"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
According to wikipedia, Reckless is the subject of several thinly-veiled anecdotes in Appel's satire, The Man Who Wouldn't Stand Up -- about a baseball player who refused to stand for the national anthem. Life imitates art.
I mean there's no Devil, Illuminati, or The Bilderberg Group on that list
Why would those 3 need paid? More likely to be contributors. On the other hand having a list called "voter suppression" seems a tad unlikely at the risk of understatement.
Comres poll in Sunday Mirror Con 40% : Lab 32% : UKIP 11% : LD 9% : SNP 5% : Grn 4%
I've told you before, IT'S NOT A VI.
ComRes have said they aren't doing VI polls for the time being, what you are posting is voter ID, not voter intention.
Please stop doing this. These figures generally overestimate Labour and underestimate the Tories.
It was on UK Polling Report.
And it was on there the last time, and I told you it was nonsense.
TSE, When I commented earlier I was simply reporting what I had picked up from the UKPR site.However, I have now taken the trouble to look at the tables provided myself. It does specifically refer to 'Voting Intention' in respect of which there are weighted and unweighted data. Perhaps you would like to take a look yourself!
For anyone who doesn't follow Jill Stein, she's preferred Trump and on fire
Jill Stein Why does the corporate media prop up Hillary and smear her opponents? Because they're huge donors to her foundation. https://t.co/GXHuMB5Wl4
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
According to wikipedia, Reckless is the subject of several thinly-veiled anecdotes in Appel's satire, The Man Who Wouldn't Stand Up -- about a baseball player who refused to stand for the national anthem. Life imitates art.
Incidentally with Sarkozy drifting to 7/1 on Betfair it is possible with Juppé at 5/6 to take Les Republicans at an effective 1.5, which I think it very strong value. All the polls - Juppé easily and Sarkozy just - suggest a victory.
I mean there's no Devil, Illuminati, or The Bilderberg Group on that list
Why would those 3 need paid? More likely to be contributors. On the other hand having a list called "voter suppression" seems a tad unlikely at the risk of understatement.
If that list of payments is genuine then it's a big story, but it doesn't smell right somehow.
Why the Clinton Foundadion charity, when most of her incoming donations are to her PAC?
Incidentally with Sarkozy drifting to 7/1 on Betfair it is possible with Juppé at 5/6 to take Les Republicans at an effective 1.5, which I think it very strong value. All the polls - Juppé easily and Sarkozy just - suggest a victory.
From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised at a Lib Dem gain. Sir Patrick McLoughlin isn't impressing as Party Chairman. Dave has been forced to do some more campaigning in the seat, he's really popular in the seat. And the less said about the Lib Dem Edward MacMillan-Scott the better.
Yes Mcloughlin is a dud. Is 58 and looks 15 year older. Noticeable that CCHQ have sent no emails to this member asking for help. Have any PB Conservative members been asked by CCHQ?
The amusing thing is the Witney Tories have a very strong infrastructure, based on when Shaun Woodward defected, and they worked hard to make sure there were no surprises in 2001, and since 2005 their local MP ensured membership was high and events were always well attended.
Now CCHQ appears not be deploying those resources.
Did May not sack alot of CCHQ staff when she took over? Certainly CCHQ seem alot less active than they have in the past.
She did, and quite a lot of number 10 staff too, I posted about it here at the time.
She's quite the callous person, she took away their heart passes, without giving them the opportunity to collect their personal belongings that night.
Some were sacked without getting the opportunity to collect their mobiles, wallets, etc, which made getting back home that evening quite the challenge.
These were people who had served the Tory party long before David Cameron became leader.
As somebody put it to me at conference, Mrs May and her entourage seem to think the Tories won in 2015 in spite of David Cameron, not because of him.
Speaking from a position of complete ignorance, although it seems a horrible thing to do, isn't it more likely that Mrs May was clearing out people who've been strongly committed to the EU all their careers?
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
(And good evening, everyone)
That begs the question of whether Theresa May feels very strongly about the EU one way or the other. She said even less during the referendum than Jeremy Corbyn.
Whatever Mrs May's personal feelings about it, she took on the job of implementing a decision that is extremely unpopular in government/parliamentary/civil service/big business circles.
