Time for the weekly update of the average daily tracking polls:
Hillary 47 nc Trump 42 nc
Trump has been rising everyday since Oct.11th today is his best since Oct.5th, Hillary has been stable at or just bellow 47% since Sept. 26th.
In fact with the exception of the Aug.25th-Sept.25th period Hillary has been at 47% since the Conventions, remarkably stable. While Trump's rollercoaster goes up and down wildly.
All the weekly updates since the first one just after the conventions:
Hardly a rollercoaster for Trump. In fact both candidates look fairly locked in at a ~4pt race (on those figures)
Oh it is a rollercoaster compared to Hillary.
Hillary rarely records any shifts larger than 0.2% in any given day. Trump rarely records shifts less than 0.2% in any given day.
Or to put it in a longer view. Trump had one movement down from 44.5 to 40.5, then one up to 42.5, then another one to 44.5, then one down to 43, then a small one up to 43.5, down to 41.5 and up to 42.5.
Hillary had one movement up from 45 to 47, one from 47 to 44.5 and then from 44.5 to 47.
Trump's support is twice as unstable as Hillary's, and prone to go up and down like a yo-yo.
FFS. Some of them are clearly in their 20s. Even early 30s.
I inagine most Brits had an image of vulnerable 8 year olds. I know I did.
At least they've all had a shave so they look a bit younger.
BTW, Am I the only PBer who has never seen any of the Godfather films?
I haven't either. And I have no intention of watching them either.
You are missing out. I resisted them for years, expecting like most fanboy cult films they would be hugely disappointing in the flesh. They weren't. They are beautifully made pictures, underpinned by brilliant character development and wonderful storytelling.
See also Once Upon a Time in America.
Okay, I might just do that when I get enough time without the little 'un (I'm currently having to watch episode after episode of Mr Tumble, which is surely a severe punishment).
Believe it or not, when your kids get to 10 years old, like mine, you will start to look back at Mr Tumble quite fondly. And wistfully.
You mean it gets worse? (shudder)
A few years back, before the little 'un came along, I met a female friend who seemed really happy. She said she had just had the first day without watching any CBeebies in seven years, as her youngest son had just migrated on to CBBC.
I now know how she feels.
Still, as an antidote for all the TV I took him to the library for an hour this morning, picked a random book, and read him some.
No, you will look back fondly and wistfully because that was when your kids were still adorable and young - and you were also younger. The best years are about 4-9.... When they are entirely without self-awareness, but also inquiring and curious and eager.
From 10 on the first hints of teenagerness kick in. But they're still great, of course.
My youngest is now at college, with the 2 eldest both at Uni. The Mrs and me had our first child free holiday abroad this year in nearly 20 years. We didn't know what to do with all the free time.
Michelle Obama will campaign for Hillary Clinton in Arizona soon, a top Democrat tells @jeffzeleny.
I have to say, that Michelle Obama is bloody amazing. Fancy having her in your back drawer if you need it. Even Plato's endless, obsessional trawling of the murky internet would struggle to come up with anything about the first Lady.
There is some awful made up shit on the right wing conspiracy sites about her.
No doubt in the great American Democratic party meritocracy she will be the candidate in 8 years time.
Well in America 8 years seems the appropriate gap.
8 years between the Bushes
24 years between the Adams
24 years for the Clintons (or is it 20?)
Assuming Hillary wins, it will be sixteen years, I'm taking the end of Bill's Presidency to the beginning of Hillary's
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
Surely that's the old fashioned meaning of "video link", as in there's a room next door with a TV and more seats as an overflow for the expected attendance?
As opposed to a live TV broadcast or live stream for general consumption.
Transcripts are available via the Judiciary website:
P2016 UT (Rasmussen): Trump 30%, McMullin 29%, Clinton: 28%, Johnson 5%, Stein 1%
Wow, a proper 3-way marginal. Anyone know when was the last time a third party actually won a State?
