How about asking if they should offer "fair" terms.
The French would still demand unfair terms even then, as the poll confirms they are still our oldest enemy and hate us more than any other major nation in Europe or elsewhere
So, no discussion on the Treaty of Troyes then? Disappointing.
Well I am sure the Queen could do better than Hollande and she does speak the language
@chrisdeerin: live stream of the Labour leadership debate has crashed - probably killed itself over the weapons-grade muppetry on display in the audience
@lbcbreaking: The Home Secretary Amber Rudd says Dame Lowell Goddard has resigned as head of the Indepenent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse.
Good. You can't carry on in a job if you aren't seen to be actually doing it.
Great choice by May there in the first place. Her track record at the Home Office is pretty weak really. Does not inspire much confidence for her premiership.
@lbcbreaking: The Home Secretary Amber Rudd says Dame Lowell Goddard has resigned as head of the Indepenent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse.
Good. You can't carry on in a job if you aren't seen to be actually doing it.
Great choice by May there in the first place. Her track record at the Home Office is pretty weak really. Does not inspire much confidence for her premiership.
Great second attempt by May...the first attempt blew up in her face (and see clearly either didn't check or didn't care).
Aaron Banks described described Vote Leave’s Dominic Cummings and Matthew Elliot as “two of the nastiest individuals I have ever had the misfortune to meet”, and that he “wouldn’t put them in charge of the local sweet shop”.
(It's a little depressing that he's no longer considered relevant as part of a broader collection - not a comment on him particularly, but a more general observation )
@lbcbreaking: The Home Secretary Amber Rudd says Dame Lowell Goddard has resigned as head of the Indepenent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse.
Good. You can't carry on in a job if you aren't seen to be actually doing it.
Great choice by May there in the first place. Her track record at the Home Office is pretty weak really. Does not inspire much confidence for her premiership.
The point of having an independent inquiry is to set it up and let it get on with it.
It is to be regretted that Goddard chose not to actually do the job in a timely and appropriate fashion. But it was surely her decision how to run things - not the Home Office. If it had been otherwise, people would be complaining about political interference.
Not everything that goes wrong in public life is actually the fault of a politician. Amazing as that may seem.
I love Corbyn's language on energy - "the government cut down the feed-in tariffs to an unsustainable level." So high subsidies = sustainable and low subsidies = unsustainable.
Britain needs to reindustrialise it seems; I'm guessing they mean massive subsidisation of hand picked schemes that will ultimately massively fail in the medium term because what does the Labour top team know about industry having all been mainly life long politicos.
Aaron Banks described described Vote Leave’s Dominic Cummings and Matthew Elliot as “two of the nastiest individuals I have ever had the misfortune to meet”, and that he “wouldn’t put them in charge of the local sweet shop”.
(It's a little depressing that he's no longer considered relevant as part of a broader collection - not a comment on him particularly, but a more general observation )
Madame Tussauds is pretty ruthless in discarding any celebrities they no longer consider relevant
This Labour debate is awful. Haven't learnt the lessons of the past couple of General Elections - May has never had it so easy.
As we saw from the Labour and Conservative leadership races, we are desperately short of good politicians. The same, of course, is true in America.
It isn't just shortage of quality politicians, it is shortage of good ideas. At the moment it is basically more of the same vs back to the Socialist 70s (Smith even just said that, back to good old fashioned Socialist policies).
There are lots of problems, rehashing failed policies is no good, we need some fresh thinking.
The Belgians should be reminded of the 1839 Treaty of London, by which we have protected their dysfunctional little country ever since and guaranteed its neutrality.
This Labour debate is awful. Haven't learnt the lessons of the past couple of General Elections - May has never had it so easy.
As we saw from the Labour and Conservative leadership races, we are desperately short of good politicians. The same, of course, is true in America.
It isn't just shortage of quality politicians, it is shortage of good ideas. At the moment it is basically more of the same vs back to the Socialist 70s (Smith even just said that, back to good old fashioned Socialist policies).
There are lots of problems, rehashing failed policies is no good, we need some fresh thinking.
@SophyRidgeSky: As Owen Smith talks about spending more on the NHS, Corbyn supporter shouts out: "You would spend it on Trident!" https://t.co/iClzA2iopa
The Belgians should be reminded of the 1839 Treaty of London, by which we have protected their dysfunctional little country ever since and guaranteed its neutrality.
Ungrateful sods.
"Favourable" is meaningless.
We aren't going to convince 26 countries to act against their best interests. We must convince them that agreement to any deal is in those interests.
Does Owen Smilth genuinely think the answer to the Brexit vote is more EU? Is the man a complete feckwit?
Yes, and a gobby one as well.
He comes across like a sketch comedy character. I keep expecting him to launch into a Catherine Tate script about giving the Tories a swift backhander across the face.
I've seen higher quality debates at high school debating societies (where most of the people are only there because they were told it looks good on their UCAS form) than this shit show.
