Assuming this is true (& I don't take the Platonic view of uncorroborated sources), the decision to write the letter is pretty extraordinary.
One could reason that it's precisely why he did it. The DOJ are obstructing the FBI and there's what looks like a power struggle going on. So Comey's flushed them out.
There's also this report
Emails Found on Huma & Weiner devices were in file titled 'Life Insurance'
One could reason that it's precisely why he did it. The DOJ are obstructing the FBI and there's what looks like a power struggle going on. So Comey's flushed them out.
There's also this report
Emails Found on Huma & Weiner devices were in file titled 'Life Insurance'
One could reason all sorts of things. It doesn't make Comey right - and more pertinently goes against all accepted procedure.
"Goes against all accepted procedure"
I am trying to avoid commenting on the utter farce going on in the USA at the moment. I have to say on this you, other supporters and the Democratic Party cannot have it both ways.
Last night on this very site Clinton fans were claiming even if she had used a private email / server then she never gave away " Americas Nuclear secrets" . She probably didn't however she knew full well the process in which she engaged was " against all accepted procedures" and having been around government for many years would have certainly known this ( despite her denial or saying she didn't understand in which case she is just completely incompetent ).
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
In saying that I have to agree the latest Comey letter intervention does seem quite extraordinary given that such a letter has been written without apparently viewing the evidence of email content. It might be when asked for full disclosure previously these string of emails were not mentioned? Or it could be something entirely different such as quite simply CYA.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
Maybe she did and maybe she didn't.
But I doubt she cared either way.
To the Clintons rules and regulations are for other people.
I'm not betting on 2020 yet, the best bet here looks to me to be @shadsy backing 10-11 on the field Bar Hillary, and in addition getting the time value of money for 4 years win or lose.
IMHO going 11/10 for Clinton is hilarious. She won't run if she isn't elected this time (so you may as well back her for POTUS 2016) and there must be a better than even chance she'll be impeached successfully over the e-mail fiasco. Even if not she is bound to face a better opponent than Trump.
TBH I think Pence has come out of this campaign pretty well. He has proved himself a popular supporter of change and he hasn't the baggage that Trump has (I assume)
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
There is a certain form of arrogance that I've seen in both public and private sectors among hard-driving leaders that rules are there to be broken when necessary, bureaucracy is always an unnecessary nuisance, stuff the formalities, let's get on with the job ("Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" is a much-admired attitude of this kind). Their experience of life is that it doesn't usually lead to bad consequences, unless people want to get rid of them for other reasons. Dismissal and even prosecution are relatively rare, I think, even at lower levels.
I have a Teutonic affection for following agreed procedures so this is all quite alien to me, but it goes with the leader types to a degree that most people may not realise. I don't think it should be treated as a uniquely awful disqualifying trait. Trump's erratic behaviour seems much more objectively worrying.
I doubt if the latest developments will affect the polls much. People either care about shoddy server security or they don't. They understand that Hillary has a slipshod record in that regard, and have factored it in already.
I think that is probably right. You either think this disregard for security and procedure makes her unfit to be President or you don't and it does look as if a plurality of Americans are not that bothered. But this might change if there are any charges for anyone close to Clinton. May depend what they have already said in the first inquiry.
One could reason that it's precisely why he did it. The DOJ are obstructing the FBI and there's what looks like a power struggle going on. So Comey's flushed them out.
There's also this report
Emails Found on Huma & Weiner devices were in file titled 'Life Insurance'
One could reason all sorts of things. It doesn't make Comey right - and more pertinently goes against all accepted procedure.
"Goes against all accepted procedure"
I am trying to avoid commenting on the utter farce going on in the USA at the moment. I have to say on this you, other supporters and the Democratic Party cannot have it both ways.
Last night on this very site Clinton fans were claiming even if she had used a private email / server then she never gave away " Americas Nuclear secrets" . She probably didn't however she knew full well the process in which she engaged was " against all accepted procedures" and having been around government for many years would have certainly known this ( despite her denial or saying she didn't understand in which case she is just completely incompetent ).
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
In saying that I have to agree the latest Comey letter intervention does seem quite extraordinary given that such a letter has been written without apparently viewing the evidence of email content. It might be when asked for full disclosure previously these string of emails were not mentioned? Or it could be something entirely different such as quite simply CYA.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
Maybe she did and maybe she didn't.
But I doubt she cared either way.
To the Clintons rules and regulations are for other people.
It seems like a pattern of behaviour across all the dealings of the Clintons. And risible lying to get out of a corner. She made her bed and is now tucked up in it. If she wins, I hate to think what she'll do with power like that.
First 2 or 3 overs after the break may well be critical here. If England can see that out then this might become relatively easy despite never chasing more than 209 in Asia before.
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
There is a certain form of arrogance that I've seen in both public and private sectors among hard-driving leaders that rules are there to be broken when necessary, bureaucracy is always an unnecessary nuisance, stuff the formalities, let's get on with the job ("Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" is a much-admired attitude of this kind). Their experience of life is that it doesn't usually lead to bad consequences, unless people want to get rid of them for other reasons. Dismissal and even prosecution are relatively rare, I think, even at lower levels.
I have a Teutonic affection for following agreed procedures so this is all quite alien to me, but it goes with the leader types to a degree that most people may not realise. I don't think it should be treated as a uniquely awful disqualifying trait. Trump's erratic behaviour seems much more objectively worrying.
I doubt if the latest developments will affect the polls much. People either care about shoddy server security or they don't. They understand that Hillary has a slipshod record in that regard, and have factored it in already.
That's an interesting post about the mentality of some people at the top, thanks.