1968 George Wallace (5 states I think)
In those days, the South was a Democratic bastion. Thus handing the presidency to Nixon. Then Nixon trounced McGovern in 1972. Carter and Clinton did get the South back because they were from the South.
Then again, my favourite film is probably Highlander, so I probably don't have *any* taste.
Coud be worse - could be Highlander II
Avast, Cap'n Doc! You probably missed it but someone earlier on made reference to a post on a Wiki web site about London airports. Said post made by someone called Sunil Prasannan in 2006. You can run but you cannot hide.
Surely that's the old fashioned meaning of "video link", as in there's a room next door with a TV and more seats as an overflow for the expected attendance?
As opposed to a live TV broadcast or live stream for general consumption.
Transcripts are available via the Judiciary website:
Mr. Llama, posted this yesterday but had to leave shortly thereafter and didn't see if you saw: did you ever get that e-mail I sent you? I seem to recall you did but upon searching can't see it.
Then again, my favourite film is probably Highlander, so I probably don't have *any* taste.
Coud be worse - could be Highlander II
Avast, Cap'n Doc! You probably missed it but someone earlier on made reference to a post on a Wiki web site about London airports. Said post made by someone called Sunil Prasannan in 2006. You can run but you cannot hide.
Belike, Else
Was it the previous thread, Mr Llama?
I think it might have been about Maplin Sands and the aborted M13 motorway - belike!
Mr. Llama, posted this yesterday but had to leave shortly thereafter and didn't see if you saw: did you ever get that e-mail I sent you? I seem to recall you did but upon searching can't see it.
Yes I did see it, Mr. Dancer, and I thought I had replied. However, quite often these days I think I have done something but haven't (or at least that is what Herself says). Picture number 3 was my bet: more drama, darker, more enticing and had the title at the top not the author's name.
P.S. I have also got those books to send to you, when herself lets me have the car for an hour
Why does the "caring" liberal left do this shit? What's wrong with them?
Left Liberal caring has to be visible.
Millions of carers look after relatives behind closed doors. They never get helped because nobody is there to see it.
I am intrigued that it is the liberal left's fault the Conservative government has allowed some refugees who appear not to be children into the country.
I imagine that this action is the product of the Dubs Amendment, and wishing to give a diplomatic sop to the French. Though FWIW, I don't think it's the Tunbridge Wells Conservative Association that's been bellowing at HM Government to let the entire lot in for years and years and years...
The Labour party is utterly enfeebled and 15% behind in the polls. It can't force the government to do anything it doesn't want to do.
Point conceded. Have been trying to get my head around what the Government thinks it is playing at to be honest, with all these pictures of suspiciously mature-looking "boys" appearing all over the media. Where are all the children? Where are all the girls?
Am I the only one who's thinking this may be aimed at trying deliberately to increase public scepticism about immigration and asylum?
Or the Daily Mail? There may be a fair few photos that weren't taken that could have been.
Nope. The photos are from Getty and they are also in the Metro and elsewhere.
It's mind-boggling.
Fair enough. Some of them do look a touch over 16, to say the least.
FFS. Some of them are clearly in their 20s. Even early 30s.
I inagine most Brits had an image of vulnerable 8 year olds. I know I did.
At least they've all had a shave so they look a bit younger.
BTW, Am I the only PBer who has never seen any of the Godfather films?
I haven't either. And I have no intention of watching them either.
You are missing out. I resisted them for years, expecting like most fanboy cult films they would be hugely disappointing in the flesh. They weren't. They are beautifully made pictures, underpinned by brilliant character development and wonderful storytelling.
See also Once Upon a Time in America.
Okay, I might just do that when I get enough time without the little 'un (I'm currently having to watch episode after episode of Mr Tumble, which is surely a severe punishment).
Believe it or not, when your kids get to 10 years old, like mine, you will start to look back at Mr Tumble quite fondly. And wistfully.
I quite liked the Thomas the Tank Engine series narrated by Ringo Star as did my son. Mind you he did not get Ivor the Engine or Captain Pugwash.
