The National Rifle Association's TV ad campaign featuring Kristi McMains, who successfully used the pistol she was carrying in her handbag to fight off a knife attacker who tried to abduct her, may do wonders for Trump. Especially if it synergises with his shtick in the second debate.
it would if clinton wanted to ban all guns. And if the crazy people who care werent already voting trump
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
Oh God. lol
The "Minister for Women and Equalities" is a known and admitted spouse-beater. She's so in favour of "equality" she used to beat up her husband, to get one back for the wimmin
Do I hear the phrase Metropolitan Elite.....I can see that going down well in Stoke and Sunderland.
I'm not sure Labour voters in Stoke are really annoyed about London MP's being in the shadow cabinet and not Tristram Hunt.
Engage brain lad....
The point is that they are more annoyed in Stoke about Hunt being their MP than the shadow cabinet reshuffle.
But it plays into the whole narrative. The outlook will be, not only do we have some Southern posho representing us, if we vote Labour we get the whole bloody load of Londeners running the country and they are all pro unlimited immigration. It like the bloody Tories, but even the Tories want to cut back on the immigration.
One of the smart things Blair did was to bring the likes of Prescott in. He is an idiot, but it allowed them to say hey we have some proper normal Northern working class class sitting around the cabinet table.
"idiot" equals "proper normal Northern working class"?
Don't be a dick. Prescott = idiot not the wider demographic, are you arguing that isn't the case? Plenty of posho idiots.
But it is not the moral of the story. And what is the truth about Brexit? Clue, no-one knows. But a lot of people are crying wolf.
And a lot of people are saying 'Look, there's no wolf!', when the prediction was that the wolf would appear some time in the next couple of years.
LOL.
This reminds me of when I was in Geneva at the negotiations drafting the Chemical Weapons Convention. I made the error of saying in an intervention that "there are many ways to skin a cat." Of course, as this was a working group without simultaneous interpretation, I had to explain myself. For the next several months, every delegate for whom English was not the mother tongue seemed to bend over backwards to use another cat metaphor or simile.
When in the USA with my then USA citizen girlfriend we were at a party of her fellow students one evening.
They were discussing a fellow female student who had decided to go to Alaska. They reckoned she was into hairy bearded men and would enjoy the ratio to much laughter. I interjected that she might be out of luck as most of them would probably prefer the sheep.
No laughter, silence, tumbleweed.....
There are actually sheep in Alaska and men do go there sheep hunting, but alas the 'Flossie is that you' double meaning hasnt crossed the atlantic where things are a littie more puritanical.
Baaaa.
In Dartmoor in the summer I realised that sheep don't say Baa they say Meh!
Meh! Meh! Mehhhhh!
It's seriously quite startling when you see it that way (and Meh is closer to the sound they make than Baa).
Suddenly it feels like an entire species is looking at you and snorting with derision, and contempt, rather than stupidly bleating. Makes you quite self conscious.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
With black gay men maybe, with the others I doubt it.
Don't forget the electorate responds like a female on a date, I wonder what Trump did when dating.
all the polls say trump is doing much worse with all segments of american society except for white men without a college degree. So i have no idea where this fantasy of african americans flocking to his side comes from, especially as trump is king birther and a massive racist
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
Oh God. lol
The "Minister for Women and Equalities" is a known and admitted spouse-beater. She's so in favour of "equality" she used to beat up her husband, to get one back for the wimmin
Shami Shadow Attorney General - what was that Theresa May said yesterday about left wing human rights lawyers. Amazing how someone who has gone from generally respected to someone who is evasive and sends her child to a private school. Hypocrisy doesn't come close
Shabby Chakrabarti.......
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
I do not share the same derision for her you do, admittedly, and though she mostly acquitted herself well vs Neil, I found her explanation as to accepting a peerage and joining Labour now to be weak. She says she has been offered honours before, and I am sure that is true, and that she has fought for all manner of rights for years too (many would agree, though some do not), which makes it hard for me to square that with her explanation that she felt to truly help the party change and tackle its problems she felt she should join. Because she made a point to stress it isn't only Labour with such issues, which is true, so why couldn't she remain a respected mostly non-partisan figure and challenge those issues wherever they may be?
But it is not the moral of the story. And what is the truth about Brexit? Clue, no-one knows. But a lot of people are crying wolf.
And a lot of people are saying 'Look, there's no wolf!', when the prediction was that the wolf would appear some time in the next couple of years.
There are actually sheep in Alaska and men do go there sheep hunting, but alas the 'Flossie is that you' double meaning hasnt crossed the atlantic where things are a littie more puritanical. .
Truly, we are alien to each other if such rural mockery is not universal.
