Kate Green has resigned as shadow equalities minister.
Who are the ones who won't jump? Presumably McDonnell, the Jellyfish, Abbott, and Thornberry. And Watson will play neutral. Anyone else?
Those seeking party nominations to be the elected mayor of Manchester or Liverpool won't resign as they need to stay on the right side of the membership.
Interesting aside on how much the UK was (and still is currently) actually contributing to the EU.
"EU commissoner sees 15% fall in EU budget post-Brexit
Britain's exit from the EU will result in a 15% drop in the bloc's annual budget from 2020, Cornia Cretu, the EU Regional Policy Commissioner, said today"
I wont believe that until I see it written on a bus.
Interesting aside on how much the UK was (and still is currently) actually contributing to the EU.
"EU commissoner sees 15% fall in EU budget post-Brexit
Britain's exit from the EU will result in a 15% drop in the bloc's annual budget from 2020, Cornia Cretu, the EU Regional Policy Commissioner, said today"
Sounds about right. We account for something like 18% of the GDP, but pay less than our 'fair' share because of what's left of Maggie's rebate.
If you like what Brexit is doing to the pound and the stock market, wait until it gets going on house prices. That's when Boris gets strung up from a lamp-post.
Yes please, at least 25% needs to come off London prices...
I like what Brexit is doing to the pound. Keeping the pound artificially low and boosting UK manufacturing industry, a bit like the effect of the Euro on German industry. Here in the West Midlands that's a good thing - about time we rebalanced the UK economy away from financial services.
As for house prices, I recall that Osborne tried that threat for a day or so and then didn't mention it for the rest of the campaign. Funny that.
A plunging pound is not that good for manufacturing as the cost of imported raw materials goes up.
Costs of fuel too.
To do the sum for you, Dr Fox.
Say we are exporting widget A to the USA. Our costs are $10 for the imported oil and $10 for the imported raw material (both sold at $ prices on the international markets). The labour is GBP20 at GBP1 = US1.50. So labour costs $30. We sell for $80, our profit is $30, or GBP20
The GBP falls to 1 = $1.00
Now our imported fuel costs $10, our imported raw materials cost $10, our labour costs GBP 20 which is now $20, we sell for $80, our profits are $40, which is now GBP40
Profits have gone up, whichever currency they are expressed in. At the cost of the labourer who can now buy fewer imported goods.
How about profits on manufacturing and services companies who don't export goods or services?
That was not what was being discussed. For those selling to the domestic market, costs of imported fuel and materials go up, labour costs remain the same, all other things being equal. But costs for domestic manufacturing expressed in GBP do not go up as fast as costs for those exporting to the UK, as all their costs go up including labour, when expressed in GBP.
To do the sums.
Pound at $1.50 UK producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour GBP20 (=$30) = $60 = GBP40 US producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour $30 = $60 = GBP40
Pound at $1 UK producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour GBP20 = GBP50 US producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour $30 (GBP30) = GBP60
Ergo UK manufacturers gain competitivity in both domestic and export markets. The loser is the domestic consumer.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
Why are Lord Bassam and Angela Smith both unable to resign ?
The peers are a law unto themselves - they elect their own leaders. So as Angela wasn't appointed by Jeremy, she can't sensibly resign even if she wanted to.
Yes there will be questions to our lame duck prime minister, possibly from a leader opposition thats more knives than man. Expect sullen silence from both benches as two men that noone want don't ask or answer questions of any relevance.
Can't parliament just copy the Telly? PMQs has been postponed and replaced by a rerun of the Antiques Roadshow?
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
G' Live Angela Eagle says Corbyn should examine his conscience and resign
Angela Eagle, who resigned earlier as shadow business secretary, is on the World at One now explaining her decision. She sounds close to tears.
She tried to make it work, she says. During the deputy leadership contest she said she would serve the new leader. But Jeremy Corbyn is not suited to the job, she says. During the EU referendum he could not communicate Labour’s message properly.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
G' Live Angela Eagle says Corbyn should examine his conscience and resign
Angela Eagle, who resigned earlier as shadow business secretary, is on the World at One now explaining her decision. She sounds close to tears.
She tried to make it work, she says. During the deputy leadership contest she said she would serve the new leader. But Jeremy Corbyn is not suited to the job, she says. During the EU referendum he could not communicate Labour’s message properly.