Thomas The Tank Engine you say....who can forget this classic piece.
Classism, sexism, anti-environmentalism bordering on racism:
Then again, my favourite film is probably Highlander, so I probably don't have *any* taste.
Coud be worse - could be Highlander II
Avast, Cap'n Doc! You probably missed it but someone earlier on made reference to a post on a Wiki web site about London airports. Said post made by someone called Sunil Prasannan in 2006. You can run but you cannot hide.
Belike, Else
Was it the previous thread, Mr Llama?
I think it might have been about Maplin Sands and the aborted M13 motorway - belike!
It was indeed, Cap'n Doc. No big deal. I just thought it was amusing that something said ten years ago is still kicking around on the internet.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Then again, my favourite film is probably Highlander, so I probably don't have *any* taste.
Coud be worse - could be Highlander II
Avast, Cap'n Doc! You probably missed it but someone earlier on made reference to a post on a Wiki web site about London airports. Said post made by someone called Sunil Prasannan in 2006. You can run but you cannot hide.
Belike, Else
Was it the previous thread, Mr Llama?
I think it might have been about Maplin Sands and the aborted M13 motorway - belike!
It was indeed, Cap'n Doc. No big deal. I just thought it was amusing that something said ten years ago is still kicking around on the internet.
Else
Even more elusive and mysterious were the M15 and M16
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
It's not a single poll though, all Nevada polls post debate have it as a 2-6% lead for Hillary. Those Nevada polls don't inspire much confidence that Arizona is going to vote Hillary.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Wants to be UKIP leader. Messes up his paperwork. Gets ready to defect to the Tories now he can't be leader. Chance to be leader comes up again! Scraps defection plan. Gets called out on all this by a colleague and takes him outside for a punch up. Ends up in hospital. Still wants to be UKIP leader. Realises the punch up has ruined his chances. Resurrects defection plan!
It's not a single poll though, all Nevada polls post debate have it as a 2-6% lead for Hillary. Those Nevada polls don't inspire much confidence that Arizona is going to vote Hillary.
last time the DEMS outperformed their nevada polls because difficulties in polling spanish speaking hispanics. I imagine the same will happen this time
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Might explain Diane James’ early departure. – But who will now replace Wolfe as favourite?
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Might explain Diane James’ early departure. – But who will now replace Wolfe as favourite?
Michelle Obama will campaign for Hillary Clinton in Arizona soon, a top Democrat tells @jeffzeleny.
I have to say, that Michelle Obama is bloody amazing. Fancy having her in your back drawer if you need it. Even Plato's endless, obsessional trawling of the murky internet would struggle to come up with anything about the first Lady.
Another low point of the Trump campaign is the amount of negativity thrown against Bill. One of the positive features of US democracy is the bi partisan esteem they have always held for their ex-presidents personally. Even Nixon was rehabilitated. Trump has completely demolished that etiquette sadly.
Anyway, it'll all be finished soon , and Plato will have to identify some other cause to champion. Maybe saving badgers.....one can only hope.
In fairness to Donald Trump (words I never thought I would write) we have never had the spouse of a former President running before. And Bill is hardly above politics. He is understandably campaigning hard for his wife.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Might explain Diane James’ early departure. – But who will now replace Wolfe as favourite?
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Might explain Diane James’ early departure. – But who will now replace Wolfe as favourite?
Farage to 'reluctantly' stay on to hold the govt to account through the Leave process? Edit. Damn you @TGOHF, beat me to it.
''Another low point of the Trump campaign is the amount of negativity thrown against Bill.''
Oh come on mate, come on. That cuts both ways. The dems have thrown a mountain of sex sleaze Trump's way, they shouldn;t be surprised when it comes back in spades.
It's not a single poll though, all Nevada polls post debate have it as a 2-6% lead for Hillary. Those Nevada polls don't inspire much confidence that Arizona is going to vote Hillary.
ORC/CNN are 538 adjusted Clinton +2.
