Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
He's right though, whether he is 'liberal elite' or not.
The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
*runs and hides*
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
I would love to to long distance walking but I have a digestive system that has to empty itself with little warning 3 or 4 times a daym usually about half a mile just after you set out from the B&B after breakfast which isn't very compatible with long distance walking alas.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
*runs and hides*
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
B&Bs in Kent don't have bathrooms? Or you weren't in the right place on the designated bath night? In which decade (century?) was this?
Different walks. I can do trails in relative luxury where transport and accommodation is easy, as it was on the North Downs. Other trails (e.g. Cleveland Way) I cannot, so I camp. Washing is much harder then.
Either that or I'm allergic to soap.
One woman was walking the coast and entered Aberdeen one morning. It was the first big town/city she had seen in months since Fort William. People, often dressed in suits, stared at her open-mouthed as she passed. She had no idea why.
Until one kind soul reminded her that her pants and bras were hanging off the side and back of her pack to dry.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank. snip
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
I'm a life long atheist, but have many Evangelical friends - they're really good people even if I don't get their faith. It's really impressed me.
I detest the Left's desire to tear it down because somehow The State should replace it.
Socialism and humanism are basically a Christian heresy, hence its intolerance of Christianity.
The difference is that Christanity sees charity and assisting the poor as a means to a end - the end being successful transfer to heaven in the next world.
Socialiam and Humanism try to create a utopian heaven here and try to abolish all suffering in this world because they dont believe in the next and end up creating more misery than ever.
I'm keen on Christian culture - just never expected or wanted to be God World. I've a visceral dislike of it all - and did as a 6yrs old when told 'hands together eyes closed'
But I respect those who believe and my friends are very generous and their faith buoys them up
Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
Grammar school boy doesn't want today's kids to have the same opportunities he had.
Hypocrtical Tosser.
What type of school do you think he should have chosen in 1957? And what's hypocritical about believing that a system you went through was bad overall?
The security protocol statement was the one that really stuck out to be honest.
Anyone in a job even with a relatively small company is aware of the security protocols of their company and are normally introduced to this on their first day. Just can't believe that a First Lady, and subsequent Secretary of State did not know what security protocols were. Never really made sense.
IF (big IF) the quotes there are directly contradicted by the testimony she gave to the FBI, then this might actually be getting somewhere. But unless the FBI actually arrest her for perjury it'll probably go nowhere.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
Most of us are in Britain. We don't have a vote so there is no point in posting campaign rhetoric. It's not us who Trump needs to persuade. We can and do bet on the outcome, so analysis or reasons the polls might be wrong is of greater interest.
Perhaps a checklist, real or imagined, would help. Is the material new or old? Is it from a credible source or from one of the satirical sites? Has it been picked up by mainstream news outlets? Does it pass the smell test or is it tin foil hat time, like the pneumonia-ridden body double with the wrong-shaped ear lobes? Is it even about Hillary or is it an attack on Bill, Obama or someone else who is not actually standing?
In the past, you have rightly criticised those who attacked Cameron or Boris for being posh. It is irrelevant and in any case, priced in. Many of the Trump camp's attacks on Hillary fall into the same class. Everyone knows she is the ultimate political insider. Of course she wants to appoint liberal justices to the supreme court, and has taken money from Wall Street. Even the email server falls into this general category of baggage that everyone knows about so it is not going to swing the election and we need not change our bets.
And tell us why we should care. Like others, I've spent a lot of time reading through your links without really knowing what I am looking for, since you've not summarised it. After a while, I give up. I doubt I'm alone in that.
The security protocol statement was the one that really stuck out to be honest.
Anyone in a job even with a relatively small company is aware of the security protocols of their company and are normally introduced to this on their first day. Just can't believe that a First Lady, and subsequent Secretary of State did not know what security protocols were. Never really made sense.
Quite, it's absurd - but a line followed by some. Beyond nitwit.
