Only morons can think Andrea Leadsom will hold onto on all those Lib Dem seats at the next general election.
Bye bye Tory majority
Morons tend not to have a subtle grasps of the nuances of electoral dynamics. They probably will happily concede the Lib Dem votes, believing that there's a 10% UKIP share there for the taking. It's the same barminess as Corbynites targetting non-voters.
In fairness, 2.8m previously non-voters turned out for the referendum so that logic is not entirely barmy.
For UKIP, targeting previous non-voters is an excellent strategy.
It's very tough to get this type of voter to turn out though. I think this is where "remain" has a long term advantage, the 16 million remain voters ALWAYS vote methinks.
In Norway the EU has become progressively less popular since they decided not to join. 23 June 2016 may well be the high point of pro-EU feeling in the UK.
Isn’t that because they bound by the rules but can’t take part in deciding them?
The do take part in deciding them. The rules only affect companies that export to the EU.
So only 44% of our exports then. Hardly worth bothering with. Oh but then you're right; your local newsagent is now free from the oppressive yoke of the EU. Hoorah!
What percentage of British businesses export anything ?
Our imports account for around 32% of GDP. Those iPhones, oil, natural gas and the like doesn't pay for itself.
Seems high. Maybe my figures are wrong. 2015 $2.8 trillion GDP, $625 billion imports?
Is that your book for the winner or for the loser in this round?
For the overall winner, unfortunately.
Oh dear. You should have listened to Uncle Richard.
I've listened to alot of people regarding this leadership contest. Actually that is alot better than my position was previously. I've had to dig out of a few Osborne holes...
I only have 3 5 star holidays this year and I've had to pay for those myself (albeit Brexit paid for one of them) :tantrum:
Off to Barbados courtesy of the Times next February though - it's worth visiting Timesplus once in a while and clicking the enter competition buttons...
The referendum night was the acme of pb so far. @AndyJS has a place in the pb pantheon for his spreadsheet.
I imagine that some of the financial houses would have paid fortunes for his work, if they'd been aware of it and of its quality.
The spreadsheet I thought would be most useful this year was the one for the local elections. I managed to get it finished within 72 hours of the polls closing. Understandably the local elections this year were a bit overshadowed by other events like the Scottish and Welsh elections and the referendum campaign.
Well, if Gove is to win he needs to pick up 20-or-so net MPs against Leadsom. Where are they going to come from? Crabb's support will largely go straight to May, and although Fox backed May, some of his support might split for Leadsom or Gove. Even if all of Fox's supporters (unlikley) back Gove, that still won't be enough.
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
She's going nowhere. Just like her Kipper soulmate. Love or loathe them, they can operate. Nige created, dictated the terms of, and won the EU referendum.
Leadsome will, sadly IMO, very probably take an increasingly large role in the Conservative govt, no matter who leads it.
Relatedly, do we reckon it was a freak result or has the quality of online polls vs phone polls reached crossover?
The performance of telephone pollsters would have been better, had they not tweeked their final results to make them more favourable to Remain.
Both Ipsos Mori and ORB would have produced leads of 51/49 for Remain, on a like for like basis. Final adjustments made those figures 54/46 and 52/48 for Remain. Survation's last poll had 51/49 for Remain, as well. We don't unfortunately, have any eve of poll numbers for ICM, although their last two telephone polls gave leads of 4% and 6% for Leave.
I think the big surprise was the rise in turnout to 72%, and that it was poorer voters (rather than younger voters) who drove that rise in turnout, favouring Leave.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
She's going nowhere. Just like her Kipper soulmate. Love or loathe them, they can operate. Nige created, dictated the terms of, and won the EU referendum.
Leadsome will, sadly IMO, very probably take an increasingly large role in the Conservative govt, no matter who leads it.
I only have 3 5 star holidays this year and I've had to pay for those myself (albeit Brexit paid for one of them) :tantrum: Off to Barbados courtesy of the Times next February though
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
She's going nowhere. Just like her Kipper soulmate. Love or loathe them, they can operate. Nige created, dictated the terms of, and won the EU referendum.
Leadsome will, sadly IMO, very probably take an increasingly large role in the Conservative govt, no matter who leads it.
Only morons can think Andrea Leadsom will hold onto on all those Lib Dem seats at the next general election.
Bye bye Tory majority
Morons tend not to have a subtle grasps of the nuances of electoral dynamics. They probably will happily concede the Lib Dem votes, believing that there's a 10% UKIP share there for the taking. It's the same barminess as Corbynites targetting non-voters.