Angela Eagle should take a good hard look at herself in the mirror. And despair.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
@paulwaugh: How bad things are: planned photocall to greet new Tooting MP @DrRosena has been cancelled amid fears MPs wd boycott it cos organised by JC
@paulwaugh: How bad things are: planned photocall to greet new Tooting MP @DrRosena has been cancelled amid fears MPs wd boycott it cos organised by JC
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
Correct. And as parliament only recognises the leader in the Commons the Corbynistas would rapidly become an irrelevance
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
If Corbyn's determined not to resign (which seems likely, he has waited to 40 years to mold the party in his image) and the members continue to love him, one can imagine that the sensible wing of the PLP have little choice but to resign the whip and form SDP2. The trick is to have more than half the PMs go, such that SDP2 become the official Opposition. Given the current mood that's entirely possible.
''Yup - every buyer will be thrilled and the sellers even more ecstatic at taking a big loss. In post-Brexit Britain everybody is just ticketyboo. ''
Many conservatives are home owners of long standing who would be prepared to accept a 15% fall if it meant their sons, daughters and younger work colleagues had a chance to get on the property ladder sometime soon.
Link? Isn't that the same one which says everyone is happy that everyone else pays more tax to fund the NHS? Any true conservative knows something about market forces and understands that a rapidly devalued currency is the smell arising form an economic garbage.
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
This is precisely what is holding the FTSE100 up.
The FTSE 250 on the other hand is a downhill ski slope.
Interesting aside on how much the UK was (and still is currently) actually contributing to the EU.
"EU commissoner sees 15% fall in EU budget post-Brexit
Britain's exit from the EU will result in a 15% drop in the bloc's annual budget from 2020, Cornia Cretu, the EU Regional Policy Commissioner, said today"
I wont believe that until I see it written on a bus.
Well the 15% is not quite exact. The budget drops by 15% - but the money given back to the UK has to taken into account - so we are looking at a drop of 7.5% as a rule of thumb for the other countries.
Of course if the 15% was the NET figure the UK paid to the EU then the £350 million a week sounds pretty close.
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
Good news.
You've said that if you were younger you'd emigrate to Singapore or the US. Hopefully now that the UK is independent you'll be a happier citizen.
Have to say, A Eagles is clearly broken hearted - she even sniffed.
She's not ruling herself out from standing - I still vote for her. She was terrible during Remain, but in HoC she's very effective at the tribal stuff.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
If Corbyn's determined not to resign (which seems likely, he has waited to 40 years to mold the party in his image) and the members continue to love him, one can imagine that the sensible wing of the PLP have little choice but to resign the whip and form SDP2. The trick is to have more than half the PMs go, such that SDP2 become the official Opposition. Given the current mood that's entirely possible.
The trick there would be to have some big donors lined up.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
I reckon that is pretty much where we are. The new party would need to find some money PDQ to contest the election, but I doubt that would be a huge problem. There'd be a few big donors.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
If Corbyn's determined not to resign (which seems likely, he has waited to 40 years to mold the party in his image) and the members continue to love him, one can imagine that the sensible wing of the PLP have little choice but to resign the whip and form SDP2. The trick is to have more than half the PMs go, such that SDP2 become the official Opposition. Given the current mood that's entirely possible.
The trick there would be to have some big donors lined up.
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
This is precisely what is holding the FTSE100 up.
Also bear in mind that UK property just got a whole lot cheaper for any Americans wanting a London bolt-hole from, say, President Trump....
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
Burnham is probably considering unconditionally lending Corbyn some of his supporters in a show of unity, so that Corbyn can meet the threshold for a shadow cabinet.
''Yup - every buyer will be thrilled and the sellers even more ecstatic at taking a big loss. In post-Brexit Britain everybody is just ticketyboo. ''
Many conservatives are home owners of long standing who would be prepared to accept a 15% fall if it meant their sons, daughters and younger work colleagues had a chance to get on the property ladder sometime soon.
Link? Isn't that the same one which says everyone is happy that everyone else pays more tax to fund the NHS? Any true conservative knows something about market forces and understands that a rapidly devalued currency is the smell arising form an economic garbage.
Taffys is correct on house prices.
A great many people are happy to see their house price fall for the benefit of their children trying to get on the ladder.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
If Corbyn's determined not to resign (which seems likely, he has waited to 40 years to mold the party in his image) and the members continue to love him, one can imagine that the sensible wing of the PLP have little choice but to resign the whip and form SDP2. The trick is to have more than half the PMs go, such that SDP2 become the official Opposition. Given the current mood that's entirely possible.
The trick there would be to have some big donors lined up.
Sainsbury.
There's the City hedge fund bloke as well, plus a few others. I don't think money would be an issue. It would be developing the organisation on the ground in the constituencies.
@paulwaugh: How bad things are: planned photocall to greet new Tooting MP @DrRosena has been cancelled amid fears MPs wd boycott it cos organised by JC
Welcome to the zoo, Dr Rosena!
Has she been given a job and resigned from it yet?
Nick Thomas-Symonds has gone. I was wondering when such a big name would finally go.