She's surrounded by people who are really keen to see the Leave decision negated. If a rapid clear-out of staff gives many other entrenched careerists cause to change tack, maybe she had reason for what seems brutal.
Incidentally with Sarkozy drifting to 7/1 on Betfair it is possible with Juppé at 5/6 to take Les Republicans at an effective 1.5, which I think it very strong value. All the polls - Juppé easily and Sarkozy just - suggest a victory.
Are you still in America, any insights and tips?
Back yesterday! Actually other than literally everyone being bored of both candidates, not nationally. In California my strong feeling was that Harris would defeat Sanchez in their senate race, but that is a blue-on-blue campaign (and there doesn't seem to be a market up for such a niche thing).
I mean there's no Devil, Illuminati, or The Bilderberg Group on that list
Why would those 3 need paid? More likely to be contributors. On the other hand having a list called "voter suppression" seems a tad unlikely at the risk of understatement.
If that list of payments is genuine then it's a big story, but it doesn't smell right somehow.
Why the Clinton Foundadion charity, when most of her incoming donations are to her PAC?
I think it's BS. Why? Because it is just too perfect. If you had asked what would be the perfect piece of evidence to incriminate and destroy Clinton this would be it. I just don't believe anyone would be daft enough to make such a list.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Incidentally with Sarkozy drifting to 7/1 on Betfair it is possible with Juppé at 5/6 to take Les Republicans at an effective 1.5, which I think it very strong value. All the polls - Juppé easily and Sarkozy just - suggest a victory.
Are you still in America, any insights and tips?
Back yesterday! Actually other than literally everyone being bored of both candidates, not nationally. In California my strong feeling was that Harris would defeat Sanchez in their senate race, but that is a blue-on-blue campaign (and there doesn't seem to be a market up for such a niche thing).
I mean there's no Devil, Illuminati, or The Bilderberg Group on that list
Why would those 3 need paid? More likely to be contributors. On the other hand having a list called "voter suppression" seems a tad unlikely at the risk of understatement.
If that list of payments is genuine then it's a big story, but it doesn't smell right somehow.
Why the Clinton Foundadion charity, when most of her incoming donations are to her PAC?
Yeah a PAC and a different title would have been a much more believable fiction. Poor effort.
but I mean what on Earth would that mean here, they're paying to suppress Glenn Beck? Or to have him suppress other people? Not sure he's the Democrats #1 fan...
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
You repeatedly provide fake info. It is embarrassing.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
Interesting: "She said whether Britain would get access to the European single market depended on whether it accepted the EU's four freedoms, including the freedom of movement of people.
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
Tusk is on record as saying the choices are Hard Brexit or No Brexit.
Stopping people voting, normally the purview of the Republicans.
Presumably they are paying all these leftie Dave Spart and Ali G tribute groups on the grounds that this will help to ** counter ** voter suppression?
The payment by the Clinton campaign to the Sharia Law Centre is so that they can send "observers" to the polling stations. You'll be able to recognise them because they'll be reading the New York Times and wearing burqas. Any intending voter who doesn't know the name of the Prophet's mother won't be allowed to vote. I learnt this from Roger Stone, Mike Ledeen and Steve Bannon.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
Hard for PB to ignore Wiki-Clinton with your assiduous posting not to mention that if twitter were the all encompassing political dynamic then Prime Minister Miliband would be sitting in 10 Downing Street.
TBH, your endless snarking and claiming to be a guru isn't edifying either.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Interesting: "She said whether Britain would get access to the European single market depended on whether it accepted the EU's four freedoms, including the freedom of movement of people.
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
Tusk is on record as saying the choices are Hard Brexit or No Brexit.
It is not ultimately Tusk's decision. Anymore than it is Juncker's
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Quite frankly I don't think you are the last person who should be calling anyone "creepy and odd"
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
Interesting: "She said whether Britain would get access to the European single market depended on whether it accepted the EU's four freedoms, including the freedom of movement of people.
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
Tusk is on record as saying the choices are Hard Brexit or No Brexit.
