The wife just made me laugh. The TV is going on about creative cures for cabin fever. She said "that's easy - go outside and do something" I said, "But they're advising everyone to stay in." Wife "That's we we're a national of fat useless people!"
Joke from ABC7 in Washington -
what do you get when you cross a snowstorm with a vampire?
FPT constituencies with big Muslim populations. Bear in mind these are mostly inner city seats filled with all sorts of groups that favour Labour - eg university workers, social housing tenants, public sector workers, people working in arts, design, media etc. The rise in the Labour vote won't just have come from Muslims.
Public sector workers and social housing tenants certainly but there weren't any real 'trendy lefty' constituencies in that list. None of those constituencies would have voted YEStoAV for example.
The list was only to show that the claim that there had been a big fall in ethnic minority support for Labour in 2015 was rubbish.
If anyone has a list of the top 10 Afro-Caribbean and top 10 Hindu/Sikh constituencies it would be interesting to see the electoral change in those in 2015.
when the second order autoregressive component is taken into consideration.
I have no idea what this means but I'm going to use it - sounds fantastic.
Basically the model postulates that the voters have memory of the previous two election results, with a natural tendency towards change after two consecutive victories for one party.
Ergo, knowing the previous two results goes a long way in being able to predict the next, although there is still uncertainty, which must be captured by another variable.
The actual outcomes will depend on:-
i) the point in the cycle - it's easier to win a second term than a third, etc... ii) the scale of the previous two outcomes - landslides will offer somewhat of a cushion for next time... iii) the short-term indicator, namely PM approval - which can "disturb" the regularity of the autoregressive process, keeping a party in office for longer/shorter than would otherwise be expected...
FPT constituencies with big Muslim populations. Bear in mind these are mostly inner city seats filled with all sorts of groups that favour Labour - eg university workers, social housing tenants, public sector workers, people working in arts, design, media etc. The rise in the Labour vote won't just have come from Muslims.
Public sector workers and social housing tenants certainly but there weren't any real 'trendy lefty' constituencies in that list. None of those constituencies would have voted YEStoAV for example.
The list was only to show that the claim that there had been a big fall in ethnic minority support for Labour in 2015 was rubbish.
If anyone has a list of the top 10 Afro-Caribbean and top 10 Hindu/Sikh constituencies it would be interesting to see the electoral change in those in 2015.
Ealing-Southall [ Hindu / Sikh ] : Labour vote went up by 14% ?
Ugh. Pass the mind bleach. That's an image I never want to have again.
Sorry, but I can't find the picture of JC and DA even remotely funny. I just find the pair of them extremely dangerous.
At the moment, I don't think the british people are in the mood to accept more immigration. It just feels as though the whole thing is going to blow up and no-one has even got a handle on it.
Is it correct? I mean, how many of the communist countries today are actually communist in policy?
If anyone knows of the number of communist run countries that were not also dictatorships, or which were turned into dictatorships, that would be interesting too.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
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That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
"Mr Aeschi and Guthlaugur Thor Thordarson, of Iceland’s Independence Party, invited Britain to rejoin the European Free Trade Association (EFTA), of which the UK was a founding member."
I only see one member (Iceland), and the two people aren't in government, and aren't associated with EFTA. Am I missing something?
Edit: Ah Mr Aeschi is from a Swiss party, also not in government.
FPT constituencies with big Muslim populations. Bear in mind these are mostly inner city seats filled with all sorts of groups that favour Labour - eg university workers, social housing tenants, public sector workers, people working in arts, design, media etc. The rise in the Labour vote won't just have come from Muslims.
Public sector workers and social housing tenants certainly but there weren't any real 'trendy lefty' constituencies in that list. None of those constituencies would have voted YEStoAV for example.
The list was only to show that the claim that there had been a big fall in ethnic minority support for Labour in 2015 was rubbish.
If anyone has a list of the top 10 Afro-Caribbean and top 10 Hindu/Sikh constituencies it would be interesting to see the electoral change in those in 2015.
A quick look shows that heavily Hindu constituencies - Brent N, Harrow E, Harrow W - had little change between 2010 and 2015.
Whereas those which had the highest Sikh populations - Feltham, Hayes and especially Ealing Southall - had strong swings to Labour.
The constituencies with the highest Afro-Caribbean voters also had significant increases in the Labour vote, although lower than in the highest Muslim constituencies. However these high Afro-Caribbean constituencies also tend to the ones most associated with 'trendy lefties' so what the breakdown of that Labour vote increase was is unsure.
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
This cannot be allowed to continue. If the conditions are bad which no one is really in any doubt that they are, it is for the French to deal with it. These people have also crossed many safe countries before arriving at Calais. If they wanted asylum they should have claimed in any one of them and they are presently sitting in a country known as a holiday destination.
If they were truly under threat then they would have been happy in any one of those they crossed. I can only presume they are not true asylum seekers or they are selective in where they want to go for other reasons which is effectively the same thing.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
"Mr Aeschi and Guthlaugur Thor Thordarson, of Iceland’s Independence Party, invited Britain to rejoin the European Free Trade Association (EFTA), of which the UK was a founding member."
