Abbott has to be a surprising choice when the great shadow-leader had so many talented people to call upon. Noone has mentioned Rebecca Long-Bailey's incredible contribution recently.
@JBickertonUK: If Diane Abbott as shadow home sec is confirmed May could waterboard a puppy live on Sky News and still win in 2020 #LabourReshuffle
Well, quite Mr. Eagles. That is why I am struggling to to see Labour appoint that deranged, racist and hypocritical old bat as their Home Affairs person.
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
The make of Corbyn's left wing London centric elite plays entirely into Theresa May's description yesterday and the idea of Abbott as shadow home secretary is just perverse. Labour is lost as the Country moves to the new consensus and accepts Brexit.
Unlike you, I remain unconvinced that London automatically equals elite.
May's willingness to embrace class war and pit one region of the country against another for short term advantage is just one of the signs of her weak leadership.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
((Dan Hodges)))✔ @DPJHodges Whatever people think of Diane Abbott, she's displayed greater consistency over 30 years than the previous incumbent managed over 30 days.
Funny, although consistently dim seeming is not much to crow about of course (I say 'seeming', because it boggles the mind she could be as poor as her media performances - arch, patronizing and chronically missing the point by a country mile - could truly represent her worth, given her long career as an MP)
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
If Don Brind predicts peace we should best assume that punch-ups will break out within Labour very soon....surely they won't let themselves be upstaged by UKIP (again)?
I find it hard to believe that all of the appointees were appraised of all of these details. Wasn't there a new record set a couple of months ago for the least time between appointment and resignation. A day or so? Anyway that record must be seriously under threat.
Any member who does not rip up their card at the appointment of McBride and Shami needs to consider why they are continuing to support this ... (deletes word) ... filth.
Any member who does not rip up their card at the appointment of McBride and Shami needs to consider why they are continuing to support this ... (deletes word) ... filth.
TSE views McBride as a friend of PB. I agree with you JJ, McBride is filth.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
It will be interesting how he will adapt his gutter tactics for a non-posho female leader. Not sure spreading the sort of fake stories he had lined up for Cameron and Osborne will work for May.
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
The make of Corbyn's left wing London centric elite plays entirely into Theresa May's description yesterday and the idea of Abbott as shadow home secretary is just perverse. Labour is lost as the Country moves to the new consensus and accepts Brexit.
Unlike you, I remain unconvinced that London automatically equals elite.
May's willingness to embrace class war and pit one region of the country against another for short term advantage is just one of the signs of her weak leadership.
Rubbish, Sir.
I have just delivered Herself her mid-evening cup of tea, with accompanying grapes and cheese. As I was preparing these routine gifts I became aware that Thomas, the cat, had been given treats, treats above and beyond his needs. Along with his very expensive cat food (50p for a few mouthfuls), I had already given him some chopped ham and some prawns. However, to my horror Herself had seen fit to add a dish of chopped salmon.
Any member who does not rip up their card at the appointment of McBride and Shami needs to consider why they are continuing to support this ... (deletes word) ... filth.
TSE views McBride as a friend of PB. I agree with you JJ, McBride is filth.
I also agree that if TSE has a high opinion of someone then that someone must be very naughty.
However I didn't see anyone ripping their membership cards when McBride did the same job for Gordon Brown, did someone say hypocrites ?
@jessicaelgot: Told Rosie Winterton's sacking was total shock to her, believed progress was being made on party unity, thought meeting was about mediation
Shami is a good and worthy person....that is now massively tainted by running an independent inquiry for someone that then ennobled her and put her in their cabinet. If that was in the city pages of Private Eye it would end with "trebles all round!".
How to deal with falling voter numbers in the north, massively pile in capital city MP's. Because working class northerners love Londoners, oh yessiree.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Shami Shadow Attorney General - what was that Theresa May said yesterday about left wing human rights lawyers. Amazing how someone who has gone from generally respected to someone who is evasive and sends her child to a private school. Hypocrisy doesn't come close
Shabby Chakrabarti.......