It is not ultimately Tusk's decision. Anymore than it is Juncker's
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Go easy - or you might get a please carry on red avatar if you are not careful.
Its irrelevant if you cant convince people here. Just means more people betting clinton so better odds on Donald so a bigger payout if he wins.
I dont think this wikileaks will go anywhere unless they manage to find a conspiracy by hilary et al to get trump selected in the primaries because they have a load of manure they can dump on him before the election.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
JackW isn't the problem here.
His posts are generally relevant to political betting whereas yours almost never are.
If there's a poster who stands out as creepy and odd, it's you.
@ShippersUnbound: Boris Johnson's secret article supporting Remain, written 2 days before he backed Brexit, will be revealed tonight in the Sunday Times
@ShippersUnbound: Boris Johnson's secret article supporting Remain, written 2 days before he backed Brexit, will be revealed tonight in the Sunday Times
Interesting: "She said whether Britain would get access to the European single market depended on whether it accepted the EU's four freedoms, including the freedom of movement of people.
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
Tusk is on record as saying the choices are Hard Brexit or No Brexit.
It is not ultimately Tusk's decision. Anymore than it is Juncker's
Nor is it ours, once Article 50 is invoked!
It is ours as much as it is the EUs. If either side want a hard Brexit that is what will happen. If both sides want a deal that is what will happen. What definitely won't happen is Tusk or Juncker having a veto, nor any real influence, on what sort of Brexit we get.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
For those of us who don't want to go down a Breitbart wormhole, what are the key allegations/revelations from Wikileaks?
I'm sorry Plato but in the sheer flood of links you post, I've never seen a smoking gun.
The craziness is getting worse each day - the woman is obsessed!
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Go easy - or you might get a please carry on red avatar if you are not careful.
Its irrelevant if you cant convince people here. Just means more people betting clinton so better odds on Donald so a bigger payout if he wins.
I dont think this wikileaks will go anywhere unless they manage to find a conspiracy by hilary et al to get trump selected in the primaries because they have a load of manure they can dump on him before the election.
TBH, Pbers are so pro Hillary it's almost pointless - I try to add the other angry side and it's dismissed way more than even Corbynistas
I've almost given up bothering. Have an echo chamber tutting - it's so smug and snuggly.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Go easy - or you might get a please carry on red avatar if you are not careful.
Its irrelevant if you cant convince people here. Just means more people betting clinton so better odds on Donald so a bigger payout if he wins.
I dont think this wikileaks will go anywhere unless they manage to find a conspiracy by hilary et al to get trump selected in the primaries because they have a load of manure they can dump on him before the election.
TBH, Pbers are so pro Hillary it's almost pointless - I try to add the other angry side and it's dismissed way more than even Corbynistas
I've almost given up bothering. Have an echo chamber tutting - it's so smug and snuggly.
It was like that in both 2015 election (when there was quite a banning purge) and 2016 referendum and I was proved right both times.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
So you can't find any ... not even one ....
What a sad figure you have become.
No - there's too many to list where you make pussy remarks and cite me without any other relevance. It's dead easy.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
Go easy - or you might get a please carry on red avatar if you are not careful.
Its irrelevant if you cant convince people here. Just means more people betting clinton so better odds on Donald so a bigger payout if he wins.
I dont think this wikileaks will go anywhere unless they manage to find a conspiracy by hilary et al to get trump selected in the primaries because they have a load of manure they can dump on him before the election.
TBH, Pbers are so pro Hillary it's almost pointless - I try to add the other angry side and it's dismissed way more than even Corbynistas
I've almost given up bothering. Have an echo chamber tutting - it's so smug and snuggly.
Because the notion of Trump as POTUS is even less credulous than the notion of Corbyn as Labour leader. At least with the latter we fully expect him to be replaced before the next General Election. If we were just weeks before a General election in the middle of the campaign I rather suspect Corbynites would be responded to differently.
No, I've got bored of your creepy random posts about me that you think are funny. Just don't do it.
Perhaps you might direct PB to my "creepy random posts" or are you just throwing out random unsubstantiated allegations just as you condemn others of doing so?
No, there's loads of them out of the blue - just don't do it again. It's creepy and odd.
