Sorry Moscow Bobski, if you don't understand you never will.
I have no interest in Pakistan's position.
Who is speaking about Pakistan?
You seem to be the conspiracy theorist, explain to me how this all works?
It's not hard to understand - whether it is true or fair you know people think your views on many issues are biased in favour of Putin and Russia's positions, you know that because people do not hide that is what they think, the same way others are labelled as shills for particular parties. Hence the reference to Moscow.
Now, what about TSEs views made you think his views were biased in favour of Pakistans positions? What are Pakistans positions?
I really don't want to have to do this but, if that's what's required for England to become an Elizabethan free globally trading wealthy nation again, then so be it.
I'd hope Wales could be a co-partner in a co-federal Union (not sure they want to go) and for us to set up some sort of Council of the Isles to coordinate defence, security, foreign policy, fisheries etc. when all nations agree to do so.
The UK is right now free, trades globally, is wealthy and has a monarch called Elizabeth.
I can't see the Labour party getting much sympathy. Their usual response to anything they don't like is to accuse someone of a being 'ist' or being a 'phobe'.
Ken may have 'mis-spoke" in Clintonese, but it's the biter bit.
There's about 700 comments on Ken and Naz in the Times. A remarkable minority defend Ken or her - trying to nitpick Hitler and anti semitic views. I'd say about 10% I've been really surprised
Sadly I've not been surprised at arguments floating around that because Mann opposes Corbyn, which he does, and wants to damage him, which he does, that must mean he and others don't care what Ken said or think it wrong, but are just acting. The possibility of people both genuinely caring and seeking political advantage is not possible in some minds.
One of the reasons Corbyn, Ken and co are anathema is because of their pandering to anti-Semites and various other despicable people whose anti-western/anti-UK/anti-US perspective they approve of. That goes to the heart of why many of us believe they should not be anywhere near the leadership of the Labour party and why we cannot vote for the party while they are.
I suspect the Sunday papers are going to be nightmare for Corbyn this week. Journos will be crawling through every backbench MP, prominent activist, council candidate's etc social media as we speak.
He (Lord Sugar) stated that Livingstone was "obsessed" with "Hitler, concentration camps and Jews" but believes he will "talk his way out" of expulsion from the party.
Years ago, someone did a word count on Hitler, Jews and IIRC buses in his autobiography. Buses didn't get a mention, the other two rather a lot.
Well given Livingstone has finally been thrown out (albeit temporarily until the dust settles) I guess that leaves Lady Colonel Thornberry to throw out Trident on her own form Labours defence review
Ken will be back off the Naughty Step well before that document is laid in front of the public.
His mate Jeremy will see to it. No crime is so great as to get in the way of delivering unilateral nuclear disarmament...
I suspect the Sunday papers are going to be nightmare for Corbyn this week. Journos will be crawling through every backbench MP, prominent activist, council candidate's etc social media as we speak.
Or phoning up Staines who will sell his research to them.
This is typical of the sort of defence I'm seeing elsewhere "I feel this is more of an attack on Corbyn. Ken does not like the Israeli policy of killing civilians in Gaza but he is not a racist."
I have to agree with Michael White from the Guardian..It is the fault of everyone else that Labour is riddled with Anti Semites...but we should not really talk about it..its rude
Does the economic modelling add up? Almost certainly not. The underlying model is Prof Minford’s “Liverpool model” that, confusingly, is no longer based at Liverpool University, but is of an extreme free-market vintage that became fashionable in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
It does not have a good prediction pedigree. For example, in 1997 the model forecast the new minimum wage would increase unemployment by 3m. Economists subsequently agreed it had no effect.
Also, sounds like Red Bull with have a Don't-Call-It-A-Renault engine again next year.
So, all their bitching in 2015 achieved was to make the team look petulant.
The Mercs will get a 1-2 here unless there's some problem, a dominant display again although the Ferraris didn't run the SS tyres.
The RB power unit is identically homologated to the other Renault PUs, only the Tag Heuer badge is different - TH have nothing to do with it except the sponsorship, they make only nice watches.
'Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said."'
Kommandant Ken's intervention has to motivate one element of the London electorate to vote almost wholly against Labour and in way above average turnout numbers.
I really don't want to have to do this but, if that's what's required for England to become an Elizabethan free globally trading wealthy nation again, then so be it.
I'd hope Wales could be a co-partner in a co-federal Union (not sure they want to go) and for us to set up some sort of Council of the Isles to coordinate defence, security, foreign policy, fisheries etc. when all nations agree to do so.
