You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
He's talked about using nukes in a first strike capacity.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
He's talked about using nukes in a first strike capacity.
Not really. He was asked the equivalent of the SNP asking Theresa May whether she would use Trident and getting the answer 'yes'.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
He's talked about using nukes in a first strike capacity.
Trump has a few firm convictions - he has been a racist and a sexual predator for most of his adult life, for example - the rest seems to depend on what kind of mood he is in.
She sent her ex tens of thousands of emails? Don't these people have WhatsApp?
Maybe she'd signed into her email account from Weiner's laptop and everything was synched there?
Apart from the NSA saving every email from everyone - as KimDotCom pointed out - it's all there - he even gave the link to it. Wikileaks have the whole lot too.
I watched an Assange intv a few days ago - and he strongly implied Podesta's emails had been leaked to them, not hacked. Given Podesta's email password was passw0rd or something very similar - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to crack it. FFS he emailed it around.
A couple of weeks ago, another Anonymous bod posted his whole Apple and email account. When you're so casual with security - WTF do you expect?
You can't save people from their own stupidity. And Huma emailed herself to a Yahoo account. Doh.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
No matter what they do with Heathrow I would still rather use Schipol as my hub It is a million times better arranged as an airport
Than T3 and T4, maybe. Not compared with T5 and new T2.
Your comment makes Richard's point for him. T5 and T2 are great, but the difficulty of transferring between terminals severely limits Heathrow's usefulness as a hub.
Not really since codeshare flights work on the basis of being in the same terminal. Terminal 2 is the defacto Star Alliance terminal and T5 is BA/One World.
Try flying on BA from Las Vegas to Moscow and come back to me.
That's a 6h30 connection time according to Skyscanner...
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
The problem with Trump is that he's so erratic. He might well intend to be an isolationist, but wait till some foreign leader insults him.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
You want to be poor in the rubble?
* If Trump wins and starts WWIII that isn't something you can control. * What you can control is how much you bet and on who * A lot of the discussion here is on the shittiness of Trump vs the shittyness of Clinton and none of it is relevant * What I want to know is who is winning and what are the odds. * If Trump starts looking as if he is winning and the odds remain above 2/1 then betting on him looks good. If not, not.
I was watching one of the US business channels yesterday, and shorting the Mexican peso is a good proxy for betting on Trump.
Good to know. It's been mentioned that selling USD is also an approach: if Trump wins, USD will fall, at least in the short term. Since I'm trying to buy USD, at least in the short-term (see posts here passim), this is a bit worrying...
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
A racist, mysoginist, unstable, preening fool in the White House would clearly be a dream come true for some on here. Looks like it could well happen now, whatever the reality.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
A Trump presidency would certainly delight the Brexit/51st-State faction. Presumably, once Britain is subsumed, Trump would install Farage as a kind of viceroy.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
He's talked about using nukes in a first strike capacity.
Not really. He was asked the equivalent of the SNP asking Theresa May whether she would use Trident and getting the answer 'yes'.
He's been asked in many different ways about it and given various levels of terrifying answers.
He has said he would be willing to use nukes as a response to an non-nuclear attack by ISIS. He's fine with East Asian nuclear proliferation, with Saudi getting getting nukes.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
He's talked about using nukes in a first strike capacity.
So has Hilary. It's one reason why I'm extremely dubious as to whether she would actually be any better in practice than Trump.
(It is however perfectly possible she was merely bragging in order to look and sound tough. Equally, someone who says when asked how she would deal with problems in the ME that she would 'wipe Iran off the map' merely to look tough is not somebody who should be allowed near the top of politics anyway. That goes for Trump as well.)
At Last, we finally have a ECV POTUS market open again from Sporting - and boy has there been a movement on their spreads:
Clinton Mid-Spread: 304.5 (-24.5)
Trump: 231.5 (+24.5)
N.B. At the same time their spread margin has increased by a whopping 50% from 10 ECVs to 15. That's what i meant about them being Frit!
Meanwhile the latest forecast from 538.com shows a much smaller movement since yesterday:
Clinton 324 (-4)
Trump 213 (+4)
Spreadex remains closed ...... no surprise there then.
If you believe Nate Silver's numbers over those of Sporting's then there's money to be made, but the greatest care is required - it's easy to lose a lot of money on the spreads!
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Don't worry Stark when the "elites" get strung up we'll protect you!
