even the Labour Party managed not to fall into this Heffalump Trap.
Isn't it true that the western democracies generally are in 'nothing to lose', 'cut nose off to spite face' mood and have punished those who were in power.
Populists from the left and right have done or are doing well. Syriza in Greece, Podemos in Spain, UKIP in the UK and Trump in the US. Even Trudeau in Canada, although not a populist, nevertheless came from a bad third place to win a majority. It seems that the important thing that electorates wanted to do was kick out the status quo candidate and not look too closely at who they were electing.
Syriza, Brexit and Trump were dangerous choices, we're in for a bumpy ride.
Re your last sentence, I would suggest "brave" is a better adjective in a political context.
Standard rules for any party is don't campaign against your own party's candidate but since there is no Tory I can't see how campaigning for Zac would be an issue. Presumably that is in fact why there is no Tory standing ...
Do we really need to go through all the hassle of a full election? The people of Dixville Notch have spoken. I say let's leave it there.
I called and asked what happened to my cancellation and cited time and date.... no response. I then got another call proposing a different date and time... when I was on holiday! 4 months later and next month I go for the appointment.
Just basic incompetence.
PS Did not see the earlier posts before posting this. They, rather than mine, look more realistic. But it is still a huge difference between the two campaigns.
'What do missed GP and hospital appointments actually waste?'
Approx. £ 1billion.
'NHS to reveal cost of missed appointments to patients - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33375976
3 Jul 2015 - Overall, missed GP and hospital appointments cost the health service in ... The move is part of efforts to reduce the £300m bill for "wasted" ...
Hillary Clinton 4, Donald Trump 2, Gary Johnson 1 -- and a single write-in surprise: Mitt Romney.
according to CNN.
Whilst I still think Zac is the favourite, I think the logic more likely works the other way - and know that the LibDems are already playing the 'make a stand against Trump' (not literally) positioning to the relatively liberal voters of Richmond Park - now is the time to stand up for liberal values etc.).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj10SORMNyw
'NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health - BBC News
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16905491
6 Feb 2012 - NHS translation bill tops £23m, says 2020 Health. 6 February 2012. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-16905491. The NHS in England spends £59,000 a day on translating documents and providing interpreters, according to a health think tank.
http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/
If he was truly leaving the Tory Party, which has a small majority, they would put up a candidate against him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3926512/Is-Putin-QUIT-Russian-president-step-ill-health-hints-Kremlin-expert.html