The UK is right now free, trades globally, is wealthy and has a monarch called Elizabeth.
It does not have control over its trade, commercial powers, borders, justice powers, social or employment policy or regional policy and is restricted in many areas of its economy by regulation from the EU.
I think we can do so much better, and give a huge boost to our democracy at the same time.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
Corbyn hates the West. I'm just not sure he is intelligent enough to admit the end result of his life's direction of travel is total anathema to everything he claims to espouse.
Does the economic modelling add up? Almost certainly not. The underlying model is Prof Minford’s “Liverpool model” that, confusingly, is no longer based at Liverpool University, but is of an extreme free-market vintage that became fashionable in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
It does not have a good prediction pedigree. For example, in 1997 the model forecast the new minimum wage would increase unemployment by 3m. Economists subsequently agreed it had no effect.
Does the economic modelling add up? Almost certainly not. The underlying model is Prof Minford’s “Liverpool model” that, confusingly, is no longer based at Liverpool University, but is of an extreme free-market vintage that became fashionable in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
It does not have a good prediction pedigree. For example, in 1997 the model forecast the new minimum wage would increase unemployment by 3m. Economists subsequently agreed it had no effect.
They should really call it the Blanchflower model
Hah. Economists were put on the Earth to make astrologers look good.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
Does the economic modelling add up? Almost certainly not. The underlying model is Prof Minford’s “Liverpool model” that, confusingly, is no longer based at Liverpool University, but is of an extreme free-market vintage that became fashionable in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
It does not have a good prediction pedigree. For example, in 1997 the model forecast the new minimum wage would increase unemployment by 3m. Economists subsequently agreed it had no effect.
They should really call it the Blanchflower model
Hah. Economists were put on the Earth to make astrologers look good.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
"if we left the EU, it seems likely that we would mostly eliminate manufacturing "
'Heavy snow will return occasionally, says Dr Viner, but when it does we will be unprepared. "We're really going to get caught out. Snow will probably cause chaos in 20 years time," he said."'
He wasn't wrong there.
Snow caused chaos back then too. But as for "children just aren't going to know what snow is", that's a prediction of AGW that has been comprehensively falsified.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
The FT thought we should join the euro. #wrongthenwrongnow
Bet Boris finished it off for him after the photo op.
Why is it that political parties seem unable to see their members as the public do? I know very little about Zac G other than that he has an extravagantly wealthy father, is an ecomentalist and has never had a job. Is that a good profile from which to content the London mayor's job? Is it fuck. Don't CCHQ think before they approve candidates?
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
When Khan wins, will it be spun as a big victory for Corbynism?
An interesting benchmark from the GE2015 is 56.5%.
That's the percentage Labour achieved in a two horse race with the Tories, with all other options removed.
A straightforward 13% win (without second preferences)
56.3% was the 'left wing bloc' (LibLabGrn) against 43.7% (ConUkipOth).
Yes, the mayoralty is effectively a handicap race where a swing of ~ 6.5% needs to be achieved from the "norm" to achieve victory for the Conservative candidate. It was slightly lower for Boris I'm guessing.
Christ, what's he like when he eats a bacon sandwich?
That is the problem with campaigning with a bon-viveur like Boris, his very presence highlights all your failings. There is the robust heart chap who looks (and is known) to enjoy a drink and good company, gazing appreciatively at his pint, and then there is the nervous looking guy at the side of the photo looking for the exit while noticing that whatever he is holding isn't a good claret.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
The FT thought we should join the euro. #wrongthenwrongnow
It also backed Cameron last year. Wrong then wrong now?
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
The FT thought we should join the euro. #wrongthenwrongnow
It also backed Cameron last year. Wrong then wrong now?
Bet Boris finished it off for him after the photo op.
Goldsmith's weak right hand grip on the pint seems to have failed and his left hand is moving, too late , to catch the glass. Zac's beer surely hit the floor and had to be mopped up. No good, I'm afraid.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I didn't think that there was any story bigger than the referendum for Leavers.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I didn't think that there was any story bigger than the referendum for Leavers.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
It's a bit sad that you're not even prepared to read views from what you consider the Dark Side.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
To be fair, I am happy to read any point of view but I never can read the FT because of the paywall. It's about as objective as Juncker but I'm always amused to read how the FT intends to show people towards further EU integration with its voodoo economics as it did for the euro and ERM.
I'll start taking your barbs that I'm rabid for not reading the FT when you start taking those of Leavers for ignoring the Mail, Express or Telegraph.