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
It's her only chance. Scots are far too clever to vote to leave the Union.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
The problem with Trump is that he's so erratic. He might well intend to be an isolationist, but wait till some foreign leader insults him.
Well, I anticipate he might have fewer planning issues for his golf course here in Scotland once his hand is hovering over the big red button.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
In fairness I believe as a whole we are more likely to be uneducated, though clearly sizable numbers are not. It's the same mistake as thinking poor people don't vote Tory, when in fact millions probably do, though on the whole poorer constituencies do not have a majority of people who vote Tory.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
I disagree about Hilary. She will probably be too tired to do much as POTUS and stuff will just happen around her. Putin will feel able to push more confrontations in Europe. I view Trump as trigger happy. A lousy choice , which is why someone else would be welcome than these awful pair.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
I've met a few who seem mildly intelligent, but the majority just seem bent on mindless destruction and getting one over on their betters.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Tim Kaine is 470 on Betfair, if Hillary actually steps back he'll go favourite.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
I disagree about Hilary. She will probably be too tired to do much as POTUS and stuff will just happen around her. Putin will feel able to push more confrontations in Europe. I view Trump as trigger happy. A lousy choice , which is why someone else would be welcome than these awful pair.
Here we fundamentally disagree - Hillary's sabre rattling and war mongering worries me. Trump hasn't said anything like she has. Jill Stein has said on Twitter that she thinks Hillary is more dangerous re wars. I agree.
The #DraftYourDaughters meme got huge traction for a reason.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
In fairness I believe as a whole we are more likely to be uneducated, though clearly sizable numbers are not. It's the same mistake as thinking poor people don't vote Tory, when in fact millions probably do, though on the whole poorer constituencies do not have a majority of people who vote Tory.
Sunil Prasannan, BSc. (Hons.), ARCS, PhD, DIC*
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Hopefully they'll get quisling traitor remainers first.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
The problem with Trump is that he's so erratic. He might well intend to be an isolationist, but wait till some foreign leader insults him.
Well, I anticipate he might have fewer planning issues for his golf course here in Scotland once his hand is hovering over the big red button.
But with independence Scotland will be nuke free and thus safe from nuke threats as they will confront threats with bunches of heather and the deterent of midges on the grounds that who the f*** wants to go there in summer?
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Tim Kaine is 470 on Betfair, if Hillary actually steps back he'll go favourite.
Not happening whilst she has a pulse and is at liberty.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
In fairness I believe as a whole we are more likely to be uneducated, though clearly sizable numbers are not. It's the same mistake as thinking poor people don't vote Tory, when in fact millions probably do, though on the whole poorer constituencies do not have a majority of people who vote Tory.
Sunil Prasannan, BSc. (Hons.), ARCS, PhD, DIC*
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
“Philosophers are people who know less and less about more and more, until they know nothing about everything. Scientists are people who know more and more about less and less, until they know everything about nothing.”
If you believe Nate Silver's numbers over those of Sporting's then there's money to be made, but the greatest care is required - it's easy to lose a lot of money on the spreads!
The 538 numbers are now out of date though - a model lacking the latest relevant information is going to be wrong.
Doesn't really matter that the latest email "scandal" is not Clinton herself but an aide, there will be some damage as the whole saga gets re-aired.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Tim Kaine is 470 on Betfair, if Hillary actually steps back he'll go favourite.
Not happening whilst she has a pulse and is at liberty.
I'm fairly confident she'd have to be dead, rather than in jail.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
I disagree about Hilary. She will probably be too tired to do much as POTUS and stuff will just happen around her. Putin will feel able to push more confrontations in Europe. I view Trump as trigger happy. A lousy choice , which is why someone else would be welcome than these awful pair.
Surely she will only start wars if there is money in it for her. So smallish, profitable ones. Nuclear war would not boost their personal fortunes at all.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
I've met a few who seem mildly intelligent, but the majority just seem bent on mindless destruction and getting one over on their betters.
That's unfair. Although many LEAVE voters were stupid, so were many REMAIN voters and many LEAVErs had well-reasoned arguments for their vote (see Richard_Tyndall or rcs1000, for example). My issues with them revolved around the inaccuracy of their beliefs and the unrealism of their predicted outcomes, and/or that I disagreed with their priorities. It's usually a mistake to think your opponents are stupid.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
In fairness I believe as a whole we are more likely to be uneducated, though clearly sizable numbers are not. It's the same mistake as thinking poor people don't vote Tory, when in fact millions probably do, though on the whole poorer constituencies do not have a majority of people who vote Tory.