I wonder if it's related to the periodic "war on red tape" we get from politicians and the media. When it comes down to it, many of the rules and regulations we have to deal with are there for a reason, and the war becomes more a set of small, pointless skirmishes. Some choose to ignore the regulations because, to their eyes, they're pointless.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently. But in her (partial) defence, it looks as though several other politicians of all stripes have been doing it, though that's not much of an excuse.
First 2 or 3 overs after the break may well be critical here. If England can see that out then this might become relatively easy despite never chasing more than 209 in Asia before.
First 2 or 3 overs after the break may well be critical here. If England can see that out then this might become relatively easy despite never chasing more than 209 in Asia before.
I cannot believe that Comey would have written his letter unless he had a steer, possibly from NYPD, that the contents of the e-mails were at least pertinent to the original investigation. He almost certainly did not know their content in detail but he surely knew, at the very least, that they were not simply duplicates of those already disclosed.
According to quoted law enforcement agents they don't know anything yet about the content of the emails and the new investigation is an "abundance of caution" on the part of Comey. They may turn something up but there's no reason at this stage to believe they will.
I was very critical of the speed of the FBI investigation much earlier in the year, principally for the reasons were are seeing now. They have got themselves involved at a horribly politically sensitive time. Given the source of these e-mails and the closeness with Clinton it is truly remarkable that this has only come out now. To really turn the race though there is going to have to be a smoking gun in this material.
The FBI went through tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of emails as part of that investigation over a period of a year and decided Clinton didn't have a case to answer, although they were critical of her processes. It was hardly a rushed judgment call.
First 2 or 3 overs after the break may well be critical here. If England can see that out then this might become relatively easy despite never chasing more than 209 in Asia before.
Statistics like that in cricket are meant to be broken. One of those highest run chases was for the loss of only one wicket so had the target been higher there's little reason to think we could not have reached 300 in the past.
One issue with records regarding run chases is that the game ends not only when you're all out, but it also ends when you reach your target.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently. But in her (partial) defence, it looks as though several other politicians of all stripes have been doing it, though that's not much of an excuse.
Off topic. Just been watching MOTD where Gary Lineker described the goal Gaston Ramirez scored for Middlesbrough yesterday as his first in two years. Well Gary, I suppose that would be correct if you ignore the 7 he scored for Middlesbrough during their promotion run-in earlier in the year. Must have been too busy watching Leicester to notice?
There is a certain form of arrogance that I've seen in both public and private sectors among hard-driving leaders that rules are there to be broken when necessary, bureaucracy is always an unnecessary nuisance, stuff the formalities, let's get on with the job ("Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" is a much-admired attitude of this kind). Their experience of life is that it doesn't usually lead to bad consequences, unless people want to get rid of them for other reasons. Dismissal and even prosecution are relatively rare, I think, even at lower levels.
Apologies for snipping your words slightly, Nick, but yes I've seen this too.
It's often the case when private sector people come into the public sector, they bring the private sector mores with them. I've heard it as "JFDI" (I'll leave you to work it out). In my experience, they don't last long. Much of what I've seen from the most strong-willed (let's call it that) is tantamount to bullying and harassment and that's unacceptable in all Councils and most sensible organisations.
It comes down to what I've always believed - businessmen make bad politicians. They are used to minions obeying their every word - they are used to command and control. In politics, you have to argue and persuade and convince and many in the private sector (in my experience) just aren't very good at it.
The private sector person as a senior officer in a Council may be able to intimidate his or her staff or colleagues but will run up against Councillors who think THEY are in charge and don't take being lectured to by an officer, however senior.
I'll be honest - I'd rather be ruled by a competent sinner than an incompetent saint.
I cannot believe that Comey would have written his letter unless he had a steer, possibly from NYPD, that the contents of the e-mails were at least pertinent to the original investigation. He almost certainly did not know their content in detail but he surely knew, at the very least, that they were not simply duplicates of those already disclosed.
According to quoted law enforcement agents they don't know anything yet about the content of the emails and the new investigation is an "abundance of caution" on the part of Comey. They may turn something up but there's no reason at this stage to believe they will.
I was very critical of the speed of the FBI investigation much earlier in the year, principally for the reasons were are seeing now. They have got themselves involved at a horribly politically sensitive time. Given the source of these e-mails and the closeness with Clinton it is truly remarkable that this has only come out now. To really turn the race though there is going to have to be a smoking gun in this material.
The FBI went through tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of emails as part of that investigation over a period of a year and decided Clinton didn't have a case to answer, although they were critical of her processes. It was hardly a rushed judgment call.
No it was very much the opposite of a rushed judgment call, that was the problem. The interminable delays brought the investigation right through the Primaries into the campaign where everything becomes so fraught.
Mr. Nashe, several races ago there was a similar (erroneous) comment made by F1 commentators regarding the safety car (which was even wrong the race beforehand). Must admit I sometimes turn commentary off.
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
There is a certain form
I doubt if the latest developments will affect the polls much. People either care about shoddy server security or they don't. They understand that Hillary has a slipshod record in that regard, and have factored it in already.
That's an interesting post about the mentality of some people at the top, thanks.
I wonder if it's related to the periodic "war on red tape" we get from politicians and the media. When it comes down to it, many of the rules and regulations we have to deal with are there for a reason, and the war becomes more a set of small, pointless skirmishes. Some choose to ignore the regulations because, to their eyes, they're pointless.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently. But in her (partial) defence, it looks as though several other politicians of all stripes have been doing it, though that's not much of an excuse.
I run into this at work too.
I often need to take documents as electronic files to meetings, but the only way that I can do this is via an encrypted memory stick or by emailing to my private email. I cannot do the latter with patient identifiable data or with items of similar nature.
When organisations expect people to work from home, and provide 24 hour responses, then it can be very tempting to circumnavigate the rules simply so that the job can be done.
I agree with NickP that this email business is probably already priced in, though clearly not what Hillary wanted to dominate the news agenda.
