It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
Zac can still make trouble for Cameron if Heathrow R3 gets the go ahead and Zac forces a by election.
Presumably Zac would stand as an Independent (or Green).
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
Who is this Jo Cox ? Which seat does she represent.
Clearly she was sent out as an outrider by her masters and then they slipped away when the results were not so bad.
Sad, there are Labour Party people who wants Labour to do badly.
MP up my end Batley , used to be quite marginal I think. I think I read she put Corbyn on the ballot for a greater discussion.
Why is she on the TV screens ? Where are the cowardly Blairite puppet-masters.
Chris Leslie was on BBC news channel most of the afternoon very upset. Does he count as a Blairite ?
He is another one obsessed with hating Corbyn. To actually hope that his own party should do badly and then being upset that it didn't shows lack of political maturity.
Cooper, Burnham, even 4% Kendall was nowhere to be seen.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
There's far too much hysteria and self-flagellation here in Wales from liberals about Ukip which bizarrely looks a little parochial for people who see themselves as outward looking. Have they SEEN some of the politicians in other countries? If France gets Le Pen, America gets Trump, the Netherlands gets Wilders and we get Neil Hamilton we should consider ourselves lucky.
Agree. We are commendably un-extreme here.
I often see George and Dave depicted as right wing ideologues and then I see the Trump attack videos "I'll get rid of gun free zones in schools" and think... well, we are incredibly civilised in comparison.
Even commie-sympathising, Hamas befriending, tax raising Jezza is unfailingly polite and nice to everyone. And even bicycles to work with a safety helmet on ☺
Surely the Khan story from a humble start to London Mayor and his support for gay marriage is a great example for London and the rest of the world.
You have seriously low expectations for politicians if humble origins and support for gay marriage — in 2016 — is considered some sort of achievement. That makes him no more exceptional than 10s of millions of other people. Wow, how amazing "he doesn't hate the gays."
It shows Britain at its best a democratic beacon in a troubled world. London should be very proud tonight.
Get a grip. Celebrating the fact a man is not a total nutter like some potential and previous candidates. Surely that is the bare minimum we should expect, not something of note.
It is possible that low turnout could help UKIP but too low turnout doesn't. UKIP appeal is also towards the "they are all bad, I am not voting for anyone anymore" crowd. If only 20% turnout, it's more likely that they are diehards than the disilused.
Mark Burns-Williamson re-elected as West Yorkshire PCC
PPCs finished for today. Only the 4 Welsh PCCs left to be elected but they were not counting today
I was interested to see in Leics that Labour took the PCC from Con on a 19% turnout with no other elections. UKIP were in 4th and about 20% of voters included no second preference.
What to take from this?
1) low turnout doesn't help UKIP much, if at all.
2) Labour voters turn out even for fairly obscure elections
I am not convinced that low turnout will help Leave much.
At what time do we think the London Mayoral results will be officially anounced? I know Khan is unofficially the winner, but I prefer to wait until it's official.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
Murphy scrambled up a greasy pole at the speed of light to get the SLab job. No one else including Miliband was responsible for that.
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
There's far too much hysteria and self-flagellation here in Wales from liberals about Ukip which bizarrely looks a little parochial for people who see themselves as outward looking. Have they SEEN some of the politicians in other countries? If France gets Le Pen, America gets Trump, the Netherlands gets Wilders and we get Neil Hamilton we should consider ourselves lucky.
Agree. We are commendably un-extreme here.
I often see George and Dave depicted as right wing ideologues and then I see the Trump attack videos "I'll get rid of gun free zones in schools" and think... well, we are incredibly civilised in comparison.
Even commie-sympathising, Hamas befriending, tax raising Jezza is unfailingly polite and nice to everyone. And even bicycles to work with a safety helmet on ☺
Mark Burns-Williamson re-elected as West Yorkshire PCC
PPCs finished for today. Only the 4 Welsh PCCs left to be elected but they were counting today
I was at the count for that earlier and left early after becoming bored at the huge amount of time it took to go through the very many spoilt papers (of which hardly any were funny, though an awful lot of people can't follow a simple instruction). It was obvious which way it was going anyway, with the only questions surrounding Burns-Williamson and the 50% hurdle, and the English Democrats and the deposit. The thought of a second round of counting after having had just two hours sleep since early yesterday morning was too much.
Besides, I had my pbc piece to write (so apologies for any dip in quality).