Sunil Prasannan, BSc. (Hons.), ARCS, PhD, DIC*
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
I'd guess that STEM graduates were overwhelming Leavers, while social science and arts types like Stark Boring were Remainers.
A Trump presidency would certainly delight the Brexit/51st-State faction. Presumably, once Britain is subsumed, Trump would install Farage as a kind of viceroy.
Farage ruling the UK would surely be a good thing.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Tim Kaine is 470 on Betfair, if Hillary actually steps back he'll go favourite.
Not happening whilst she has a pulse and is at liberty.
I'm fairly confident she'd have to be dead, rather than in jail.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
*Please* stop counting the degrees you did simultaneously as separate degrees, it's like people with Master's degrees counting their associated Diplomas as separate qualifications, even though you get the latter automatically when you get the former
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
*Please* stop counting the degrees you did simultaneously as separate degrees, it's like people with Master's degrees counting their associated Diplomas as separate qualifications, even though you get the latter automatically when you get the former
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
In fairness I believe as a whole we are more likely to be uneducated, though clearly sizable numbers are not. It's the same mistake as thinking poor people don't vote Tory, when in fact millions probably do, though on the whole poorer constituencies do not have a majority of people who vote Tory.
The levels of sanctimonious condescension on here are sometimes mind-boggling
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
I disagree about Hilary. She will probably be too tired to do much as POTUS and stuff will just happen around her. Putin will feel able to push more confrontations in Europe. I view Trump as trigger happy. A lousy choice , which is why someone else would be welcome than these awful pair.
Here we fundamentally disagree - Hillary's sabre rattling and war mongering worries me. Trump hasn't said anything like she has. Jill Stein has said on Twitter that she thinks Hillary is more dangerous re wars. I agree.
The #DraftYourDaughters meme got huge traction for a reason.
I agree. I prefer Trump's approach to Syria to Hillary's. It's the only thing I agree with him on.
First evidence of a Trump ground game in MD today. I received an email with a specific voter ID and asking for a commitment to vote Trump, with a one click response:
"Every vote matters - especially highly targeted votes in zip code 20872. We are looking for 30 more votes for Donald Trump in your neighborhood and that's why counting your vote before midnight tonight is essential. The stakes have NEVER been higher than they are in 2016.
"Tim, Will you be one of those 30 votes for Donald Trump in 20872?
"Can Donald Trump count on your vote in 20872?"
This getting people to commit to vote was a feature of Obama's 2008 campaign. I understand from a friend who is campaigning for Hillary in NH that Hillary's ground game is even more sophisticated, with multiple personal contacts to build the commitment to vote (regardless of the person's vote preference), then a commitment as to when they will vote, followed up with a call after the time to ask if they have voted and if not, whether they need help getting to the polling station. The concept is that, by targeting postal codes generally sympathetic to the campaign, they don't need to waste time finding out how the person will vote, they just need to get as many as possible from that post code to vote as the more who vote, the more the absolute vote lead they get from that district.
Apocryphally, this is clearly a low enthusiasm election in MD. There are virtually no presidential signs out on lawns. Not even in Bethesda (presumably very strong Hillary country), nor in upstate (strong GOP, probably strong Trump).
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
It would mirror Brexit. Scotland, Northern Ireland In ; England, Wales Out.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
I've always thought that Scotland's best chance of independence was to give the English a vote on it.
You are hoping, but I'm betting he will hold on to this lifeline for all he's worth.
He's been given so many life lines and throws them away. No any other GOP candidate and she would be done for but with him, LOL.
If Trump wins this now, Plato really will have bragging rights.
I think that's fair :-)
My portfolio (as in my work portfolio) would do extremely well in the event of a Trump victory. But that is insufficient to make me root for him.
Making a fortune out of a Trump victory would be pretty cold comfort if he started World War III.
I really don't understand this "starting World War III" nonsense. I'm not a massive fan of the man but he has consistently taken the side of US isolationism and concentrating on internal issues. If anyone starts WW3 i doubt it will be him.
With Hillary on the ther hand you have a neocon war hawk under the influence of the Saudis who will bring even more chaos to the Middle East that could spiral out of control.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
I'd guess that STEM graduates were overwhelming Leavers, while social science and arts types like Stark Boring were Remainers.