Probably much of the Dickieleaks story is backed in. Clinton and Trump both have horrible fav/unfav ratings, albeit Donald's are worse. In the final analysis you wouldn't want Clinton in charge of your computer security and neither would you leave your teenage daughter alone in a room with Trump for a nano second.
US voters have the unenviable choice of picking the least worst of two appalling candidates.
Probably much of the Dickieleaks story is backed in. Clinton and Trump both have horrible fav/unfav ratings, albeit Donald's are worse. In the final analysis you wouldn't want Clinton in charge of your computer security and neither would you leave your teenage daughter alone in a room with Trump for a nano second.
US voters have the unenviable choice of picking the least worst of two appalling candidates.
I guess in Britain it would be like IDS vs Corbyn....
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently. But in her (partial) defence, it looks as though several other politicians of all stripes have been doing it, though that's not much of an excuse.
It seems like a pattern of behaviour across all the dealings of the Clintons. And risible lying to get out of a corner. She made her bed and is now tucked up in it. If she wins, I hate to think what she'll do with power like that.
I don't know - was Nixon worse, or JFK or any number of others ? Trump is no saint, let's be fair so should we support him simply because his "flaws" aren't the same as HRC's ?
No, anyone who reads up on their American political history will soon discover it's not the idealistic democracy we imagine. Vote rigging, fraud, malpractice, bribery have all happened there (just as they have here). The American system has its corruption and its venalities but show me the perfect democracy - we've moved on from the Athenian city state.
It's not a question of me refusing to believe what's being revealed about HRC - it's dragged her down no question - but at the end of the day I find the prospect of her in the Oval Office with all her flaws more appealing than the prospect of Donald Trump bringing back trickledown (and how that will improve the lot of his WWC supporters is a mystery to me) and working out his personal vendettas from the West Wing.
In any case, IF Trump wins, the 2018 mid terms will be a meltdown for the GOP and Trump will spend the second half of his term blocked by an hostile Senate and Congress.
Off topic. Just been watching MOTD where Gary Lineker described the goal Gaston Ramirez scored for Middlesbrough yesterday as his first in two years. Well Gary, I suppose that would be correct if you ignore the 7 he scored for Middlesbrough during their promotion run-in earlier in the year. Must have been too busy watching Leicester to notice?
I thought he said "first premiership goal in 2 years"; but obviously Middlesborough were not in the Premiership last year.
Leicester back on form, Spurs horrible divers again. Deli Ali is an embarrasment.
Mr. Nashe, several races ago there was a similar (erroneous) comment made by F1 commentators regarding the safety car (which was even wrong the race beforehand). Must admit I sometimes turn commentary off.
Some are better than others. Jonathan Pearce's style is not to everyone's taste, but he clearly loves football and has an encyclopaedic knowledge of the game. He would not have made such a howler.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently.
FWIW the standard punishment for a single basic infringement (i.e. sending a single email from a work email to a personal account for whatever reason) is:
1. Zero bonus that year 2. Block on any promotion that year
There was a well known case of a CS banker who lost $600,000 + a promotion to MD for this. Severely damaged his career.
Assuming this is true (& I don't take the Platonic view of uncorroborated sources), the decision to write the letter is pretty extraordinary.
One could reason that it's precisely why he did it. The DOJ are obstructing the FBI and there's what looks like a power struggle going on. So Comey's flushed them out.
There's also this report
Emails Found on Huma & Weiner devices were in file titled 'Life Insurance'
One could reason all sorts of things. It doesn't make Comey right - and more pertinently goes against all accepted procedure.
"Goes against all accepted procedure"
I am trying to avoid commenting on the utter farce going on in the USA at the moment. I have to say on this you, other supporters and the Democratic Party cannot have it both ways.
Last night on this very site Clinton fans were claiming even if she had used a private email / server then she never gave away " Americas Nuclear secrets" . She probably didn't however she knew full well the process in which she engaged was " against all accepted procedures" and having been around government for many years would have certainly known this ( despite her denial or saying she didn't understand in which case she is just completely incompetent ).
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
In saying that I have to agree the latest Comey letter intervention does seem quite extraordinary given that such a letter has been written without apparently viewing the evidence of email content. It might be when asked for full disclosure previously these string of emails were not mentioned? Or it could be something entirely different such as quite simply CYA.
I don't entirely disagree with that, but there are good reasons why we hold law enforcement and politicians to different standards. I'd comment in detail, but I am on the road today. & for the record, I'm not a Clinton fan.
HRC's troubles are of her own making by "going against all accepted procedures" . It's not what's in the emails that an issue here its the fact that these emails even exist most importantly where they do. Any lesser person would be out of a job now and potentially facing a prison sentence. Of course there are some that are always above the laws that us plebs have to adhere to under threat of serious punishment. Like I say you either follow accepted procedure or you don't but if you don't then you do so at your own risk and must accept the consequences of your actions.
Mr Moses, I raely agree with your posts but on this occasion I do. Totally.Surely to god HRC knew what she was doing.
There is a certain form of arrogance that I've seen in both public and private sectors among hard-driving leaders that rules are there to be broken when necessary, bureaucracy is always an unnecessary nuisance, stuff the formalities, let's get on with the job ("Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!" is a much-admired attitude of this kind). Their experience of life is that it doesn't usually lead to bad consequences, unless people want to get rid of them for other reasons. Dismissal and even prosecution are relatively rare, I think, even at lower levels.
I have a Teutonic affection for following agreed procedures so this is all quite alien to me, but it goes with the leader types to a degree that most people may not realise. I don't think it should be treated as a uniquely awful disqualifying trait. Trump's erratic behaviour seems much more objectively worrying.
I doubt if the latest developments will affect the polls much. People either care about shoddy server security or they don't. They understand that Hillary has a slipshod record in that regard, and have factored it in already.