Oh yeah, we also had a scan this morning, scheduled between the counts. It's a boy.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Kezia Dugdale Neil Findlay Mark Griffin Elaine Smith Johann Lamont James Kelly Jenny Marra Lewis McDonald Iain Gray Claudia Beamisch Rhoda Grant David Stewart Alex Rowley Claire Baker Jackie Baillie Neil Bibby Mary Fee Ken McIntosh
Newcomers
Richard Leonard Monica Lennon Anas Sarwar Pauline McNeill (comeback from the 1999-2011 period) Daniel Johnson Colin Smyth
Have you seen Camille Paglia's speculation that she's using high-necked tops to cover up a medical issue?
She also has this to say:
But Hillary, consumed by her own restless bitterness, has no such tranquility. The wheels must grind! The future must be conquered! Past slights must be avenged! So it’s all planning and scheming and piling up loot, the material emblem of existential worth. It’s all talk and more talk about ideals and values without actually achieving anything concrete–except, of course, for Hillary’s one notable legacy, the destabilization of North Africa.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
Zac can still make trouble for Cameron if Heathrow R3 gets the go ahead and Zac forces a by election.
Presumably Zac would stand as an Independent (or Green).
Dave can go ahead with H3 now. Zac allowed himself to become part of a failed and ugly campaign, and is very tarnished goods now, conveniently for Dave/H3...
Have you seen Camille Paglia's speculation that she's using high-necked tops to cover up a medical issue?
She also has this to say:
But Hillary, consumed by her own restless bitterness, has no such tranquility. The wheels must grind! The future must be conquered! Past slights must be avenged! So it’s all planning and scheming and piling up loot, the material emblem of existential worth. It’s all talk and more talk about ideals and values without actually achieving anything concrete–except, of course, for Hillary’s one notable legacy, the destabilization of North Africa.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
If they are imposed without agreement there will be more strikes in June. I am fairly sure that Dave does not want that. Hunt will blink first.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
Zac can still make trouble for Cameron if Heathrow R3 gets the go ahead and Zac forces a by election.
Presumably Zac would stand as an Independent (or Green).
Dave can go ahead with H3 now. Zac allowed himself to become part of a failed and ugly campaign, and is very tarnished goods now, conveniently for Dave/H3...
Wish they would get on with it, whatever one gets done. Ridiculous how many years it has taken.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They'd hate to be put in the position but if it was a choice as in 2010, between a tired administration that'd lost seats and public support on the one hand, and a party that had made gains and had an increased mandate on the other, which rock do you tie yourself to?
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They'd hate to be put in the position but if it was a choice as in 2010, between a tired administration that'd lost seats and public support on the one hand, and a party that had made gains and had an increased mandate on the other, which rock do you tie yourself to?
Neither - let them govern as a minority and have a confidence and supply arrangement.
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They'd hate to be put in the position but if it was a choice as in 2010, between a tired administration that'd lost seats and public support on the one hand, and a party that had made gains and had an increased mandate on the other, which rock do you tie yourself to?
I've seen Klimlov's 1980's WW2 masterpiece "Come and See" again recently, perhaps the most nihilistic film ever made.
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
So it'll have to be Mark Williams, a peer or a councillor/activist then.
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
So it'll have to be Mark Williams, a peer or a councillor/activist then.
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They'd hate to be put in the position but if it was a choice as in 2010, between a tired administration that'd lost seats and public support on the one hand, and a party that had made gains and had an increased mandate on the other, which rock do you tie yourself to?
Neither - let them govern as a minority and have a confidence and supply arrangement.
Not that simple though. Come a confidence question, you have to pick one or the other unless you're willing to instigate new elections.
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
If he's sensible Osborne will be moved.
Absolutely together with Hunt, Nicky Morgan and Justine Greening
I've seen Klimlov's 1980's WW2 masterpiece "Come and See" again recently, perhaps the most nihilistic film ever made.
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They'd hate to be put in the position but if it was a choice as in 2010, between a tired administration that'd lost seats and public support on the one hand, and a party that had made gains and had an increased mandate on the other, which rock do you tie yourself to?
Neither - let them govern as a minority and have a confidence and supply arrangement.
Not that simple though. Come a confidence question, you have to pick one or the other unless you're willing to instigate new elections.
Well, surely only one of them will form a minority government? So it's either support them, or call an election. I'm not totally familiar with the procedure, could they vote down a budget, for example, but then not vote for the motion of no confidence, or is it automatic? (I really should know this)
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
If they are imposed without agreement there will be more strikes in June. I am fairly sure that Dave does not want that. Hunt will blink first.