Most STEM graduates I know were for REMAIN, although the support was nuanced rather than tribal. The romantic ones were very REMAIN, the richer ones were pro-Remain, the pragmatists were willing to be persuaded either way, and the older ones were more ambiguous.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
I've met a few who seem mildly intelligent, but the majority just seem bent on mindless destruction and getting one over on their betters.
That's unfair. Although many LEAVE voters were stupid, so were many REMAIN voters and many LEAVErs had well-reasoned arguments for their vote (see Richard_Tyndall or rcs1000, for example). My issues with them revolved around the inaccuracy of their beliefs and the unrealism of their predicted outcomes, and/or that I disagreed with their priorities. It's usually a mistake to think your opponents are stupid.
Yes, the problem with some of the brighter Leavers wasn't lack of intelligence but a weird combination of hubris and naivety. They actually thought they were running things. Turns out that none of the big players actually gave a stuff about their 'preferred options', EEA/EFTA and the rest of that alphabet soup. They were always playing with primal forces beyond their control.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
To be fair though, why on earth should English or Welsh supporters of Sindy actually do anything to make it happen? It is not our party.
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
*Please* stop counting the degrees you did simultaneously as separate degrees, it's like people with Master's degrees counting their associated Diplomas as separate qualifications, even though you get the latter automatically when you get the former
That's a bit mean comrade......
It's not an anti-Sunil thing (don't be offended Sunil, it's not agin' you) but it's something one shouldn't do, it's the academic equivalent of double-counting.
Surely, for the sake of the civilised world, Clinton has to withdraw: the risk of handing the presidency to Trump simply through her failings is too great. The uneducated masses were emboldened enough by Brexit; imagine how they'd react if Trump got in. I think there would be some sort of uprising whereby 'elites' and intellectuals were hung from lampposts. The Brexit and Trump phenomenon really is tossing raw meat to the pack.
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
I've met a few who seem mildly intelligent, but the majority just seem bent on mindless destruction and getting one over on their betters.
That's unfair. Although many LEAVE voters were stupid, so were many REMAIN voters and many LEAVErs had well-reasoned arguments for their vote (see Richard_Tyndall or rcs1000, for example). My issues with them revolved around the inaccuracy of their beliefs and the unrealism of their predicted outcomes, and/or that I disagreed with their priorities. It's usually a mistake to think your opponents are stupid.
Yes, the problem with some of the brighter Leavers wasn't lack of intelligence but a weird combination of hubris and naivety. They actually thought they were running things. Turns out that none of the big players actually gave a stuff about their 'preferred options', EEA/EFTA and the rest of that alphabet soup. They were always playing with primal forces beyond their control.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
To be fair though, why on earth should English or Welsh supporters of Sindy actually do anything to make it happen? It is not our party.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
To be fair though, why on earth should English or Welsh supporters of Sindy actually do anything to make it happen? It is not our party.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
No matter what they do with Heathrow I would still rather use Schipol as my hub It is a million times better arranged as an airport
Than T3 and T4, maybe. Not compared with T5 and new T2.
Your comment makes Richard's point for him. T5 and T2 are great, but the difficulty of transferring between terminals severely limits Heathrow's usefulness as a hub.
Not really since codeshare flights work on the basis of being in the same terminal. Terminal 2 is the defacto Star Alliance terminal and T5 is BA/One World.
Flew to Torinto BA from T5, where I parked my car. Flew back yesterday from Vancouver into T3. Took close to an hour to get between the two. Very, very annoying.
An hour? From reaching the T3 arrivals hall? Was HEX not working? It shouldn't take more than 25 minutes even if you just miss a train.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
To be fair though, why on earth should English or Welsh supporters of Sindy actually do anything to make it happen? It is not our party.
If only their masterly inactivity also included abstaining from sour, ill informed commentaries on the subject.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Can only be good news, the racism is spreading beyond foreigners , poles etc , good news that Scotland is back in same category. Will serve to harden opinion up here on getting out of the carcrash xenophobic UK crapwagon.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
Yes it's quite simple actually. Even a Scottish-only indyref is technically not legally binding in itself, the point is it would be used to force Westminster to pass an Act of Parliament formally renouncing sovereignty. As legally any secession must go through Westminster then it is perfectly possible for the consultative referendum to be passed by Westminster and cover the entire UK.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Been at the tinnies already?