No - acting the Trump bitch on here is creepy and odd. Just stop!
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
What is it Clinton has supposed to have said about Catholics?
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
I've rarely agreed with Plato, but I think the forum becomes boring when we slag each other off. We don't really know for sure how the US election will turn out, and it's fine to have some pro-Trump people here like Plato putting their best case. If we don't agree with it, we don't have to, shrug.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
I'm a life long atheist, but have many Evangelical friends - they're really good people even if I don't get their faith. It's really impressed me.
I detest the Left's desire to tear it down because somehow The State should replace it.
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Plato could do with some help.
So could some of the pro EU moaners on here.
PB: a betting website but not so much runners and riders as winners and whiners.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
+1
It's no more crap than SeanT's attempt to use the plot of the 1960s Zulu movie to prove that Brexit will once again enable Britain to rule the world. At least there are some (misguided) people in the US who agree with Ms Plato.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
*runs and hides*
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
What is it Clinton has supposed to have said about Catholics?
Absolutely nothing. But at least with Beds Paul, you know he's trolling deliberately.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
+1
It's no more crap than SeanT's attempt to use the plot of the 1960s Zulu movie to prove that Brexit will once again enable Britain to rule the world. At least there are some (misguided) people in the US who agree with Ms Plato.
Ah but Zulu is a classic and proves beyond all doubt that Brits can rule the world (if that is ok with all the other countries).
Talking of which saw Apollo 13 tonight for about the 20th time. Not made it through without tearing up yet. Just epic.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
I made the same point a few days ago. It's what people actually believe that affects the vote, thus the outcome and importantly whether a bet is successful or not. Simply ignoring or rubbishing the information misses the important point.
It's out there people who vote read it and make a judgement. It matters not what we here on PB think or believe, can prove or disprove it's what the the average US voter does and I suspect they don't go into it in the same depth as is done on this site.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
+1
It's no more crap than SeanT's attempt to use the plot of the 1960s Zulu movie to prove that Brexit will once again enable Britain to rule the world. At least there are some (misguided) people in the US who agree with Ms Plato.
Ah but Zulu is a classic and proves beyond all doubt that Brits can rule the world (if that is ok with all the other countries).
Talking of which saw Apollo 13 tonight for about the 20th time. Not made it through without tearing up yet. Just epic.
A dramatised version of how a couple of hundred people with rifles can fend off a few thousand natives with spears proves that fifty years ago we could make a good film.
I know. I was there when they turned off the lights.
Oh, not that Acorn.
I went through uni using a RiscPC. Still my most fondly remembered computer. I sold it on at a profit a few years ago after it had been gathering dust in the corner of the room for a while.
Actually bought a Raspberry Pi recently in order to run RISC OS, but haven't used it much.
I've rarely agreed with Plato, but I think the forum becomes boring when we slag each other off. We don't really know for sure how the US election will turn out, and it's fine to have some pro-Trump people here like Plato putting their best case. If we don't agree with it, we don't have to, shrug.
With which I would agree entirely. (& something. very similar apples to the SNP posters on here.)
It's when Plato complains about the shrug, as she has repeatedly, that she loses my sympathy.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
Another one. If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Plato could do with some help.
Getting nasty here, I see a bunch of jessies trying to act tough and ganging up on someone. Most unedyfying.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
+1
It's no more crap than SeanT's attempt to use the plot of the 1960s Zulu movie to prove that Brexit will once again enable Britain to rule the world. At least there are some (misguided) people in the US who agree with Ms Plato.
Ah but Zulu is a classic and proves beyond all doubt that Brits can rule the world (if that is ok with all the other countries).
Talking of which saw Apollo 13 tonight for about the 20th time. Not made it through without tearing up yet. Just epic.
A dramatised version of how a couple of hundred people with rifles can fend off a few thousand natives with spears proves that fifty years ago we could make a good film.
I have to confess Film4 had Thunderbirds on tonight. Not the latest one but from 1966 with puppets and all. it was excellent.....took me back.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
Is true that walkers are too cheap to travel around the UK by train?
*runs and hides*
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
B&Bs in Kent don't have bathrooms? Or you weren't in the right place on the designated bath night? In which decade (century?) was this?