IF (big IF) the quotes there are directly contradicted by the testimony she gave to the FBI, then this might actually be getting somewhere. But unless the FBI actually arrest her for perjury it'll probably go nowhere.
TBH The FBI gave her a pass. That agents are WTFing doesn't matter - it's rubbished their reputation.
This election has destroyed MSM and FBI trust - they don't care - it's about getting Hillary elected.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
Most of us are in Britain. We don't have a vote so there is no point in posting campaign rhetoric. It's not us who Trump needs to persuade. We can and do bet on the outcome, so analysis or reasons the polls might be wrong is of greater interest.
Perhaps a checklist, real or imagined, would help. Is the material new or old? Is it from a credible source or from one of the satirical sites? Has it been picked up by mainstream news outlets? Does it pass the smell test or is it tin foil hat time, like the pneumonia-ridden body double with the wrong-shaped ear lobes? Is it even about Hillary or is it an attack on Bill, Obama or someone else who is not actually standing?
In the past, you have rightly criticised those who attacked Cameron or Boris for being posh. It is irrelevant and in any case, priced in. Many of the Trump camp's attacks on Hillary fall into the same class. Everyone knows she is the ultimate political insider. Of course she wants to appoint liberal justices to the supreme court, and has taken money from Wall Street. Even the email server falls into this general category of baggage that everyone knows about so it is not going to swing the election and we need not change our bets.
And tell us why we should care. Like others, I've spent a lot of time reading through your links without really knowing what I am looking for, since you've not summarised it. After a while, I give up. I doubt I'm alone in that.
Seriously? I have to not only watch it all, post the popular stuff - but provide a digest for free for the too lazy?
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Even to the extent of trying to talk down and do down the economy.
High time the government interned the worst of them in the isle of man.
Somewhere that isnt in the EU, is a bit fussy who it lets live there but is still in the single market and dosent have a border with the UK......
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Did the Referendum result cause you harm and/or distress?
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Because those who lost the referendum won't accept the democratic decision of the people and the losers would prefer to be proved right rather than have a successful GB outside the EU.
Dont' feed the trolls.
Wait until you see my morning thread.
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
Popcorn required?
Get a needle and thread ready to stitch up your sides as the most deluded thread yet hits the site.
Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
He's right though, whether he is 'liberal elite' or not.
The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
Why do you imply that basic standards of reading and writing have improved since grammar schools were mostly abolished when you must know that isn't true?
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
Most of us are in Britain. We don't have a vote so there is no point in posting campaign rhetoric. It's not us who Trump needs to persuade. We can and do bet on the outcome, so analysis or reasons the polls might be wrong is of greater interest.
Perhaps a checklist, real or imagined, would help. Is the material new or old? Is it from a credible source or from one of the satirical sites? Has it been picked up by mainstream news outlets? Does it pass the smell test or is it tin foil hat time, like the pneumonia-ridden body double with the wrong-shaped ear lobes? Is it even about Hillary or is it an attack on Bill, Obama or someone else who is not actually standing?
In the past, you have rightly criticised those who attacked Cameron or Boris for being posh. It is irrelevant and in any case, priced in. Many of the Trump camp's attacks on Hillary fall into the same class. Everyone knows she is the ultimate political insider. Of course she wants to appoint liberal justices to the supreme court, and has taken money from Wall Street. Even the email server falls into this general category of baggage that everyone knows about so it is not going to swing the election and we need not change our bets.
And tell us why we should care. Like others, I've spent a lot of time reading through your links without really knowing what I am looking for, since you've not summarised it. After a while, I give up. I doubt I'm alone in that.
Seriously? I have to not only watch it all, post the popular stuff - but provide a digest for free for the too lazy?
No.
Is that no because you've not actually read half the links you've copied and pasted from Trump-aligned twitter feeds?
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
The security protocol statement was the one that really stuck out to be honest.