Further historically Nevada underpolls on POTUS. The last Arizona poll was Clinton +1. You also do waste waste resources on a lost cause.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
Might explain Diane James’ early departure. – But who will now replace Wolfe as favourite?
''Another low point of the Trump campaign is the amount of negativity thrown against Bill.''
Oh come on mate, come on. That cuts both ways. The dems have thrown a mountain of sex sleaze Trump's way, they shouldn;t be surprised when it comes back in spades.
I think the point is he should be attacking HRC not Bill.
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
Far far better long term strategy that Osborne's - which relied on, err....people remembering Labour were bad at managing money?
Indeed. Yet another problem for Labour.
If the LibDems can capture the younger more educated Remainer-voters then British politics will have been turned upside down.
If we could get back to having the Conservatives and Liberals then I would be delighted, but I'm not exactly convinced that the Lib Dems fit the bill for a credible new Opposition, to put it mildly.
A Tory hegemony, followed by a Tory split, may be required to fill the vacuum properly.
According to Guido, Suzanne Evans will be eligible to stand this time round. Does she have a chance? My feeling is whoever Farage favours will win, and it won't be her.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
He's clearly doing much better in swing states tho, working class white men are not budging.
Trump is doing better in two swing states, than Romney at this stage, - Ohio and Iowa but significantly worse in others - Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Colorado. Others have become swing states - Arizona, Georgia and Utah.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
Yes, the end of UKIP has been on the cards for some time, but it's now it's starting to look like a reality. There were several contributing factors but the loss of their greatest weapon - David Cameron's premiership - finally did for it.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the intere# sting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then.
(pedant mode off)
You assume an earth-bound future for humanity. Con gain Proxima b.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
Feel slightly sorry for Carswell. He's a good smart man. An asset to any party. He's stuck inside a burning house.
Indeed, not many good men left in politics. Can't be long before the Tories take him back.
''Another low point of the Trump campaign is the amount of negativity thrown against Bill.''
Oh come on mate, come on. That cuts both ways. The dems have thrown a mountain of sex sleaze Trump's way, they shouldn;t be surprised when it comes back in spades.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
Feel slightly sorry for Carswell. He's a good smart man. An asset to any party. He's stuck inside a burning house.
Indeed, not many good men left in politics. Can't be long before the Tories take him back.
The big question is whether or not Banks's £££ can create something meaningful come'e the Italian Cinque Stelle?
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
Feel slightly sorry for Carswell. He's a good smart man. An asset to any party. He's stuck inside a burning house.
Indeed, not many good men left in politics. Can't be long before the Tories take him back.
I doubt he will be welcomed back, he's a trouble maker.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
Feel slightly sorry for Carswell. He's a good smart man. An asset to any party. He's stuck inside a burning house.
Indeed, not many good men left in politics. Can't be long before the Tories take him back.
No - I think they Tories will regard him as more trouble than he's worth. I imagine he'll linger on in Clacton for a few more years though, as a kind of UKIP ghost MP.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the intere# sting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then.
(pedant mode off)
You assume an earth-bound future for humanity. Con gain Proxima b.
True enough. Or we might all go to live on Europa.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
We need to start sending out our trade delegations probes now.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
We need to start sending out our trade delegations probes now.
The sooner we project Mr Fox into the stratosphere, the better
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
If the sun has expanded sufficiently to absorb the earth such a policy would be as obvious and as rational as Brexit was!
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
If the sun has expanded sufficiently to absorb the earth such a policy would be as obvious and as rational as Brexit was!
No chance.
We'll probably still be debating Heathrow Runway 3 as the atmosphere boils away. There's no chance we'll have decided the colour of the rockets, yet alone where they'll launch from.
@bbclaurak: Stephen Woolfe is quitting UKIP - tells @AlexForsythBBC, UKIP is in a 'death spiral' and is 'ungovernable' - her interview on @bbcnews at 6
The Tories will now reign until 2086 and the heat death of the sun.