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
Kevin Schofield @PolhomeEditor 2h2 hours ago Labour MP: "This is not a reshuffle for peace, this isn't even a reshuffle for an armistice - this is provocation."
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
IDS 2001 to 2003. He was worse than Corbyn failing to hold Blair to account over Iraq.
IDS did not tolerate and befriend terrorists and anti-semites. That is far more toxic to Labour and our body politic generally than IDS's utter feebleness.
I've watched a rather anaemic Tory party conference with a wary eye this year, some good ideas and some bad but at least an attempt to keep in contact with reality from most of the cabinet and the members.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones. It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
With black gay men maybe, with the others I doubt it.
Don't forget the electorate responds like a female on a date, I wonder what Trump did when dating.
The National Rifle Association's TV ad campaign featuring Kristi McMains, who successfully used the pistol she was carrying in her handbag to fight off a knife attacker who tried to abduct her, may do wonders for Trump. Especially if it synergises with his shtick in the second debate.
I've watched a rather anaemic Tory party conference with a wary eye this year, some good ideas and some bad but at least an attempt to keep in contact with reality from most of the cabinet and the members.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones. It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
Fucking hell.
It is much easier to envisage a two party system where Maytories is the government and Camerontories is the opposition, or vice versa, than to see the present setup functioning properly.
The heading of this thread now embodies an all-time great Question To Which The Answer Is No.
The curse of Brind strikes again?
He does have uncanny timing. We haven't heard from Corbyn or Don for a couple of weeks and just at the point when Don dares to postulate a theory about the Labour Party, Corbyn rises up to lay it totally bare.
Do I hear the phrase Metropolitan Elite.....I can see that going down well in Stoke and Sunderland.
I'm not sure Labour voters in Stoke are really annoyed about London MP's being in the shadow cabinet and not Tristram Hunt.
Engage brain lad....
The point is that they are more annoyed in Stoke about Hunt being their MP than the shadow cabinet reshuffle.
But it plays into the whole narrative. The outlook will be, not only do we have some Southern posho representing us, if we vote Labour we get the whole bloody load of Londeners running the country and they are all pro unlimited immigration. It like the bloody Tories, but even the Tories want to cut back on the immigration.
One of the smart things Blair did was to bring the likes of Prescott in. He is an idiot, but it allowed them to say hey we have some proper normal Northern working class class sitting around the cabinet table.
Did any of these newly appointed shadow ministers, quit the Shadow cabinet before or resin vote against him in the vote of confidence?
I'm trying to work out if he is just rearranging his handful of loyal supporters, enticing some of the doubters back in to a 'medium size tent' at least?
I've watched a rather anaemic Tory party conference with a wary eye this year, some good ideas and some bad but at least an attempt to keep in contact with reality from most of the cabinet and the members.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones. It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I should have thought that scum like McBride would have had their day. All editor need ask a journalist now is the source of their story. The likes of McBride, Campbell and Mandelson would be laughed out of court.
I've watched a rather anaemic Tory party conference with a wary eye this year, some good ideas and some bad but at least an attempt to keep in contact with reality from most of the cabinet and the members.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones. It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
Fucking hell.
It is much easier to envisage a two party system where Maytories is the government and Camerontories is the opposition, or vice versa, than to see the present setup functioning properly.
When the only thing a PM has to worry about is the person she has replaced's old drinking buddies one has to wonder what the fuck is going on. The Tories are playing Chess, Labour are playing multi-ethnic Ludo but only at a pub on the Victoria line.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I should have thought that scum like McBride would have had their day. All editor need ask a journalist now is the source of their story. The likes of McBride, Campbell and Mandelson would be laughed out of court.
BBC always seem keen to get the opinions of Campbell. On again today giving us his thoughts on May and Tory conference.