In fairness, 2.8m previously non-voters turned out for the referendum so that logic is not entirely barmy.
For UKIP, targeting previous non-voters is an excellent strategy.
It's very tough to get this type of voter to turn out though. I think this is where "remain" has a long term advantage, the 16 million remain voters ALWAYS vote methinks.
In Norway the EU has become progressively less popular since they decided not to join. 23 June 2016 may well be the high point of pro-EU feeling in the UK.
Isn’t that because they bound by the rules but can’t take part in deciding them?
The do take part in deciding them. The rules only affect companies that export to the EU.
So only 44% of our exports then. Hardly worth bothering with. Oh but then you're right; your local newsagent is now free from the oppressive yoke of the EU. Hoorah!
What percentage of British businesses export anything ?
Our imports account for around 32% of GDP. Those iPhones, oil, natural gas and the like doesn't pay for itself.
Seems high. Maybe my figures are wrong. 2015 $2.8 trillion GDP, $625 billion imports?
Another interesting point about this site (no idea of its veracity) is that it says:
The United Kingdom borders Ireland by land and Antigua and Barbuda by sea.
What?? Sean - global travel correspondent's view pls.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Wonder what your thoughts would be if Thatcher was running for todays leadership, would thatcher be going through the same smears has leadsom ?
For me , I just want it ended today,can't stand two more months of this.
Thatcher received a ton of abuse for being provincial, lower middle class, right wing, a woman, buying clothes from Marks and Spencer etc. both when she ran, and after her election as leader. Undoubtedly, social media today would be more vicious.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Because of the way they walk?
More general than that. Look at them all - a bunch of weirdos, nutters and oddballs. Entirely typical of UKIP and the extreme Tory Right, with a few notable exceptions.
I only have 3 5 star holidays this year and I've had to pay for those myself (albeit Brexit paid for one of them) :tantrum: Off to Barbados courtesy of the Times next February though
He could have added that the implied probability of Brexit was higher than the raw numbers looked from the GBP-denominated markets, because they were correctly assuming that Leave pounds would be worth substantially less than Remain pounds.
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Because of the way they walk?
More general than that. Look at them all - a bunch of weirdos, nutters and oddballs. Entirely typical of UKIP and the extreme Tory Right, with a few notable exceptions.
It didn't realise you could tell so much about people just from looking at them.
Well, if Gove is to win he needs to pick up 20-or-so net MPs against Leadsom. Where are they going to come from? Crabb's support will largely go straight to May, and although Fox backed May, some of his support might split for Leadsom or Gove. Even if all of Fox's supporters (unlikley) back Gove, that still won't be enough.
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
Gove is tonight's dockside hooker.
Welcome back Mr Grabcocque. You are assuming that there was no tactical voting in the first round.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Because of the way they walk?
More general than that. Look at them all - a bunch of weirdos, nutters and oddballs. Entirely typical of UKIP and the extreme Tory Right, with a few notable exceptions.
It didn't realise you could tell so much about people just from looking at them.
That's nothing. Tyson could make pronouncements about people he'd never even seen, met, or indeed, actually existed outside of his deluded imagination.
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Because of the way they walk?
More general than that. Look at them all - a bunch of weirdos, nutters and oddballs. Entirely typical of UKIP and the extreme Tory Right, with a few notable exceptions.
It didn't realise you could tell so much about people just from looking at them.
That's nothing. Tyson could make pronouncements about people he'd never even seen, met, or indeed, actually existed outside of his deluded imagination.
He could have added that the implied probability of Brexit was higher than the raw numbers looked from the GBP-denominated markets, because they were correctly assuming that Leave pounds would be worth substantially less than Remain pounds.
A fair point. A one in four chance that something will happen is quite a high chance that it will happen.
What would be hilarious is if there was a tie for last place tonight and we have to go though the rigmarole again on Tuesday. Good for most on here though
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
The opinion polls should actually be able to take account of that.
It looks as though HS2 Ltd are considering knocking £1 billion off the cost of the second stage by not serving Sheffield directly. Instead the line will head east between Sheffield and Doncaster, with a branch allowing classic-compatible trains from Sheffield to join the line somewhere (I think) in the Pinxton / Alfreton area.
It'd be interesting to see how this affects the BCR.
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
In the case of the referendum it didn't take account of the Working class unfranchised voting. The moment I knew leave had won was when the anecdotes of people who didn't know how to vote were going into polling stations and the reports of more people vorting than ever before in council estate type areas...
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
That's an excellent point. Thank you.