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
Oh God. lol
The "Minister for Women and Equalities" is a known and admitted spouse-beater. She's so in favour of "equality" she used to beat up her husband, to get one back for the wimmin
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
As they have no connection with Hillary as they did with Obama
but trump has been attacking obama for years as king birther and is a massive racist.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I went to a talk he gave a few years ago about his time in New Labour. It was an interesting and entertaining talk (i.e. he was honest) and it was quite obvious that at the time he had had no scruples whatsoever. However he did claim to be a reformed character after his sacking; now I guess comes the test of how true that might be.
JohnO and I just sank a very pleasant couple of pints together and had a Thai curry.
Not sure I care about Labour's #jokeshuffle.
I hope you put him.back on the right train
He is a loyal Conservative.
And reassuringly small "c" conservative as well!
Fortunately, Casino was travelling back on the same train as me (and I think I espied him and his good lady in the first carriage too - the same as mine - so he was also 'impelling'me to alight at the correct station as well.
Great evening and he's a splendid chap, far too tolerant of my divers musings and ramblings.
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
I do wonder where the cuts could possibly come from, since we've already seen the government lacks the numbers to push through more welfare cuts, I doubt health will be touched (it is, naturally, in crisis and desperately in need of more money again), international development won't plug many holes, and defence surely has nothing left to cull. Even easy and popular targets like local government have already been reduced massively, so what big budget area can May manage to get people to accept cuts in?
Try and organize a charity bake sale and the council will be all over your arse like a rash...want a Neo-Nazi event however...
Hundreds of people attended a neo-Nazi rally that was not opposed by police in the belief it was a charity event. About 350 people attended the rally on the anniversary of the death of Ian Stuart Donaldson, who founded white supremacist group Blood and Honour.
But Cambridgeshire Police said the force had been told the Haddenham gathering on 23 and 24 September was in aid of Help for Heroes.
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
also, most women think (rightly) that Trump is a sexist pig
Shami is a good and worthy person....that is now massively tainted by running an independent inquiry for someone that then ennobled her and put her in their cabinet. If that was in the city pages of Private Eye it would end with "trebles all round!".
She is not a good and worthy person.
She is someone who:-
- thought it ok when a trustee of the LSE to accept money from the Ghaddaffi family - did not speak up for free speech when Geert Wilders was banned from the UK, a ban subsequently overturned by the courts - did not speak up for people like Maajid Nawaz when he was being threatened by Islamists for tweeting a cartoon - praised a senior CAGE (CAGE FFS!!!) person as a great advocate for human rights - has utterly failed to get to grips with the reason why anti-Semitism is now a real problem in the Labour party, not least because she has forgotten Lesson No 1 - "the fish rots from the head". There would be no problem with this in Labour if its leader did not himself have a long history of consorting with anti-semites and if he took the issue seriously.
Her understanding of civil liberties is superficial and her understanding of the threat to them even worse. She talks in superficial soundbites and I would no more entrust my civil liberties to her than I would to my cat.
Labour with their slide into authoritarianism under Blair and their current love for every sort of anti-Western and anti-liberal terrorist and other organization is probably one of the greatest threats to our civil liberties, should they ever get power.
And that threat is recognized by some in Labour, people with a greater moral sense than Shabby C.
As a former Labour councillor in Portsmouth said: "I cannot advocate to voters that they elect a Labour Government with Jeremy Corbyn at the helm. Indeed, I would be morally obliged to campaign against any administration that included Corbyn and John McDonnell, given my belief that they would seriously imperil our nation's national security if ever given the reins of power."
Mind you, it simply echoes what Jeff (now Lord) Rooker said last year at the time of the Syria bombing vote.
"My party leader cannot be accused, like the prime minister, of misleading anyone. He has never, to my knowledge, agreed to protect the realm, the British way of life, or western liberal democracies – and he won't."
Chakrabarti has sold such credibility as she had for a mess of pottage in the Lords.
She has taken Corbyn's shilling but Corbyn must be regretting it, she was his for free. I daresay he's oiling up his motorbike.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I went to a talk he gave a few years ago about his time in New Labour. It was an interesting and entertaining talk (i.e. he was honest) and it was quite obvious that at the time he had had no scruples whatsoever. However he did claim to be a reformed character after his sacking; now I guess comes the test of how true that might be.
That is interesting. Did he say what had caused him to re-think his ways/reform his character?
JohnO and I just sank a very pleasant couple of pints together and had a Thai curry.
Not sure I care about Labour's #jokeshuffle.
I hope you put him.back on the right train
He is a loyal Conservative.
And reassuringly small "c" conservative as well!
Fortunately, Casino was travelling back on the same train as me (and I think I espied him and his good lady in the first carriage too - the same as mine - so he was also 'impelling'me to alight at the correct station as well.
Great evening and he's a splendid chap, far too tolerant of my divers musings and ramblings.
Ah, my apologies - didn't see you!