I've watched a rather anaemic Tory party conference with a wary eye this year, some good ideas and some bad but at least an attempt to keep in contact with reality from most of the cabinet and the members.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones. It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
The heading of this thread now embodies an all-time great Question To Which The Answer Is No.
The curse of Brind strikes again?
He does have uncanny timing. We haven't heard from Corbyn or Don for a couple of weeks and just at the point when Don dares to postulate a theory about the Labour Party, Corbyn rises up to lay it totally bare.
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
Because there was a much higher turnout than normal with Obama as candidate.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
Did any of these newly appointed shadow ministers, quit the Shadow cabinet before or resin vote against him in the vote of confidence?
I'm trying to work out if he is just rearranging his handful of loyal supporters, enticing some of the doubters back in to a 'medium size tent' at least?
@SkyNewsBreak: Jonathan Reynolds has been appointed Shadow Economic Secretary to Treasury & is the first ex-frontbencher to return after resigning in June
Do I hear the phrase Metropolitan Elite.....I can see that going down well in Stoke and Sunderland.
I'm not sure Labour voters in Stoke are really annoyed about London MP's being in the shadow cabinet and not Tristram Hunt.
Engage brain lad....
The point is that they are more annoyed in Stoke about Hunt being their MP than the shadow cabinet reshuffle.
But it plays into the whole narrative. The outlook will be, not only do we have some Southern posho representing us, if we vote Labour we get the whole bloody load of Londeners running the country and they are all pro unlimited immigration. It like the bloody Tories, but even the Tories want to cut back on the immigration.
One of the smart things Blair did was to bring the likes of Prescott in. He is an idiot, but it allowed them to say hey we have some proper normal Northern working class class sitting around the cabinet table.
"idiot" equals "proper normal Northern working class"?
But it is not the moral of the story. And what is the truth about Brexit? Clue, no-one knows. But a lot of people are crying wolf.
And a lot of people are saying 'Look, there's no wolf!', when the prediction was that the wolf would appear some time in the next couple of years.
LOL.
This reminds me of when I was in Geneva at the negotiations drafting the Chemical Weapons Convention. I made the error of saying in an intervention that "there are many ways to skin a cat." Of course, as this was a working group without simultaneous interpretation, I had to explain myself. For the next several months, every delegate for whom English was not the mother tongue seemed to bend over backwards to use another cat metaphor or simile.
When in the USA with my then USA citizen girlfriend we were at a party of her fellow students one evening.
They were discussing a fellow female student who had decided to go to Alaska. They reckoned she was into hairy bearded men and would enjoy the ratio to much laughter. I interjected that she might be out of luck as most of them would probably prefer the sheep.
No laughter, silence, tumbleweed.....
There are actually sheep in Alaska and men do go there sheep hunting, but alas the 'Flossie is that you' double meaning hasnt crossed the atlantic where things are a littie more puritanical.
Baaaa.
In Dartmoor in the summer I realised that sheep don't say Baa they say Meh!
Meh! Meh! Mehhhhh!
It's seriously quite startling when you see it that way (and Meh is closer to the sound they make than Baa).
Suddenly it feels like an entire species is looking at you and snorting with derision, and contempt, rather than stupidly bleating. Makes you quite self conscious.
There won't, and can't be unity, for the simple reason that Corbynism has its own (pardon the pun) momentum. If your entire political project is defined by its supposed purity in relation to the rest of your party then to compromise is to give up the one thing that makes you politically powerful. Once you admit that your principles aren't the only morally acceptable left wing ones it's over - why not have a younger, smarter, more competent leader?
The only way there could be unity is if Labour MPs concede on everything, which is again impossible, because if they're anything like the moderate members disgusted by Corbyn and his coterie there are things that are beyond moral red lines they would be asked to back. No one who thinks Nato has largely kept the peace in Europe since WW2 can seriously suggest a man who thinks it should "pack up and go home" becomes PM. These disagreements can be ignored or put to one side but events will eventually make them flare up again - as happened over the first year. Pretty much every crisis of his leadership was caused by an issue the hard left's views are diametrically opposed to the rest of the left on coming into focus. The same thing is certain to happen again.