I only see one member (Iceland), and the two people aren't in government, and aren't associated with EFTA. Am I missing something?
Edit: Ah Mr Aeschi is from a Swiss party, also not in government.
Countries are members of EFTA and other alliances, not governments.
Doing it the other way around could be fun though. We could come to an arrangement that we were only members of the EU when we elect a Labour govt and drop out whilst under a Tory one?
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
The Mayor is not very sympathetic towards pro-migrant protesters judging by her comments on Twitter.
Were they flooding in to see Corbyn or was he promising them instant access?
Corbyn said this today... You would think he was talking about a refugee camp in the middle of a war zone. Nope this is Northern France so why are the French not attending to these people? I presume we have to give them all this here is what he means.
"'Also, there are the human needs of people. We have got people here who have been here for months, if not longer than that, with no proper education, no access to doctors, no access to dentists, limited access to food - in very cold, very wet conditions"
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
"Mr Aeschi and Guthlaugur Thor Thordarson, of Iceland’s Independence Party, invited Britain to rejoin the European Free Trade Association (EFTA), of which the UK was a founding member."
I only see one member (Iceland), and the two people aren't in government, and aren't associated with EFTA. Am I missing something?
Edit: Ah Mr Aeschi is from a Swiss party, also not in government.
Countries are members of EFTA and other alliances, not governments.
Doing it the other way around could be fun though. We could come to an arrangement that we were only members of the EU when we elect a Labour govt and drop out whilst under a Tory one?
I was pointing out they have little influence, and aren't directly related to EFTA. The headline could be read as suggesting someone from EFTA invited us.
For instance, me inviting the US to join the EU should not warrant the headline "United States invited to join the European Union".
"We have got people here who have been here for months, if not longer than that, with no proper education, no access to doctors, no access to dentists, limited access to food - in very cold, very wet conditions"
Perhaps the migrants are right not seeking asylum – Northern France sounds like a hell hole.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
How many of the 50 are male and 18-35 years old ?
To a fool, these fit young Muslim men may appear well dressed and well fed. But a wise man such as Your Majesty can easily see that they are desperate starving refugees in rags.
'The narrowest leader rating gap at GE2015 was Cameron leading Miliband by 7% - exactly the same as the GB vote share margin.'
But the same pollsters that got the result so badly wrong kept on telling us that unlike previous elections leader ratings and economic competence didn't matter as they were not being picked up in their polls !
Up to now I've been sceptical of the notice people have been taking of Corbyn. I know his ratings are shockingly bad and it's been one thing after another but I'm not sure how much Syria and Trident resonate with the electorate.
His decision to visit the migrant camp in Calais, however, will very much resonate with the electorate. This shows where his priorities lie, and it's not with the people of Britain. As was suggested up thread, the question that should be asked of Corbyn is "why do these people want to leave socialist France to come to capitalist Britain?"
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
How many of the 50 are male and 18-35 years old ?
To a fool, these fit young Muslim men may appear well dressed and well fed. But a wise man such as Your Majesty can easily see that they are desperate starving refugees in rags.
Going back to a comment from a few threads ago about the number of Nigerians entering Europe via Italy, as members of the Commonwealth they'd have the right to vote in our General Election if they came to live here...
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
How many of the 50 are male and 18-35 years old ?
To a fool, these fit young Muslim men may appear well dressed and well fed. But a wise man such as Your Majesty can easily see that they are desperate starving refugees in rags.
I did rather like the fact that the selfies they were taking with Corbyn today were on I phones.....
FPT constituencies with big Muslim populations. Bear in mind these are mostly inner city seats filled with all sorts of groups that favour Labour - eg university workers, social housing tenants, public sector workers, people working in arts, design, media etc. The rise in the Labour vote won't just have come from Muslims.
Public sector workers and social housing tenants certainly but there weren't any real 'trendy lefty' constituencies in that list. None of those constituencies would have voted YEStoAV for example.
The list was only to show that the claim that there had been a big fall in ethnic minority support for Labour in 2015 was rubbish.
If anyone has a list of the top 10 Afro-Caribbean and top 10 Hindu/Sikh constituencies it would be interesting to see the electoral change in those in 2015.
A quick look shows that heavily Hindu constituencies - Brent N, Harrow E, Harrow W - had little change between 2010 and 2015.
Whereas those which had the highest Sikh populations - Feltham, Hayes and especially Ealing Southall - had strong swings to Labour.
The constituencies with the highest Afro-Caribbean voters also had significant increases in the Labour vote, although lower than in the highest Muslim constituencies. However these high Afro-Caribbean constituencies also tend to the ones most associated with 'trendy lefties' so what the breakdown of that Labour vote increase was is unsure.
I think you're right. The IPSOS MORI polls for ethnic minority votes look much more plausible:
So, when asked hypotheticals this far out from the election, responds have a sense of humour.