Anyone in a job even with a relatively small company is aware of the security protocols of their company and are normally introduced to this on their first day. Just can't believe that a First Lady, and subsequent Secretary of State did not know what security protocols were. Never really made sense.
Indeed a Yale educated lawyer who has been in politics 40 odd years, who worked on the Watergate investigation, wife of a Governor for over a decade, First Lady for eight years, Senator for eight years, Secretary of State for four years. Whatever anyone thinks of Clinton's politics she is a highly intelligent and well educated woman who has been in public service one way or another virtually her whole adult life. Her explanations are implausible.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
I wasn't a content member when IDS was leader, but I stayed on helped in my little way to turn us in an election winning party again.
You must be French is you surrender when they going gets tough. Me I'm from Yorkshire, we fight on, we win, just like Rome during the Second Punic War.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
If TSE got any more contrarian he'd be Peter Hitchens.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
I wasn't a content member when IDS was leader, but I stayed on helped in my little way to turn us in an election winning party again.
You must be French is you surrender when they going gets tough. Me I'm from Yorkshire, we fight on, we win, just like Rome during the Second Punic War.
Yorkshire?
Didn't the City of Sheffield vote for Brexit? Didn't Yorkshire & the Humber vote for Brexit?
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
snip
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
Most of us are in Britain. We don't have a vote so there is no point in posting campaign rhetoric. It's not us who Trump needs to persuade. We can and do bet on the outcome, so analysis or reasons the polls might be wrong is of greater interest.
Perhaps a checklist, real or imagined, would help. Is the material new or old? Is it from a credible source or from one of the satirical sites? Has it been picked up by mainstream news outlets? Does it pass the smell test or is it tin foil hat time, like the pneumonia-ridden body double with the wrong-shaped ear lobes? Is it even about Hillary or is it an attack on Bill, Obama or someone else who is not actually standing?
In the past, you have rightly criticised those who attacked Cameron or Boris for being posh. It is irrelevant and in any case, priced in. Many of the Trump camp's attacks on Hillary fall into the same class. Everyone knows she is the ultimate political insider. Of course she wants to appoint liberal justices to the supreme court, and has taken money from Wall Street. Even the email server falls into this general category of baggage that everyone knows about so it is not going to swing the election and we need not change our bets.
And tell us why we should care. Like others, I've spent a lot of time reading through your links without really knowing what I am looking for, since you've not summarised it. After a while, I give up. I doubt I'm alone in that.
Seriously? I have to not only watch it all, post the popular stuff - but provide a digest for free for the too lazy?
No.
Is that no because you've not actually read half the links you've copied and pasted from Trump-aligned twitter feeds?
Oh, so I don't read it, but can summarise it in a sentence or two? Well that's a shallow argument given what I've already said, just stop.
If you want to have a head to head spat that'll bore everyone else to death on US activist politics - feel free.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
I wasn't a content member when IDS was leader, but I stayed on helped in my little way to turn us in an election winning party again.
You must be French is you surrender when they going gets tough. Me I'm from Yorkshire, we fight on, we win, just like Rome during the Second Punic War.
The second Punic war....Hmmm yes which resulted in the genocide of the Carthaginians.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
I wasn't a content member when IDS was leader, but I stayed on helped in my little way to turn us in an election winning party again.
You must be French is you surrender when they going gets tough. Me I'm from Yorkshire, we fight on, we win, just like Rome during the Second Punic War.
Eh surrender?
nah, Ive never been a member but after voting Tory since 2001 and giving Dave the benefit of the doubt in 2010 on the grounds that Brown had to go; I went over to voting UKIP after osbornes Child Benefit wheeze in autumn 2010. Set to vote Tory again now that sanity has returned under May.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
Sunil, don't do that to me (-; what then is RINO ?
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
An acronym which does not belong in British politics.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
Sunil, don't do that to me (-; what then is RINO ?
oh I dont know. Im sure Martin McGuinness regularly gets called that by the real sinn fein types.