As for May & the Tories collapsing, she'll no doubt falter - but why on Earth would those disappointed voters go to Labour? Unhappy economic and social liberals have a far better home in the Lib Dems, and Corbyn's brand of Islington politics is toxic to voters for whom Ed Miliband was too much of a North London SJW.
Mr. Jessop, problem is that McBride is almost certainly more competent than Milne.
I'm not sure he'll be able to operate in the same way as he did before. The media will be on the lookout. It'd be a great story for them to get his scalp again.
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
I should have thought that scum like McBride would have had their day. All editor need ask a journalist now is the source of their story. The likes of McBride, Campbell and Mandelson would be laughed out of court.
BBC always seem keen to get the opinions of Campbell. On again today giving us his thoughts on May and Tory conference.
Someone must get a kick-back to allow him to promote volume 5 of his "diaries"
Shami is a good and worthy person....that is now massively tainted by running an independent inquiry for someone that then ennobled her and put her in their cabinet. If that was in the city pages of Private Eye it would end with "trebles all round!".
She is not a good and worthy person.
She is someone who:-
- thought it ok when a trustee of the LSE to accept money from the Ghaddaffi family - did not speak up for free speech when Geert Wilders was banned from the UK, a ban subsequently overturned by the courts - did not speak up for people like Maajid Nawaz when he was being threatened by Islamists for tweeting a cartoon - praised a senior CAGE (CAGE FFS!!!) person as a great advocate for human rights - has utterly failed to get to grips with the reason why anti-Semitism is now a real problem in the Labour party, not least because she has forgotten Lesson No 1 - "the fish rots from the head". There would be no problem with this in Labour if its leader did not himself have a long history of consorting with anti-semites and if he took the issue seriously.
Her understanding of civil liberties is superficial and her understanding of the threat to them even worse. She talks in superficial soundbites and I would no more entrust my civil liberties to her than I would to my cat.
Labour with their slide into authoritarianism under Blair and their current love for every sort of anti-Western and anti-liberal terrorist and other organization is probably one of the greatest threats to our civil liberties, should they ever get power.
And that threat is recognized by some in Labour, people with a greater moral sense than Shabby C.
As a former Labour councillor in Portsmouth said: "I cannot advocate to voters that they elect a Labour Government with Jeremy Corbyn at the helm. Indeed, I would be morally obliged to campaign against any administration that included Corbyn and John McDonnell, given my belief that they would seriously imperil our nation's national security if ever given the reins of power."
Mind you, it simply echoes what Jeff (now Lord) Rooker said last year at the time of the Syria bombing vote.
"My party leader cannot be accused, like the prime minister, of misleading anyone. He has never, to my knowledge, agreed to protect the realm, the British way of life, or western liberal democracies – and he won't."
Chakrabarti has sold such credibility as she had for a mess of pottage in the Lords.
''Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for ''
Careful, you'll have the site's Clinton rampettes on your case.
Once the registration data and polling supports this purported surge then I'll change my view.
Polling today is actually showing Trump ahead in Florida, tied in Nevada and close in Arizona and NH as posted earlier
Romeny won Arizona by 9!!! Trump being 'close' is a disaster.
He is ahead in Florida, which Romney lost and has more electoral votes and tied in Nevada which Romney also lost. If Trump lost Arizona he could win if he won Florida, Ohio, Colorado, Iowa and a MidWestern state and held the other Romney states. Clinton's lead in Arizona is narrow anyway
Sarah Champion is an excellent promotion (to women and equalities) - one of the most talented of the new intake.
The make of Corbyn's left wing London centric elite plays entirely into Theresa May's description yesterday and the idea of Abbott as shadow home secretary is just perverse. Labour is lost as the Country moves to the new consensus and accepts Brexit.
Unlike you, I remain unconvinced that London automatically equals elite.
