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    Uzbek tyrant gets 3 days of mourning: Brexit gets 2 years of moaning.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2016
    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    This isn't Hillary's night

    FBI notes: Clinton wrongly stated she had only one device; aides said there were more. https://t.co/KMTv6Tbd5W
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    Tim Wookey
    Sitting on the south French coast in peace & there hasn't been a terror attack for 2 weeks. Now that is genuinely nothing to do with Islam.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    edited September 2016
    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    There are two elements to training; the obvious one is the classification system (there are a few bells and whistles that people need to know about, like NO FORN). Then there's the handling system; what to do with classified paper documents, how to destroy them, whether copies are allowed and so forth. Similar concerns for electronic devices - especially disposal standards.
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    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    Very unconvincing...

    Indeed. Why just a 'C' no 'A', 'B', or 'D'?

    If this was anyone else, they'd be in jail by now.

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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2016
    Jesus, just turned the rubgy on & Leicester tigers appear to have been replaced by a motorway maintenance unit.
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    O/T

    The cat is now very old and not doing much so we have started to look at the possibilities of holidays, maybe as early as next year. One place we would both like to visit is the Falkland Islands, but how to get there?

    Leave aside for a moment my dislike of flying, there would seem to be two aeroplane routes. One run by a commercial company via Chile and one run by HMG out of RAF Brize Norton via Ascension. The RAF flight is a regular one for service purposes so it will be service standard of catering (crap food and no booze) and accommodation with some seats being flogged off to civies to make some cash for HMG. The Commercial service will be a commercial service with all the drawbacks and advantages that brings, it also requires an overnight stop in Chile.

    The difference in price? £1100! HMG charges £2200 whilst the commercial airline charges £1100. The MoD is having a laugh.

    Chile may well be worth a look in its own right, a shame to go all that way without a stopover.The Andes, the Fjords, the winelands and some interesting cities all quite accessible. Apparantly the Chilean accent is quite difficult even for native Spanish speakers, but the country has an official policy of bilingualism in English. The cost difference in flights may well pay for a weeks break.

    If military history is your thing then there may well be specialist tours, and I expect these would take in the other sites along the way.

    I don't know if you have read Rick Jolly's book:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-Green-Life-Machine-Falklands/dp/055299068X

    Surgeon Commander Jolly is an amazing man, I spent a very well lubricated night with him about 1985, his lecture on treatment of bullet wounds was revolutionary. It was based upon his work in Ulster in the Seventies, and led to the astonishingly good survival record at the base hospital at San Carlos Bay. This is despite extreme conditions including an unexploded bomb in the rafters.

    Uniquely, he was decorated by both sides for his role in the same conflict.
    Thanks for that Doc, if we do go we will almost certainly stop over in Chile for a week or so.

    As for Surgeon-Captain Rick Jolly (as he became) his reputation throughout the Navy and the Army was, rightly, tremendous. He ran the first field hospital in military history in which no patients died. If you got to Rick Jolly's care alive then you would stay alive. That is big, big stuff to a squaddie going in under the guns.

    As an aside I don't know if you are able to say to what extent the big advances in trauma care that happened in Afghanistan have been adopted in the NHS. The teams out there may not have been able to match Rick Jolly's record (possibly because casualty evacuation was quicker) but by all accounts there were some stunning advances made.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,898

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again. They could pick pretty much anyone and they'd win a landslide against their incumbent opponent.

    Over 200 million eligible candidates and they came up with these two. I think I'd probably vote for Gary Johnson if I had a vote, shame he's probably not going to make the debates.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited September 2016
    National - Latino Voters - America's Voice/Latino Decisions

    Clinton 70 .. Trump 19

    Notes - Sample 3,729 - Trump running 10 points worse than Romney.

    http://www.latinodecisions.com/files/4014/7282/4681/AV_Wave_2_Natl_Deck_Sept_2016.pdf
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    nunununu Posts: 6,024
    edited September 2016
    MP_SE said:

    GeoffM said:

    nunu said:

    nunu said:

    nunu "This is so shocking, go to about 20mins in. In middle class Chester!"

    Are you being serious or taking the P?

    Why would you ask if I'm being serious? Or do u think what that woman experienced wasn't shocking? TSE is right you are thick.