Not that TSE is in any way similar to Martin McGuiness of course.
BOOOOM!!!!! #HillaryBecause Hillary Clinton Camp & @GloriaAllred & DNC Conspired Hoax Grope on Donald Trump read whole 2 emails below!!! https://t.co/Y9cSeJgxwD
In what way does this say the DNC and Gloria Allred conspired to hoax the groping incident?
The US election is beyond anything that can be called sane. It is all very sad and I am simply past caring as Clinton is going to walk it. Mind you what follows who know
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
Sunil, don't do that to me (-; what then is RINO ?
oh I dont know. Im sure Martin McGuinness regularly gets called that by the real sinn fein types.
Not that TSE is in any way similar to Martin McGuiness of course.
OK I am being thick I guess Real in name only.....
McGuiness was Real in his early years until he was beaten up. And was a walk in. Then it changed. Adams was real until his brother was discovered as a Paedo...
Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
He's right though, whether he is 'liberal elite' or not.
The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
Why do you imply that basic standards of reading and writing have improved since grammar schools were mostly abolished when you must know that isn't true?
I don't mean to imply that: the standards have remained stubbornly low - I don't have the figures to hand, but I think since the 1950s; i.e. before the abolition of grammar schools. Decades of utter failure.
As such, you have a point. But the reverse does not apply, and the evidence, as linked on here in the past, shows that areas that have grammar schools do not help those who most need it.
Grammar schools will, by their very nature, suck up resources that would best be spent on the 20%.
Having said all that, I'm unsure how much money you can throw to help many of that 20%. Parenting is a massively important factor. But concentrating on the top end does nothing for them.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
Sunil, don't do that to me (-; what then is RINO ?
oh I dont know. Im sure Martin McGuinness regularly gets called that by the real sinn fein types.
Not that TSE is in any way similar to Martin McGuiness of course.
OK I am being thick I guess Real in name only.....
McGuiness was Real in his early years until he was beaten up. And was a walk in. Then it changed. Adams was real until his brother was discovered as a Paedo...
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
*runs and hides*
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
I would love to to long distance walking but I have a digestive system that has to empty itself with little warning 3 or 4 times a daym usually about half a mile just after you set out from the B&B after breakfast which isn't very compatible with long distance walking alas.
TSE claiming to be soon celebrating 20 years as a member of the Tory party whilst doing all he can to undermine a Tory PM.
Perhaps he's learnt something from the eurosceptics after watching them over the last 20 years.
Exactly, eurosceptics whined, misrepresented and generally poisoned the well for 40 years but now expect pro-europeans to immediately accept their total and absolute victory of 52-48.
Well they can ram it, Holding charlatans to account is the order of the day.
Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
He's right though, whether he is 'liberal elite' or not.
The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
Why do you imply that basic standards of reading and writing have improved since grammar schools were mostly abolished when you must know that isn't true?
I don't mean to imply that: the standards have remained stubbornly low - I don't have the figures to hand, but I think since the 1950s; i.e. before the abolition of grammar schools. Decades of utter failure.
As such, you have a point. But the reverse does not apply, and the evidence, as linked on here in the past, shows that areas that have grammar schools do not help those who most need it.
Grammar schools will, by their very nature, suck up resources that would best be spent on the 20%.
Having said all that, I'm unsure how much money you can throw to help many of that 20%. Parenting is a massively important factor. But concentrating on the top end does nothing for them.
Just as we shouldn't use voodoo polls here, perhaps we shouldn't refer to the rubbish partial datasets relating to the few grammar schools that exist.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
This cannot be right, when I was on holiday in Majorca, I was being told that we would hardly notice. now its . 5 p on diesel, 5 p on my heating oil, and now all prices are going to rise across the board... wAit till you buy a G and T on holiday and splutter at the cost.
TSE, for heaven sake, go and join the libdems, you know you want to and I'm sure Cleggie could do with someone to help him leaflet Sheffield in 2020.