May's willingness to embrace class war and pit one region of the country against another for short term advantage is just one of the signs of her weak leadership.
Rubbish, Sir.
I have just delivered Herself her mid-evening cup of tea, with accompanying grapes and cheese. As I was preparing these routine gifts I became aware that Thomas, the cat, had been given treats, treats above and beyond his needs. Along with his very expensive cat food (50p for a few mouthfuls), I had already given him some chopped ham and some prawns. However, to my horror Herself had seen fit to add a dish of chopped salmon.
TM must go easy.
@HurstLlama : Meanwhile our stray kitten Miss Indigo took in a couple of months or so ago has just started to tire of canned sardines, happily I have discovered that the fishermen landing just down the road like to sell off the part of their catch that is too small for the regular customers for a song, so now it gets fish fresh from the sea for about 20p/kilo - result!
Robert Moore on Trump on ITV now. Former manufacturing workers in Ohio say he is the man they have been waiting for
The average voter in an american general election is a 50 year old woman who is a bank clerk or a teacher living in the suburbs, and very very judgmental.
There were a number of suburban voters, male and female, in the programme voting for Trump too
I'm sure they could find A number of those, like Trump has found A number of african americans to vote for him, about 5 or 6.
Suburban whites could win it for him and he is likely to do better than Romney with the black vote in the privacy of the booth
Why will Trump do better with African Americans?
As they have no connection with Hillary as they did with Obama
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What happened to the new politics?
https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/784102828361023488
She fits right in with the rest of the party.
McBride is to political morality what the Empress Theodora was to sexual purity.
http://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.co.uk/2016/09/eastern-empresses.html
'And so I say to all you racist scum, vote labour'
Clinton 44 Trump 42 Johnson 5 Stein 1
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Sufolk_FINAL_NH_Marginals.pdf
Emerson
Florida Trump 45 Clinton 44 Johnson 4 Stein 3
Nevada Clinton 43 Trump 43 Johnson 9
Arizona Clinton 44 Trump 42 Johnson 9 Stein 1
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2016/Emerson_final_Press_Release_and_Toplines_Fl-Nv-RI-AZ_10.5_.pdf
Another London MP...
Ouch.
"And so you may ask, why is Labour not 50 points ahead? Vote for Labour, you deplorable scum!"
Lesbians probably hate that by the way.
https://twitter.com/heatstreet/status/784089240720150528
Don;t bother mate, they aren't listening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCh6OHQJeco
If Trump doesn't get the divine message, well consequences.
Hideously, irremediably rotten from the top down.
Any member who does not rip up their card at the appointment of McBride and Shami needs to consider why they are continuing to support this ... (deletes word) ... filth.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-37579399
Roll on November.and your permanent absence from PB.
I have just delivered Herself her mid-evening cup of tea, with accompanying grapes and cheese. As I was preparing these routine gifts I became aware that Thomas, the cat, had been given treats, treats above and beyond his needs. Along with his very expensive cat food (50p for a few mouthfuls), I had already given him some chopped ham and some prawns. However, to my horror Herself had seen fit to add a dish of chopped salmon.
TM must go easy.
However I didn't see anyone ripping their membership cards when McBride did the same job for Gordon Brown, did someone say hypocrites ?
Popcorn on back order...
Shami is a good and worthy person....that is now massively tainted by running an independent inquiry for someone that then ennobled her and put her in their cabinet. If that was in the city pages of Private Eye it would end with "trebles all round!".
A woman with appalling judgment and no moral compass. Perfect for today's Labour party.
Labour MP: "This is not a reshuffle for peace, this isn't even a reshuffle for an armistice - this is provocation."
As for his competence: he was snivelling around Brown's backside from 2003 onwards, campaigning to get his boss the top job. He did it, but to a large degree caused Labour's current problems - an entire generation of would-be leaders was destroyed. I'm not sure that could be called 'competence'.
