Mr. Eagles, that behaviour seems rather cold, even vindictive.
The Lib Dem SPADs who were forced out in May 2015 said David Cameron and his government treated them with a lot more dignity, respect, and downright kindness when they had to go.
Mrs May's behaviour is the sort of thing that comes back and haunt you later on in life.
It's all the more strange in that I've also met people who speak very highly of her (including one very left wing woman who has no sympathy at all politically).
I find this in business, particularly in large organisations: people love to gossip and telling selective anecdotes about those they don't particularly like, respect, or get on with, than paint them in a less than flattering light.
Often such people will tell themselves stories as well: take a couple of facts, stitch them together into a story, and then suppose a motive of malice that fits their narrative.
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
Mr. Eagles, that behaviour seems rather cold, even vindictive.
The Lib Dem SPADs who were forced out in May 2015 said David Cameron and his government treated them with a lot more dignity, respect, and downright kindness when they had to go.
Mrs May's behaviour is the sort of thing that comes back and haunt you later on in life.
Didn't they all have a couple of days' notice of the new PM taking office? If I was a political appointee of the old one I'd have been expecting the chop and planned accordingly, would have been a nice surprise to be invited to stay on. Slightly surprised that there didn't seem to be much protocol for the actual process though.
Initially the staff were expecting to be gone by mid September, as per the original timetable for the Tory leadership election, but on Monday 11th July when Andrea Leadsom pulled out, it was intimated to the staff staying that they'd be staying in some capacity as this wasn't a change of party, and their knowledge was needed in Brexit world, but that they'd be staying on until September at the very least.
Come Wednesday 13th of July,
6pm, Mrs May is in Downing Street,
6.30pm sack George Osborne
7.15pm sack all the staff.
The electorate like strong decisive leaders. Conservative MPs and civil servants will also have taken note not to step out of line.
The Treasury civil servants seem deaf to the message.
Don't Knows breaking for Jezza after seeing TMay's conference performance.
The more voters see of Mrs May, the more they break for Jeremy Corbyn.
Alarming for Tories everywhere.
I might do the morning thread on this.
You cannot hide your leader during a general election campaign.
This post must have required some mental gymnastics. Surely the effect could be entirely accounted for by him now being able to fill the majority of his cabinet & frontbench?
Looking at the parliamentary numbers, I'd say Theresa May could count on between 310-320 MPs for the Great Repeal Bill. What will be crucial is how many MPs abstain, rather than actively voting against the Bill, and how Labour MPs will split.
I expect some divisions on the opposition benches as they weigh up their own views on Brexit, and their views on the future of the Labour party and its leadership, possibly with some limited triangulation against what Corbyn is doing.
In the House of Lords, I'd expect it to pass unless a very large chunk of crossbenchers decide to side with the Labour and Lib Dem Lords.
The Democrat-media complex carpet bombed Donald Trump with several alleged groping stories this week from several women.
The media clearly did not fact check these stories. They ran the stories no matter how farfetched they were. It is clear from the number of stories dropped in the last week that this was a coordinated effort, probably from inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. The goal was not to present facts to the public. Their goal was to destroy Donald Trump.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Some tweets about the chances of a 2017 or 2018 election, based on conversations over last fortnight and this piece
From thinking a pre 2020 election was off the cards before we headed to Birmingham for Tory conference, now I think it can't be discounted.
TM may not want to call one from a position of strength. But I report here why she may end up having to from a position of weakness. Why...... Meanwhile George Osborne is meeting groups of Tory MPs for drinks...
Is any of this really suprising? May is backing down all over the place. foreign workers. debating eu plans in parliament. Its a very weak government. The performance up till now 'brexit means brexit' etc was all a massive bluff. buying time. kicking cans down the road.
the biggest joke is the 'great repeal bill which has almost nothing to do with the main issues involved in Brexit which is our economic relationship with the EU post departure and immigration control. It is basically an administrative issue.
I had a look and there are no options to bet on the next general election date, I think Ladbrokes are on evens for the next general election before 2020. Meanwhile the odds that art 50 wont be triggered until after May 2017 are shortening to around 2/1
This government is in a massive crisis. In my view this is caused by the underlying fact that 52% is not the absolute definitive mandate for 'hard brexit' that May claims. the political gravity will move against the status quo as it always does, and will be exacerbated orimarily by the problems with inflation due to the low pound.
In some respects, they should have just triggered article 50 in late June and to hell with the pain because the longer time goes by, the more difficult it becomes.
Until the last 2-3 years. And we all know what happened then.
After Whitelaw retired.....
After the 1987GE when she thought she was God's representative on earth.