It does seem to me from a casual observers point of view that HRC disregarded normal protocols yet seems to be able to carry on regardless. On the other hand the Director of the FBI is being castigated for writing a letter which had HRC followed the "accepted procedures" in the first place would not have been ever been needed nor any of the investigations.
One will most likely become POTUS and the leader of the free world the other will be fired and retire in ignominy.
Off topic. Just been watching MOTD where Gary Lineker described the goal Gaston Ramirez scored for Middlesbrough yesterday as his first in two years. Well Gary, I suppose that would be correct if you ignore the 7 he scored for Middlesbrough during their promotion run-in earlier in the year. Must have been too busy watching Leicester to notice?
I thought he said "first premiership goal in 2 years"; but obviously Middlesborough were not in the Premiership last year.
Leicester back on form, Spurs horrible divers again. Deli Ali is an embarrasment.
Just checked on the I-player: 'Gaston Ramirez hasn't scored for almost two years ...' was what he said. Worth noting too, that neither Shearer or Murphy corrected him.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently.
FWIW the standard punishment for a single basic infringement (i.e. sending a single email from a work email to a personal account for whatever reason) is:
1. Zero bonus that year 2. Block on any promotion that year
There was a well known case of a CS banker who lost $600,000 + a promotion to MD for this. Severely damaged his career.
Does it matter what the content of the email is? "Remember to get cat food" being rather different to "blue horseshoe loves anacott steel"
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently.
FWIW the standard punishment for a single basic infringement (i.e. sending a single email from a work email to a personal account for whatever reason) is:
1. Zero bonus that year 2. Block on any promotion that year
There was a well known case of a CS banker who lost $600,000 + a promotion to MD for this. Severely damaged his career.
Does it matter what the content of the email is? "Remember to get cat food" being rather different to "blue horseshoe loves anacott steel"
He'd forwarded a marketing presentation to his personal account because the CS remote access wasn't working. (It being 48 hours after a circular email setting out the new policy didn't help).
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently.
FWIW the standard punishment for a single basic infringement (i.e. sending a single email from a work email to a personal account for whatever reason) is:
1. Zero bonus that year 2. Block on any promotion that year
There was a well known case of a CS banker who lost $600,000 + a promotion to MD for this. Severely damaged his career.
Does it matter what the content of the email is? "Remember to get cat food" being rather different to "blue horseshoe loves anacott steel"
It seems like a pattern of behaviour across all the dealings of the Clintons. And risible lying to get out of a corner. She made her bed and is now tucked up in it. If she wins, I hate to think what she'll do with power like that.
I don't know - was Nixon worse, or JFK or any number of others ? Trump is no saint, let's be fair so should we support him simply because his "flaws" aren't the same as HRC's ?
No, anyone who reads up on their American political history will soon discover it's not the idealistic democracy we imagine. Vote rigging, fraud, malpractice, bribery have all happened there (just as they have here). The American system has its corruption and its venalities but show me the perfect democracy - we've moved on from the Athenian city state.
It's not a question of me refusing to believe what's being revealed about HRC - it's dragged her down no question - but at the end of the day I find the prospect of her in the Oval Office with all her flaws more appealing than the prospect of Donald Trump bringing back trickledown (and how that will improve the lot of his WWC supporters is a mystery to me) and working out his personal vendettas from the West Wing.
In any case, IF Trump wins, the 2018 mid terms will be a meltdown for the GOP and Trump will spend the second half of his term blocked by an hostile Senate and Congress.
Whichever side wins will get caned in 2018. If Clinton wins, the Republicans could well be on more than 60 Senate seats after the mid-terms.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
There are only three computer programming languages worth knowing:
- Python, 'cause it's awesome - C, 'cause it's essential - Javascript, 'cause you'll need to do something 'webby' at some point
If you don't want to learn these, then learn something completely esoteric: Erlang or something equivalent. Something where the talent pool is small, and the contracting rates are awesome.
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Surely it's like fortune tellers.
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
The key concept of Java being that you have to write two pages of boilerplate before you get to the actual program logic?
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
The key concept of Java being that you have to write two pages of boilerplate before you get to the actual program logic?
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
The key concept of Java being that you have to write two pages of boilerplate before you get to the actual program logic?
Only 2? You must be using some fancy modern framework.
That said Java 8 looks to have dragged the language into the early 21at century as it has something approaching first class functions. The trend towards fluent frameworks also makes it more bearable.
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
And at least twice as much money to spend as well.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
The key concept of Java being that you have to write two pages of boilerplate before you get to the actual program logic?
Ah - like COBOL you mean! or LITHP (in joke).
Yesterday I knocked up some simple Python (maybe 12 lines of code) that pushed all my Android notifications to a Slack channel, and allowed me to respond to emails/texts/etc inside Slack.
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Michigan looks at best "difficult", but if AA turnout is lower in Detroit it could give Trump a sniff (Wisconsin drops before Michigan, mind)
Mind you Michigan confounded the pollsters in the primaries.
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Surely it's like fortune tellers.
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
And people only remember the correct predictions.
It's probably just as well that there are women who are attracted to ugly men with strange habits, as the human race would die out otherwise.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
Don't sweat the language you are taught with. It's all about the concepts that you can transfer across languages.
The key concept of Java being that you have to write two pages of boilerplate before you get to the actual program logic?
Ah - like COBOL you mean! or LITHP (in joke).
I used to be a programmer, and did a comp sci degree. I'd say you need to be sure the course involves using more than one language so that they have a couple of types/examples on your CV. We did Pascal, C, Fortran, assembler and some of us opted for additional stuff like snobol (this was early 1980s).
Occasionally I look at jobs pages and it all seems to be java, scripting languages and IDE environment.
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Surely it's like fortune tellers.