Christ, what's he like when he eats a bacon sandwich?
That is the problem with campaigning with a bon-viveur like Boris, his very presence highlights all your failings. There is the robust heart chap who looks (and is known) to enjoy a drink and good company, gazing appreciatively at his pint, and then there is the nervous looking guy at the side of the photo looking for the exit while noticing that whatever he is holding isn't a good claret.
Or Boris knows how to play the game and Zac doesn't.
@ TSE - no, but the leader of your campaign has admitted wages will raise.
Incidentally, I'm emailing Vote Leave to suggest they do a giant poster of a grinning Osborne and his stupid Byzantine formula to show how they're trying to fool the people into voting Remain. I will make sure The Dodgy Figure is not quoted though.
When Khan wins, will it be spun as a big victory for Corbynism?
It is pretty clear that Khan is opposed to Corbynism, despite being one of the guilty who got him onto the ballot paper.
I know, but if Corbyn loses council seats they will need something to point to as good news and evidence that the Corbyn Project is on track. Tricky.
Corbyn took credit for Oldham, despite giving the campaign a wide berth.
Ranty Mann and his petrol can has made it easy to identify a reason for poor performance
To be fair...and I say this rarely about Mann and even less so about Richard Littlejohn, the later outlines today there is actually history and a reason for the formers outburst yesterday.
If there had been a good poll for Goldsmith the Standard would have been all over it.
There was a ComRes poll yesterday but the VI wasn't published which makes me think it was poor for Goldsmith.
I eschewed the opportunity to attend the Conmunist Party public meeting at Upton Park on Tuesday evening but the booklet containing the election addresses of the Mayoral candidates arrived at Stodge Towers yesterday.
Oddly enough all the two page sheets looked similar in the good old Lib Dem Focus style. All looked good enough though some were more positive than others.
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I'm thoroughly enjoying Ken et al being on the receiving end of WAYCISSST!!!!!!!!
I doubt very many Leavers are going to be impressed by what the Financial Times has to say on this subject. Not that'll stop you from continually posting such articles for the next 7 weeks.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
To be fair, I don't think anyone is giving a flying furk about the Referendum this week. There is a somewhat bigger story keeping us amused: Labour and the Death of its Credibility...
I didn't think that there was any story bigger than the referendum for Leavers.
Looking at it objectively, is Labour heading from 2/10 to 1/10 on the credibility front a bigger story than whether we might stay in or out of the EU ?
I'd like to canvas the PB commentariat's views on our speech laws. I think we don't have free speech. You can be arrested and imprisoned for saying the wrong thing. This is usually because it is an 'incitement to hatred'. Or to actual violence. I don't see how this squares with the general commitment of a tolerant society to not get overwhelmed the truly deeply intolerant.
If you say 'I think Muslims are terrible intolerant and violent people and we should kill them' then, yes, that should be illegal as it is an incitement to violence.
But if you say 'I hate Islam because it has no accommodation for individual rights or desires and overtly seeks to oppress or kill some people like women, gays, Jews and apostates' then I suspect in today's UK you might be committing a crime.
How will this country ever really deal with Islamic fundamentalism if talking about it openly risks you getting your collar felt? If Dave is serious about the problem, as he appeared to be after Paris and Brussels, then let us judge him by his actions not his words. Bring back free speech.
Yep, all those numpties with their "je suis Charlie" placards, perfectly illustrates your point. They'll put down their posters and say "you can't say that" if you say anything remotely critical of Islam. Criticism of christianity is right on, of course.
I reserve my right to be equally critical of Christianity, Islam and Judaism.
Yeah me too, I respect their right to believe in tooth fairies as well.
What I'll never agree with is barbaric practises in the name of the tooth fairy. A crime is a crime.
@ TSE - no, but the leader of your campaign has admitted wages will raise.
Incidentally, I'm emailing Vote Leave to suggest they do a giant poster of a grinning Osborne and his stupid Byzantine formula to show how they're trying to fool the people into voting Remain. I will make sure The Dodgy Figure is not quoted though.
Comments
Though it would be the last time the Tories and Labour changed leaders in the same year. I can work with that.
The one Guardian article I could find with comments enabled re: Livingstone had about 1200 comments, at least half of them...well, you guess
Now, what about TSEs views made you think his views were biased in favour of Pakistans positions? What are Pakistans positions?
EU Referendum Polling Release Dates (at time of writing, more may to be added to this schedule).