Likewise: a thoroughly enjoyable and splendid evening, in very fine company. We must do it more often :-)
Did any of these newly appointed shadow ministers, quit the Shadow cabinet before or resin vote against him in the vote of confidence?
I'm trying to work out if he is just rearranging his handful of loyal supporters, enticing some of the doubters back in to a 'medium size tent' at least?
@SkyNewsBreak: Jonathan Reynolds has been appointed Shadow Economic Secretary to Treasury & is the first ex-frontbencher to return after resigning in June
His seat (Stalybridge and Hyde) is being abolished. Part of it is going into a much changed Ashton-under-Lyne seat (currently held by Angela Rayner mentioned in the thread header) and the other part is going into the new Marple and Hyde seat. The rest of that seat is coming from the currently Tory held seat of Hazel Grove.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Still look on the bright side, the next generation of wouldbe business leaders who will steer our country through post-Brexit seas is about to start their auditions on The Apprentice....
It won't topple her, it was bequethed her by Brown and Osborne and Brexit, in any case she has made quite clear she is in no rush to slash the deficit beyond efforts already made and it will be gradually reduced over her premiership and well beyond the next election
Do I hear the phrase Metropolitan Elite.....I can see that going down well in Stoke and Sunderland.
I'm not sure Labour voters in Stoke are really annoyed about London MP's being in the shadow cabinet and not Tristram Hunt.
Engage brain lad....
The point is that they are more annoyed in Stoke about Hunt being their MP than the shadow cabinet reshuffle.
But it plays into the whole narrative. The outlook will be, not only do we have some Southern posho representing us, if we vote Labour we get the whole bloody load of Londeners running the country and they are all pro unlimited immigration. It like the bloody Tories, but even the Tories want to cut back on the immigration.
One of the smart things Blair did was to bring the likes of Prescott in. He is an idiot, but it allowed them to say hey we have some proper normal Northern working class class sitting around the cabinet table.
"idiot" equals "proper normal Northern working class"?
Don't be a dick. Prescott = idiot not the wider demographic, are you arguing that isn't the case? Plenty of posho idiots.
very eloquent and properly constructed, unlike your post.
Still look on the bright side, the next generation of wouldbe business leaders who will steer our country through post-Brexit seas is about to start their auditions on The Apprentice....
No serious person would go on that show for the original £100k a year and have to work with SuuurrAllunnn...and now with the reboot only get £250k investment.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
With black gay men maybe, with the others I doubt it.
Don't forget the electorate responds like a female on a date, I wonder what Trump did when dating.
all the polls say trump is doing much worse with all segments of american society except for white men without a college degree. So i have no idea where this fantasy of african americans flocking to his side comes from, especially as trump is king birther and a massive racist
You are the most relentless stater of the bleeding obvious currently in business.
Clintons 2008 campaign plugged birtherism for all it was worth. That is not in dispute: all the rebuttals I have seen on the subject rebut trump's claim that she *invented* birtherism, no one denies that she took it up and ran with it. Not that she said Obama was "not Muslim *as far as she knew*".
I do wonder where the cuts could possibly come from, since we've already seen the government lacks the numbers to push through more welfare cuts, I doubt health will be touched (it is, naturally, in crisis and desperately in need of more money again), international development won't plug many holes, and defence surely has nothing left to cull. Even easy and popular targets like local government have already been reduced massively, so what big budget area can May manage to get people to accept cuts in?
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
But I call them that because I'm an old duffer around from when there wasn't the pictorial depictions.
I wish we could go back to the 70's.....3 TV channels, all closing off at 12.00, Happy Days, Grease, Jaws, no Internet, bowl head haircuts, advacado bathrooms and space invaders
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
Oh God. lol
The "Minister for Women and Equalities" is a known and admitted spouse-beater. She's so in favour of "equality" she used to beat up her husband, to get one back for the wimmin
We 'discussed' this when that story broke a couple of weeks ago. I'm hoping I remember correctly, that Nick thought she was okay because she'd ben very helpful on animal welfare issues.
Animal welfare being important; husband welfare ... less so.
I do wonder where the cuts could possibly come from, since we've already seen the government lacks the numbers to push through more welfare cuts, I doubt health will be touched (it is, naturally, in crisis and desperately in need of more money again), international development won't plug many holes, and defence surely has nothing left to cull. Even easy and popular targets like local government have already been reduced massively, so what big budget area can May manage to get people to accept cuts in?
Seems like the first step is out of grasp for the moment - recognising things cannot continue on as they are, kicking the can, and knuckling down to take a hard decision.
Shami Shadow Attorney General - what was that Theresa May said yesterday about left wing human rights lawyers. Amazing how someone who has gone from generally respected to someone who is evasive and sends her child to a private school. Hypocrisy doesn't come close
Shabby Chakrabarti.......