Only an uneducated buffoon would come up with such a dullards response. I have not indeed had a drop and lowlifes like yourself should not imagine your betters are like you. Crawl back under your rock.
Completely O/T...but something I've meant to post out, but looking at this photo...
I have to say that Theresa May is extremely photogenic. She's a very stylish women. Cameron always looked a bit of a spiv, but May is possibly the best dressed political leader I can think of.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
I've always thought that Scotland's best chance of independence was to give the English a vote on it.
There was a poll before 2014 that found this view in the English.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Been at the tinnies already?
Only an uneducated buffoon would come up with such a dullards response. I have not indeed had a drop and lowlifes like yourself should not imagine your betters are like you. Crawl back under your rock.
A Trump presidency would certainly delight the Brexit/51st-State faction. Presumably, once Britain is subsumed, Trump would install Farage as a kind of viceroy.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
I think that there is a level of anti-English hostility within some of the SNP ranks which would be actionable if expressed about almost any other groups. It is one of the saddest features of nationalism out of control.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
Yes it's quite simple actually. Even a Scottish-only indyref is technically not legally binding in itself, the point is it would be used to force Westminster to pass an Act of Parliament formally renouncing sovereignty. As legally any seccession must go through Westminster then it is perfectly possible for the consulatative referendum to be passed by Westminster and cover the entire UK.
I'm guessing the bit of the UK constitution that states that the FM of one of the devolved regions of the UK can require Westminster to pass a UK wide referendum is definitely one of the unwritten bits.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
Yes it's quite simple actually. Even a Scottish-only indyref is technically not legally binding in itself, the point is it would be used to force Westminster to pass an Act of Parliament formally renouncing sovereignty. As legally any seccession must go through Westminster then it is perfectly possible for the consulatative referendum to be passed by Westminster and cover the entire UK.
I'm guessing the bit of the UK constitution that states that the FM of one of the devolved regions of the UK can require Westminster to pass a UK wide referendum is definitely one of the unwritten bits.
Where there's a will there's a way, i'm sure it could be negotiated. Fundamentally there is no legal reason a UK-wide referendum couldn't happen.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Been at the tinnies already?
Only an uneducated buffoon would come up with such a dullards response. I have not indeed had a drop and lowlifes like yourself should not imagine your betters are like you. Crawl back under your rock.
Comrade....do not take the bait. Your reply was funny...a bit Irvine Welsh without the profanity. It's a given that the Scots are intellectually superior to their southern cousins.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
Yes it's quite simple actually. Even a Scottish-only indyref is technically not legally binding in itself, the point is it would be used to force Westminster to pass an Act of Parliament formally renouncing sovereignty. As legally any seccession must go through Westminster then it is perfectly possible for the consulatative referendum to be passed by Westminster and cover the entire UK.
I'm guessing the bit of the UK constitution that states that the FM of one of the devolved regions of the UK can require Westminster to pass a UK wide referendum is definitely one of the unwritten bits.
Some of the stuff "The National" is putting out now is borderline as it is, The Mail etc would be proud.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Problem si we hav eto get foreigners in to do it as we are crap and have no cash, so foreign funding and foreign built.
Been at the tinnies already?
Only an uneducated buffoon would come up with such a dullards response. I have not indeed had a drop and lowlifes like yourself should not imagine your betters are like you. Crawl back under your rock.
Comrade....do not take the bait. Your reply was funny...a bit Irvine Welsh without the profanity. It's a given that the Scots are intellectually superior to their southern cousins.
It's equivalent to, say, Reading, Horsham or Newbury in terms of prosperity and it's a good commute to London: about 30 mins to Paddington if memory serves, tho' Sunil will be able to advise better than I.
It's equivalent to, say, Reading, Horsham or Newbury in terms of prosperity and it's a good commute to London: about 30 mins to Paddington if memory serves, tho' Sunil will be able to advise better than I.
Trump, so horrible that even PB righties have to constantly add provisos and qualifications.
Trump's past friendship with that loathsome Nationalist slob Salmond is a black mark, for sure.
Speaking of SNP, I am getting a growing level of resentment from English people to Sturgeon. Yesterday a gay 40 year old leftie friend described her as "that awful krankie woman". I was a bit taken aback but it may be that the SNP really want to upset english people so much that they want rid of the Scots?
Quality anecdotage. The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
Yes, I take that on the chin. But I also am a long term supporter of Sindie just to get the rabid socialists in Scotland to wake up to the economic reality of life.