Worth scrolling down to the "when did you decide" graphic
It looks as though HS2 Ltd are considering knocking £1 billion off the cost of the second stage by not serving Sheffield directly. Instead the line will head east between Sheffield and Doncaster, with a branch allowing classic-compatible trains from Sheffield to join the line somewhere (I think) in the Pinxton / Alfreton area.
It'd be interesting to see how this affects the BCR.
Step 1... Step 2 will be the cancellation of the Sheffield branch line due to lack of demand....
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
Because of the way they walk?
More general than that. Look at them all - a bunch of weirdos, nutters and oddballs. Entirely typical of UKIP and the extreme Tory Right, with a few notable exceptions.
It didn't realise you could tell so much about people just from looking at them.
That's nothing. Tyson could make pronouncements about people he'd never even seen, met, or indeed, actually existed outside of his deluded imagination.
I know May's camp have come out against tactical voting against Leadsom but what sort of result should she be looking for today?
Pile up as many votes as she possibly can from across the spectrum of the party so it makes it such a hard decision for the membership to not back her? I think that's the best approach personally.
I guess the result will show obviously about what happened, there is no way Gove gets into the final two unless she lends him votes.
On topic have posted several times that the betting markets did not take account of postal votes .most were sent in at a time when' leave were furthest ahead in the polls and had older demographics.i estimate that the 10 million or so postal vote spilt 6miilion to 4million in favour of leave.Remain won on the day 51.49 but this as not enough to offset leaves 2 million majority from postal votes.
In the case of the referendum it didn't take account of the Working class unfranchised voting. The moment I knew leave had won was when the anecdotes of people who didn't know how to vote were going into polling stations and the reports of more people vorting than ever before in council estate type areas...
“What do we want? Leadsom for leader!” Loughton leads a march on Parliament - I cannot think of anything I can recall connected to the party that is so embarrassing and childish.
Well, if Gove is to win he needs to pick up 20-or-so net MPs against Leadsom. Where are they going to come from? Crabb's support will largely go straight to May, and although Fox backed May, some of his support might split for Leadsom or Gove. Even if all of Fox's supporters (unlikley) back Gove, that still won't be enough.
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
Gove is tonight's dockside hooker.
Welcome back Mr Grabcocque. You are assuming that there was no tactical voting in the first round.
Possibly I have. Let's workshop this. Which candidate would have felt confident enough going in the first round to do this. Only May and Gove, I think. May has explcitly denied she's done this, and if Gove's people had been tactically signal boosting Leadsom, why the panicked manoeuvres to try to stop her now?
I know May's camp have come out against tactical voting against Leadsom but what sort of result should she be looking for today?
Pile up as many votes as she possibly can from across the spectrum of the party so it makes it such a hard decision for the membership to not back her? I think that's the best approach personally.
I guess the result will show obviously about what happened, there is no way Gove gets into the final two unless she lends him votes.
I agree that she should aim to maximise her vote. She's going to win anyway, so why try to be too clever by half?
The support of the likes of Davis, Fox and Patel should certainly help May if she is up against Leadsom with the members.
Unless they judge (perhaps accurately) that those people are only backing May because they want to be in the future PM's good books when she's putting together her Cabinet, rather than out of principle.
Well, if Gove is to win he needs to pick up 20-or-so net MPs against Leadsom. Where are they going to come from? Crabb's support will largely go straight to May, and although Fox backed May, some of his support might split for Leadsom or Gove. Even if all of Fox's supporters (unlikley) back Gove, that still won't be enough.
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
Gove is tonight's dockside hooker.
Welcome back Mr Grabcocque. You are assuming that there was no tactical voting in the first round.
Yes, there could have been some tacticals for Leadsom in Round 1 which then switch to Gove in Round 2.
But even allowing for that, I think there would need to be increased tactical voting - ie some people who voted May in R1 have to vote Gove in R2.
Also if they are attempting this they need to build in a cushion - ie aim to get Gove 5 to 10 votes ahead of Leadsom as they don't have perfect information. There's no point depressing May by say 25 if Gove is still short by a few. If they're attempting this they need to be sure they've done enough.
It looks as though HS2 Ltd are considering knocking £1 billion off the cost of the second stage by not serving Sheffield directly. Instead the line will head east between Sheffield and Doncaster, with a branch allowing classic-compatible trains from Sheffield to join the line somewhere (I think) in the Pinxton / Alfreton area.
It'd be interesting to see how this affects the BCR.
Step 1... Step 2 will be the cancellation of the Sheffield branch line due to lack of demand....
Well, people want it cheaper....
