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Don Brind argues against the Labour leader stepping down in favour of a unity candidate.Jeremy Corbyn must be ousted by the members if Labour’s credibility with the voters is to have any chance of being rescued. The idea of him standing down in favour of a unity candidate is understandable – but wrong.
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May 94 .. Crabb 22 .. Gove 18 .. Leadsom 18 .. Fox 7
https://twitter.com/election_data/status/748924405250678784
The Conservatives are well-advanced on their own leadership battle. Labour risk being caught with their pants down if a new Conservative leader immediately decides to test her authority with the electorate to get a new mandate.
May's opponents are scrabbling about to be a distant second and from then not embarrass themselves as the voting continues.
Depending on May's lead in the later rounds they may decide to call it quits before the members get to vote.
Labour are all talking about a challenge, but all we've seen is a pile of resignations, a meaningless vote of confidence and a load of muttering about how someone should challenge him. Oh, and non-MP David Miliband at 8/1, what the...
And he is doing his version of blood, toil, tears and sweat.
KEEPCorbyn rally in Manchester...
Liverpool's having one tomorrow.
But presently it's like a 10,000 metre race with May a lap ahead and the others elbowing each off the track and looking suspiciously at Gove as he reaches for his ancestral skean dhu stuffed down his shorts.
And of course, MPs can switch their voted in the second and subsequent ballots.
Also worth noting that if Labour had the Tories' rules, Corbyn wouldn't have been elected in the first place (probably Burnham; if not, Cooper), and would without question now be out.
https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft/status/748926554500009984
They may also be extremely concerned at being roped into a Gove event and then miss their summer holidays.
But I'd be wary of extrapolating that to the membership and £3ers as a whole - even the least active member is quite capable of sending back a vote. The YouGov looks about right to me. The missing element is a persuasive challenger (or, so far, any challenger at all). A strong challenger who put up a persuasive platform could well win. But I don't think the membership will buy someone running predominantly on a Dump Jeremy ticket.
[I find your avatar a little disconcerting... might be time to get Ozzy's 'so money supermarket' photo back out on mine to offset it]
Ruined my plans to have dinner in Piccadilly Gardens.
Put them in the mix with a candidate from the soft left, the centre and the right of the party - the best each strand has to offer - and we can have a contest based on policy, safe in the knowledge that all of the candidates have the leadership qualities needed to take them to No. 10.
I can but hope.
And will @Scrapheap stop using my name in vain.
You must know Corbyn cannot ever win a GE, nor can anyone whom he nominates to follow him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgmMYsjCCJ0
On 20 May 2013, whilst debating the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill, Howarth warned of "the aggressive homosexual community who see this as but a stepping stone to something even further." Howarth failed to clarify what the something further would be.
Robert Goodwill
In 2000 whilst working as a Conservative MEP, Goodwill sparked controversy when he was quoted as saying "I fly from Leeds/Bradford to Brussels and we get a set fee of around £500, but if I buy a cheaper ticket, economy class for about £160 and £250, I can pocket the difference and, as a capitalist, also as a British Conservative, I see it as a challenge to buy cheap tickets and make some profit on the system"
David Nuttall
In 2013 Nuttall was one of four MPs who camped outside Parliament in a move to facilitate parliamentary debate on what they called an “Alternative Queen’s Speech”—an attempt to show what a future Conservative government might deliver. Some 42 policies were listed including reintroduction of the death penalty and conscription, privatizing the BBC, banning the burka in public places and preparation to leave the European Union.
Then again openly gay Iain Stewart was shortlisted by Stonewall for MP of the year in 2012, and he is a fox supporter..
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And if in a few years once we are out and have RoW trade deals, if it becomes a nuisance we can reconsider EFTA/EEA again.
Further since WWII all PM's taking office during a term have not called a general election - Eden, Macmillan, Home, Callaghan, Major, Brown and shortly May.
So, why are there eight weeks for that stage, surely it would be possible to do it in four?
Election postal votes go out about three weeks before, even to overseas voters like me. I'd have no problem getting my vote back in the same timescale, so does anyone know why it's taking so long?
I don't want to see a coronation (see Gordon Brown for why) but taking two months when there's plenty of stuff for the new PM to be doing, seems somewhat self indulgent by the party.
Am I being too optimistic in hoping for candidates to suggest what their plan for brexit is?
I want to know where they stand on single market and immigration- I can't see how we can win without a clear position on those issues... at least Gove has a plan!
Of all Unite members polled, 49% said this should happen, with even 48% of those who said they voted Labour in 2015 agreeing. If there was a new leadership election, 44% of the Labour backers would oppose Corbyn, against 43% who would support him, the survey found.
The poll has a relatively low sample of 775, but makes for difficult reading for the Corbyn camp. Of Labour voters, 61% think Corbyn is doing badly in the job, and only 20% of them think he will ever become prime minister.
And she is about as pro EU as corbyn anyway.
Also we have to join EFTA, anything else would be too far too fast and risk the economy which would play into the hands of socialist remainer doom mongers.
And as I said above, there are freedom of movement getouts in EFTA and if it is still a big problem in a few years when we are out of the EU, have RoW trade deals etc, we can look at it again.
Watson is seeking to organise a meeting with Corbyn’s closest advisers to try to agree a negotiated settlement that would see the Labour leader step down voluntarily, thus avoiding an acrimonious and drawn-out battle.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/01/tom-watson-calls-on-labour-mps-to-prevent-leadership-contest?CMP=share_btn_tw
He stressed he “did not want” to be Prime Minister, adding: “Whatever charisma is I don’t have it, whatever glamour may be I don’t think anyone could ever associate me with it.”
What a mess! - I'll give him two days, maximum, before he quits. His political career is over however you look at it, a complete self-destruct job.