“Don’t forget, It was Godfather Two that won the Oscar”. That was the cheering thought offered to a bunch of Saving Labour stalwarts who gathered to reflect on their failure to avert Jeremy Corbyn’s second leadership landslide. The unanimous view was that Labour still needs saving from electoral disaster through a change of leader. The Godfather analogy inspires the hope that the next time will be more successful.
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I think 16.5 is too short for Starmer.
You don't even get that in the Grand National
Labour Party sleeps with the fishes....
Is there anye vidence that labour is cutting through to the public at the moment?
I think you'll find The Godfather won the Oscar for Best Pic too (1972).. it makes your analogy suspect.
Anyway, all the speculation about 'who' fails to answer the question 'how'.
Still LOLing at the dimmer Leavers attempting to claim on the earlier thread that £350 million for the NHS was not a Leave campaign pledge.
That non-pledge again:
http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/Boris-Johnson-574738.jpg
LOL.
So a big congratulations to Tyson accompanied by a slap on the back....(albeit many posters here would like to slap me in other places)
It seems ridiculous that Gatwick could only be successful by hamstringing the competition.
As for money and investment, there is always money to invest in projects which can show decent a return. GR2 would be a decent investment (£7bn) but would be dipping into the same well as HR3 so would find it tough going initially. I think once the dust settles they would be able to raise enough money to get it done. Not because there is some specific UK money for UK projects, just because new money is always looking to be invested, especially at a time of ridiculously low yield.
In the end I think both will get the go ahead and both will get investment guarantees from the government. Stansted will be out of luck but get a commitment for the future.
But to the original statement of nothing happening if they all got the go ahead, that's patently false. HR3 will happen as normal, just without being seen to be playing favourites. There is no way that Gatwick could build a court case on the back of stopping Heathrow from expanding because they can't raise the money."
1) R3 would not happen as normal. The project is based on some pretty robust debt financing assumptions, and these assumptions are built on a risk profile (well a "no risk" profile, more like). If runways were awarded to multiple airports, the interest rates for LHR would, in all likelihood, rise. There would be knock-on consequences of that - not that I pretend to know what they would be.
2) Or course LGW could be successful eventually, but any build would be deferred by a decade at least. Who knows what would happen in the intervening period (politically and/or economically).
3) Government guarantee?! You're 'avin' a larf, mate.
https://twitter.com/adambienkov/status/787982688535937024
FWIW, it's not true. The opposition to the 2012 budget was the best of Labour's last five years, and knocked the Conservatives back by about 6-10 points in the polls for at least a year. The Questions About Brexit haven't touched them because it's basically a Westminster story. What it has done is fire up the PLP's mojo a little.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843900/First-migrant-children-arrive-UK-Calais-French-prepare-raze-Jungle-camp-ground.html
http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/guildford-councillor-suspended-over-petition-12036847
What a berk.
A rout would be surpassing Obama's 2008 total.
He always looks like he's about to nut someone.
And as for Nandy, she comes across as a thicker version of Emily Thornberry.
http://order-order.com/2016/10/17/jenny-tonge-rise-anti-semitism-israels-fault/
Not on a Friday before holiday weekend - that's a novelty
Their support doesn't seem to have been impacted by recent events, although the Brexit vote itself saw a 2 or 3% drop.
I guess the none of the above crowd are pretty hard to repel.
BTW, Am I the only PBer who has never seen any of the Godfather films?
Clinton 47 .. Trump 33
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/12/presidential-poll-michigan/91964392/
I'd like to point out that I tipped Richard Burgon at 100/1, he's now 25/1
Next Labour leader Richard Burgon, nailed on.
"The court heard details of how the central complainant in the case had reported her abuse to police on two occasions when she was just 13 years old in 2003 - but no action was ever taken.
"Her family also wrote to then Home Secretary David Blunkett to highlight what they said was happening to her at the hands of a group of Asian males."
"...her clothing seized at the time was lost and no scientific examination ever conducted.
"...the girl made further disclosures to the police in October 2003 about other men involved her alleged abuse - but the case did not proceed after her family were subjected to threats."
Don't watch the third Godfather film, it's like home made porn, you really regret making it and pretend it never happened, and the less it is seen the better.
The real bar is May. Not sure anyone currently in the Labour field is really up to it.
Every since I didn't place that fiver on Corbyn @ 900 on Betfair I am sad.
Since the referendum. I suspect they've taken a 3-4% chunk from Labour oop North and lost 3-4% to the Tories in Midlands and South.
I.E. Making the Tory vote far more efficient.
It is cosy and costs nothing to handwring about Syrial children.
Well they are somebody's child...
Hard to believe that was less than a year and a half ago.
It's more than that. It's a boost to their ego that they're better than the rest of us.
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Perhaps Hitler was just 'tough on anti-Semitism, tough on the causes of anti-Semitism'? Can the historian Ken Livingstone advise?
We drove through services near Luton on the M1 yesterday on the way back from Birmingham, there were a group of, err rowdy Asians stopping all the cars for some reason. Such a shithole.
Left Liberal caring has to be visible.
Millions of carers look after relatives behind closed doors. They never get helped because nobody is there to see it.
Boom tish
Some days I shouldn't even bother to take off my coat
Robert La Follette had 13 in 1924, Strom Thurmond had 39 in 1948, George Wallace had 46 in 1968 and John Hospers won one in 1972, albeit from a faithless elector.
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I know all the post war oscar winners by year...I sometimes go through them all to ward off dementia. 1963....Tom Jones; 1985....Out of Africa; 1958....Marty; just testing myself.
That and I can down a pint in 2 seconds, not to ward off dementia, just as a party piece.
So, Don Brind's film analysis is as wrong as his Labour leader neck and neck predictions