Interesting WWII fact (no. 1): The German army employed more than 100 different types of truck, all made by different factories with different parts. The US Army has one standard army truck made by factories all across the States.
That’s the beauty of a command economy.
Oh, sorry, I thought it said Soviet army.
Excellent insight Mr R - for the Soviet army too, had just one type of truck.
Although - interesting fact (no 2) - 75% of all the equipment used by the Allies (including the USSR) during WWII was manufactured in the USA.
Source please, Mr. B2.
The overy book i referenced this morning. "Why the Allies won". Highly recommended
Interesting fact (no. 3): number of horses used to transport the army and its equipment in 1944: US/UK: zero. Germany: 1,250,000
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
Don't Knows breaking for Jezza after seeing TMay's conference performance.
TMay's lead collapses from +39 to +34.....
collapse ? It is a few % shifting. TSE is spinning for Osborne.
But TSE is very close to the Osborne camp, and offers fantastic insight into their way of thinking.
Osborne is quite clearly on manoeuvres, positioning himself as a leader-in-waiting in case May falls, even if I think he is mistaken to do so, and would be unlikely to benefit if she did.
It still makes the 200/1 on him being PM after the next GE with Skybet value, in my view.
These odds are well out of kilter with the 14/1 on him being next Conservative leader, even if he would have to win a GE by himself to make it pay out.
Hell Witney is boring compared to what's going over the pond. Come on pb let's have plenty of threads following this most salacious and vicious election of any of our lifetimes.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
Hell Witney is boring compared to what's going over the pond. Come on pb let's have plenty of threads following this most salacious and vicious election of any of our lifetimes.
The Democrat-media complex carpet bombed Donald Trump with several alleged groping stories this week from several women.
The media clearly did not fact check these stories. They ran the stories no matter how farfetched they were. It is clear from the number of stories dropped in the last week that this was a coordinated effort, probably from inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. The goal was not to present facts to the public. Their goal was to destroy Donald Trump.
Interesting: "She said whether Britain would get access to the European single market depended on whether it accepted the EU's four freedoms, including the freedom of movement of people.
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
My understanding is that on average, people consumed more calories 60-70 years ago, but with more people performing manual labour/walking to work or school, obesity wasn't a problem.
Interesting WWII fact (no. 1): The German army employed more than 100 different types of truck, all made by different factories with different parts. The US Army has one standard army truck made by factories all across the States.
That’s the beauty of a command economy.
Oh, sorry, I thought it said Soviet army.
Excellent insight Mr R - for the Soviet army too, had just one type of truck.
Although - interesting fact (no 2) - 75% of all the equipment used by the Allies (including the USSR) during WWII was manufactured in the USA.
Source please, Mr. B2.
I can believe it. The amount of kit the Yanks made was insane.
A relative of mine made a lot of money after the war buying surplus engines and using them in plant. In a similar manner, a company making plant compressors (sadly I can't recall the make (1)) started off using such surplus engines after the war.
Now for a bit more recent history. Sometime after the first Gulf War, a ship arrived in Liverpool loaded with kit that had been sent down, not used, and returned. It was all sold off, after which the ship itself was auctioned.
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
My understanding is that on average, people consumed more calories 60-70 years ago, but with more people performing manual labour/walking to work or school, obesity wasn't a problem.
That's mine as well, but it would be good to see more than two datapoints.
The Democrat-media complex carpet bombed Donald Trump with several alleged groping stories this week from several women.
The media clearly did not fact check these stories. They ran the stories no matter how farfetched they were. It is clear from the number of stories dropped in the last week that this was a coordinated effort, probably from inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. The goal was not to present facts to the public. Their goal was to destroy Donald Trump.
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
My understanding is that on average, people consumed more calories 60-70 years ago, but with more people performing manual labour/walking to work or school, obesity wasn't a problem.
That's mine as well, but it would be good to see more than two datapoints.
According to the sugar conspiracy theorists, people ate more fat and less carbohydrate 50 years ago, and therefore were skinnier.
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
My understanding is that on average, people consumed more calories 60-70 years ago, but with more people performing manual labour/walking to work or school, obesity wasn't a problem.
Anecdotes can be misleading but based on the schools round here, there is no childhood obesity problem but many of the parents are confirmed salad-dodgers. If there is in fact a real problem among children then perhaps there are regional variations.
Hell Witney is boring compared to what's going over the pond. Come on pb let's have plenty of threads following this most salacious and vicious election of any of our lifetimes.
James O'Keefe This incredible. Mayor @BilldeBlasio called for firing of NY Elections Commissioner we caught on tape. We're turning them against each other
That's the Demo guy taped talking about vote fraud
Don't Knows breaking for Jezza after seeing TMay's conference performance.