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
And people only remember the correct predictions.
My best man had the same technique, he would hit on almost every woman he met with a blatent and fairly crude line, delivered with a degree of charm. 90% of the time he would be knocked back immediately, but he had plenty of the evening left to find the 10% who were up for it. It takes a pretty thick skin, and indiscrimate taste to apply the principle though!
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
Trump's state visiting strategy looks sound enough. One area he has been guided by others I think. If it was down to Trump alone he'd probably be in New York and California..
Michigan looks at best "difficult", but if AA turnout is lower in Detroit it could give Trump a sniff (Wisconsin drops before Michigan, mind)
Mind you Michigan confounded the pollsters in the primaries.
It reminds me of McCain and Romney spending precious time in Pennsylvania in their final days. The candidate has to offer the prospect of a viable route to victory whilst certainly in McCain's case knowing the effort was entirely futile. Romney at least had the excuse that he genuinely thought the polls were skewed .... sounds familiar.
No point Trump spending time in Alabama or Idaho .. unless there's a teenage beauty pageant happening ?!?
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
There are only three computer programming languages worth knowing:
- Python, 'cause it's awesome - C, 'cause it's essential - Javascript, 'cause you'll need to do something 'webby' at some point
If you don't want to learn these, then learn something completely esoteric: Erlang or something equivalent. Something where the talent pool is small, and the contracting rates are awesome.
Thanks for your reply. Luckily I already programme in Python (recreationally) but will need/would like a formal qualification. For my undergraduate degree dissertation I used Python to generate g-code for 3d printing (mechanical engineering).
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
Trump's state visiting strategy looks sound enough. One area he has been guided by others I think. If it was down to Trump alone he'd probably be in New York and California..
He's visiting Michigan not because he will win it he won't, but because it is a symbol of his economic message.
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Surely it's like fortune tellers.
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
And people only remember the correct predictions.
My best man had the same technique, he would hit on almost every woman he met with a blatent and fairly crude line, delivered with a degree of charm. 90% of the time he would be knocked back immediately, but he had plenty of the evening left to find the 10% who were up for it. It takes a pretty thick skin, and indiscrimate taste to apply the principle though!
About half of all silly (substitute adventurous/impulsive/curious/self-absorbed/vain/desperate/etc) people (among whom I sometimes count myself) are female.
A timely reminder to PBers to note where the candidates are over the closing 10 ten days. Especially the Trump campaign as he has far few surrogates and will have to throw the dice to pull a route to 270.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
Normally sound advice. But does Trump play by these rules? Does he even listen to people who tell him to go to such and such state?
Trump's state visiting strategy looks sound enough. One area he has been guided by others I think. If it was down to Trump alone he'd probably be in New York and California..
He's visiting Michigan not because he will win it he won't, but because it is a symbol of his economic message.
Then you camp out in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. FOP or bust !!!!!!
Assuming this is true (& I don't take the Platonic view of uncorroborated sources), the decision to write the letter is pretty extraordinary.
If this does swing the election and there is ultimately nothing of substance in the emails then the FBI will be seen to have directly interfered in the election.
I am 100% behind Clinton getting what is due to her if she has committed a crime. But this is wrong because it has been raised too close to the election for voters to know whether there is any truth in it before voting. It will therefore do her harm whether there is anything in the emails or not. The FBI knew this and have therefore taken a decision that they know will impact on the election against all previous conventions.
When we get to the bottom of this there will be political intent somewhere down the line. Doesn't bode well for US democracy when Trump is already claiming the election is "rigged".
@NickPalmer Your comment is so true regarding powerful people who ignore rules. In fact often they have scathing contempt for the very rules that they try and enforce on others. Recruitment...they bring in their mates. They use sectaries to sort out all their social affairs. Going AWOL without any kind of accountability. Coming into the office pissed and getting someone to drive them back. Getting people to forge signatures on their behalf. Getting people to manipulate auditing and financial regs. And just generally making stuff up on the hoof and expecting others to back them up. That's the public sector for you.
In the private sector...it's on whole different level of corruption. Obviously the things about people going AWOL, coming in stoned or pissed, making stuff up doesn't count...they are not under that kind of scrutiny. But the stories I know or have heard. I know someone who got the firm to fly over his dogs on the private jet to avoid quarantine. Office parties where cocaine and prostitutes were bought in. And just the corruption...fixing stuff, contracts, back handers and swindling.
That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman." And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
It's the past, but like COBOL it'll continue to be the past for a long, long time to come.
I agree with rcs1000 about python/c/javascript/weird-thing being the best combination, but it's all similar enough that it doesn't matter that your course is in Java.
50% turnout. Looks like another centre right coalition. The pirate party which are in the news all the time got 14% of the votes (27,449), I guess they are angry students or whatever. Don't read too much in to a microstate with an electorate of 250,000
tyson said: " That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman." And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it. "
I agree. But I also find it indisputinably scary. I now worry about the democratic process.
OT: Does anyone here work as a computer programmer? I'm considering going back to university to study a computer science conversion MSc but the whole course uses the Java programming language. Is this a good language to learn or is it 'the past'?
I did until two years ago (although software engineer is a better term IMO).
I'd argue the language is fairly irrelevant: what matters are the underlying concepts.
Firstly, software covers a vast multitude of sins. Think of the area(s) you'd like to work in: if the embedded space, then Perl/C/asm might be a good combination; if web, then Python/JS/Java. Or there is the weird and wild world of databases, where dragons and devils lurk. There are many, many more areas you could choose. Pick some that interest you and choose a course that matches as many of the areas as possible.
Secondly, most languages cover the same concepts (leaving aside compiled versus interpreted). More important than languages are data structures. Write a linked list, and then write a bug-free one. Learn binary trees and when they should be used. There's plenty more. Some languages give you them for free (e.g. linked list classes or templates), but it is vital you understand how they work. Many graduates do not.