Let the doctors get on with it but Hunt will not move
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
So it'll have to be Mark Williams, a peer or a councillor/activist then.
Fenster..maybe you should ask those hardliners in the Valleys to stick their head out of the door..look up and own the street..see what is missing..most things..and then ask them what Labour has done for them over the last seven decades....answer..zilch.. They are where Labour want them..impoverished and bitter.
WOW, just wow
Where is your evidence that the Tories are making things better for poor Labour voting regions?
Labour threw a lifeline to areas like Wales and the North East, the Tories have to be dragged kicking and screaming to Port Talbot, not to mention the huge cuts to labour voting councils compared to the leafy Tory shires.
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
So it'll have to be Mark Williams, a peer or a councillor/activist then.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They would not go into Coalition with them no but if they were the largest party they may not vote down a Tory government in a confidence vote either
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They would not go into Coalition with them no but if they were the largest party they may not vote down a Tory government in a confidence vote either
I suspect they would take any opportunity to distance themselves from the Tories.
Alun Michael is currently PCC for South Wales...actually the count is on Sunday but h he should be re-elected. Even if probably he should consider retirement as he's in his 70s. He looked quite old on the labourdoorstep.
It's interesting how party leaders ruin colleagues reputations and careers without a backward glance. Usually to enhance their own. Blair was notable for doing it. Remember that minister Alun Michael prospective first Minister in Wales? He ended up losing because no one wanted a Blair apointee and was sacked for his trouble.
Then there was the hapless frank Dobson for mayor of London. Ken saw him off and Frank was history.
And what about Ed's Scottish first Minister designate. Jim Murphy? Didn't win and lost everything including his Westminster seat. Thatcher had several and now Cameron's just screwed Zak. It's very Machiavellian but I suppose that's what makes leaders leaders
I will be amazed if he doesn't win. Stunned in fact. Mind you I was rubbish yesterday in my prediction Kirsty Williams might not be a shoo in - she was and how! - but at least I was right about Cardiff Central - Labour won by about 800 I think.
Hasn't Kirsty Williams resigned tonight
Yes as leader of the Welsh Lib Dems but she romped home in her constituency. Trouble is she is the Lib Dems in the Assembly. They don't need a taxi a moped will do. Feel sorry for her but they are the main casualties of UKIP's rise.
So it'll have to be Mark Williams, a peer or a councillor/activist then.
Ouch!
No don't misunderstand me, it was very apt. Just "ouch" for the Lib Dems in Wales.
Fox- "Shoah"- I think that is something I couldn't even contemplate watching- I'm just not brave enough. I think it is about ten hours long.
I couldn't get through the opening sequences of Hitchcock's factual documentary on the concentration camps, and that is only a few minutes.
Aside from reading and writing, the Holocaust should be mandatory for all British school kids, in fact all world children. It is something that we should never forget..
I've seen Klimlov's 1980's WW2 masterpiece "Come and See" again recently, perhaps the most nihilistic film ever made.
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
I've seen Klimlov's 1980's WW2 masterpiece "Come and See" again recently, perhaps the most nihilistic film ever made.
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
FPT. If anyone can bear it Oscar winning Hungarian film 'Son of Saul'. It's brilliant. The best concentration camp film ever made.
I don't think I've seen 'Come and See'. I liked the Act of Killing and being a documentary made it very powerful. This is not a documentary but might make you see the world differently. It's a long time since I've seen a film like that
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
Friday after an election: a good day to bury bad news ?
Of course! Haven't we already had one or two U turn... I mean sensible policy decisions today?
You do have to wonder if David Cameron is clearing the decks with the number of recent concessions on the Trade Union Bill, allowing orphaned children in Europe into the UK, the change in Academies to aspiration from compulsion, and new negotiations on the Junior Doctors contracts. I assume he is making way for a thorough cabinet change post the referendum with many on the leave side being promoted into new positions and a whole new direction of travel for the government
I think it is mostly clearing the decks of other hassles so there can ba a complete focus on the Remain campaign, rather than any reshuffle. These are all areas where no hurry is required.
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
I am convinced that post 23rd June David Cameron will have a major cabinet reshuffle and these are all areas that he may well consider as unnecessary hassle. As for the Doctors, agreement will need to take place next week or Hunt will just introduce them anyway
If he's sensible Osborne will be moved.