Just for a second I misread that as Norman StJohn-Stevas. And my mind wandered back to Peregrine Worsthorne. Those two were always wheeled out as constitutional experts. Who does that stuff now?
''Yup - every buyer will be thrilled and the sellers even more ecstatic at taking a big loss. In post-Brexit Britain everybody is just ticketyboo. ''
Many conservatives are home owners of long standing who would be prepared to accept a 15% fall if it meant their sons, daughters and younger work colleagues had a chance to get on the property ladder sometime soon.
Link? Isn't that the same one which says everyone is happy that everyone else pays more tax to fund the NHS? Any true conservative knows something about market forces and understands that a rapidly devalued currency is the smell arising form an economic garbage.
Presumably our banks will be really keen to lend into a falling market too. The falls in house builders suggests someone isn't feeling too confident about future house buying.
Hollick telling Radio 4 the underlying economy will most likely tip into recession.
Thx Brexiteers!
Not been keeping up with the indices, Mr. Borough, been pointing that way for quite a while? Or perhaps you bought into Gordon Brown's boast that the economic cycle had been abolished. Recessions happen in this country every ten years or so. Therefore you might think that, as some of us have been saying for months, we are due for one in 2017ish and that Osborne's plans for deficit reduction were pure hokum.
@jameskirkup: My attention is elsewhere right now, but glancing at Labour, am transfixed by Andy Burnham's utter awfulness. Truly amazing.
@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
If I were Corbyn, I would be tempted to sack Burnham for being a kiss arse and not having the balls to resign. It would be rather funny and might just save JC.
I wonder what is going through Burnham's mind right now as he contemplates the end of his political career.
Burnham is probably considering unconditionally lending Corbyn some of his supporters in a show of unity, so that Corbyn can meet the threshold for a shadow cabinet.
If Corbyn wins this next leadership election, the entire non-corbynite PLP should simply split off and call themselves Real Labour or something. It would be about 180 MPs at least, and so wouldn't be SDPv2 because that was a small split. This would be the new official opposition. They have no hope with Corbyn - not because he's too left wing, but because he's useless.
If Corbyn's determined not to resign (which seems likely, he has waited to 40 years to mold the party in his image) and the members continue to love him, one can imagine that the sensible wing of the PLP have little choice but to resign the whip and form SDP2. The trick is to have more than half the PMs go, such that SDP2 become the official Opposition. Given the current mood that's entirely possible.
The trick there would be to have some big donors lined up.
If you like what Brexit is doing to the pound and the stock market, wait until it gets going on house prices. That's when Boris gets strung up from a lamp-post.
Yes please, at least 25% needs to come off London prices...
I like what Brexit is doing to the pound. Keeping the pound artificially low and boosting UK manufacturing industry, a bit like the effect of the Euro on German industry. Here in the West Midlands that's a good thing - about time we rebalanced the UK economy away from financial services.
As for house prices, I recall that Osborne tried that threat for a day or so and then didn't mention it for the rest of the campaign. Funny that.
A plunging pound is not that good for manufacturing as the cost of imported raw materials goes up.
Costs of fuel too.
To do the sum for you, Dr Fox.
Say we are exporting widget A to the USA. Our costs are $10 for the imported oil and $10 for the imported raw material (both sold at $ prices on the international markets). The labour is GBP20 at GBP1 = US1.50. So labour costs $30. We sell for $80, our profit is $30, or GBP20
The GBP falls to 1 = $1.00
Now our imported fuel costs $10, our imported raw materials cost $10, our labour costs GBP 20 which is now $20, we sell for $80, our profits are $40, which is now GBP40
Profits have gone up, whichever currency they are expressed in. At the cost of the labourer who can now buy fewer imported goods.
How about profits on manufacturing and services companies who don't export goods or services?
That was not what was being discussed. For those selling to the domestic market, costs of imported fuel and materials go up, labour costs remain the same, all other things being equal. But costs for domestic manufacturing expressed in GBP do not go up as fast as costs for those exporting to the UK, as all their costs go up including labour, when expressed in GBP.
To do the sums.
Pound at $1.50 UK producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour GBP20 (=$30) = $60 = GBP40 US producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour $30 = $60 = GBP40
Pound at $1 UK producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour GBP20 = GBP50 US producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour $30 (GBP30) = GBP60
Ergo UK manufacturers gain competitivity in both domestic and export markets. The loser is the domestic consumer.
That must be wrong - everyone's a winner in post-Brexit Britain [well, apart from the immigrants who can just FO pronto!}
This morning I called Andy Burnham a shiny quacking robot in mascara. I should like to retract that statement. He is an empty cowardly shining quacking robot in mascara.