Aaron Banks described described Vote Leave’s Dominic Cummings and Matthew Elliot as “two of the nastiest individuals I have ever had the misfortune to meet”, and that he “wouldn’t put them in charge of the local sweet shop”.
(It's a little depressing that he's no longer considered relevant as part of a broader collection - not a comment on him particularly, but a more general observation )
Madame Tussauds is pretty ruthless in discarding any celebrities they no longer consider relevant
My point exactly: a 6 year PM lasts less than a month
Does Owen Smilth genuinely think the answer to the Brexit vote is more EU? Is the man a complete feckwit?
Yes, and a gobby one as well.
He comes across like a sketch comedy character. I keep expecting him to launch into a Catherine Tate script about giving the Tories a swift backhander across the face.
'Great second attempt by May...the first attempt blew up in her face (and see clearly either didn't check or didn't care).'
What's the point of the inquiry,it will take years,burn millions of pounds and nobody will be blamed / held to account.
Surely we should learn from the three Iraq inquiries.
Wasn't the Chilcot inquiry quite damning in the end?
Really? Has anyone been held to account? Has anything changed? Did it even reveal anything that was not already known? It made the headlines for one day and then sank without trace. A massive waste of time and money.
'Great second attempt by May...the first attempt blew up in her face (and see clearly either didn't check or didn't care).'
What's the point of the inquiry,it will take years,burn millions of pounds and nobody will be blamed / held to account.
Surely we should learn from the three Iraq inquiries.
Wasn't the Chilcot inquiry quite damning in the end?
Really? Has anyone been held to account? Has anything changed? Did it even reveal anything that was not already known? It made the headlines for one day and then sank without trace. A massive waste of time and money.
As much as I enjoyed seeing Blair sweat, it wasn't worth 10 million quid.
Hayes and Harlington CLP: Corbyn Gateshead CLP: Corbyn Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse CLP: Corbyn Hackney South CLP: Corbyn 96 Smith 61 Mid Derbyshire: Corbyn 41 Smith 19 Edinburgh North and Leith: Corbyn Totnes: Corbyn
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I hear John Chilcot is also free these days.
https://www.goodreads.com/user/show/27333889-zakaria-bulhan
Here are the current members:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_the_Companions_of_Honour#Current_Companions
19 British politicians, of whom 16 are Tories.
Clinton 50 .. Trump 44
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3004468-UPI-CVoter-Release-2016-August-3FINAL.html
"Cornwall is the worst. You could say the same thing about the North East, the north West, and Wales"
WTF?
Also looks like he didn't hear Q "will you commit to it?"
(It's a little depressing that he's no longer considered relevant as part of a broader collection - not a comment on him particularly, but a more general observation )
http://www.caringforourchildrenfoundation.org/dame-lowell-goddards-inquiry-into-historical-child-sex-abuse-could-cost-the-taxpayer/
It is to be regretted that Goddard chose not to actually do the job in a timely and appropriate fashion. But it was surely her decision how to run things - not the Home Office. If it had been otherwise, people would be complaining about political interference.
Not everything that goes wrong in public life is actually the fault of a politician. Amazing as that may seem.
Borrow £200bn...
Awesome
"Council houses with lifetime tenancies..."
Awesome
There are lots of problems, rehashing failed policies is no good, we need some fresh thinking.
Ungrateful sods.
But.. we are weird on pb.
'Corbyn getting skewered on the EU. But Smith's position calling for a second referendum is a disgrace.'
The welsh version of Hollande did a crap job of trying to persuade his fellow countrymen to stay in the EU.
:shakes fist:
We aren't going to convince 26 countries to act against their best interests. We must convince them that agreement to any deal is in those interests.
'Great second attempt by May...the first attempt blew up in her face (and see clearly either didn't check or didn't care).'
What's the point of the inquiry,it will take years,burn millions of pounds and nobody will be blamed / held to account.
Surely we should learn from the three Iraq inquiries.
'This is awful. Smith is heroic for standing up to the mob.'
He's just crap,makes Kinnock look like a statesman.
'Wasn't the Chilcot inquiry quite damning in the end?'
One embarrassing day for Blair for all the carnage,chaos and suffering ?
But someone will always be there to be perfectly on message.
I notice the BBC don't seem to be able to find out his name again. A live blog about everything we know, except the name. I blame the Tory cuts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-36979491
I wonder if it will be any better than the reboot of Open All Hours? Cos that was f##king awful.
Owen Smith is right...
Labour has a brilliant record...
Awesome
East Lothian CLP: Smith
Hayes and Harlington CLP: Corbyn
Gateshead CLP: Corbyn
Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse CLP: Corbyn
Hackney South CLP: Corbyn 96 Smith 61
Mid Derbyshire: Corbyn 41 Smith 19
Edinburgh North and Leith: Corbyn
Totnes: Corbyn
More to come..
Very simple question re women - he was just giving a boilerplate answer and yet he was looking down and reading it word for word.
Seemed quite extraordinary for a major party leader.