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
I do not share the same derision for her you do, admittedly, and though she mostly acquitted herself well vs Neil, I found her explanation as to accepting a peerage and joining Labour now to be weak. She says she has been offered honours before, and I am sure that is true, and that she has fought for all manner of rights for years too (many would agree, though some do not), which makes it hard for me to square that with her explanation that she felt to truly help the party change and tackle its problems she felt she should join. Because she made a point to stress it isn't only Labour with such issues, which is true, so why couldn't she remain a respected mostly non-partisan figure and challenge those issues wherever they may be?
She has not fought for the rights of people who are unpopular e.g. Wilders or Nawaz. She has fought for those rights which are fashionable against those who are seen as wicked. In short, the reason I deride the depth of her commitment to civil rights is that it is far too ad hominem. It seems far too swayed by fashion rather than a deep understanding of principle. And now she joins a party like Labour under a leader whose attachment to the very principles underlying the concept of human rights and civil liberties is tenuous at best. Give me a break!
The American Civil Liberties Union, for instance, is far far more willing to stand up for the principles espoused in the Constitution, even when it involves defending hugely dislikeable people such as the Klu Klux Klan.
I do not respect her because I see someone whose understanding is superficial, who is not really very bright, who has not thought deeply about the challenges to liberalism and human rights from those who use such rights as a sword to undermine their very existence and whose actions demonstrate poor judgment when she was tested.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I went to a talk he gave a few years ago about his time in New Labour. It was an interesting and entertaining talk (i.e. he was honest) and it was quite obvious that at the time he had had no scruples whatsoever. However he did claim to be a reformed character after his sacking; now I guess comes the test of how true that might be.
That is interesting. Did he say what had caused him to re-think his ways/reform his character?
I have a vague recollection be became quite religious, but to be honest i can't remember. He did write everything up in his book "Power Trip" which I see has good reviews on Amazon.
Shami Shadow Attorney General - what was that Theresa May said yesterday about left wing human rights lawyers. Amazing how someone who has gone from generally respected to someone who is evasive and sends her child to a private school. Hypocrisy doesn't come close
Shabby Chakrabarti.......
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
I do not share the same derision for her you do, admittedly, and though she mostly acquitted herself well vs Neil, I found her explanation as to accepting a peerage and joining Labour now to be weak. She says she has been offered honours before, and I am sure that is true, and that she has fought for all manner of rights for years too (many would agree, though some do not), which makes it hard for me to square that with her explanation that she felt to truly help the party change and tackle its problems she felt she should join. Because she made a point to stress it isn't only Labour with such issues, which is true, so why couldn't she remain a respected mostly non-partisan figure and challenge those issues wherever they may be?
She has not fought for the rights of people who are unpopular e.g. Wilders or Nawaz. She has fought for those rights which are fashionable against those who are seen as wicked. In short, the reason I deride the depth of her commitment to civil rights is that it is far too ad hominem. It seems far too swayed by fashion rather than a deep understanding of principle. And now she joins a party like Labour under a leader whose attachment to the very principles underlying the concept of human rights and civil liberties is tenuous at best. Give me a break!
The American Civil Liberties Union, for instance, is far far more willing to stand up for the principles espoused in the Constitution, even when it involves defending hugely dislikeable people such as the Klu Klux Klan.
I do not respect her because I see someone whose understanding is superficial, who is not really very bright, who has not thought deeply about the challenges to liberalism and human rights from those who use such rights as a sword to undermine their very existence and whose actions demonstrate poor judgment when she was tested.
I take your point - I was merely suggesting that she was, by and large, regarded with respect, whether or not you feel that is deserved, and she could have continued to be viewed in the same light much more widely across the spectrum than she is now, because she put being a Corbynista fan above a coherent stance.
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
More mutterings from a few members I've been speaking to today. I think people understand the electoral appeal, but are wary of statism, which is what TMay seems to be offering. Not the happiest bunch on domestic policy, middling on Brexit. Harder to get a read on the reaction to the Brexit plan because there are so many contradictions. But definitely a lot of unease about the domestic policy ideas put forwards in Birmingham.
To sum up the mood, I'd say - we'll be in power for 20 years implementing Labour's policies.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
With black gay men maybe, with the others I doubt it.
Don't forget the electorate responds like a female on a date, I wonder what Trump did when dating.
all the polls say trump is doing much worse with all segments of american society except for white men without a college degree. So i have no idea where this fantasy of african americans flocking to his side comes from, especially as trump is king birther and a massive racist
You are the most relentless stater of the bleeding obvious currently in business.
Clintons 2008 campaign plugged birtherism for all it was worth. That is not in dispute: all the rebuttals I have seen on the subject rebut trump's claim that she *invented* birtherism, no one denies that she took it up and ran with it. Not that she said Obama was "not Muslim *as far as she knew*".
so we ignore Trump banging on about the last 8 years?