He'll do the same thing again. He's much more effective in ridding Labour of competent people than he is of attacking the Conservatives.
Now that Woolfe is clearly on the road to recovery, can we agree that this is v funny?
Anyway, eyes are going fuzzy so I'm off for the night.
Then Labour start their reshuffle and expose the chasm between the two parties, one is a little hidebound but at least gets out a bit, and the other spends all its time around each others houses acting like Rick from the Young Ones.
It leaves centrists like me in the cold, the Tories are lurching a but but at least near the centre ground whilst Labour are off playing in the deep end and telling voters how stupid they are.
Fucking hell.
Don't forget the electorate responds like a female on a date, I wonder what Trump did when dating.
One of the smart things Blair did was to bring the likes of Prescott in. He is an idiot, but it allowed them to say hey we have some proper normal Northern working class class sitting around the cabinet table.
Does Jezza have the first idea about anything.No. Thought so.
The only person I could think that could be worse would be Tyson Fury
I'm trying to work out if he is just rearranging his handful of loyal supporters, enticing some of the doubters back in to a 'medium size tent' at least?
The Tories are playing Chess, Labour are playing multi-ethnic Ludo but only at a pub on the Victoria line.
Not sure I care about Labour's #jokeshuffle.
The only way there could be unity is if Labour MPs concede on everything, which is again impossible, because if they're anything like the moderate members disgusted by Corbyn and his coterie there are things that are beyond moral red lines they would be asked to back. No one who thinks Nato has largely kept the peace in Europe since WW2 can seriously suggest a man who thinks it should "pack up and go home" becomes PM. These disagreements can be ignored or put to one side but events will eventually make them flare up again - as happened over the first year. Pretty much every crisis of his leadership was caused by an issue the hard left's views are diametrically opposed to the rest of the left on coming into focus. The same thing is certain to happen again.
As for May & the Tories collapsing, she'll no doubt falter - but why on Earth would those disappointed voters go to Labour? Unhappy economic and social liberals have a far better home in the Lib Dems, and Corbyn's brand of Islington politics is toxic to voters for whom Ed Miliband was too much of a North London SJW.
whens the wikileaks benghazi stuff then? is 48 hours late.
She is someone who:-
- thought it ok when a trustee of the LSE to accept money from the Ghaddaffi family
- did not speak up for free speech when Geert Wilders was banned from the UK, a ban subsequently overturned by the courts
- did not speak up for people like Maajid Nawaz when he was being threatened by Islamists for tweeting a cartoon
- praised a senior CAGE (CAGE FFS!!!) person as a great advocate for human rights
- has utterly failed to get to grips with the reason why anti-Semitism is now a real problem in the Labour party, not least because she has forgotten Lesson No 1 - "the fish rots from the head". There would be no problem with this in Labour if its leader did not himself have a long history of consorting with anti-semites and if he took the issue seriously.
Her understanding of civil liberties is superficial and her understanding of the threat to them even worse. She talks in superficial soundbites and I would no more entrust my civil liberties to her than I would to my cat.
Labour with their slide into authoritarianism under Blair and their current love for every sort of anti-Western and anti-liberal terrorist and other organization is probably one of the greatest threats to our civil liberties, should they ever get power.
And that threat is recognized by some in Labour, people with a greater moral sense than Shabby C.
As a former Labour councillor in Portsmouth said: "I cannot advocate to voters that they elect a Labour Government with Jeremy Corbyn at the helm. Indeed, I would be morally obliged to campaign against any administration that included Corbyn and John McDonnell, given my belief that they would seriously imperil our nation's national security if ever given the reins of power."
Mind you, it simply echoes what Jeff (now Lord) Rooker said last year at the time of the Syria bombing vote.
"My party leader cannot be accused, like the prime minister, of misleading anyone. He has never, to my knowledge, agreed to protect the realm, the British way of life, or western liberal democracies – and he won't."
Chakrabarti has sold such credibility as she had for a mess of pottage in the Lords.