Thirdly, if you're a good engineer then you learn more outside the course than you do in it (note: I've virtually no qualifications to be an engineer, yet was in the industry for yonks, including as a freelancer/contractor). If you don't enjoy it as an occasional hobby, you probably won't enjoy it as a career.
Fourthly, learn saleable skills. *Always* use source control, be it Git, Subversions, CVS - I even saw SCCS at a place a few years back. Get used to checking in and checking out code and documentation, but also branching and merging. Always comment and document code and checkins. As you write code, consider how you'll be testing that particular routine. This are all language-independent skills, but vital. It's good to show them at interview as well.
Fifthly, learn how compilers and linkers work, and preferably processors. They're at the root of what you'll be doing, and I see too may graduates who don't understand them (then again, I was in the embedded space). If you like low-level stuff, teach yourself assembler and write a device driver - Raspberry Pi might be good for this.
Some courses will teach you very little of this, but they're all good things to learn. Perhaps consider choosing a course not on the language they teach, but how many of the above they do.
Who could have said this test series with the minnows from Bangladesh would prove to be one of the most exciting in recent history? After all those tests in England that are decided on the coin toss and subsequently wrapped up in three days.
@NickPalmer Your comment is so true regarding powerful people who ignore rules. In fact often they have scathing contempt for the very rules that they try and enforce on others. Recruitment...they bring in their mates. They use sectaries to sort out all their social affairs. Going AWOL without any kind of accountability. Coming into the office pissed and getting someone to drive them back. Getting people to forge signatures on their behalf. Getting people to manipulate auditing and financial regs. And just generally making stuff up on the hoof and expecting others to back them up. That's the public sector for you.
In the private sector...it's on whole different level of corruption. Obviously the things about people going AWOL, coming in stoned or pissed, making stuff up doesn't count...they are not under that kind of scrutiny. But the stories I know or have heard. I know someone who got the firm to fly over his dogs on the private jet to avoid quarantine. Office parties where cocaine and prostitutes were bought in. And just the corruption...fixing stuff, contracts, back handers and swindling.
That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman." And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it.
The fact that you belittle the fact that the nation's security was entrusted to someone with no concept of self-security is very worrying.
Who could have said this test series with the minnows from Bangladesh would prove to be one of the most exciting in recent history? After all those tests in England that are decided on the coin toss and subsequently wrapped up in three days.
Great stuff from the Banglas
The sportsman in me wants to see Bangladesh win. However ....
Assuming this is true (& I don't take the Platonic view of uncorroborated sources), the decision to write the letter is pretty extraordinary.
One could reason that it's precisely why he did it. The DOJ are obstructing the FBI and there's what looks like a power struggle going on. So Comey's flushed them out.
There's also this report
Emails Found on Huma & Weiner devices were in file titled 'Life Insurance'
Hilary must be really bricking it , she has called up Scottish labour leader to canvas for her, flew her out urgently yesterday. How desperate is that.
@NickPalmer Your comment is so true regarding powerful people who ignore rules. In fact often they have scathing contempt for the very rules that they try and enforce on others. Recruitment...they bring in their mates. They use sectaries to sort out all their social affairs. Going AWOL without any kind of accountability. Coming into the office pissed and getting someone to drive them back. Getting people to forge signatures on their behalf. Getting people to manipulate auditing and financial regs. And just generally making stuff up on the hoof and expecting others to back them up. That's the public sector for you.
In the private sector...it's on whole different level of corruption. Obviously the things about people going AWOL, coming in stoned or pissed, making stuff up doesn't count...they are not under that kind of scrutiny. But the stories I know or have heard. I know someone who got the firm to fly over his dogs on the private jet to avoid quarantine. Office parties where cocaine and prostitutes were bought in. And just the corruption...fixing stuff, contracts, back handers and swindling.
That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman." And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it.
The fact that you belittle the fact that the nation's security was entrusted to someone with no concept of self-security is very worrying.
I am trying to put Hillary's reckless behaviour in some kind of context of how the powerful behave prompted by Nick's post this morning.
@NickPalmer Your comment is so true regarding powerful people who ignore rules. In fact often they have scathing contempt for the very rules that they try and enforce on others. Recruitment...they bring in their mates. They use sectaries to sort out all their social affairs. Going AWOL without any kind of accountability. Coming into the office pissed and getting someone to drive them back. Getting people to forge signatures on their behalf. Getting people to manipulate auditing and financial regs. And just generally making stuff up on the hoof and expecting others to back them up. That's the public sector for you.
In the private sector...it's on whole different level of corruption. Obviously the things about people going AWOL, coming in stoned or pissed, making stuff up doesn't count...they are not under that kind of scrutiny. But the stories I know or have heard. I know someone who got the firm to fly over his dogs on the private jet to avoid quarantine. Office parties where cocaine and prostitutes were bought in. And just the corruption...fixing stuff, contracts, back handers and swindling.
That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman." And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it.
The fact that you belittle the fact that the nation's security was entrusted to someone with no concept of self-security is very worrying.
But that point is that HRC is hardly the only person to have done this.
Security is hard and, as Mr Palmer mentioned below, some people think that it's something they don't have to bother with (I daresay in the case of politicians it's also wanting to keep something more secret as well as laziness).
However: I disagree with Mr Tyson when he says it's unimportant. It is really very important, and something they should be getting right. Sadly, this controversy is not going to encourage people to take infosec seriously ...
F1: interestingly, Hulkenberg's odds to lead lap 1 are down to 51. Which is still quite long but closer to the 30 or 40/1 I'd say is reflective of the actual chances.
From memory, though I forgot to put this in the pre-race piece, he's on the supersoft tyre. If there's a significant advantage to that, he has the starting advantage and the raw horsepower that those around him lack (only having one of the two respective advantages).