It won't topple her, it was bequethed her by Brown and Osborne and Brexit, in any case she has made quite clear she is in no rush to slash the deficit beyond efforts already made and it will be gradually reduced over her premiership and well beyond the next election
The Remainer Resistance pulling out economic "forecasts" ....
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
But I call them that because I'm an old duffer around from when there wasn't the pictorial depictions.
I wish we could go back to the 70's.....3 TV channels, all closing off at 12.00, Happy Days, Grease, Jaws, no Internet, bowl head haircuts, advacado bathrooms and space invaders
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
Dream on, treacherous Remainer scumbag (etc etc), Theresa May is on course for a huge election victory. You may despise her smalltown Christian values, but she's a canny politician. Her bid for the WWC UKIP and lower middle class centrist vote was superbly done. Almost Machiavellian.
I predict that - barring a total Brexit apocalypse - she will eclipse your hero Cameron. Indeed, given that he is now regarded like Lord North, she already has.
I'm not so sure, see my post just now. A lot of muttering.
Another piercing comment - when did we become the party of the working classes, we're supposed to be the party that helps the working class become middle class.
Still look on the bright side, the next generation of wouldbe business leaders who will steer our country through post-Brexit seas is about to start their auditions on The Apprentice....
No serious person would go on that show for the original £100k a year and have to work with SuuurrAllunnn...and now with the reboot only get £250k investment.
The boss of a company I worked for was founded by one of Sugar's acolytes, though I believe they detest each other now.
This guy could sell anything to anyone; yet he is canny enough to let engineers he trusts reign in his (ahem) sometimes exuberant ideas.
I've got a lot of respect for him. I don't particularly like Sugar's public persona, but if hes anything like this bloke, then he'd be a good man to work for.
Shami Shadow Attorney General - what was that Theresa May said yesterday about left wing human rights lawyers. Amazing how someone who has gone from generally respected to someone who is evasive and sends her child to a private school. Hypocrisy doesn't come close
Shabby Chakrabarti.......
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
I do not share the same derision for her you do, admittedly, and though she mostly acquitted herself well vs Neil, I found her explanation as to accepting a peerage and joining Labour now to be weak. She says she has been offered honours before, and I am sure that is true, and that she has fought for all manner of rights for years too (many would agree, though some do not), which makes it hard for me to square that with her explanation that she felt to truly help the party change and tackle its problems she felt she should join. Because she made a point to stress it isn't only Labour with such issues, which is true, so why couldn't she remain a respected mostly non-partisan figure and challenge those issues wherever they may be?
She has not fought for the rights of people who are unpopular e.g. Wilders or Nawaz. She has fought for those rights which are fashionable against those who are seen as wicked. In short, the reason I deride the depth of her commitment to civil rights is that it is far too ad hominem. It seems far too swayed by fashion rather than a deep understanding of principle. And now she joins a party like Labour under a leader whose attachment to the very principles underlying the concept of human rights and civil liberties is tenuous at best. Give me a break!
The American Civil Liberties Union, for instance, is far far more willing to stand up for the principles espoused in the Constitution, even when it involves defending hugely dislikeable people such as the Klu Klux Klan.
I do not respect her because I see someone whose understanding is superficial, who is not really very bright, who has not thought deeply about the challenges to liberalism and human rights from those who use such rights as a sword to undermine their very existence and whose actions demonstrate poor judgment when she was tested.
She is quite fit though (if you like little boy types) and I think the old duffer Jezza can be easily prick teased....
On the whole though I try and keep my arguments high brow......Apart from Emoticons
It won't topple her, it was bequethed her by Brown and Osborne and Brexit, in any case she has made quite clear she is in no rush to slash the deficit beyond efforts already made and it will be gradually reduced over her premiership and well beyond the next election
The Remainer Resistance pulling out economic "forecasts" ....
Indeed, Brexit put immigration controls ahead of the economy anyway
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
Dream on, treacherous Remainer scumbag (etc etc), Theresa May is on course for a huge election victory. You may despise her smalltown Christian values, but she's a canny politician. Her bid for the WWC UKIP and lower middle class centrist vote was superbly done. Almost Machiavellian.
I predict that - barring a total Brexit apocalypse - she will eclipse your hero Cameron. Indeed, given that he is now regarded like Lord North, she already has.
If May stays in No 10 until 2025 she will have been PM for 9 years, eclipsing Cameron's 6 and becoming the second longest serving postwar Tory PM after Thatcher and the third longest overall after Blair
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I went to a talk he gave a few years ago about his time in New Labour. It was an interesting and entertaining talk (i.e. he was honest) and it was quite obvious that at the time he had had no scruples whatsoever. However he did claim to be a reformed character after his sacking; now I guess comes the test of how true that might be.
That is interesting. Did he say what had caused him to re-think his ways/reform his character?
I have a vague recollection be became quite religious, but to be honest i can't remember. He did write everything up in his book "Power Trip" which I see has good reviews on Amazon.