Surely the Sun will expand into a red giant. Long before this, Earth will have been heated to a point where there will be no water. As the Sun expands, it might overtake Earth's orbit, subsuming us. The alternative is that Earth would be pushed out into a further orbit, but would just be a rocky hellhole.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
The Tories will simply vote that we leave the solar system. We don't need these other planets imposing their grand dreams on us and coming over here, taking all our jobs. Our future lies in a new trade deal with Alpha Centurii.
If the sun has expanded sufficiently to absorb the earth such a policy would be as obvious and as rational as Brexit was!
Except that Alpha C is a long way away and for some reason they aren't buying that many of our robot hoovering machines. Their wine is very good, however, even if we can only afford a single bottle at Christmas.
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
Michelle Obama will campaign for Hillary Clinton in Arizona soon, a top Democrat tells @jeffzeleny.
I have to say, that Michelle Obama is bloody amazing. Fancy having her in your back drawer if you need it. Even Plato's endless, obsessional trawling of the murky internet would struggle to come up with anything about the first Lady.
Another low point of the Trump campaign is the amount of negativity thrown against Bill. One of the positive features of US democracy is the bi partisan esteem they have always held for their ex-presidents personally. Even Nixon was rehabilitated. Trump has completely demolished that etiquette sadly.
Anyway, it'll all be finished soon , and Plato will have to identify some other cause to champion. Maybe saving badgers.....one can only hope.
She has some pretty extreme views (assuming she believes what she wrote in her Masters thesis )
Isabel Oakeshott @IsabelOakeshott 15m15 minutes ago I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
No wonder they all went mad at Carswell for returning 300k of Short money!!
Feel slightly sorry for Carswell. He's a good smart man. An asset to any party. He's stuck inside a burning house.
I don't agree. He always seems thick as you like whenever I see him interviewed.
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
Far far better long term strategy that Osborne's - which relied on, err....people remembering Labour were bad at managing money?
Indeed. Yet another problem for Labour.
If the LibDems can capture the younger more educated Remainer-voters then British politics will have been turned upside down.
If we could get back to having the Conservatives and Liberals then I would be delighted, but I'm not exactly convinced that the Lib Dems fit the bill for a credible new Opposition, to put it mildly.
A Tory hegemony, followed by a Tory split, may be required to fill the vacuum properly.
Ah yes, a choice between Tories and Tories. I can't ******** wait.
Well worth a read, about Theresa's long term political strategy. It puts last week's advertisement for paid Tory organisers in a string of northern cities into context.
Interesting read. It looks like an attempt to do Blairism properly. Cameron did it sort of okay, but he really only succeeded in making confirmed Labour supporters less frightened of the Tories and so willing to take a punt on the Greens. Actually aiming for a sizeable currently pissed off demographic is much potentially profitable. It will be interesting to see how it goes.
The grammar school idea was obviously one that comes out of this approach. I have a feeling that one will fall flat because while it has the virtue of making the Tories appear to be supporting the aspirations of working class kids it has the vice of actually doing the opposite. Even the Tories can't stand truth on its head forever. But there are plenty of other policies that would work better available.
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Hillary rarely records any shifts larger than 0.2% in any given day.
Trump rarely records shifts less than 0.2% in any given day.
Or to put it in a longer view.
Trump had one movement down from 44.5 to 40.5, then one up to 42.5, then another one to 44.5, then one down to 43, then a small one up to 43.5, down to 41.5 and up to 42.5.
Hillary had one movement up from 45 to 47, one from 47 to 44.5 and then from 44.5 to 47.
Trump's support is twice as unstable as Hillary's, and prone to go up and down like a yo-yo.
http://www.totalpolitics.com/articles/opinion/james-frayne-theresa-mays-grand-plan-realign-british-politics
https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/publications/santos-and-m-v-secretary-of-state-for-exiting-the-european-union-transcripts/
The racists moved to the Republicans.