I guess the most intelligent thing to ever come out of you left a brown stain in the toilet bowl didn't it?
Ooh, a raw nerve.
Not a raw nerve, just amused at your stupidity.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
It wasn't me who posted earlier to the effect that every time Theresa May opened her mouth Jeremy Corbyn got more popular.
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
Easiest way to troll TSE is to call him a TINO
Excuse my ignorance what is a TINO
Tory in name only (a play on "RINO").
Sunil, don't do that to me (-; what then is RINO ?
oh I dont know. Im sure Martin McGuinness regularly gets called that by the real sinn fein types.
Not that TSE is in any way similar to Martin McGuiness of course.
OK I am being thick I guess Real in name only.....
McGuiness was Real in his early years until he was beaten up. And was a walk in. Then it changed. Adams was real until his brother was discovered as a Paedo...
Republican in name only
Never heard that before, thank you for educating me.
Just out of interest, do you feel it's really a vital distinction between Trump actually having forcibly kissed women and grabbed at their genitals, and Trump having falsely boasted that he made a habit of forcibly kissing women and grabbed at their genitals?
I mean, do you think if he was only a fantasist who made up a lot of lies about molesting women, that's all fine and dandy?
Liberal elite experts dont like it up 'em. Who'd have thought it.
He's right though, whether he is 'liberal elite' or not.
The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
Why do you imply that basic standards of reading and writing have improved since grammar schools were mostly abolished when you must know that isn't true?
I don't mean to imply that: the standards have remained stubbornly low - I don't have the figures to hand, but I think since the 1950s; i.e. before the abolition of grammar schools. Decades of utter failure.
As such, you have a point. But the reverse does not apply, and the evidence, as linked on here in the past, shows that areas that have grammar schools do not help those who most need it.
Grammar schools will, by their very nature, suck up resources that would best be spent on the 20%.
Having said all that, I'm unsure how much money you can throw to help many of that 20%. Parenting is a massively important factor. But concentrating on the top end does nothing for them.
The Sutton Trust report into Selective education showed there was no evidence that they reduce standards in surrounding non selective schools. Overall because they improve their own results without reducing the results of the neighbouring schools they result in a rise in overall standards for a district that has selective schooling compared to one that doesn't.
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The major problem in schools is the ~20% who leave each year functionally illiterate and/or innumerate. It is a tragedy for not just them, but the country as a whole. What is more, anyone wanting to reduce immigration should be intensely interested in improving the education of that particular cohort.
May's policy did nothing to address that problem. In fact, it would make it worse.
Good night all ....
Hillary admits to knowing exactly what security protocols mean, she lied to the FBI: https://t.co/uotY9V7aEW #PodestaEmails https://t.co/wIwkSqvlGB
Either that or I'm allergic to soap.
One woman was walking the coast and entered Aberdeen one morning. It was the first big town/city she had seen in months since Fort William. People, often dressed in suits, stared at her open-mouthed as she passed. She had no idea why.
Until one kind soul reminded her that her pants and bras were hanging off the side and back of her pack to dry.
In fact, I get so hideous that I'm forced to wear a Burka:
http://www.britishwalks.org/walks/walk_pics/Digital/20030810/HTML/P20038106718.php
But I respect those who believe and my friends are very generous and their faith buoys them up
Anyone in a job even with a relatively small company is aware of the security protocols of their company and are normally introduced to this on their first day. Just can't believe that a First Lady, and subsequent Secretary of State did not know what security protocols were. Never really made sense.
Perhaps a checklist, real or imagined, would help. Is the material new or old? Is it from a credible source or from one of the satirical sites? Has it been picked up by mainstream news outlets? Does it pass the smell test or is it tin foil hat time, like the pneumonia-ridden body double with the wrong-shaped ear lobes? Is it even about Hillary or is it an attack on Bill, Obama or someone else who is not actually standing?