Wednesday 25th May
Thursday 9th June (provisional)
Thursday 16th June
Thursday 23rd June
http://order-order.com/2016/04/29/corbyn-agrees-bbc-are-zionist-liars/
Nothing to see
Also, sounds like Red Bull with have a Don't-Call-It-A-Renault engine again next year.
So, all their bitching in 2015 achieved was to make the team look petulant.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9394016c-0d43-11e6-b41f-0beb7e589515.html#axzz478b99Zkv
I did like this observation
Does the economic modelling add up? Almost certainly not. The underlying model is Prof Minford’s “Liverpool model” that, confusingly, is no longer based at Liverpool University, but is of an extreme free-market vintage that became fashionable in the late 1970s and early 1980s.
It does not have a good prediction pedigree. For example, in 1997 the model forecast the new minimum wage would increase unemployment by 3m. Economists subsequently agreed it had no effect.
The RB power unit is identically homologated to the other Renault PUs, only the Tag Heuer badge is different - TH have nothing to do with it except the sponsorship, they make only nice watches.
Even if he loses Indiana narrowly, he is still 97% to exceed 1237 on the first ballot
He wasn't wrong there.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3565135/Prime-suspect-murder-Rochdale-imam-fled-UK-revealed-three-people-remain-custody-death-including-one-terror-offences.html
Quite a claim.
I think we can do so much better, and give a huge boost to our democracy at the same time.
That said, I am expecting the grid and result to have a striking resemblance to one another.
Mr. Dodd, White is the fool who compared young idiots going off the fight for Daesh/ISIS to gap year holidays.
I suppose it's good for Remainer morale, and cheers you up though. That's something.
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4129/islamization-belgium-netherlands
Corbyn hates the West. I'm just not sure he is intelligent enough to admit the end result of his life's direction of travel is total anathema to everything he claims to espouse.
Why do I post such links? Because between the 15 links a day to Guido and Breitbart on pb it's occasionally useful to have some proper analysis. No one has to agree with it, but you have to be pretty rabid if you think the FT has nothing of interest to say on economic analysis simply because it largely favours Remain.
https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/725611301968420864
or
https://twitter.com/StrongerIn/status/725732441315483648
https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/725965742814990336
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_national_cricket_team
Stop making silly points and play straight.
However that photo does sort of sum up why people like Boris and errhh not Zac.
That's the percentage Labour achieved in a two horse race with the Tories, with all other options removed.
A straightforward 13% win (without second preferences)
56.3% was the 'left wing bloc' (LibLabGrn) against 43.7% (ConUkipOth).
I know very little about Zac G other than that he has an extravagantly wealthy father, is an ecomentalist and has never had a job. Is that a good profile from which to content the London mayor's job? Is it fuck. Don't CCHQ think before they approve candidates?
https://twitter.com/MichaelWhite/status/725950000962764800
Good to see Guido going after Corbyn's own endorsements of anti-Zionist bigotry today.
This ain't over yet. And remember Guido will turn his attention to anyone from any party when there is something to expose...
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/28/at-last-corbyn-acts-labour-interest-naz-shah-livingstone-antisemitism
Very revealing article...basically Naz didn't really do much wrong, it was the nasty right wingers / Cameron's fault.
Did he not hear Ken going on about Hitler on BBC2 for a quarter of an hour yesterday lunchtime?
All I will say on Livingstone is that it takes a lot to be expelled from any political party.
To get thrown out of the same party twice would be an achievement of sorts.
Ogmore and Sheffield, Brightside and Hillsborough.
It will be interesting to see how Corbyn goes down in these areas.
I'll start taking your barbs that I'm rabid for not reading the FT when you start taking those of Leavers for ignoring the Mail, Express or Telegraph.
http://www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/04/daniel-hannan-heres-what-happens-when-britain-votes-to-leave.html
Council elections on the same day should help Labour's GOTV.
Incidentally, I'm emailing Vote Leave to suggest they do a giant poster of a grinning Osborne and his stupid Byzantine formula to show how they're trying to fool the people into voting Remain. I will make sure The Dodgy Figure is not quoted though.
If that does materialise I hope you enjoy it.
There was a ComRes poll yesterday but the VI wasn't published which makes me think it was poor for Goldsmith.
I eschewed the opportunity to attend the Conmunist Party public meeting at Upton Park on Tuesday evening but the booklet containing the election addresses of the Mayoral candidates arrived at Stodge Towers yesterday.
Oddly enough all the two page sheets looked similar in the good old Lib Dem Focus style. All looked good enough though some were more positive than others.
What I'll never agree with is barbaric practises in the name of the tooth fairy. A crime is a crime.