But I doubt that would happen, mainly for either political reasons.
On another note: Andrea Leadsom seems anti-HS2 and she's sitting on the fence wrt Heathrow R3.
The support of the likes of Davis, Fox and Patel should certainly help May if she is up against Leadsom with the members.
Unless they judge (perhaps accurately) that those people are only backing May because they want to be in the future PM's good books when she's putting together her Cabinet, rather than out of principle.
I would assume both Davis and Fox probably don't expect a cabinet position no matter if they support May or not.
Well, if Gove is to win he needs to pick up 20-or-so net MPs against Leadsom. Where are they going to come from? Crabb's support will largely go straight to May, and although Fox backed May, some of his support might split for Leadsom or Gove. Even if all of Fox's supporters (unlikley) back Gove, that still won't be enough.
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
Gove is tonight's dockside hooker.
Welcome back Mr Grabcocque. You are assuming that there was no tactical voting in the first round.
Possibly I have. Let's workshop this. Which candidate would have felt confident enough going in the first round to do this. Only May and Gove, I think. May has explcitly denied she's done this, and if Gove's people had been tactically signal boosting Leadsom, why the panicked manoeuvres to try to stop her now?
May has indeed denied it, but MPs could easily have acted on their own accord. If Leadsom is to be eliminated, better she does that with her vote falling. It will look like MPs have taken fright at the CV stuff. Or the Select Committee questioning. Or the crazy march. Or the bizarre medical theories. Or the support from Arron Banks. Edit: Or the Who's Who entry.
The support of the likes of Davis, Fox and Patel should certainly help May if she is up against Leadsom with the members.
Unless they judge (perhaps accurately) that those people are only backing May because they want to be in the future PM's good books when she's putting together her Cabinet, rather than out of principle.
Yes, but it should help on TV programmes etc.
If Gove supports May then we're going to be in a situation where literally everyone who the average member would have heard of will be supporting May with just one exception - Boris.
I am still keeping everything crossed for Gove to make the ballot paper. I don't personally think he's that bad as far as tories go, BUT he is also a spectacularly crap politician, and would in my view be very unpopular with the public and find it very difficult to win a general election (yes, even against Corbyn).
Leadsom might prove to be unpopular with the public too, but the idea of her as PM is too scary to contemplate even for 5 minutes, regardless of how bad it is for the Tories' electoral fortunes.
May is probably the best PM for the interests of the country, but she would also I fear be hugely good for the Tories' electoral fortunes.
@PickardJE: Gary Gibbon asked Leadsom today if God had directly spoken to her. “That question is not one that is for open laughing at and poking fun at"
According to the media vox pox many people voted to stop Muslim migration (!?), you did a piece on how people way overestimate numbers of immgrants and Muslims in Britain and that might win it for Leave.
I know May's camp have come out against tactical voting against Leadsom but what sort of result should she be looking for today?
Pile up as many votes as she possibly can from across the spectrum of the party so it makes it such a hard decision for the membership to not back her? I think that's the best approach personally.
I guess the result will show obviously about what happened, there is no way Gove gets into the final two unless she lends him votes.
I agree that she should aim to maximise her vote. She's going to win anyway, so why try to be too clever by half?
Indeed – for all the talk of tactical games, the result (so far) has been in line with the polls.
As for the Con Home poll, rubbish in, rubbish out - as expected.
Rowena Mason of the BBC on Andrea Leadsom's latest efforts to extricate herself from the tangled web of her CV: "Leadsom says she's never said she was a fund manager. Nov 2010 in HoC: "I have been in investment banking and funds management for 23 years""
The support of the likes of Davis, Fox and Patel should certainly help May if she is up against Leadsom with the members.
Unless they judge (perhaps accurately) that those people are only backing May because they want to be in the future PM's good books when she's putting together her Cabinet, rather than out of principle.
And as we know from previous leadership elections going back 20ys, public pledges don't equal secret ballot votes.
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May -14.03
Gove +163.01
Leadsom -88.22
#ComeonGove
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.125439276
She's so clearly a UKIP plant in the Tory Party.
She and her supporters scare me. Let's hope her dreams die today.
I only have 3 5 star holidays this year and I've had to pay for those myself (albeit Brexit paid for one of them) :tantrum:
Off to Barbados courtesy of the Times next February though - it's worth visiting Timesplus once in a while and clicking the enter competition buttons...
So he needs either May to secretly get her people to vote tactically having publicly said she wouldn't, or for Andrea Leadsom's value proposition to suddenly collapse against Gove. If anything, the news that Gove has again been on manouvres makes the opposite likely.