Absolutely together with Hunt, Nicky Morgan and Justine Greening
Replace Greening with Rudd and I think that will be about the size of it. I expect Javid to make way for Patel at Business where he has been uninspiring and partially responsible for the muddled government reaction to Port Talbot and the poor Tory performance there yesterday.
But the child in the red coat, for that image, Schindler's List is superb. Plus Spielberg has the guts to cast Fiennes, charming, charismatic, handsome as the Commandant. Granted it has it's faults.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
It reminds me Nick of what you wrote to me once and which I still remember well.
You said the Tories aren't that bad...... and actually they are mostly in politics for the right reasons or words to that effect.
I hope you do not mind me divulging the contents of private emails, but it kind of demonstrates what a civilised, balanced sort of chap you are.
That's very kind of you. I come from a mostly Tory background and don't think my various Tory relatives are/were motivated by ill will - I'd argue that they were perhaps a bit blinkered and unfamiliar with the difficulties that most people have, but no more than that. Obviously that doesn't mean I agree with their views. Nearly all politicians IMO start with reasonably good intentions plus a bit of ego - to a greater or lesser extent it's then eroded by the belief that winning is all or most of that matters.
In our domestic scene I'd support most Labour leaders, but I personally like Corbyn better - he's retained the innocent, honest outlook that I noticed when I first met him decades ago: he thinks people should say what they believe and have a civilised discussion about it. I like Letwin for the same reason - I've never heard Letwin attack an opponent personally or say something that he didn't seem to think was true. It's rare and precious, and politics needs people like that in addition to the sharp-eyed winners.
Fox- "Shoah"- I think that is something I couldn't even contemplate watching- I'm just not brave enough. I think it is about ten hours long.
I couldn't get through the opening sequences of Hitchcock's factual documentary on the concentration camps, and that is only a few minutes.
Aside from reading and writing, the Holocaust should be mandatory for all British school kids, in fact all world children. It is something that we should never forget..
I've seen Klimlov's 1980's WW2 masterpiece "Come and See" again recently, perhaps the most nihilistic film ever made.
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
Caroline Jones (South West Wales) Nathan Gill MEP (North Wales) Michelle Brown (North Wales) Mark Reckless (South Waled East) David Rowlands (South Waled East) Neil Hamilton (Mid and West Wales) Gareth Bennett (South West Central)
I feel very sorry for him. It seems he was traduced by a vulgarian Australian and his only failing was weakness. That doesn't excuse Cameron's two interventions at PMQs
I was mostly happy with Zac's campaign, you'll be surprised to hear. It's perfectly fair to question Khan's links. He has some very strange and suspicious friends and assistants. And then there's "Uncle Tom"? WTF.
Where the Goldsmith campaign crossed the line was that Mail article with the image of the 7/7 bus. That was downright offensive (and I'm not easily offended): clearly linking Khan with the 7/7 bombs because he's a Muslim with associations. Very ugly and unfair.
But a candidate for mayor doesn't get to choose how the Mail runs an article.
Agreed - the attempt by The 'rogers' et al in the Labour party to scream rrraaaccciiisssmmm every time one of their ethnic candidates is tested is extremely unhealthy and one of several reasons why the 'race ' issue is such a continuing problem. Ironically it is damaging them overall far more than their opponents.
Zac probably gave Sadiq an additional 2%. Ironically, I would not have put Zac in the racist camp myself. Even his sister didn't seem very pleased today - after the event.
Nor me Zac could not do the attack dog, his heart was not in it. Cameron does a better job at PMQ`S
Fox- "Shoah"- I think that is something I couldn't even contemplate watching- I'm just not brave enough. I think it is about ten hours long.
I couldn't get through the opening sequences of Hitchcock's factual documentary on the concentration camps, and that is only a few minutes.
Aside from reading and writing, the Holocaust should be mandatory for all British school kids, in fact all world children. It is something that we should never forget..
It already is Tyson, over and above the National Curriculum requirements which academies and private schools are not bound by anyway.
Mind you I think most people who are not, to quote Charles Grey's dismissal of David Irving, perversely and wilfully blind to what has happened would want it taught anyway for that very reason you give and more importantly to make sure it never happens again. It's why I gave up huge amounts of free time and my half term organising and leading a trip to Poland so that a group from my school could visit Auschwitz.
Newsnight — Lynton Crosby understands Middle England but not London.
I wouldn't go that far, he got Boris elected twice, in 2008 he was the underdog as well. I just don't think Crosby understands identity politics very well, if you're going to attack a minority candidate those attacks have to be done by a minority person of the same background.