In the past, you have rightly criticised those who attacked Cameron or Boris for being posh. It is irrelevant and in any case, priced in. Many of the Trump camp's attacks on Hillary fall into the same class. Everyone knows she is the ultimate political insider. Of course she wants to appoint liberal justices to the supreme court, and has taken money from Wall Street. Even the email server falls into this general category of baggage that everyone knows about so it is not going to swing the election and we need not change our bets.
And tell us why we should care. Like others, I've spent a lot of time reading through your links without really knowing what I am looking for, since you've not summarised it. After a while, I give up. I doubt I'm alone in that.
This election has destroyed MSM and FBI trust - they don't care - it's about getting Hillary elected.
(Innocent face)
No.
And also their complete inability to move on.
High time the government interned the worst of them in the isle of man.
Somewhere that isnt in the EU, is a bit fussy who it lets live there but is still in the single market and dosent have a border with the UK......
Mike Cernovich
Remember when I reported on #GOPSabotage and haters questioned me? All those who deny my stories are paid shills. https://t.co/07Tf3laPCH https://t.co/57qMPjhY44
PB Leavers, consider this your trigger warning for the morning thread, it is likely to cause you harm and/or distress
*gets smallest violin*
Dan Hannan is particularly hilarious
BOOOOM!!!!! #HillaryBecause Hillary Clinton Camp & @GloriaAllred & DNC Conspired Hoax Grope on Donald Trump read whole 2 emails below!!! https://t.co/Y9cSeJgxwD
But as a Bexiteer I am loving it.
Seriously, why would I vote Lib Dem/Nick Clegg in 2020 when I declined the opportunity to do so in 2015?
Moronic driblings from you and your ilk, telling me, who will be celebrating 20 years in the Tory party next year, that I'm actually a Lib Dem was amusing at first, it is bloody tedious now.
Curly, Larry and Moe are joint project managers and some kind of Wannabe Margaret as the Project Sponsor.
It's all going swimmingly!
Not exactly the words of a content member perhaps?
You must be French is you surrender when they going gets tough. Me I'm from Yorkshire, we fight on, we win, just like Rome during the Second Punic War.
Didn't the City of Sheffield vote for Brexit?
Didn't Yorkshire & the Humber vote for Brexit?
Correct?
If you want to have a head to head spat that'll bore everyone else to death on US activist politics - feel free.
nah, Ive never been a member but after voting Tory since 2001 and giving Dave the benefit of the doubt in 2010 on the grounds that Brown had to go; I went over to voting UKIP after osbornes Child Benefit wheeze in autumn 2010. Set to vote Tory again now that sanity has returned under May.
Greater love hath no man than this, that he lay down his country for his career.
Not that TSE is in any way similar to Martin McGuiness of course.
BUSTED: @Guardian Trump Accuser #CathyHeller Big Democrat Donor, Family Owns COMPETING NYC Real Estate Dev Company
http://gotnews.com/busted-guardian-trump-accuser-is-life-long-democrat-donor-family-owns-competing-nyc-real-estate-dev-company/
This is dismal stuff
McGuiness was Real in his early years until he was beaten up. And was a walk in. Then it changed.
Adams was real until his brother was discovered as a Paedo...
As such, you have a point. But the reverse does not apply, and the evidence, as linked on here in the past, shows that areas that have grammar schools do not help those who most need it.
Grammar schools will, by their very nature, suck up resources that would best be spent on the 20%.
Having said all that, I'm unsure how much money you can throw to help many of that 20%. Parenting is a massively important factor. But concentrating on the top end does nothing for them.
Exactly, eurosceptics whined, misrepresented and generally poisoned the well for 40 years but now expect pro-europeans to immediately accept their total and absolute victory of 52-48.
Well they can ram it, Holding charlatans to account is the order of the day.
https://youtu.be/LpzfdC8HGP4
I mean, do you think if he was only a fantasist who made up a lot of lies about molesting women, that's all fine and dandy?