Maybe Weiner was e-mailing Hilary with photos of his anatomy.
That sounds like a cock and ball story to me ....
Only one ball? Was it in profile, or is there something (ahem) incomplete about Weiner?
By all accounts, Mr. Wiener had remarkable success with women before marrying Huma Abedin (who is pretty good-looking too) which is strange when you consider what he looks like.
Surely it's like fortune tellers.
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
And people only remember the correct predictions.
My best man had the same technique, he would hit on almost every woman he met with a blatent and fairly crude line, delivered with a degree of charm. 90% of the time he would be knocked back immediately, but he had plenty of the evening left to find the 10% who were up for it. It takes a pretty thick skin, and indiscrimate taste to apply the principle though!
Yes, a university housemate would use a very crude line (basically 'do you want to have sex with me?') on every girl he met in a nightclub, starting from 1am. He got lots of slaps around the face, but almost never left on his own. I was astonished this would ever work, but with 200 women in the club a 0.5% hit rate was good enough! He did this every week for three years!
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I saw tweets from Frank Luntz implying he knew about a sex scandal. I'm not sure there's much mileage left in that furrow - but who knows.
But I doubt she cared either way.
To the Clintons rules and regulations are for other people.
TBH I think Pence has come out of this campaign pretty well. He has proved himself a popular supporter of change and he hasn't the baggage that Trump has (I assume)
He'll only be 61 in 2020 as well.
Betting PostF1: pre-race piece up here:
http://enormo-haddock.blogspot.co.uk/2016/10/mexico-pre-race-2016.html
Three tips, one of which is 100/1.
I think that's the longest I've ever tipped in a weekend piece. Very unlikely to happen, but shorter odds than those on offer.
[Still perplexed by enormous traffic numbers].
Edited extra bit: clumsy wording there, by me. I mean the odds in reality are shorter than those expressed by the bookie. I think. We'll see.
Clinton 307 .. Trump 174 .. Toss-Up 57
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2016/presidential-race
I wonder if it's related to the periodic "war on red tape" we get from politicians and the media. When it comes down to it, many of the rules and regulations we have to deal with are there for a reason, and the war becomes more a set of small, pointless skirmishes. Some choose to ignore the regulations because, to their eyes, they're pointless.
Having said that, the regulations HRC is supposed to have broken are rather fundamental, both in business and in government, and the reasoning behind them is obvious. I also doubt others would have been treated quite so leniently. But in her (partial) defence, it looks as though several other politicians of all stripes have been doing it, though that's not much of an excuse.
One issue with records regarding run chases is that the game ends not only when you're all out, but it also ends when you reach your target.
http://dailysignal.com/2015/03/08/high-ranking-federal-officials-history-using-personal-email-government-business/
(Note: I haven't come across this 'site before)
It's often the case when private sector people come into the public sector, they bring the private sector mores with them. I've heard it as "JFDI" (I'll leave you to work it out). In my experience, they don't last long. Much of what I've seen from the most strong-willed (let's call it that) is tantamount to bullying and harassment and that's unacceptable in all Councils and most sensible organisations.
It comes down to what I've always believed - businessmen make bad politicians. They are used to minions obeying their every word - they are used to command and control. In politics, you have to argue and persuade and convince and many in the private sector (in my experience) just aren't very good at it.
The private sector person as a senior officer in a Council may be able to intimidate his or her staff or colleagues but will run up against Councillors who think THEY are in charge and don't take being lectured to by an officer, however senior.
I'll be honest - I'd rather be ruled by a competent sinner than an incompetent saint.
http://www.geekwire.com/2016/jeff-bezos-space-colonies-oneill/
Hopefully the 2020 POTUS race can be between Elon Musk & Jeff Bezos
I often need to take documents as electronic files to meetings, but the only way that I can do this is via an encrypted memory stick or by emailing to my private email. I cannot do the latter with patient identifiable data or with items of similar nature.
When organisations expect people to work from home, and provide 24 hour responses, then it can be very tempting to circumnavigate the rules simply so that the job can be done.
I agree with NickP that this email business is probably already priced in, though clearly not what Hillary wanted to dominate the news agenda.
No, anyone who reads up on their American political history will soon discover it's not the idealistic democracy we imagine. Vote rigging, fraud, malpractice, bribery have all happened there (just as they have here). The American system has its corruption and its venalities but show me the perfect democracy - we've moved on from the Athenian city state.
It's not a question of me refusing to believe what's being revealed about HRC - it's dragged her down no question - but at the end of the day I find the prospect of her in the Oval Office with all her flaws more appealing than the prospect of Donald Trump bringing back trickledown (and how that will improve the lot of his WWC supporters is a mystery to me) and working out his personal vendettas from the West Wing.
In any case, IF Trump wins, the 2018 mid terms will be a meltdown for the GOP and Trump will spend the second half of his term blocked by an hostile Senate and Congress.
Leicester back on form, Spurs horrible divers again. Deli Ali is an embarrasment.
1. Zero bonus that year
2. Block on any promotion that year
There was a well known case of a CS banker who lost $600,000 + a promotion to MD for this. Severely damaged his career.
& for the record, I'm not a Clinton fan.
One will most likely become POTUS and the leader of the free world the other will be fired and retire in ignominy.
"Remember to get cat food" being rather different to "blue horseshoe loves anacott steel"
- Python, 'cause it's awesome
- C, 'cause it's essential
- Javascript, 'cause you'll need to do something 'webby' at some point
If you don't want to learn these, then learn something completely esoteric: Erlang or something equivalent. Something where the talent pool is small, and the contracting rates are awesome.
Except all those present on PB of course!
If you hit on everything that moves, you're bound to have some success.
And people only remember the correct predictions.