Wow. Tight. May vs Boris? No one else will have time?
Why not? You only need a proposer and a seconder to get on the first-round ballot.
However, I think the final two will probably be Theresa and Boris. In this chaos, it's either got to be the safest and most unifying figure you can find, or the one who has taken the political initiative (which is undoubtedly Boris, like it or not). But who knows? Surprises have happened before.
The good news is that as we bill mostly in US$ and Euros we are making a very tidy sum from the pound's collapse. It's at times like these when it's good not to have many UK customers.
Good news.
You've said that if you were younger you'd emigrate to Singapore or the US. Hopefully now that the UK is independent you'll be a happier citizen.
Not emigrate, not Singapore. A few years away. Hong Kong is where I'd most have liked to go.
I am a very happy citizen. Like you, none of this really affects me.
Wow. Tight. May vs Boris? No one else will have time?
That is a change, isn't it ?
It's the same timetable as 2005, except with the key difference that the last months of Howard (while the rules were debated) were jockeying time for the candidates. We haven't got anything like that.
''Yup - every buyer will be thrilled and the sellers even more ecstatic at taking a big loss. In post-Brexit Britain everybody is just ticketyboo. ''
Many conservatives are home owners of long standing who would be prepared to accept a 15% fall if it meant their sons, daughters and younger work colleagues had a chance to get on the property ladder sometime soon.
Link? Isn't that the same one which says everyone is happy that everyone else pays more tax to fund the NHS? Any true conservative knows something about market forces and understands that a rapidly devalued currency is the smell arising form an economic garbage.
Taffys is correct on house prices.
A great many people are happy to see their house price fall for the benefit of their children trying to get on the ladder.
You forgot the link. And what about those who are a little younger and will fall into negative equity. Really it's time for you people to stop pretending there are no downsides to what is happening right now. It would certainly give me some much needed hope for the future.
I am a London Welshman, but my impression talking to people back home is that Wales is hungry for change. It has spent decades in the doldrums, and wants to shift up a gear.
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@jameskirkup: Seriously, if anyone can offer an explanation of Andy Burnham, please share. Am utterly baffled.
@jameskirkup: No, not Manchester. I get that. I mean the woefulness he'll accept in hope of getting it. The utter lack of self-respect. The abasement.
http://www.voteleave.org
To do the sums.
Pound at $1.50
UK producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour GBP20 (=$30) = $60 = GBP40
US producer costs: fuel $15 + raw materials $15 + labour $30 = $60 = GBP40
Pound at $1
UK producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour GBP20 = GBP50
US producer costs: fuel $15 (GBP15) + raw materials $15 (GBP15) + labour $30 (GBP30) = GBP60
Ergo UK manufacturers gain competitivity in both domestic and export markets. The loser is the domestic consumer.
Merkel comes out against a dash to deeper EU integration
I think Juncker must be looking a bit wobbly now.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/brexit/liveticker-zum-brexit-und-den-folgen-14300118.html
Can't parliament just copy the Telly? PMQs has been postponed and replaced by a rerun of the Antiques Roadshow?
Personally I would have changed the redirect now to a Lional Richie number...
Angela Eagle, who resigned earlier as shadow business secretary, is on the World at One now explaining her decision. She sounds close to tears.
She tried to make it work, she says. During the deputy leadership contest she said she would serve the new leader. But Jeremy Corbyn is not suited to the job, she says. During the EU referendum he could not communicate Labour’s message properly.
Merkel's priority now is to avoid the loving embrace of France.
Thx Brexiteers!
They simply cannot be in the same party.
Of course if the 15% was the NET figure the UK paid to the EU then the £350 million a week sounds pretty close.
You've said that if you were younger you'd emigrate to Singapore or the US. Hopefully now that the UK is independent you'll be a happier citizen.
She's not ruling herself out from standing - I still vote for her. She was terrible during Remain, but in HoC she's very effective at the tribal stuff.
A great many people are happy to see their house price fall for the benefit of their children trying to get on the ladder.
I am having some doubts about LEAVE but the way the political class have just gone into complete and total meltdown is brilliant.
Presumably our banks will be really keen to lend into a falling market too. The falls in house builders suggests someone isn't feeling too confident about future house buying.
http://news.sky.com/story/1717728/live-brexit-turmoil-engulfs-westminster
However, I think the final two will probably be Theresa and Boris. In this chaos, it's either got to be the safest and most unifying figure you can find, or the one who has taken the political initiative (which is undoubtedly Boris, like it or not). But who knows? Surprises have happened before.
I am a very happy citizen. Like you, none of this really affects me.
I am a London Welshman, but my impression talking to people back home is that Wales is hungry for change. It has spent decades in the doldrums, and wants to shift up a gear.