If I had a pound for every southern, reactionary computer chair potato who has said that they're a 'supporter' of Scottish independence, I'd have a handy 3 figure sum. If I also had a pound for every one of those chaps who had actually lifted even one (no doubt ample) buttock to help it happen, I'd have precisely the same 3 figure sum.
All that needs to happen is for Sturgeon to call for a UK-wide vote and you'll get your freedom.
Great! If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
Yes it's quite simple actually. Even a Scottish-only indyref is technically not legally binding in itself, the point is it would be used to force Westminster to pass an Act of Parliament formally renouncing sovereignty. As legally any seccession must go through Westminster then it is perfectly possible for the consulatative referendum to be passed by Westminster and cover the entire UK.
I'm guessing the bit of the UK constitution that states that the FM of one of the devolved regions of the UK can require Westminster to pass a UK wide referendum is definitely one of the unwritten bits.
Some of the stuff "The National" is putting out now is borderline as it is, The Mail etc would be proud.
I'm sure that would be a scintillating point, if it was responding to the correct post.
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
An international transit passenger spends next to bugger all in the UK, maybe the price of a cup of coffee. It is true that someone has to be employed to shift their bags between aeroplanes and that by operating as a hub there maybe more destinations available from the airport than otherwise would be the case, that is to say more flights and more landing fees. However does that justify the full costs of expanding Heathrow?
Why not let Schipol become the hub? It is becoming the de facto hub now and by the time Heathrow 3 has been built will have embedded itself in that position. Does it make sense at this point in time to try and compete, especially when there will be no return on investment just added costs (the the airlines, the exchequer and to the wider economy) for decades to come.
What happened to 'Great' Britain? Where did our ambition go, our drive not just to be the best in the world, but to lead the world forwards?
Whether it's Heathrow R3, HS2, broadband, or a whole smorgasbord of issues, some people seem to count the pennies more than the opportunities. Dragging the country backwards because of the risk of moving forwards.
Let's just do it.
Comrade....do not take the bait. Your reply was funny...a bit Irvine Welsh without the profanity. It's a given that the Scots are intellectually superior to their southern cousins.
Surely shrink under your rock should be your hanging ego...?
What they should be doing is expanding regional airports and having direct travel from somewhere other than London.
That's a good idea, in theory. Provided that the airlines want it, of course.
Airlines love hub and spoke
Exactly. And the airlines haven't shown any signs of wanting a UK hub anywhere except London (just looking at the destination lists for the various regional airlines demonstrates this).
With the delays through the coalition, Brown's government and Blair's government, for much of the country the "UK hub" has by default become Amsterdam, as various PBers have noted from their personal experiences.
No matter what they do with Heathrow I would still rather use Schipol as my hub It is a million times better arranged as an airport
Than T3 and T4, maybe. Not compared with T5 and new T2.
Your comment makes Richard's point for him. T5 and T2 are great, but the difficulty of transferring between terminals severely limits Heathrow's usefulness as a hub.
Not really since codeshare flights work on the basis of being in the same terminal. Terminal 2 is the defacto Star Alliance terminal and T5 is BA/One World.
Flew to Torinto BA from T5, where I parked my car. Flew back yesterday from Vancouver into T3. Took close to an hour to get between the two. Very, very annoying.
An hour? From reaching the T3 arrivals hall? Was HEX not working? It shouldn't take more than 25 minutes even if you just miss a train.
The passport reading machines brokedown, then the trains played up.
OK, so not to get between terminals. Thanks for clearing that up.
Wow, you caught me out! Ha, ha. And there was me thinking travelling between T3 and T5 was travelling between them!
The time from stepping off the plane to reaching the arrivals hall cannot sensibly be described as "travelling between terminals".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0T1Rb_Q8cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Ntw2asHfU
I watched an Assange intv a few days ago - and he strongly implied Podesta's emails had been leaked to them, not hacked. Given Podesta's email password was passw0rd or something very similar - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to crack it. FFS he emailed it around.
A couple of weeks ago, another Anonymous bod posted his whole Apple and email account. When you're so casual with security - WTF do you expect?
You can't save people from their own stupidity. And Huma emailed herself to a Yahoo account. Doh.
He has said he would be willing to use nukes as a response to an non-nuclear attack by ISIS. He's fine with East Asian nuclear proliferation, with Saudi getting getting nukes.