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
Aww - well if the head of the DNC campaign is inconsequential to the election - you're in the tank.
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
I am desperately trying to take you seriously. Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
And as I've noted - Catholics in the US don't agree with your handwaving, one can dismiss evidence or take it into account.
Alas I see far more bigoted comments about Catholics here from time to time (I speak as one).
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
I'm a life long atheist, but have many Evangelical friends - they're really good people even if I don't get their faith. It's really impressed me.
I detest the Left's desire to tear it down because somehow The State should replace it.
Socialism and humanism are basically a Christian heresy, hence its intolerance of Christianity.
The difference is that Christanity sees charity and assisting the poor as a means to a end - the end being successful transfer to heaven in the next world.
Socialiam and Humanism try to create a utopian heaven here and try to abolish all suffering in this world because they dont believe in the next and end up creating more misery than ever.
PB is at its worst when it seeks to shut down or pick on those who are promoting unpopular views. We seem to be getting to that stage once again.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
Thank you. What I do post is the post popular stuff I see and read.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
You.
Post.
Lies.
And then either ignore people who point out you are posting lies or get huffy.
I know. I was there when they turned off the lights.
Oh, not that Acorn.
I went through uni using a RiscPC. Still my most fondly remembered computer. I sold it on at a profit a few years ago after it had been gathering dust in the corner of the room for a while.
Actually bought a Raspberry Pi recently in order to run RISC OS, but haven't used it much.
In my garage I've got a development board with the first ever 32-bit build of RISC OS on it. The board was called 'Lazarus', and unlike it's namesake, the project died.
We went through a biblical phase for naming projects: Lazarus, Bethany, Martha.
This post has nothing to do with politics or betting.
but I mean what on Earth would that mean here, they're paying to suppress Glenn Beck? Or to have him suppress other people? Not sure he's the Democrats #1 fan...
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I mean there's no Devil, Illuminati, or The Bilderberg Group on that list
.@tperkins: "@HillaryClinton and her campaign are no friends of the first freedom: The freedom of religion." https://t.co/8T0OaAzABh
When I commented earlier I was simply reporting what I had picked up from the UKPR site.However, I have now taken the trouble to look at the tables provided myself. It does specifically refer to 'Voting Intention' in respect of which there are weighted and unweighted data. Perhaps you would like to take a look yourself!
Jill Stein
Why does the corporate media prop up Hillary and smear her opponents? Because they're huge donors to her foundation. https://t.co/GXHuMB5Wl4
Why the Clinton Foundadion charity, when most of her incoming donations are to her PAC?
She's surrounded by people who are really keen to see the Leave decision negated. If a rapid clear-out of staff gives many other entrenched careerists cause to change tack, maybe she had reason for what seems brutal.
I don't know.
https://mobile.twitter.com/electproject?lang=en-gb
Follow this blog for examples.
If you actually read the so called Podesta Catholic leak it involves two staffers - not Podesta - making some pretty innocuous speculation on why some monied conservatives might have converted to Catholicism. One of the staffers is apparently Catholic herself.
This video you've posted is simply a clip from Fox with a rentaquote Christian pundit saying that Clinton will be nasty to Christians.
This is why everyone is ignoring your posts, Plato. Because there's nowt in them.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/the-tragic-story-of-the-first-world-war-flying-ace-behind-the-20/
Catholics and Evangelicals have noticed big time - but aren't convenient for Hillary fans. Seriously, this isn't a PB personality war here - it's providing commentary on what those who're watching this stuff closely are seeing and saying.
Ignore at your will, I just provide the info.
How soon will the tape be released?
@aedwardslevy
I tallied up the yard signs...congratulations to President Beware Of Dog and Vice President Stay Off The Grass!
Pew Research
Few Europeans say growing diversity makes their country a better place (Americans disagree) https://t.co/gorWKyGUK6 https://t.co/TdwIMwF8qP
By the way, it's "Amina".
anyone who thinks they have something to say on the US election who doesn't immediately spot this as a spoof...
Once again, the remarks about Catholics, we're not made by Podesta. And the remarks are not interesting anyway.