Yesterday Trump was in Arizona (not a good sign) but in a related way he's making stops in Michigan this week - Lose Arizona (11 ECV) more than countered by winning the Great Lakes State (16 ECV), although Clinton leads in the latest EPIC/MRA +7 and Emerson +9 polls.
In contrast Clinton has multiple surrogates and is able to spread herself and them much more widely and assist in down ballot races.
That said Java 8 looks to have dragged the language into the early 21at century as it has something approaching first class functions. The trend towards fluent frameworks also makes it more bearable.
Python (and PythonAnywhere) are awesome.
Mind you Michigan confounded the pollsters in the primaries.
Occasionally I look at jobs pages and it all seems to be java, scripting languages and IDE environment.
Hhhhmmm ....
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/29/trump_supporter_terri_rote_voted_twice_in_iowa_because_polls_are_rigged.html
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No point Trump spending time in Alabama or Idaho .. unless there's a teenage beauty pageant happening ?!?
I am 100% behind Clinton getting what is due to her if she has committed a crime. But this is wrong because it has been raised too close to the election for voters to know whether there is any truth in it before voting. It will therefore do her harm whether there is anything in the emails or not. The FBI knew this and have therefore taken a decision that they know will impact on the election against all previous conventions.
When we get to the bottom of this there will be political intent somewhere down the line. Doesn't bode well for US democracy when Trump is already claiming the election is "rigged".
Your comment is so true regarding powerful people who ignore rules. In fact often they have scathing contempt for the very rules that they try and enforce on others. Recruitment...they bring in their mates. They use sectaries to sort out all their social affairs. Going AWOL without any kind of accountability. Coming into the office pissed and getting someone to drive them back. Getting people to forge signatures on their behalf. Getting people to manipulate auditing and financial regs. And just generally making stuff up on the hoof and expecting others to back them up. That's the public sector for you.
In the private sector...it's on whole different level of corruption. Obviously the things about people going AWOL, coming in stoned or pissed, making stuff up doesn't count...they are not under that kind of scrutiny. But the stories I know or have heard. I know someone who got the firm to fly over his dogs on the private jet to avoid quarantine. Office parties where cocaine and prostitutes were bought in. And just the corruption...fixing stuff, contracts, back handers and swindling.
That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman."
And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it.
I agree with rcs1000 about python/c/javascript/weird-thing being the best combination, but it's all similar enough that it doesn't matter that your course is in Java.
http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/elections2016/
50% turnout. Looks like another centre right coalition. The pirate party which are in the news all the time got 14% of the votes (27,449), I guess they are angry students or whatever.
Don't read too much in to a microstate with an electorate of 250,000
" That is why the Hillary email scandal is pathetic. Using your home server to process your work email. Big friggin deal. Years of public scrutiny into the Clinton affairs in the 1990's, all that money and expense...and what did they get for it? Some spunk on an intern's dress...and Clinton's use of language...:"I did not have sex with that woman."
And what have they got on Hillary Clinton? She used her home email...I mean FFS with a capital F.
I tell you comrade, the right wing in the States are utterly bonkers. They are like Plato on speed. They see the world through a prism of madness...so for them Hillary using a home email server...lock up the bitch, throw away the key and fry her on the chair while you are at it. "
I agree. But I also find it indisputinably scary. I now worry about the democratic process.
I'd argue the language is fairly irrelevant: what matters are the underlying concepts.
Firstly, software covers a vast multitude of sins. Think of the area(s) you'd like to work in: if the embedded space, then Perl/C/asm might be a good combination; if web, then Python/JS/Java. Or there is the weird and wild world of databases, where dragons and devils lurk. There are many, many more areas you could choose. Pick some that interest you and choose a course that matches as many of the areas as possible.
Secondly, most languages cover the same concepts (leaving aside compiled versus interpreted). More important than languages are data structures. Write a linked list, and then write a bug-free one. Learn binary trees and when they should be used. There's plenty more. Some languages give you them for free (e.g. linked list classes or templates), but it is vital you understand how they work. Many graduates do not.
Thirdly, if you're a good engineer then you learn more outside the course than you do in it (note: I've virtually no qualifications to be an engineer, yet was in the industry for yonks, including as a freelancer/contractor). If you don't enjoy it as an occasional hobby, you probably won't enjoy it as a career.
Fourthly, learn saleable skills. *Always* use source control, be it Git, Subversions, CVS - I even saw SCCS at a place a few years back. Get used to checking in and checking out code and documentation, but also branching and merging. Always comment and document code and checkins. As you write code, consider how you'll be testing that particular routine. This are all language-independent skills, but vital. It's good to show them at interview as well.
Fifthly, learn how compilers and linkers work, and preferably processors. They're at the root of what you'll be doing, and I see too may graduates who don't understand them (then again, I was in the embedded space). If you like low-level stuff, teach yourself assembler and write a device driver - Raspberry Pi might be good for this.
Some courses will teach you very little of this, but they're all good things to learn. Perhaps consider choosing a course not on the language they teach, but how many of the above they do.
Clinton 334 .. Trump 204
Ohio and Iowa move from Toss-Up Clinton to Toss-Up Trump :
http://www.270towin.com/maps/3n96P
*runs back to work*
Great stuff from the Banglas
Security is hard and, as Mr Palmer mentioned below, some people think that it's something they don't have to bother with (I daresay in the case of politicians it's also wanting to keep something more secret as well as laziness).
However: I disagree with Mr Tyson when he says it's unimportant. It is really very important, and something they should be getting right. Sadly, this controversy is not going to encourage people to take infosec seriously ...
From memory, though I forgot to put this in the pre-race piece, he's on the supersoft tyre. If there's a significant advantage to that, he has the starting advantage and the raw horsepower that those around him lack (only having one of the two respective advantages).
Still very much odds against, of course.