    People need to drop the Leave/Remain tribalism now.
    You take her story as fact then. If you want "People to drop the Leave/Remain tribalism now" you would need to start with yourself and stop calling people stupid who supported LEAVE.
    Nunu might take her story as fact but I think it's a made up crock of shite.

    Each to their own, I guess.
    Radio shows are particularly susceptible to hoax calls. It is very easy to bombard a show with calls from activists and those with an agenda.

    I don't know what to make of the lady from Chester. Obviously very sad if true but the police spoke to her and she asked that they not take it any further.
    Shes an elderly woman who was afraid of her neighbours that is probably why she doesn't want to take it further. She sounded really genuine to me, and I know of many people in London who have been abused since the vote many of them being told "we voted out, get out" Or something simmilar. It's not just anecdotal, there was a big surege after the vote to Leave.

    Doesn't mean the debate or vote shouldn't of happened of course I just hope people reach out to people they know and make them feel welcome. Thats all, I don't understand this defensiveness by people on here saying"oh it's fake it's fake". " I don't believe it"! So quick to believe stories when it suits thier narratives.........
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    GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    nunu said:


    I think you are a disgusting human bieng. An elderly woman comes on radio describing her angst and you say it is all lies. You are pathetic, I pray you don't get attcked as others have as I know of.

    You may or may not be right about my merits as a human being but you can definitely drop the idea of praying for me to your god.

    [thread snipped for being too long]
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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again.
    At least Trump won the Republican contest fair and square against substantial opposition. The Democrats conspired to ensure that Hillary came out on top.
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    welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,460
    AndyJS said:

    The first and only Uzbek president confirmed dead 6 days after it was first reported:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37260375

    Has anyone dared tell him he's dead to his face yet?
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    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again. They could pick pretty much anyone and they'd win a landslide against their incumbent opponent.

    Over 200 million eligible candidates and they came up with these two. I think I'd probably vote for Gary Johnson if I had a vote, shame he's probably not going to make the debates.
    The writers of House of Cards must be kicking themselves - they are never going to be able to match all of this with the new season.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,898
    John_M said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    There are two elements to training; the obvious one is the classification system (there are a few bells and whistles that people need to know about, like NO FORN). Then there's the handling system; what to do with classified paper documents, how to destroy them, whether copies are allowed and so forth. Similar concerns for electronic devices - especially disposal standards.
    Quite. There will also be the US version of Sir Humphrey at the State department, who's responsible for making sure the political appointees understand this stuff.

    Hillary really does think the law doesn't apply to her.
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    Very unconvincing...

    Indeed. Why just a 'C' no 'A', 'B', or 'D'?

    If this was anyone else, they'd be in jail by now.

    She didn't understand because she was suffering from concussion in 2012 - at least that is what Reuter's are saying according to Breitbart.
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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    HYUFD said:

    Warning - Avoid central London tomorrow, the streets will be packed for the 'LDs March for Europe'
    https://www.facebook.com/events/1771665376380983/?notif_t=event_joined_nearby&notif_id=1472819922451497

    Time to stock up on eggs.
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    SandpitSandpit Posts: 49,898

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again. They could pick pretty much anyone and they'd win a landslide against their incumbent opponent.

    Over 200 million eligible candidates and they came up with these two. I think I'd probably vote for Gary Johnson if I had a vote, shame he's probably not going to make the debates.
    The writers of House of Cards must be kicking themselves - they are never going to be able to match all of this with the new season.
    I suggested some months ago on here that the Republicans would do a spoof House of Cards trailer featuring the Clintons, it's such an obvious association to make to floating voters.
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    Very unconvincing...

    Indeed. Why just a 'C' no 'A', 'B', or 'D'?

    If this was anyone else, they'd be in jail by now.

    She didn't understand because she was suffering from concussion in 2012 - at least that is what Reuter's are saying according to Breitbart.
    What accident did she have? I read that the NFL had been contacted too for advice.
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    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    Very unconvincing...

    Indeed. Why just a 'C' no 'A', 'B', or 'D'?

    If this was anyone else, they'd be in jail by now.

    She didn't understand because she was suffering from concussion in 2012 - at least that is what Reuter's are saying according to Breitbart.