TMay's lead collapses from +39 to +34.....
collapse ? It is a few % shifting. TSE is spinning for Osborne.
But TSE is very close to the Osborne camp, and offers fantastic insight into their way of thinking.
Osborne is quite clearly on manoeuvres, positioning himself as a leader-in-waiting in case May falls, even if I think he is mistaken to do so, and would be unlikely to benefit if she did.
It still makes the 200/1 on him being PM after the next GE with Skybet value, in my view.
These odds are well out of kilter with the 14/1 on him being next Conservative leader, even if he would have to win a GE by himself to make it pay out.
Give TSE a bit of space to compose his letter to the good voters of Witney...
The Democrat-media complex carpet bombed Donald Trump with several alleged groping stories this week from several women.
The media clearly did not fact check these stories. They ran the stories no matter how farfetched they were. It is clear from the number of stories dropped in the last week that this was a coordinated effort, probably from inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. The goal was not to present facts to the public. Their goal was to destroy Donald Trump.
Not that Donald Trump has ever discussed sexually assaulting women ....
Oh wait ....
Thegatewaypundit being a site a sterling probity and firm moral convictions that would never, ever publish an easily verifiable lie about Hilary Clinton of course.
From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised at a Lib Dem gain. Sir Patrick McLoughlin isn't impressing as Party Chairman. Dave has been forced to do some more campaigning in the seat, he's really popular in the seat. And the less said about the Lib Dem Edward MacMillan-Scott the better.
Yes Mcloughlin is a dud. Is 58 and looks 15 year older. Noticeable that CCHQ have sent no emails to this member asking for help. Have any PB Conservative members been asked by CCHQ?
The amusing thing is the Witney Tories have a very strong infrastructure, based on when Shaun Woodward defected, and they worked hard to make sure there were no surprises in 2001, and since 2005 their local MP ensured membership was high and events were always well attended.
Now CCHQ appears not be deploying those resources.
Did May not sack alot of CCHQ staff when she took over? Certainly CCHQ seem alot less active than they have in the past.
She did, and quite a lot of number 10 staff too, I posted about it here at the time.
She's quite the callous person, she took away their heart passes, without giving them the opportunity to collect their personal belongings that night.
Some were sacked without getting the opportunity to collect their mobiles, wallets, etc, which made getting back home that evening quite the challenge.
These were people who had served the Tory party long before David Cameron became leader.
As somebody put it to me at conference, Mrs May and her entourage seem to think the Tories won in 2015 in spite of David Cameron, not because of him.
Speaking from a position of complete ignorance, although it seems a horrible thing to do, isn't it more likely that Mrs May was clearing out people who've been strongly committed to the EU all their careers?
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
What about Fox news and plethora of right wing outlets ? They might be telling the truth or not we don't know but the women said the reason they came forward now was because of what they see is a lie by him during the second debate. I think we shouldn't just dismiss them just because they are coming out now. Oh and by the way there are many cases around sexual assault against Donlad and many media outlets have been reporting it for a long time but because the media are so dumbed down and sensationalist they didn't focus on it until the access Hollywood tape was released and he said the word Pussey. Yes the media have been doing us a diservice (I think twitter and 24 hour news are at fault) and we deserve much better but we can't dismiss it just because of the timing of it or because they are all coming out now. Remember the bill Crosby and jimmy saville stuff abuse victims often feel ashamed/stigmatised to speak out and when one speaks out others feel encouraged.
There is also a pattern of behaviour with him that is just odd, and ofcouse that doesn't make him guilty but in the absence of have any time for a trial before the election voters have to decide if they trust him. Hmmm.
Hillary Clinton: "I want to defend fracking." Climate change environmentalists should "Get a life," #PodestaEmails8 https://t.co/DFENUuO5Fr
Your link just goes to the frontpage of politico. I went to wikileaks and searched for the phrase "I want to defend fracking" and got no hits. Do you have a link to the e-mail referenced?
Not for the first time the King of the North and the Sage of the South are in full accord.
(Now about Mrs May.....)
Hah, I did a Populus poll at lunchtime, one of the questions was I was satisfied or dissatisfied with the way the unelected PM Mrs May was doing her job,.
Theresa May is a bit too nanny-statist for my liking, but she's a pretty mainstream Conservative, I'd say.
I very much like her politics. We had plenty of nanny-statism on sugar tax, social policy and heavy flirting with minimum alcohol pricing during the Cameron years.
Ministers have watered down the UK’s long-awaited childhood obesity strategy, dropping proposed curbs on junk food television advertisements and focusing instead on the importance of school sport in moves seen as a victory for the food industry over health campaigners.
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
It would be interesting to see a few chars on this: obesity rates over time, average calorie intake over time, and average activity per day over time.