Here's a customer review of his book (which I haven't read) that I think sums things up:
"At face value, this is a confessional work by a repentant man who regrets the many sins he committed while close to the centre of power. McBride appears to be candid about his problems with alcohol, his failed relationships, his manipulation of national news, his use of half-truths and occasional inventions, his irresponsibility and lack of care for the individuals on the receiving end of his schemes, his flirtations with illegality, and yet...and yet I couldn't help thinking of that scene in the musical Guys and Dolls, when the gangsters are called to testify at the Salvation Army, feigning sincere contrition for the benefit of their leader, Sky Masterson, who won them in a dice game. McBride would make an excellent Nicely Nicely Johnson. Whether he really has had a sobering revelation and has chosen to confess faithfully, or whether this is simply a Mea Culpa designed to exculpate other senior figures in the then Labour government for their parts in the dishonesty he describes, is left for the reader to decide."
So jezzas shadow cabinet now has in addition to the likes of the terrorist sympathizers and racists, somebody who beats their husband & a person who fakes letters from the president of the us.
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
Dream on, treacherous Remainer scumbag (etc etc), Theresa May is on course for a huge election victory. You may despise her smalltown Christian values, but she's a canny politician. Her bid for the WWC UKIP and lower middle class centrist vote was superbly done. Almost Machiavellian.
I predict that - barring a total Brexit apocalypse - she will eclipse your hero Cameron. Indeed, given that he is now regarded like Lord North, she already has.
I'm not so sure, see my post just now. A lot of muttering.
Another piercing comment - when did we become the party of the working classes, we're supposed to be the party that helps the working class become middle class.
Polling today from yougov shows backing even for her policy of companies publishing lists of foreign workers, the fact a few Tory libertarians may dislike it is largely irrelevant, they have nowhere else to go other than UKIP or the Orange Book LDs
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
Dream on, treacherous Remainer scumbag (etc etc), Theresa May is on course for a huge election victory. You may despise her smalltown Christian values, but she's a canny politician. Her bid for the WWC UKIP and lower middle class centrist vote was superbly done. Almost Machiavellian.
I predict that - barring a total Brexit apocalypse - she will eclipse your hero Cameron. Indeed, given that he is now regarded like Lord North, she already has.
If May stays in No 10 until 2025 she will have been PM for 9 years, eclipsing Cameron's 6 and becoming the second longest serving postwar Tory PM after Thatcher and the third longest overall after Blair
Both posts way too premature. The only basis for such predictions right now is the current state of the opposition. But May is in her honeymoon - at the same point Brown was being received as a refreshing return to sobriety in politics with commentators suggesting that if he went for an election he would win. How quickly things change!
The test of any PM comes along with their almost-inevitable unpopularity.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
you know rassumen is an utter crock of shit and completely useless as an accurate pollster? they had maccain beatimg obama 8 years ago ffs a day before the election!
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
you know rassumen is an utter crock of shit and completely useless as an accurate pollster? they had maccain beatimg obama 8 years ago ffs a day before the election!
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
More mutterings from a few members I've been speaking to today. I think people understand the electoral appeal, but are wary of statism, which is what TMay seems to be offering. Not the happiest bunch on domestic policy, middling on Brexit. Harder to get a read on the reaction to the Brexit plan because there are so many contradictions. But definitely a lot of unease about the domestic policy ideas put forwards in Birmingham.
To sum up the mood, I'd say - we'll be in power for 20 years implementing Labour's policies.
TMay is the Blair of the Tory party (which Cameron wanted to be). Discuss. She will take them to centre, and generate prosperity, and guarantee them 400 years in office, but she will be hated by her own party....
Actually, I don't buy it. Libertarian capitalist activists and bankers won't like her, but average Tory members and voters will.
The acid test for me is Heathrow. If she greenlights that, then I know she is prepared to make difficult, pro-capitalist decisions for the long term benefit of the economy. And I will relax.
I think you have to remember that the party isn't a Christian Democratic one, it is a Conservative one with a history of liberal economics. Shifting that bloc towards statist solutions is not going to be easy. I know my couple of hundred quid a year probably doesn't mean very much but there are a lit of big donors who think the same way as I do and will need a lot of convincing on statism. I'm open to it, but Tory members are mostly opposed to increasing the power of the state, I don't think that's only the libertarian capitalist types either.
On Heathrow, I think she's going to give both the go ahead and goce Gatwick enough rope to hang themselves.
It won't topple her, it was bequethed her by Brown and Osborne and Brexit, in any case she has made quite clear she is in no rush to slash the deficit beyond efforts already made and it will be gradually reduced over her premiership and well beyond the next election
Hammond will be toppled. If he tries to reproduce an Osborne budget he will reproduce Osborne's results and get fired.