    Sorry Officer, I didn't realise the speed limit was only 70mph - I was suffering from concussion...

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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again. They could pick pretty much anyone and they'd win a landslide against their incumbent opponent.

    Over 200 million eligible candidates and they came up with these two. I think I'd probably vote for Gary Johnson if I had a vote, shame he's probably not going to make the debates.
    The writers of House of Cards must be kicking themselves - they are never going to be able to match all of this with the new season.
    And to think I thought the plot of Argo was far fetched reality in action.
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    FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 76,285
    edited September 2016

    Sandpit said:

    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Well the whole reason she used a private email server was after briefings about not being able to use her phone for email etc, so of course it's bollocks. How did a country of 300 million people find these 2 as candidates for POTUS.
    Quite. Both parties must wish they could turn the clock back and start the selection process again. They could pick pretty much anyone and they'd win a landslide against their incumbent opponent.

    Over 200 million eligible candidates and they came up with these two. I think I'd probably vote for Gary Johnson if I had a vote, shame he's probably not going to make the debates.
    The writers of House of Cards must be kicking themselves - they are never going to be able to match all of this with the new season.
    What you mean it isn't a documentary on the Clintons under the guise of fiction (turning democrats into republicans, but still from the deep south)?
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited September 2016

    tlg86 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Scott_P said:

    @patrick_kidd: Am on Virgin train. War with Corbyn endures. Guard just said: "For those moaning they have to sit on floor there are 132 empty seats today."

    @patrick_kidd: Virgin guard goes on: "If you can't find an empty seat, may I suggest you try walking through more than one carriage before complaining"

    I'd put money on the guard saying that was doing so off his own bat, not prompted by the company in any way at all. Railway people can be very proud and protective of their company.
    Us SR folk have still not forgiven BR(WR) now GWR again for singling our main line to exeter damn near wrecking it after they took it over in a BR regional boundary change in 1963 and probably won't until it is restored to double track and the principle route to Exeter again.
    Did you know that when the M5 was built, the Western Region got those responsible to design the bridge over the railway at Pinhoe to be wide enough for only one track?
    I vaguely recall hearing a story that the highways agency offered to do a two track overbridge but they said dont worry one is enough or the highways lot are committed to widening it if asked which sounds very unlikely?

    If you know more I am all ears.

    The WR did try to shut all five stations between Honiton and Exeter, managed to shut three and all three have now reopened.
    I've only heard that story second hand, but it sounds about right. If Crossrail 2 gets built and is done properly then two new lines should be built as far out as Hampton Court Junctions. That will free up capacity on the slow lines into Waterloo. At this point double tracking the line to Exeter would be a no brainer and you could run a very good service. It would require a bit of work in places - a dive under/fly over at Woking would really help, but it should definitely be up for consideration.
    I think flyovers at both Woking and Bazingstoke are in the long term pipeline.

    The studies for reopening the Exeter to Plymouth via Okehampton showed there would be three times as many passengers if the trains go to Waterloo not just a shuttle to exeter as network rails original study assumed.
    Do you have linkies to those studies / reports please? I've obviously missed them, and it's something I'm interested in.
    Exeter Plymouth reopening report - Rural Reconnections:

    http://www.cpre.org.uk/resources/transport/rail/item/3986-rural-reconnections.



    Woking and Basingstoke flyovers here:

    https://www.networkrail.co.uk/long-term-planning-process/wessex-route-study/

    Cheers
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    PlatoSaid said:

    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    Very unconvincing...

    Indeed. Why just a 'C' no 'A', 'B', or 'D'?

    If this was anyone else, they'd be in jail by now.

    She didn't understand because she was suffering from concussion in 2012 - at least that is what Reuter's are saying according to Breitbart.
    What accident did she have? I read that the NFL had been contacted too for advice.
    http://www.eutimes.net/2012/12/clinton-injured-us-navy-seal-killed-in-secret-us-mission-to-iran/ Maybe?
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    And more

    Since leaving the White House, Mr Clinton has requested $16 million in government benefits — the most by any living president.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bill-clinton-used-tax-dollars-to-fund-charity-n3k7v8d3k
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    @HL

    Rick Jolly was tremendously good man. He nearly signed me up by the end of the evening. The most genuinely inspirational man I think that I shall ever meet.