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
My understanding is that on average, people consumed more calories 60-70 years ago, but with more people performing manual labour/walking to work or school, obesity wasn't a problem.
That's mine as well, but it would be good to see more than two datapoints.
From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised at a Lib Dem gain. Sir Patrick McLoughlin isn't impressing as Party Chairman. Dave has been forced to do some more campaigning in the seat, he's really popular in the seat. And the less said about the Lib Dem Edward MacMillan-Scott the better.
Yes Mcloughlin is a dud. Is 58 and looks 15 year older. Noticeable that CCHQ have sent no emails to this member asking for help. Have any PB Conservative members been asked by CCHQ?
The amusing thing is the Witney Tories have a very strong infrastructure, based on when Shaun Woodward defected, and they worked hard to make sure there were no surprises in 2001, and since 2005 their local MP ensured membership was high and events were always well attended.
Now CCHQ appears not be deploying those resources.
Did May not sack alot of CCHQ staff when she took over? Certainly CCHQ seem alot less active than they have in the past.
She did, and quite a lot of number 10 staff too, I posted about it here at the time.
She's quite the callous person, she took away their heart passes, without giving them the opportunity to collect their personal belongings that night.
Some were sacked without getting the opportunity to collect their mobiles, wallets, etc, which made getting back home that evening quite the challenge.
These were people who had served the Tory party long before David Cameron became leader.
As somebody put it to me at conference, Mrs May and her entourage seem to think the Tories won in 2015 in spite of David Cameron, not because of him.
Speaking from a position of complete ignorance, although it seems a horrible thing to do, isn't it more likely that Mrs May was clearing out people who've been strongly committed to the EU all their careers?
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
(And good evening, everyone)
That begs the question of whether Theresa May feels very strongly about the EU one way or the other. She said even less during the referendum than Jeremy Corbyn.
Hell Witney is boring compared to what's going over the pond. Come on pb let's have plenty of threads following this most salacious and vicious election of any of our lifetimes.
Comres poll in Sunday Mirror Con 40% : Lab 32% : UKIP 11% : LD 9% : SNP 5% : Grn 4%
I've told you before, IT'S NOT A VI.
ComRes have said they aren't doing VI polls for the time being, what you are posting is voter ID, not voter intention.
Please stop doing this. These figures generally overestimate Labour and underestimate the Tories.
TSE - nominated breaker of the smallest of Justin's straws.
Needed to be said, though.
Is there a particular reason ComRes are not doing VIs?
Because they got the EU referendum wrong, and they got the 2015 general election wrong*, they are engaging in a comprehensive methodology review, so no VI polls until that review has been completed.
*Well they were the most accurate** pollster at the GE
From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised at a Lib Dem gain. Sir Patrick McLoughlin isn't impressing as Party Chairman. Dave has been forced to do some more campaigning in the seat, he's really popular in the seat. And the less said about the Lib Dem Edward MacMillan-Scott the better.
Yes Mcloughlin is a dud. Is 58 and looks 15 year older. Noticeable that CCHQ have sent no emails to this member asking for help. Have any PB Conservative members been asked by CCHQ?
The amusing thing is the Witney Tories have a very strong infrastructure, based on when Shaun Woodward defected, and they worked hard to make sure there were no surprises in 2001, and since 2005 their local MP ensured membership was high and events were always well attended.
Now CCHQ appears not be deploying those resources.
Did May not sack alot of CCHQ staff when she took over? Certainly CCHQ seem alot less active than they have in the past.
She did, and quite a lot of number 10 staff too, I posted about it here at the time.
She's quite the callous person, she took away their heart passes, without giving them the opportunity to collect their personal belongings that night.
Some were sacked without getting the opportunity to collect their mobiles, wallets, etc, which made getting back home that evening quite the challenge.
These were people who had served the Tory party long before David Cameron became leader.
As somebody put it to me at conference, Mrs May and her entourage seem to think the Tories won in 2015 in spite of David Cameron, not because of him.
Speaking from a position of complete ignorance, although it seems a horrible thing to do, isn't it more likely that Mrs May was clearing out people who've been strongly committed to the EU all their careers?
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
(And good evening, everyone)
That begs the question of whether Theresa May feels very strongly about the EU one way or the other. She said even less during the referendum than Jeremy Corbyn.
I suspect that Mrs May's relative silence during the referendum campaign was good planning for the position in which she now finds herself. She's said nothing that can be held against her leading a government that will be dominated by the decision to leave the EU. She can be the neutral one banging heads together at the appropriate time!
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
From what I've heard, I wouldn't be surprised at a Lib Dem gain. Sir Patrick McLoughlin isn't impressing as Party Chairman. Dave has been forced to do some more campaigning in the seat, he's really popular in the seat. And the less said about the Lib Dem Edward MacMillan-Scott the better.