(It is however perfectly possible she was merely bragging in order to look and sound tough. Equally, someone who says when asked how she would deal with problems in the ME that she would 'wipe Iran off the map' merely to look tough is not somebody who should be allowed near the top of politics anyway. That goes for Trump as well.)
Clinton Mid-Spread: 304.5 (-24.5)
Trump: 231.5 (+24.5)
N.B. At the same time their spread margin has increased by a whopping 50% from 10 ECVs to 15. That's what i meant about them being Frit!
Meanwhile the latest forecast from 538.com shows a much smaller movement since yesterday:
Clinton 324 (-4)
Trump 213 (+4)
Spreadex remains closed ...... no surprise there then.
If you believe Nate Silver's numbers over those of Sporting's then there's money to be made, but the greatest care is required - it's easy to lose a lot of money on the spreads!
Why do you presume Leave voters are uneducated?
The 'a bit taken aback' is especially good.
I view Trump as trigger happy. A lousy choice , which is why someone else would be welcome than these awful pair.
https://youtu.be/GN_FOCF3vIQ
The #DraftYourDaughters meme got huge traction for a reason.
(* Diploma of Imperial College, NOT Drunk in Charge!)
Doesn't really matter that the latest email "scandal" is not Clinton herself but an aide, there will be some damage as the whole saga gets re-aired.
Russian hackers are better than we thought. They stole Clinton's emails from the NSA, put them on Huma's laptop, and pinned it on Weiner.
F1: P3 kicks off in twenty minutes.
"Every vote matters - especially highly targeted votes in zip code 20872. We are looking for 30 more votes for Donald Trump in your neighborhood and that's why counting your vote before midnight tonight is essential. The stakes have NEVER been higher than they are in 2016.
"Tim, Will you be one of those 30 votes for Donald Trump in 20872?
"Can Donald Trump count on your vote in 20872?"
This getting people to commit to vote was a feature of Obama's 2008 campaign. I understand from a friend who is campaigning for Hillary in NH that Hillary's ground game is even more sophisticated, with multiple personal contacts to build the commitment to vote (regardless of the person's vote preference), then a commitment as to when they will vote, followed up with a call after the time to ask if they have voted and if not, whether they need help getting to the polling station. The concept is that, by targeting postal codes generally sympathetic to the campaign, they don't need to waste time finding out how the person will vote, they just need to get as many as possible from that post code to vote as the more who vote, the more the absolute vote lead they get from that district.
Apocryphally, this is clearly a low enthusiasm election in MD. There are virtually no presidential signs out on lawns. Not even in Bethesda (presumably very strong Hillary country), nor in upstate (strong GOP, probably strong Trump).
If you could provide an explanation of the constitutional mechanism necessary to make this happen, that would be excellent.
http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_51/1340906/kerry-putin-ejo-121515_e1e015f96f5af064d6b8199a5b51cf12.nbcnews-ux-2880-1000.jpg
Utah Poll Average: @realDonaldTrump leads with 31%, with @Evan_McMullin and @HillaryClinton in second with 25.2%. https://t.co/k65D0tZOpK
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Fraudbook: Top Facebook Democrat funding "Republicans for Clinton" https://t.co/vw3XcDA1Lg https://t.co/Y4whjzLW4F
I have to say that Theresa May is extremely photogenic. She's a very stylish women. Cameron always looked a bit of a spiv, but May is possibly the best dressed political leader I can think of.
Luntz: Last Time Clinton's Email Woes Were This Bad, She Lost 22 States to Bernie Sanders https://t.co/EQWHcUJlbJ
Joe Biden's reaction to the latest Clinton email scandal:
"O God, Anthony Weiner. Um, I should not comment on Anthony Weiner. I am not a big fan".
https://twitter.com/kerpen/status/792359883744174080
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37788717
I feel it utterly misses the point, and doesn't even acknowledge the concerns people have about globalisation in a social as well as economic sense.
It's a sermon for the converted.
Edited extra bit: F1: P3 underway.
Comrade....do not take the bait.
Your reply was funny...a bit Irvine Welsh without the profanity. It's a given that the Scots are intellectually superior to their southern cousins.
Better than ME!!!!!
39815 Other
98055 Dems
62943 Reps
In total there's 1.4 million registered voters so that's 13% of the state voted.
As ever, names and distrcit of voters available on gov website http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/election/Pages/EV_TurnoutData.aspx
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