    Military trauma is quite different to civilian trauma, not just in severity but also in the nature of the injuries so not always transferrable as a skill to the NHS. Nonetheless the services unit in Birmingham has done a lot for NHS trauma too. The closest I personally recall were motorcycle injuries and a microlight that stalled on takeoff. Multiple broken bones and traumatic amputation with a degloving injury. It is strange how the horror comes later, at the time it is a job of work and a challenging one.

    In the Falklands a lot of the wounds were dirty and old by the time they arrived at the base hospital, particularly the Argentines. Jolly's teaching of delayed closure and debridement of necrotic tissue came into its own and saved many. Jolly also did some field autopsies that proved false the allegation that Argies had executed some captured Scots Guards.

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    old_labourold_labour Posts: 3,238
    PlatoSaid said:

    And more

    Since leaving the White House, Mr Clinton has requested $16 million in government benefits — the most by any living president.

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/bill-clinton-used-tax-dollars-to-fund-charity-n3k7v8d3k

    Ironic because he was the guy who was going to "end welfare as we know it".
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    CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    What did she think it meant? Grading of how well written it was like some college paper?
    FFS she was the Secretary of f*****g State. She clearly knew the "classified" annotation. Or should be disbarred for rank incompetence.
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    Sandpit said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    FBI: Clinton speculated the “C” marking was referencing paragraphs marked in alphabetical order

    That's got to be bollocks, there's no way she didn't have a *lot* of training and supervision on the handling of sensitive material when appointed as SoS.

    I really think Trump is the lesser of two evils now, Hillary is completely unfit to hold office.
    Makes you wonder if she has got the undiagnosed early stages of Alzheimers or something
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    PlatoSaidPlatoSaid Posts: 10,383
    FFS

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/02/hillary-clintons-oh-st-moment-emails-wiped-bleachbit-secret-server-discovered/

    "It doesn’t get more blatant than a staffer – whose name is redacted, but might be Bryan Pagliano, the IT staffer who invoked the Fifth Amendment over 125 times to avoid giving testimony on his actions – admitting he had an “oh, sh*t” moment when he realized her emails might still be where Congress, the FBI, and the American people could get at them:
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    JackW said:

    National - Latino Voters - America's Voice/Latino Decisions

    Clinton 70 .. Trump 19

    Notes - Sample 3,729 - Trump running 10 points worse than Romney.

    http://www.latinodecisions.com/files/4014/7282/4681/AV_Wave_2_Natl_Deck_Sept_2016.pdf

    Have you seen the Reuters 50 state projection tool. Their default numbers they have zeroed the model on that produce a horse race are... Interesting.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    SeanT said:


    It's very difficult to find a sexy male icon, beloved by women, who isn't alpha, dominant, and classically rightwing. From Darcy to Heathcliff, from Christian Gray (trillionaire businessman!) to Ross Poldark (dashing mine-captain), they are all Tories, Republicans or quasi-Fascist.

    In Highlander the brooding macho hero actually gives the feisty modern heroine a spanking, which caused much excitation in the largely female viewership.

    No liberal could ever administer a sincere spanking. He'd be worried about triggering. And have triplicate consent forms ready to be signed.

    Hang on. Poldark is a lefty. He agitates for better working pay and conditions, fights against oligarchy, and marries a working class wench
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Charles said:

    PlatoSaid said:

    She's such a crap liar

    Oliver D'Arcy
    FBI doc: Clinton said she didn’t know the “C” marking in emails meant the information was classified https://t.co/1RVWaIYX0f

    What did she think it meant? Grading of how well written it was like some college paper?
    FFS she was the Secretary of f*****g State. She clearly knew the "classified" annotation. Or should be disbarred for rank incompetence.
    Classified documents & their handling systems are designed to make it blindingly obvious what classification they are. You have to willfully strip headers and para markers to obscure that fact. Anyone who's ever clapped eyes on one knows this.
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    FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    However according to the final chapter of the new sequel to Sex Lies and the Ballot Box, rightwingers are happier with their sex lives...
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited September 2016
    MP_SE said:

    GeoffM said:

    nunu said:

    nunu said:

    nunu "This is so shocking, go to about 20mins in. In middle class Chester!"