Yes Mcloughlin is a dud. Is 58 and looks 15 year older. Noticeable that CCHQ have sent no emails to this member asking for help. Have any PB Conservative members been asked by CCHQ?
The amusing thing is the Witney Tories have a very strong infrastructure, based on when Shaun Woodward defected, and they worked hard to make sure there were no surprises in 2001, and since 2005 their local MP ensured membership was high and events were always well attended.
Now CCHQ appears not be deploying those resources.
Did May not sack alot of CCHQ staff when she took over? Certainly CCHQ seem alot less active than they have in the past.
She did, and quite a lot of number 10 staff too, I posted about it here at the time.
She's quite the callous person, she took away their heart passes, without giving them the opportunity to collect their personal belongings that night.
Some were sacked without getting the opportunity to collect their mobiles, wallets, etc, which made getting back home that evening quite the challenge.
These were people who had served the Tory party long before David Cameron became leader.
As somebody put it to me at conference, Mrs May and her entourage seem to think the Tories won in 2015 in spite of David Cameron, not because of him.
Speaking from a position of complete ignorance, although it seems a horrible thing to do, isn't it more likely that Mrs May was clearing out people who've been strongly committed to the EU all their careers?
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
(And good evening, everyone)
That begs the question of whether Theresa May feels very strongly about the EU one way or the other. She said even less during the referendum than Jeremy Corbyn.
I suspect that Mrs May's relative silence during the referendum campaign was good planning for the position in which she now finds herself. She's said nothing that can be held against her leading a government that will be dominated by the decision to leave the EU. She can be the neutral one banging heads together at the appropriate time!
Ironic that Mrs May eschewed the Eurosausage path to Number 10 and chose Major's dentist.
Comres poll in Sunday Mirror Con 40% : Lab 32% : UKIP 11% : LD 9% : SNP 5% : Grn 4%
I've told you before, IT'S NOT A VI.
ComRes have said they aren't doing VI polls for the time being, what you are posting is voter ID, not voter intention.
Please stop doing this. These figures generally overestimate Labour and underestimate the Tories.
TSE - nominated breaker of the smallest of Justin's straws.
Needed to be said, though.
Is there a particular reason ComRes are not doing VIs?
Because they got the EU referendum wrong, and they got the 2015 general election wrong*, they are engaging in a comprehensive methodology review, so no VI polls until that review has been completed.
*Well they were the most accurate** pollster at the GE
**Well least inaccurate pollster
Entirely reasonable - good of them to be honest about it too.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
To be honest I'm no fan of Clinton, but both sides yelled wolf so long ago that most Brits aren't listening anymore.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
Hard for PB to ignore Wiki-Clinton with your assiduous posting not to mention that if twitter were the all encompassing political dynamic then Prime Minister Miliband would be sitting in 10 Downing Street.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
Face it, he can't win fair and square so claims it's rigged. Sad! All the swing states have Republican governors so if it's rigged without challenge it's on them.
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
For those of us who don't want to go down a Breitbart wormhole, what are the key allegations/revelations from Wikileaks?
I'm sorry Plato but in the sheer flood of links you post, I've never seen a smoking gun.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lib Dems were to do well in Witney, but nor will I be convinced until they actually do it. The party is not what it once was, I think that the potential bleed of voters to it from both Con and Lab will be finite, and think it quite possible that Labour will hold on to second place.
On a broadly related topic, was thinking about the whole Marmitegate silliness and the more serious concerns about food price inflation. Is there anything at all, as soon as the country is out of the customs union, to stop the Government from declaring unilateral free trade in food with the whole world (except of course the EU, which would be subjected to tariffs equal to those they're probably preparing to slap on us?) Should cause food prices to come back down significantly, generate a lot of good will in Can, Aus, NZ, US and many emerging countries. The low proportion of the UK workforce employed in agriculture should mean that the Government can afford to keep the less competitive producers in this country on life support using environmental subsidies, which is already effectively priced into the state budget as CAP payments have (I believe) been guaranteed until 2020.
Cheaper food could be worth more to lower income earners than whatever tax cuts or credits that the Government might be able to afford, and at little or no additional cost to the Exchequer.
Yes.
WTO MFN rules mean that selectively targeting a nation (or group) like that is illegal. We could unilaterally abolish all food tariffs (and I agree we should) but we would have to abolish tariffs for the EU too.
No. If they have imposed tariffs on our produce we are within our rights to reciprocate.