It's an utter non-story.
Oh, not that Acorn.
Its irrelevant if you cant convince people here. Just means more people betting clinton so better odds on Donald so a bigger payout if he wins.
I dont think this wikileaks will go anywhere unless they manage to find a conspiracy by hilary et al to get trump selected in the primaries because they have a load of manure they can dump on him before the election.
His posts are generally relevant to political betting whereas yours almost never are.
If there's a poster who stands out as creepy and odd, it's you.
REMAIN 48%
What a sad figure you have become.
I've almost given up bothering. Have an echo chamber tutting - it's so smug and snuggly.
They were rather naive comments that show Clinton knows little about the Catholic church, but I cant see it causing huge numbers of catholics switching to trump. The progressive minded ones who vote Dem probably agree with her comments in any case. Bloody heritics - that sort of liberal, Tablet reading neo gnostic abomination wouldnt be tolerated if I was Pope but is a common fault in US catholics.
A really good program on my local trail, the Icknield Way, is just finishing on Channel 4. Worth catching on 4+1 or on demand.
I'm reading Cheryl Strayed's book about her walk along the Pacific Crest Trail whilst watching it, and feeling like I need to shrug my backpack on and disappear for a few months.
I miss the wild, even if it is the 'wild' outside Luton and Dunstable.
*runs and hides*
On what the government should prioritise when negotiating Brexit: Reducing migration: 39% Favourable trade deals: 49% (via ComRes)
By far the most interesting poll finding of the evening. Let us hope that T. May understands it.
Just stop doing it.
Plato is posting stuff from the Trump camp. Some of it is total crap. Some of it is interesting. On this side of the pond it is bloody hard to work out which is which. But picking on her for doing so is just silly. This stuff is playing loud in the US and influencing some voters. By no means a plurality but a significant number. Don't we want to know about it?
Chill.
I detest the Left's desire to tear it down because somehow The State should replace it.
It's no more crap than SeanT's attempt to use the plot of the 1960s Zulu movie to prove that Brexit will once again enable Britain to rule the world. At least there are some (misguided) people in the US who agree with Ms Plato.
Most of my train travel used to involve walking. Do a day's walk, get a train back to my car, and then drive to a B&B. Rinse and repeat. I did all the North Downs Way in that manner.
Walking can be a really expensive hobby. Not just in the kit you carry, but also in the B&B/hotels, drinks / food and general merrymaking. It's also a good way to meet women. If they're not repelled by beards and the smell of having been unwashed for two weeks, you're in luck ...
And you're usually so good at posting links. Anyone might think you made it up ?!?
But at least with Beds Paul, you know he's trolling deliberately.
Talking of which saw Apollo 13 tonight for about the 20th time. Not made it through without tearing up yet. Just epic.
It's out there people who vote read it and make a judgement. It matters not what we here on PB think or believe, can prove or disprove it's what the the average US voter does and I suspect they don't go into it in the same depth as is done on this site.
https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/787371266143641600
Actually bought a Raspberry Pi recently in order to run RISC OS, but haven't used it much.
(& something. very similar apples to the SNP posters on here.)
It's when Plato complains about the shrug, as she has repeatedly, that she loses my sympathy.
I'm guessing bar the two Tim's - I watch and read more US media than almost everyone here - so... feel free to dismiss what I post to feel superior - or note it.
I watch all the main political shows, rallies, activist site videos and read hundreds of Twitter posts. A day.
I'm very engaged - but clearly a troll because some don't like stuff. Seriously? I do wonder what PB has become here - do you want information or just pile on?
The difference is that Christanity sees charity and assisting the poor as a means to a end - the end being successful transfer to heaven in the next world.
Socialiam and Humanism try to create a utopian heaven here and try to abolish all suffering in this world because they dont believe in the next and end up creating more misery than ever.
Post.
Lies.
And then either ignore people who point out you are posting lies or get huffy.
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/15/13286498/donald-trump-voters-race-economic-anxiety
We went through a biblical phase for naming projects: Lazarus, Bethany, Martha.
This post has nothing to do with politics or betting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normanton,_Pontefract_and_Castleford_(UK_Parliament_constituency)