    Are you being serious or taking the P?

    Why would you ask if I'm being serious? Or do u think what that woman experienced wasn't shocking? TSE is right you are thick.
    More insults from the so superior REMAINers..... I listened from the 20 mins point for about 5 mins and it was very hard to make out what she had suffered other than coming from Germany and someone told her "made your bed so you lie in it". So could you help and explain what exactly she had suffered and how that had been substantiated by some other evidence?
    "More insults from the so superior REMAINers..... "- LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.

    Clearly you didn't bother listening then, you heard what you wanted to.She said she has lived here since the 70's and her neighbours and people who she thought were her friends and had even gone on coach trips with said they could no longer be friends with her because she is "foreign" people hear her accent and shout abuse at her, she has had dog poo on her window and is very afraid. I'm not saying it's representative of LEAVE voters at all but I found it a few days ago and thought it was shocking. I hope we can reach out to people and make sure they know they feel valued.

    People need to drop the Leave/Remain tribalism now.
    You take her story as fact then. If you want "People to drop the Leave/Remain tribalism now" you would need to start with yourself and stop calling people stupid who supported LEAVE.
    Nunu might take her story as fact but I think it's a made up crock of shite.

    Each to their own, I guess.
    Radio shows are particularly susceptible to hoax calls. It is very easy to bombard a show with calls from activists and those with an agenda.

    I don't know what to make of the lady from Chester. Obviously very sad if true but the police spoke to her and she asked that they not take it any further.
    I have a friend who hoaxed radio five after ringing up and giving the name of a well known southern african politician, claiming he lived in salisbury and got on air on a phone in and called for a curfew with armed troops on the streets to sort weekend town centre disorder all in a fake heavy south african accent to gasps of horror from the studio invitees. He is or was actually a Libdem
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Alistair said:

    JackW said:

    National - Latino Voters - America's Voice/Latino Decisions

    Clinton 70 .. Trump 19

    Notes - Sample 3,729 - Trump running 10 points worse than Romney.

    http://www.latinodecisions.com/files/4014/7282/4681/AV_Wave_2_Natl_Deck_Sept_2016.pdf

    Have you seen the Reuters 50 state projection tool. Their default numbers they have zeroed the model on that produce a horse race are... Interesting.
    This one ? http://www.reuters.com/statesofthenation/ - it's a week out of date.
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    John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    There's a tweet showing Corbyn with a Byzantine halo. Another quoting Einstein ('Great spirits etc'). Jaysus. The outpourings of love and fealty tonight are truly amazing. Faith based politics is here.
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    Do you have linkies to those studies / reports please? I've obviously missed them, and it's something I'm interested in.

    Exeter Plymouth reopening report - Rural Reconnections:

    http://www.cpre.org.uk/resources/transport/rail/item/3986-rural-reconnections.



    Woking and Basingstoke flyovers here:

    https://www.networkrail.co.uk/long-term-planning-process/wessex-route-study/

    Cheers
    Thanks.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Alistair said:

    Have you seen the Reuters 50 state projection tool. Their default numbers they have zeroed the model on that produce a horse race are... Interesting.

    Indeed. Some of the state polling is very "interesting".

    Remember FOP .... :smile:
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    weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    JackW said:

    Alistair said:

    Have you seen the Reuters 50 state projection tool. Their default numbers they have zeroed the model on that produce a horse race are... Interesting.

    Indeed. Some of the state polling is very "interesting".

    Remember FOP .... :smile:
    Hillary has many routes that only need one of F/P Trump needs one of them + O + a few more (if not all 3). But Hillary's snake is getting paler over at 538.
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Freggles said:

    SeanT said:


    It's very difficult to find a sexy male icon, beloved by women, who isn't alpha, dominant, and classically rightwing. From Darcy to Heathcliff, from Christian Gray (trillionaire businessman!) to Ross Poldark (dashing mine-captain), they are all Tories, Republicans or quasi-Fascist.

    In Highlander the brooding macho hero actually gives the feisty modern heroine a spanking, which caused much excitation in the largely female viewership.