I feel very sorry for him. It seems he was traduced by a vulgarian Australian and his only failing was weakness. That doesn't excuse Cameron's two interventions at PMQs
I was mostly happy with Zac's campaign, you'll be surprised to hear. It's perfectly fair to question Khan's links. He has some very strange and suspicious friends and assistants. And then there's "Uncle Tom"? WTF.
Where the Goldsmith campaign crossed the line was that Mail article with the image of the 7/7 bus. That was downright offensive (and I'm not easily offended): clearly linking Khan with the 7/7 bombs because he's a Muslim with associations. Very ugly and unfair.
But a candidate for mayor doesn't get to choose how the Mail runs an article.
Agreed - the attempt by The 'rogers' et al in the Labour party to scream rrraaaccciiisssmmm every time one of their ethnic candidates is tested is extremely unhealthy and one of several reasons why the 'race ' issue is such a continuing problem. Ironically it is damaging them overall far more than their opponents.
Zac probably gave Sadiq an additional 2%. Ironically, I would not have put Zac in the racist camp myself. Even his sister didn't seem very pleased today - after the event.
Nor me Zac could not do the attack dog, his heart was not in it. Cameron does a better job at PMQ`S
Don't Unseat Jeremy Corbyn Association!
The Tories had a lucky escape in Havering & Redbridge. Maybe Ken cost Labour the seat.
Newsnight — Lynton Crosby understands Middle England but not London.
I wouldn't go that far, he got Boris elected twice, in 2008 he was the underdog as well. I just don't think Crosby understands identity politics very well, if you're going to attack a minority candidate those attacks have to be done by a minority person of the same background.
So he should have gone after non-dom tax avoiders?
Last night the BBC were saying Labour were up by 3 or 4 points compared to last year but now they're projecting Labour on 31% which is the same as last year. Not sure what caused the change.
Projections based on last night's national voteshare for 2020 election
BBC Tories 301, Lab 253, SNP 53, LD 19, UKIP 1
Sky Tories 280, Lab 265, SNP 56, LD 25, UKIP 1
Tory minority government supported by Nicola?
The SNP won't support the Tories ever, especially as they are now their main opponents, Tory minority government backed by LDs, UKIP and DUP more likely
I don't think the LibDems would back the Tories again - not for another generation.
They would not go into Coalition with them no but if they were the largest party they may not vote down a Tory government in a confidence vote either
I suspect they would take any opportunity to distance themselves from the Tories.
As I said they are not going into Coalition but if the Tories have almost 50 more MPs than Labour they are not going to put Labour and the SNP in either
I feel very sorry for him. It seems he was traduced by a vulgarian Australian and his only failing was weakness. That doesn't excuse Cameron's two interventions at PMQs
I was mostly happy with Zac's campaign, you'll be surprised to hear. It's perfectly fair to question Khan's links. He has some very strange and suspicious friends and assistants. And then there's "Uncle Tom"? WTF.
Where the Goldsmith campaign crossed the line was that Mail article with the image of the 7/7 bus. That was downright offensive (and I'm not easily offended): clearly linking Khan with the 7/7 bombs because he's a Muslim with associations. Very ugly and unfair.
But a candidate for mayor doesn't get to choose how the Mail runs an article.
Agreed - the attempt by The 'rogers' et al in the Labour party to scream rrraaaccciiisssmmm every time one of their ethnic candidates is tested is extremely unhealthy and one of several reasons why the 'race ' issue is such a continuing problem. Ironically it is damaging them overall far more than their opponents.
Zac probably gave Sadiq an additional 2%. Ironically, I would not have put Zac in the racist camp myself. Even his sister didn't seem very pleased today - after the event.
Nor me Zac could not do the attack dog, his heart was not in it. Cameron does a better job at PMQ`S
Don't Unseat Jeremy Corbyn Association!
The Tories had a lucky escape in Havering & Redbridge. Maybe Ken cost Labour the seat.
Yes it was very close, maybe I should have voted yesterday
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Newsnight — Lynton Crosby understands Middle England but not London.
I wouldn't go that far, he got Boris elected twice, in 2008 he was the underdog as well. I just don't think Crosby understands identity politics very well, if you're going to attack a minority candidate those attacks have to be done by a minority person of the same background.
It wasn't the attacks that lost it. Zac was a rubbish candidate from the start. Old Etonian eco-warrior with a massive pile of dosh, and he was meant to appeal to a wide range of Londoners?