I'm pretty sure an Omnishambles budget will be used by May to remove him.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
you know rassumen is an utter crock of shit and completely useless as an accurate pollster? they had maccain beatimg obama 8 years ago ffs a day before the election!
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
But I call them that because I'm an old duffer around from when there wasn't the pictorial depictions.
I wish we could go back to the 70's.....3 TV channels, all closing off at 12.00, Happy Days, Grease, Jaws, no Internet, bowl head haircuts, advacado bathrooms and space invaders
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
More mutterings from a few members I've been speaking to today. I think people understand the electoral appeal, but are wary of statism, which is what TMay seems to be offering. Not the happiest bunch on domestic policy, middling on Brexit. Harder to get a read on the reaction to the Brexit plan because there are so many contradictions. But definitely a lot of unease about the domestic policy ideas put forwards in Birmingham.
To sum up the mood, I'd say - we'll be in power for 20 years implementing Labour's policies.
TMay is the Blair of the Tory party (which Cameron wanted to be). Discuss. She will take them to centre, and generate prosperity, and guarantee them 400 years in office, but she will be hated by her own party....
Actually, I don't buy it. Libertarian capitalist activists and bankers won't like her, but average Tory members and voters will.
The acid test for me is Heathrow. If she greenlights that, then I know she is prepared to make difficult, pro-capitalist decisions for the long term benefit of the economy. And I will relax.
I think you have to remember that the party isn't a Christian Democratic one, it is a Conservative one with a history of liberal economics. Shifting that bloc towards statist solutions is not going to be easy. I know my couple of hundred quid a year probably doesn't mean very much but there are a lit of big donors who think the same way as I do and will need a lot of convincing on statism. I'm open to it, but Tory members are mostly opposed to increasing the power of the state, I don't think that's only the libertarian capitalist types either.
On Heathrow, I think she's going to give both the go ahead and goce Gatwick enough rope to hang themselves.
Wrong actually, Disraeli, Chamberlain Macmillan, Heath, maybe Major were more Christian Democratic than they were liberal on economics. The Liberal Party has a longer history of support for laissez-faire if you go back to the 19th century than the Tory Party. May can afford to lose a few rich donors as with Corbyn as an alternative there will be dozens to take their place and as long as she hits her target audience of the suburban lower middle and skilled working classes
Well if that happened at least you would get a remainer in the Home Office as you seem to want, shame it would be Diane Abbott.
The Tories are ruthless, Mrs May would be toppled well before she was on course to lose a general election to Mr Corbyn.
Dream on, treacherous Remainer scumbag (etc etc), Theresa May is on course for a huge election victory. You may despise her smalltown Christian values, but she's a canny politician. Her bid for the WWC UKIP and lower middle class centrist vote was superbly done. Almost Machiavellian.
I predict that - barring a total Brexit apocalypse - she will eclipse your hero Cameron. Indeed, given that he is now regarded like Lord North, she already has.
If May stays in No 10 until 2025 she will have been PM for 9 years, eclipsing Cameron's 6 and becoming the second longest serving postwar Tory PM after Thatcher and the third longest overall after Blair
Both posts way too premature. The only basis for such predictions right now is the current state of the opposition. But May is in her honeymoon - at the same point Brown was being received as a refreshing return to sobriety in politics with commentators suggesting that if he went for an election he would win. How quickly things change!
The test of any PM comes along with their almost-inevitable unpopularity.
Brown was facing Cameron not Corbyn and never really matched the approval ratings May is now getting, he also took over after 10 years not 6
I'm going to sleep well in my bed tonight thinking that Diane Abbott could be the next Home Secretary.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
Tyson Fury? Is that you after a bottle and a half of wine?
It's him after you use an emoticon in a reply to one of his posts...
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
you know rassumen is an utter crock of shit and completely useless as an accurate pollster? they had maccain beatimg obama 8 years ago ffs a day before the election!
Rasmussen's final 2008 poll actually gave Obama a clear lead
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Surburban whites won't win it for him, currently he is behind where Romney was with white voters. Romney had a 20% lead with white voters Trump has only a 13% lead with white voters and falling. As for the emerson polls today they don't include people with mobile phones, so are missing a huge chunk of the population. Probably younger voters who lean democrat.
Depends entirely on which polls you look at and expanding white working class turnout will be key for Trump. Rasmussen today has Trump leading Clinton 43% to 41% nationally following Pence's win in the VP debate amongst likely voters. Trump gets 15% of Democrats and leads with independents 40% to 28%. Trump has 12% of the black vote, Hillary 66%
you know rassumen is an utter crock of shit and completely useless as an accurate pollster? they had maccain beatimg obama 8 years ago ffs a day before the election!
It was the most accurate on Bush vs Kerry.....
so 12 years ago then!