    No liberal could ever administer a sincere spanking. He'd be worried about triggering. And have triplicate consent forms ready to be signed.

    Hang on. Poldark is a lefty. He agitates for better working pay and conditions, fights against oligarchy, and marries a working class wench
    And Jezza seems to have a pulling power far beyond the obvious.

    Indeed anyone involved in far left politics in the Seventies and Eighties was banging like a belt fed bazooka...
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    Clinton classified emails -- who cares? Seriously. We've been up, down and round the block on this and still Americans tell pollsters they will vote for Hillary. Ah, but now it's combined with a health story. Reagan's too old, GW's too dumb, and Obama's not even American -- and all became president.
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    JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    weejonnie said:

    Hillary has many routes that only need one of F/P Trump needs one of them + O + a few more (if not all 3). But Hillary's snake is getting paler over at 538.

    Trump requires all of FOP or he is done. Today has been a better polling day for him and 538 has narrowed all three models to around 70% for Clinton.

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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    @HL

    Rick Jolly was tremendously good man. He nearly signed me up by the end of the evening. The most genuinely inspirational man I think that I shall ever meet.

    Military trauma is quite different to civilian trauma, not just in severity but also in the nature of the injuries so not always transferrable as a skill to the NHS. Nonetheless the services unit in Birmingham has done a lot for NHS trauma too. The closest I personally recall were motorcycle injuries and a microlight that stalled on takeoff. Multiple broken bones and traumatic amputation with a degloving injury. It is strange how the horror comes later, at the time it is a job of work and a challenging one.

    In the Falklands a lot of the wounds were dirty and old by the time they arrived at the base hospital, particularly the Argentines. Jolly's teaching of delayed closure and debridement of necrotic tissue came into its own and saved many. Jolly also did some field autopsies that proved false the allegation that Argies had executed some captured Scots Guards.

    Gosh, just think another drinkie or two and we could now be talking to Surgeon-Commander FoxinSox (RN retd)! Your whole life would have been different.

    Re dealing with the trauma and the horror coming later. That seems to be standard. At the time one is too focused on the job at hand it is only afterwards when the brain sorts out its filing system that the reality actually hits home. For some it is a night or two's disturbed sleep, for some the nightmares don't stop and for some the nightmares happen while they are awake. My own didn't start until long after I was retired but now they come most nights. Scotch before bedtime helps.
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    Paul_BedfordshirePaul_Bedfordshire Posts: 3,632
    edited September 2016

    Freggles said:

    SeanT said:


    It's very difficult to find a sexy male icon, beloved by women, who isn't alpha, dominant, and classically rightwing. From Darcy to Heathcliff, from Christian Gray (trillionaire businessman!) to Ross Poldark (dashing mine-captain), they are all Tories, Republicans or quasi-Fascist.

    In Highlander the brooding macho hero actually gives the feisty modern heroine a spanking, which caused much excitation in the largely female viewership.

    No liberal could ever administer a sincere spanking. He'd be worried about triggering. And have triplicate consent forms ready to be signed.

    Hang on. Poldark is a lefty. He agitates for better working pay and conditions, fights against oligarchy, and marries a working class wench
    And Jezza seems to have a pulling power far beyond the obvious.

    Indeed anyone involved in far left politics in the Seventies and Eighties was banging like a belt fed bazooka...
    The trouble is labour led by far left loons only has to get lucky once. We have to be lucky every election to stop them.
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    DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
    edited September 2016
    Most Scots realise that when the SNP politicians claim that the Brexit referendum result necessitates another indyref, they're speaking with forked tongues. If I were in the SNP, I wouldn't want another indyref. The result would be in favour of the union, and the SNP would be crushed in the following Scottish general election. The SNP leadership probably take exactly that view. They just have to demand things and say that the English (and sometimes other parties, such as the global ratings agencies) won't let them have them. That plays to their core market. And people call the Poms whingers!
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    foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    @HL

    Rick Jolly was tremendously good man. He nearly signed me up by the end of the evening. The most genuinely inspirational man I think that I shall ever meet.