Here's a free clue for Crosby. Next time try and find someone who is a least in the same ballpark as the electorate, if the Tory Party has anyone like that.
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Mark Reckless got elected as well as Neil Hamilton? I missed that.
Neil Hamilton? Back in office? Sorry, but this just makes me feel sick.
I confess I don't actually know what it is he did, back in the day, to gain his reputation. When I see the name I think sleaze, but I have no details on it. Presumably it was a long time ago so I guess it comes down yo was it so bad he should never hold public office .again or is he just a person with unpleasant views. Either way, plenty of people who fit both have been elected sadly.
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Presumably Zac would stand as an Independent (or Green).
Cooper, Burnham, even 4% Kendall was nowhere to be seen.
versus...
THIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ0hYABkbMo
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/728649941229391873/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw
You said the Tories aren't that bad...... and actually they are mostly in politics for the right reasons or words to that effect.
I hope you do not mind me divulging the contents of private emails, but it kind of demonstrates what a civilised, balanced sort of chap you are.
Besides, I had my pbc piece to write (so apologies for any dip in quality).
Oh yeah, we also had a scan this morning, scheduled between the counts. It's a boy.
http://www.itv.com/news/london/update/2016-05-06/londons-new-mayor-expected-to-be-officially-announced-at-midnight/
I am not sure that the BMA JDC sees it the same way.
Kezia Dugdale
Neil Findlay
Mark Griffin
Elaine Smith
Johann Lamont
James Kelly
Jenny Marra
Lewis McDonald
Iain Gray
Claudia Beamisch
Rhoda Grant
David Stewart
Alex Rowley
Claire Baker
Jackie Baillie
Neil Bibby
Mary Fee
Ken McIntosh
Newcomers
Richard Leonard
Monica Lennon
Anas Sarwar
Pauline McNeill (comeback from the 1999-2011 period)
Daniel Johnson
Colin Smyth
She also has this to say: http://www.salon.com/2016/05/05/its_not_about_sexism_camille_paglia_on_trump_hillarys_restless_bitterness_and_the_end_of_the_elites/
Clinton's a hag, with some serious health issues, as well as mental issues.
She actually looked liked Aileen Wuornos in part of that video...
Mike Smithson @MSmithsonPB 2m2 minutes ago
Maybe they don't want the result being announced on the same day that Lynton Crosby got his knighthood
I am bracing myself for Son of Saul- I have it to watch it, but have to get through the Act of Killing first which I still cannot bring myself to watch.
For light reading I am just finishing Robert's autobiography of Napoleon which is superb.
I shall look out for "Son of Saul".
Where is your evidence that the Tories are making things better for poor Labour voting regions?
Labour threw a lifeline to areas like Wales and the North East, the Tories have to be dragged kicking and screaming to Port Talbot, not to mention the huge cuts to labour voting councils compared to the leafy Tory shires.
I couldn't get through the opening sequences of Hitchcock's factual documentary on the concentration camps, and that is only a few minutes.
Aside from reading and writing, the Holocaust should be mandatory for all British school kids, in fact all world children. It is something that we should never forget..
But the child in the red coat, for that image, Schindler's List is superb. Plus Spielberg has the guts to cast Fiennes, charming, charismatic, handsome as the Commandant. Granted it has it's faults.
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2016/03/30/sadiq-khan-there-are-too-many-white-men-on-transport-for-lon
In our domestic scene I'd support most Labour leaders, but I personally like Corbyn better - he's retained the innocent, honest outlook that I noticed when I first met him decades ago: he thinks people should say what they believe and have a civilised discussion about it. I like Letwin for the same reason - I've never heard Letwin attack an opponent personally or say something that he didn't seem to think was true. It's rare and precious, and politics needs people like that in addition to the sharp-eyed winners.
Thanks to that pillar of rectitude, Greville Janner...
Shoah is hard work, but the relentlessness, and repetitiveness of the first hand accounts is part of its power.
Mind you I think most people who are not, to quote Charles Grey's dismissal of David Irving, perversely and wilfully blind to what has happened would want it taught anyway for that very reason you give and more importantly to make sure it never happens again. It's why I gave up huge amounts of free time and my half term organising and leading a trip to Poland so that a group from my school could visit Auschwitz.
Paul Waugh
@benatipsosmori but he says he had nothing to do with this campaign, it was Fullbrook not him
Could this affect anything?
Here's a free clue for Crosby. Next time try and find someone who is a least in the same ballpark as the electorate, if the Tory Party has anyone like that.