Some Bush voters may vote Trump who did not vote for McCain or Romney
It won't topple her, it was bequethed her by Brown and Osborne and Brexit, in any case she has made quite clear she is in no rush to slash the deficit beyond efforts already made and it will be gradually reduced over her premiership and well beyond the next election
Hammond will be toppled. If he tries to reproduce an Osborne budget he will reproduce Osborne's results and get fired.
I'm pretty sure an Omnishambles budget will be used by May to remove him.
I doubt she will remove him this side of the election unless he has a complete disaster
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And reassuringly small "c" conservative as well!
Next reshuffle perhaps. I do not share the same derision for her you do, admittedly, and though she mostly acquitted herself well vs Neil, I found her explanation as to accepting a peerage and joining Labour now to be weak. She says she has been offered honours before, and I am sure that is true, and that she has fought for all manner of rights for years too (many would agree, though some do not), which makes it hard for me to square that with her explanation that she felt to truly help the party change and tackle its problems she felt she should join. Because she made a point to stress it isn't only Labour with such issues, which is true, so why couldn't she remain a respected mostly non-partisan figure and challenge those issues wherever they may be?
https://twitter.com/SamCoatesTimes/status/784119416803954688
Great evening and he's a splendid chap, far too tolerant of my divers musings and ramblings.
Please don't tell me most Trump voters aren't stupid as dog shit. Remember 75% think it will be rigged.
I didn't think there is a such a word as emoticon......
I updated my Mac today, and got this tutorial telling me how I could use these smiley, puerile things (apparently called emoticons) with ease....Soon we will only communicate with little stupid yellow cartoon like things, and Diane Abbott will be Home Secretary..
Hundreds of people attended a neo-Nazi rally that was not opposed by police in the belief it was a charity event. About 350 people attended the rally on the anniversary of the death of Ian Stuart Donaldson, who founded white supremacist group Blood and Honour.
But Cambridgeshire Police said the force had been told the Haddenham gathering on 23 and 24 September was in aid of Help for Heroes.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-37575508
Perhaps his epic train journey to Bournemouth was before your time?
But I call them that because I'm an old duffer around from when there wasn't the pictorial depictions.
Likewise: a thoroughly enjoyable and splendid evening, in very fine company. We must do it more often :-)
Clintons 2008 campaign plugged birtherism for all it was worth. That is not in dispute: all the rebuttals I have seen on the subject rebut trump's claim that she *invented* birtherism, no one denies that she took it up and ran with it. Not that she said Obama was "not Muslim *as far as she knew*".
Animal welfare being important; husband welfare ... less so.
The American Civil Liberties Union, for instance, is far far more willing to stand up for the principles espoused in the Constitution, even when it involves defending hugely dislikeable people such as the Klu Klux Klan.
I do not respect her because I see someone whose understanding is superficial, who is not really very bright, who has not thought deeply about the challenges to liberalism and human rights from those who use such rights as a sword to undermine their very existence and whose actions demonstrate poor judgment when she was tested.
Barman says: "Is this some sort of joke?"
To sum up the mood, I'd say - we'll be in power for 20 years implementing Labour's policies.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct06
Another piercing comment - when did we become the party of the working classes, we're supposed to be the party that helps the working class become middle class.
This guy could sell anything to anyone; yet he is canny enough to let engineers he trusts reign in his (ahem) sometimes exuberant ideas.
I've got a lot of respect for him. I don't particularly like Sugar's public persona, but if hes anything like this bloke, then he'd be a good man to work for.
On the whole though I try and keep my arguments high brow......Apart from Emoticons
"At face value, this is a confessional work by a repentant man who regrets the many sins he committed while close to the centre of power. McBride appears to be candid about his problems with alcohol, his failed relationships, his manipulation of national news, his use of half-truths and occasional inventions, his irresponsibility and lack of care for the individuals on the receiving end of his schemes, his flirtations with illegality, and yet...and yet I couldn't help thinking of that scene in the musical Guys and Dolls, when the gangsters are called to testify at the Salvation Army, feigning sincere contrition for the benefit of their leader, Sky Masterson, who won them in a dice game. McBride would make an excellent Nicely Nicely Johnson. Whether he really has had a sobering revelation and has chosen to confess faithfully, or whether this is simply a Mea Culpa designed to exculpate other senior figures in the then Labour government for their parts in the dishonesty he describes, is left for the reader to decide."
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2016/10/06/public-backs-plans-make-companies-say-how-many-for/
The test of any PM comes along with their almost-inevitable unpopularity.
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I downloaded a free app called Big Buttons Keyboard with er big buttons which helps
On Heathrow, I think she's going to give both the go ahead and goce Gatwick enough rope to hang themselves.
https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/784105917344284672
If he tries to reproduce an Osborne budget he will reproduce Osborne's results and get fired.
I'm pretty sure an Omnishambles budget will be used by May to remove him.
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Emoji is the esperanto of the 21st Century.
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