NC - Clinton 48 .. Trump 47
NV - Clinton 46 .. Trump 44
OH - Clinton 44 .. Trump 48
http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/10/poll-trump-clinton-battleground-states-229890
Belike, Else
So my average daily tracker is right again.
What was the sentence, oh yes:
Kneel Before Zod ect ect.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-campaign-arizona-strategy-229884
I think it might have been about Maplin Sands and the aborted M13 motorway - belike!
With those numbers I wonder about Florida, if NC is heading to a tie Florida should be heading for a tie as well.
As I said many times Hillary's lead is not that large, she is only leading by 4-5% in the swing states that Trump needs to win to get to 270.
Especially with the evidence we have regarding early voting and ground game differentials.
P.S. I have also got those books to send to you, when herself lets me have the car for an hour
If we are not careful right wing loons will be using Steam and Diese as codewordsl instead of Google and Yahoo.
Still it goes back to the same 4 old states, Colorado, Pennsylvania, N.Hampshire and Wisconsin, Trump needs to win one of them.
If Trump wins Iowa (check), Ohio (check), Nevada, N.Carolina and Florida.
Else
One of the two. Which is the million dollar question.
Far far better long term strategy that Osborne's - which relied on, err....people remembering Labour were bad at managing money?
Anyway, I've got to go do some work.
Those Nevada polls don't inspire much confidence that Arizona is going to vote Hillary.
What a loser?
Clinton 50%
Trump 38%
Johnson 5%
Analysis: Weeeelllllpppp
The Diane James resignation simply delayed the inevitable.
If the LibDems can capture the younger more educated Remainer-voters then British politics will have been turned upside down.
Well, well. That was easy money.
Edit. Damn you @TGOHF, beat me to it.
To misquote Mrs Merton, what was it about being hospitalized after an altercation with a member of your own party led to you quitting UKIP.....
Oh come on mate, come on. That cuts both ways. The dems have thrown a mountain of sex sleaze Trump's way, they shouldn;t be surprised when it comes back in spades.
Further historically Nevada underpolls on POTUS. The last Arizona poll was Clinton +1. You also do waste waste resources on a lost cause.
A Tory hegemony, followed by a Tory split, may be required to fill the vacuum properly.
I understand UKIP is £800k in debt and on brink of financial collapse. Three big donors withdrawing. Party leadership? Who'd want it!
Good from Jon Sopel
He is attacking HRC. If you claim someone is a sex pest facilitator, you first have to establish that someone else is a sex pest.
I find the love for Bill Clinton amongst the Hill-ettes astonishing.
https://twitter.com/LadPolitics/status/786518996082241536
Presently Clinton is +6/7 with a large EC lead. Obama in 12 led by less than 1% 3 weeks out.
Interestingly (to me at least), the solar system's habitable zone will move outwards to the point where some of the interesting moons of Jupiter might be liveable.
After the Sun's red giant phase there will be a nova and a planetary nebula will be formed. The remaining core would become a white dwarf, and then eventually, as it loses heat, it will become a black dwarf.
Therefore the 'heat death' of the Sun will come billions of years after the death, or even destruction, of the Earth. I doubt the Conservative Party will survive until then. I don't expect even the Iron Lady could have resisted an expanding Sun.
(pedant mode off)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/17/ukip-is-ungovernable-i-hoped-to-be-leader---instead-today-i-quit/
If so, would we have a Golgafrincham B-ark?
And Brexit bites wolf.
We'll probably still be debating Heathrow Runway 3 as the atmosphere boils away. There's no chance we'll have decided the colour of the rockets, yet alone where they'll launch from.
'If the LibDems can capture the younger more educated Remainer-voters then British politics will have been turned upside down.'
I would think it would take this group several years to forget the Lib Dem student fees betrayal.
The grammar school idea was obviously one that comes out of this approach. I have a feeling that one will fall flat because while it has the virtue of making the Tories appear to be supporting the aspirations of working class kids it has the vice of actually doing the opposite. Even the Tories can't stand truth on its head forever. But there are plenty of other policies that would work better available.