I am not advocating that we should. Just pointing out that it would not be against the WTO rules.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lib Dems were to do well in Witney, but nor will I be convinced until they actually do it. The party is not what it once was, I think that the potential bleed of voters to it from both Con and Lab will be finite, and think it quite possible that Labour will hold on to second place.
On a broadly related topic, was thinking about the whole Marmitegate silliness and the more serious concerns about food price inflation. Is there anything at all, as soon as the country is out of the customs union, to stop the Government from declaring unilateral free trade in food with the whole world (except of course the EU, which would be subjected to tariffs equal to those they're probably preparing to slap on us?) Should cause food prices to come back down significantly, generate a lot of good will in Can, Aus, NZ, US and many emerging countries. The low proportion of the UK workforce employed in agriculture should mean that the Government can afford to keep the less competitive producers in this country on life support using environmental subsidies, which is already effectively priced into the state budget as CAP payments have (I believe) been guaranteed until 2020.
Cheaper food could be worth more to lower income earners than whatever tax cuts or credits that the Government might be able to afford, and at little or no additional cost to the Exchequer.
Yes.
WTO MFN rules mean that selectively targeting a nation (or group) like that is illegal. We could unilaterally abolish all food tariffs (and I agree we should) but we would have to abolish tariffs for the EU too.
No. If they have imposed tariffs on our produce we are within our rights to reciprocate.
I am not advocating that we should. Just pointing out that it would not be against the WTO rules.
It's a bit more complicated than that!
I'm on my phone so don't have time to write a proper description of how the WTO takes and process work but will try to later.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
Hard for PB to ignore Wiki-Clinton with your assiduous posting not to mention that if twitter were the all encompassing political dynamic then Prime Minister Miliband would be sitting in 10 Downing Street.
TBH, your endless snarking and claiming to be a guru isn't edifying either.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
Russian Embassy UK Surprised to see many people write to us begging not to start a WW3. Dear UK media, please stop the war scare, seriously! https://t.co/KNear3I5Tr
So funny to see the turncoat McMillan-Scott appealing to Tory voters to remember the 'compassionate Conservatism' of David Cameron when it was because of Cameron he switched to the Lib Dems.
What a tosser.
It wasn't because of Cameron, but because of the pact with "the devil within" that Cameron had been forced to do to hold onto his job.
Cameron's second pact with the same devil did a lot more damage!
It is unfair to fault David Cameron for this one. It is the EU's anti-democratic rules which prevent financed groupings unless you meet certain thresholds such as X member-states with Y MEPs.
Nevertheless had Cameron not sold out to the nutters within, and stayed within the EPP, he might have had a bit more goodwill when he pitched up a few years later with his list of demands?
Stay within a grouping that was committed to political union in Europe? I think the your word nutter is referring to the wrong group in this discussion. The Tories left the nutters (apart from a few like McMillan-Scott who left of their own accord) when they departed the EPP.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
Russian Embassy UK Surprised to see many people write to us begging not to start a WW3. Dear UK media, please stop the war scare, seriously! https://t.co/KNear3I5Tr
So funny to see the turncoat McMillan-Scott appealing to Tory voters to remember the 'compassionate Conservatism' of David Cameron when it was because of Cameron he switched to the Lib Dems.
What a tosser.
It wasn't because of Cameron, but because of the pact with "the devil within" that Cameron had been forced to do to hold onto his job.
Cameron's second pact with the same devil did a lot more damage!
It is unfair to fault David Cameron for this one. It is the EU's anti-democratic rules which prevent financed groupings unless you meet certain thresholds such as X member-states with Y MEPs.
Nevertheless had Cameron not sold out to the nutters within, and stayed within the EPP, he might have had a bit more goodwill when he pitched up a few years later with his list of demands?
Stay within a grouping that was committed to political union in Europe? I think the your word nutter is referring to the wrong group in this discussion. The Tories left the nutters (apart from a few like McMillan-Scott who left of their own accord) when they departed the EPP.
It's like staying in a job you don't enjoy so you get on with the company better later. It's more of a gamble than leaving.
TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
Hard for PB to ignore Wiki-Clinton with your assiduous posting not to mention that if twitter were the all encompassing political dynamic then Prime Minister Miliband would be sitting in 10 Downing Street.
TBH, your endless snarking and claiming to be a guru isn't edifying either.
"The guy switched from Tory to LibDem because of the Tory antipathy to the EU, which is precisely the pitch he is making to Witney voters."
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
Where treason is afoot, Macmillan-Scott will be at the very root of it.
In terms of worst defectors in history, I'd place MacMillan-Scott up there with Quentin Davies, Guy Burgess, Kim Philby, Judas, and Mark Reckless.
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Lib Dems were to do well in Witney, but nor will I be convinced until they actually do it. The party is not what it once was, I think that the potential bleed of voters to it from both Con and Lab will be finite, and think it quite possible that Labour will hold on to second place.