    Military trauma is quite different to civilian trauma, not just in severity but also in the nature of the injuries so not always transferrable as a skill to the NHS. Nonetheless the services unit in Birmingham has done a lot for NHS trauma too. The closest I personally recall were motorcycle injuries and a microlight that stalled on takeoff. Multiple broken bones and traumatic amputation with a degloving injury. It is strange how the horror comes later, at the time it is a job of work and a challenging one.

    In the Falklands a lot of the wounds were dirty and old by the time they arrived at the base hospital, particularly the Argentines. Jolly's teaching of delayed closure and debridement of necrotic tissue came into its own and saved many. Jolly also did some field autopsies that proved false the allegation that Argies had executed some captured Scots Guards.

    Gosh, just think another drinkie or two and we could now be talking to Surgeon-Commander FoxinSox (RN retd)! Your whole life would have been different.

    Re dealing with the trauma and the horror coming later. That seems to be standard. At the time one is too focused on the job at hand it is only afterwards when the brain sorts out its filing system that the reality actually hits home. For some it is a night or two's disturbed sleep, for some the nightmares don't stop and for some the nightmares happen while they are awake. My own didn't start until long after I was retired but now they come most nights. Scotch before bedtime helps.
    It did come pretty close to that, but I did not sign up as I was too unsure what to specialise in, and the Forces were much better at some than others.

    I think in my retirement that I too may brood over the mistakes I have made, and the consequences that these have had for others. Not many Doctors can be free of that burden.
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    HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    @HL

    Rick Jolly was tremendously good man. He nearly signed me up by the end of the evening. The most genuinely inspirational man I think that I shall ever meet.

    Military trauma is quite different to civilian trauma, not just in severity but also in the nature of the injuries so not always transferrable as a skill to the NHS. Nonetheless the services unit in Birmingham has done a lot for NHS trauma too. The closest I personally recall were motorcycle injuries and a microlight that stalled on takeoff. Multiple broken bones and traumatic amputation with a degloving injury. It is strange how the horror comes later, at the time it is a job of work and a challenging one.

    In the Falklands a lot of the wounds were dirty and old by the time they arrived at the base hospital, particularly the Argentines. Jolly's teaching of delayed closure and debridement of necrotic tissue came into its own and saved many. Jolly also did some field autopsies that proved false the allegation that Argies had executed some captured Scots Guards.

    Gosh, just think another drinkie or two and we could now be talking to Surgeon-Commander FoxinSox (RN retd)! Your whole life would have been different.

    Re dealing with the trauma and the horror coming later. That seems to be standard. At the time one is too focused on the job at hand it is only afterwards when the brain sorts out its filing system that the reality actually hits home. For some it is a night or two's disturbed sleep, for some the nightmares don't stop and for some the nightmares happen while they are awake. My own didn't start until long after I was retired but now they come most nights. Scotch before bedtime helps.
    It did come pretty close to that, but I did not sign up as I was too unsure what to specialise in, and the Forces were much better at some than others.

    I think in my retirement that I too may brood over the mistakes I have made, and the consequences that these have had for others. Not many Doctors can be free of that burden.
    I dunno, Doc, consciously brooding doesn't seem to be necessary and nor does guilt. I don't do the first and have no feelings of the latter (I always did my duty to the best of my ability, why should I feel guilty). Yet the dreams come almost nightly. Just my subconcious getting its filing system sorted? I dunno.
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    AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    edited September 2016
    Dromedary said:

    Most Scots realise that when the SNP politicians claim that the Brexit referendum result necessitates another indyref, they're speaking with forked tongues. If I were in the SNP, I wouldn't want another indyref. The result would be in favour of the union, and the SNP would be crushed in the following Scottish general election. The SNP leadership probably take exactly that view. They just have to demand things and say that the English (and sometimes other parties, such as the global ratings agencies) won't let them have them. That plays to their core market. And people call the Poms whingers!

    Why would the SNP be crushed. Who would all the Indy voters suddenly start voting for?
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    Whayt a bunch of whingers you Pol Bet lot are.

    The SNP at over 50 per cent a decade into Government and you think they have problems. Really.

    Support for indy on this (the most hostile poll) at 46 per cent and you don't think Sturgeon will fire the starting gun. Salmond fired it at 27 per cent on YouGov and ended on 45 per cent!

    I think she will set the date and win.
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    DromedaryDromedary Posts: 1,194
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