Gove is tonight's dockside hooker.
Leadsom on #wato: "I've been very clear, I'm not going to set a date on that."
Reverse ferret
Wouldn't want to second guess either option so I've finished arbing...
Leadsome will, sadly IMO, very probably take an increasingly large role in the Conservative govt, no matter who leads it.
Her time will come.
For me , I just want it ended today,can't stand two more months of this.
Both Ipsos Mori and ORB would have produced leads of 51/49 for Remain, on a like for like basis. Final adjustments made those figures 54/46 and 52/48 for Remain. Survation's last poll had 51/49 for Remain, as well. We don't unfortunately, have any eve of poll numbers for ICM, although their last two telephone polls gave leads of 4% and 6% for Leave.
I think the big surprise was the rise in turnout to 72%, and that it was poorer voters (rather than younger voters) who drove that rise in turnout, favouring Leave.
Time to build all the airports, plus HS2, 3 and 4. Mines a pint.
The United Kingdom borders Ireland by land and Antigua and Barbuda by sea.
What?? Sean - global travel correspondent's view pls.
What?? Sean - global travel correspondent's view pls.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Territorial_waters_-_United_Kingdom.svg/2000px-Territorial_waters_-_United_Kingdom.svg.png
Yes, there are UK territorial waters in the Caribbean.
God Bless the UK!
TSE would been for Willie rather than a Maggie!
https://blog.hypermind.com/2016/07/04/brexit-pundits-embarrass-themselves-with-misguided-attacks-on-prediction-markets/
He could have added that the implied probability of Brexit was higher than the raw numbers looked from the GBP-denominated markets, because they were correctly assuming that Leave pounds would be worth substantially less than Remain pounds.
I would have been on Team Peyton
Don't forget milk snatcher would have hit her hard ;-)
Owen Smith a bit short at 4.5 particularly as he's bottling it - see http://labourlist.org/2016/07/owen-smith-puts-leadership-challenge-on-hold-as-talks-continue-amid-fears-of-labour-split/
Us kids were all incredibly grateful - our full-fat school milk was left to warm on the central heating pipes and was utterly disgusting.
FTSE only up 90-odd shock
It looks as though HS2 Ltd are considering knocking £1 billion off the cost of the second stage by not serving Sheffield directly. Instead the line will head east between Sheffield and Doncaster, with a branch allowing classic-compatible trains from Sheffield to join the line somewhere (I think) in the Pinxton / Alfreton area.
It'd be interesting to see how this affects the BCR.
Edit:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-36716526
http://lordashcroftpolls.com/2016/06/how-the-united-kingdom-voted-and-why/
Pile up as many votes as she possibly can from across the spectrum of the party so it makes it such a hard decision for the membership to not back her? I think that's the best approach personally.
I guess the result will show obviously about what happened, there is no way Gove gets into the final two unless she lends him votes.
There's a similar one on conhome.
But even allowing for that, I think there would need to be increased tactical voting - ie some people who voted May in R1 have to vote Gove in R2.
Also if they are attempting this they need to build in a cushion - ie aim to get Gove 5 to 10 votes ahead of Leadsom as they don't have perfect information. There's no point depressing May by say 25 if Gove is still short by a few. If they're attempting this they need to be sure they've done enough.
Mr Meeks will be pleased: http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/10/03/antifranks-501-tip-to-be-next-labour-leader/
But I doubt that would happen, mainly for either political reasons.
On another note: Andrea Leadsom seems anti-HS2 and she's sitting on the fence wrt Heathrow R3.
Two-party preferred:
Labor: 5,194,326
Liberal/National Coalition: 5,193,865
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-20499.htm
If you're a remainer, that's a bad thing.
Look what you've done. Look what a mess you've made. Now away you go and think very carefully before voting again.
If Gove supports May then we're going to be in a situation where literally everyone who the average member would have heard of will be supporting May with just one exception - Boris.
Leadsom might prove to be unpopular with the public too, but the idea of her as PM is too scary to contemplate even for 5 minutes, regardless of how bad it is for the Tories' electoral fortunes.
May is probably the best PM for the interests of the country, but she would also I fear be hugely good for the Tories' electoral fortunes.
What Labour really needs right now is a former leader to take over the reins again as a unifying leader. Sandwich-handling ability optional.
As for the Con Home poll, rubbish in, rubbish out - as expected.
"Leadsom says she's never said she was a fund manager. Nov 2010 in HoC: "I have been in investment banking and funds management for 23 years""