On a broadly related topic, was thinking about the whole Marmitegate silliness and the more serious concerns about food price inflation. Is there anything at all, as soon as the country is out of the customs union, to stop the Government from declaring unilateral free trade in food with the whole world (except of course the EU, which would be subjected to tariffs equal to those they're probably preparing to slap on us?) Should cause food prices to come back down significantly, generate a lot of good will in Can, Aus, NZ, US and many emerging countries. The low proportion of the UK workforce employed in agriculture should mean that the Government can afford to keep the less competitive producers in this country on life support using environmental subsidies, which is already effectively priced into the state budget as CAP payments have (I believe) been guaranteed until 2020.
Cheaper food could be worth more to lower income earners than whatever tax cuts or credits that the Government might be able to afford, and at little or no additional cost to the Exchequer.
Yes.
WTO MFN rules mean that selectively targeting a nation (or group) like that is illegal. We could unilaterally abolish all food tariffs (and I agree we should) but we would have to abolish tariffs for the EU too.
No. If they have imposed tariffs on our produce we are within our rights to reciprocate.
I am not advocating that we should. Just pointing out that it would not be against the WTO rules.
It's a bit more complicated than that!
I'm on my phone so don't have time to write a proper description of how the WTO takes and process work but will try to later.
I was simplifying as I am busy too. But the basic premise is correct. The WTO does not expect countries to suffer under one sided tariffs without being able to retaliate.
Comments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNtD6mrkSZ0
Often such people will tell themselves stories as well: take a couple of facts, stitch them together into a story, and then suppose a motive of malice that fits their narrative.
https://www.ft.com/content/b945afac-6499-11e6-8310-ecf0bddad227
Now I happen to think we need to do more on childhood obesity (probably starting with parental education) but to criticise May for on one hand 'nanny statism' then on the other 'watering down guidelines' seems a bit confused....
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/hillaryinorange2016
I expect some divisions on the opposition benches as they weigh up their own views on Brexit, and their views on the future of the Labour party and its leadership, possibly with some limited triangulation against what Corbyn is doing.
In the House of Lords, I'd expect it to pass unless a very large chunk of crossbenchers decide to side with the Labour and Lib Dem Lords.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3839636/Footage-shows-Paris-covered-rubbish-left-African-migrants.html
Probably an improvement on Sheffield.
I, for one, am quite calm.
You posh public school boys need steadier nerves.....
The media clearly did not fact check these stories. They ran the stories no matter how farfetched they were. It is clear from the number of stories dropped in the last week that this was a coordinated effort, probably from inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. The goal was not to present facts to the public. Their goal was to destroy Donald Trump.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/list-debunked-groper-allegations-corrupt-media-donald-trump/
Strange, at work it's exactly the opposite.
The more they seem to learn of what Labour is turning into , the more they leap in any other direction.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/public-approval-george-osborne/
And this was before the 'Punishment Budget'.....
I'm not sure the story should be all about the food industry.
Osborne is quite clearly on manoeuvres, positioning himself as a leader-in-waiting in case May falls, even if I think he is mistaken to do so, and would be unlikely to benefit if she did.
It still makes the 200/1 on him being PM after the next GE with Skybet value, in my view.
These odds are well out of kilter with the 14/1 on him being next Conservative leader, even if he would have to win a GE by himself to make it pay out.
And by heck be careful about writing off Trump just yet: http://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-calls-for-drug-test-before-next-presidential-debate-10618993
I think he'll lose because he'll lose women but I'm far from convinced this is now a shoo-in.
Under-estimate Trump at your peril.
Wikileaks emails - allegedly from John #Podesta's inbox. https://t.co/anf7hJZ3n3
Media war
Even my partner, who hates Trump, said she thought this was all looking a bit suspiciously conspiratorial. You've got to admit the sudden flood of allegations, timed to the point where he has no time to refute them, is a tad suspicious? That the media are generally totally opposed to Trump is beyond doubt.
Oh wait ....
"If Britain says no, it can't get full access to the European single market," she said."
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/britain-cant-full-single-market-access-free-movement-122452993.html
My emphasis.
That says to me that there may be partial access to the European single market for partial free movement, and budget payments.
My gut instinct tells me that the line of negotiation here might look like free movement for high-skilled EU workers, with a job offer, plus £4-6 billion of EU budget payments a year in exchange for some services and financial services access, but not all.
Well, that's what the member states might try to come to some agreement upon. Give or take.
The EU institutions will try to push for hard Brexit, or no Brexit, in my view. And the whole thing could still collapse into a hard Brexit - but probably including free trade in goods, which sholdn't be a problem to agree - if there is no agreement by default.
A relative of mine made a lot of money after the war buying surplus engines and using them in plant. In a similar manner, a company making plant compressors (sadly I can't recall the make (1)) started off using such surplus engines after the war.
Now for a bit more recent history. Sometime after the first Gulf War, a ship arrived in Liverpool loaded with kit that had been sent down, not used, and returned. It was all sold off, after which the ship itself was auctioned.
(1) Edit: I think it was Hydrovane.
(Hat tip to the News Quiz)
Together, they both would, as it would offer the chance to gauge how politics had since shifted in Remainia and Leaverstan.
This incredible. Mayor @BilldeBlasio called for firing of NY Elections Commissioner we caught on tape. We're turning them against each other
That's the Demo guy taped talking about vote fraud
Wikileaks
Hillary Clinton: "I want to defend fracking." Climate change environmentalists should "Get a life," #PodestaEmails8 https://t.co/DFENUuO5Fr
Getting a 180-deg turn-around in culture like that is far from easy.
(And good evening, everyone)
I don't think so. MacMillan Scott was expelled from the Conservative party in 2009 for trying to sabotage David Cameron's strategy to reform the EU - the creation of the "European Conservatives and Reformists" group (ECR) - by standing against the candidate the ECR, and his fellow Conservative MEPs, had agreed to support. He then joined the Lib/Dems in 2010.
Even before his expulsion, and all the more so after it, he has consistently and publicly been extremely critical of David Cameron.
So when he wrote this week to the electors of Witney that "the kind of compassionate Conservatism championed by David Cameron is being thrown away" as if he had been a supporter of their former MP when he was nothing of the kind, his letter looks to me like an attempt to trick supporters of his former party into voting for the one he has been a member of for the past six years under false pretences.
There is also a pattern of behaviour with him that is just odd, and ofcouse that doesn't make him guilty but in the absence of have any time for a trial before the election voters have to decide if they trust him. Hmmm.
Con 40% : Lab 32% : UKIP 11% : LD 9% : SNP 5% : Grn 4%
Actual quote is "I want to defend fracking under the right circumstances."
ComRes have said they aren't doing VI polls for the time being, what you are posting is voter ID, not voter intention.
Please stop doing this. These figures generally overestimate Labour and underestimate the Tories.
https://www.wikileaks.org/podesta-emails//fileid/9617/2478
Needed to be said, though.
Is there a particular reason ComRes are not doing VIs?
*Well they were the most accurate** pollster at the GE
**Well least inaccurate pollster
US media out of sync with audience demand. Interest in WikiLeaks (blue) vs Trump sex allegations https://t.co/ZQ8ezJIG1W TBH, I find the PB almost total ignoring of this bizarre. It's weird lalaland stuff.
I've seen stuff with 35k retweets in hours - it's huge. And the biggest cable news station Fox is covering all the ugly stuff whilst relative minnow CNN handwaves.
I can only assume most PBers don't or aren't willing to get it. Strange but clearly true.
I've only about 2.3k followers on Twitter and US ones are going berserk.
I am beginning to suspect that might quite well describe Theresa May...
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — Hillary Clinton’s campaign made it perfectly clear that this entire election is a big battle over the Supreme Court and Obamacare, according to the Wikileaks’ dump of John Podesta’s emails.
Hillary Clinton friend and informal adviser Neera Tanden wrote to campaign colleagues about “King v. Burwell,” the big case about whether or not Obamacare is constitutional, which progressives were concerned about.
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/14/hillary-campaign-we-will-make-the-election-a-supreme-court-war-over-obamacare/
I'm sorry Plato but in the sheer flood of links you post, I've never seen a smoking gun.
Who cares? Why is this allegedly scandalous or even interesting?
I am not advocating that we should. Just pointing out that it would not be against the WTO rules.
If Wikileaks had the emails from Trump/The RNC, they'd be saying the exact same thing.
Winning the Presidency allows you to appoint Supreme Court justices to decide stuff like this.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/15/donald-trump-accuses-hillary-clinton-of-taking-drugs-before-deba/
I'm on my phone so don't have time to write a proper description of how the WTO takes and process work but will try to later.
Golly, did I just criticise a PB Sacred Cow?
Surprised to see many people write to us begging not to start a WW3. Dear UK media, please stop the war scare, seriously! https://t.co/KNear3I5Tr
Edit: I'm being a bit harsh by having Judas in that list, after all he had the decency to hang himself after his betrayal.
https://twitter.com/mongo_ebooks/status/786182161711849472
It's difficult to recognize this Plato with the much admired and PB award winning poster of yesteryear. You've gone from POTY to potty.
Quite sad.