Yeah, 10% would vote Bloomberg for president.
It's telling that a serious contender polls no better than a made-up name. Trump, Cruz, Sanders and Hillary may provide a very weak ballot paper between them but it looks as if the public have no mood for Bloomberg either. Would that change if he actually launched a campaign? Perhaps, but I can't see a Wall St billionaire finding a place in the hearts of middle America.
[update] They've gone for a photo of the protesters in support of the migrants. #Natch.
Ok, I stick up for the BBC from what are usually overly sensitive, hyperbolic complaints from right wingers, but that is a really odd choice for the lead photo to use on the story (at least the initial lead photo), as it really is very little to do with the main story at all. As part of a longer piece, part way down, sure, the earlier show of support and a photo of that is certainly relevant, but in 'best summary of story' terms, that's an odd one.
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
The Mayor is not very sympathetic towards pro-migrant protesters judging by her comments on Twitter.
Were they flooding in to see Corbyn or was he promising them instant access?
Corbyn said this today... You would think he was talking about a refugee camp in the middle of a war zone. Nope this is Northern France so why are the French not attending to these people? I presume we have to give them all this here is what he means.
"'Also, there are the human needs of people. We have got people here who have been here for months, if not longer than that, with no proper education, no access to doctors, no access to dentists, limited access to food - in very cold, very wet conditions"
You are right. This is a problem for France. Its unfortunate for France, but its their responsibility. it seems to be a good pointer to how a Corbyn government would behave.
I am deeply uncomfortable with electoral campaigns in this country being financed by American big banks. I wonder if the in campaign will regret taking the money in time.
Usually independent candidates start in the high teens or low 20's before collapsing as the campaign goes on, Bloomberg is doing half of what Perot what doing when he started in 1992, and worse than Anderson in 1980 :
Anderson started with 21%, he ended up at 8. Perot in 1992 started at 24, peaked at 39, ended with 19. Perot in 1996 started at 16, ended up with 8.
That Morning Consult poll has Bloomberg getting 18% of independents, 8% of Republicans and 8% of Democrats, so he actually draws equally from both parties, though hurts Hillary by drawing from independents and young voters. If Sanders were the Democratic nominee I would expect more centrist Dems who backed Hillary to switch to Bloomberg and that would likely increase Bloomberg's score above 20%, if Hillary is the Dem nominee I doubt he would bother to run http://morningconsult.com/2016/01/new-poll-could-bloomberg-win/
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?
I am deeply uncomfortable with electoral campaigns in this country being financed by American big banks. I wonder if the in campaign will regret taking the money in time.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
We'll be fair, the best he could have got in Geography is E at A level. And that was in 1964 when you could get a pass just by being at the right school. It's not totally surprising if he doesn't understand the concepts of islands and national borders.
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
How many of the 50 are male and 18-35 years old ?
To a fool, these fit young Muslim men may appear well dressed and well fed. But a wise man such as Your Majesty can easily see that they are desperate starving refugees in rags.
They are being attacked by their own government. The migrants are more comparable to the Jews of Europe than young British conscripts. Stick to rebroadcasting Tory Twitter
I am deeply uncomfortable with electoral campaigns in this country being financed by American big banks. I wonder if the in campaign will regret taking the money in time.
At about the same time as "out" regrets taking money from Putin, I should imagine...
Several places in DC, Maryland and northern VA now reporting snowfall totals of 30 inches.
Lisa reporting snow on the drive is too deep for the John Deere to plough - usually happens around the 24-30" mark. This despite the fact she ploughed at 4am. Winds here are around 20mph, so there's a lot of drifting.
I've spent the last hour out with the snowblower and not made much of a dent, only to see where I started getting drifted over again ... Feel a little like Sisyphus.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
We'll be fair, the best he could have got in Geography is E at A level. And that was in 1964 when you could get a pass just by being at the right school. It's not totally surprising if he doesn't understand the concepts of islands and national borders.
He knows how to read East German Road signs though.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?
This is interesting but it is also a sample of 1. Do we have comparable data for previous elections and does it show the same trend?
Presumably the people giving these opinions were also the people who had an excess weighting to Labour distorting the voting intention polls. If so that surely makes Cameron's lead even more significant but the choice will not always be between a solid PM and a muppet, even if 2020 looks like it might be.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
"Mr Aeschi and Guthlaugur Thor Thordarson, of Iceland’s Independence Party, invited Britain to rejoin the European Free Trade Association (EFTA), of which the UK was a founding member."
I only see one member (Iceland), and the two people aren't in government, and aren't associated with EFTA. Am I missing something?
Edit: Ah Mr Aeschi is from a Swiss party, also not in government.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
We'll be fair, the best he could have got in Geography is E at A level. And that was in 1964 when you could get a pass just by being at the right school. It's not totally surprising if he doesn't understand the concepts of islands and national borders.
He knows how to read East German Road signs though.
Or he and Abbott may have got lost in two senses of the word on that trip...
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?
No.
So this EFTA business is a dead issue then
No. There is a requirement to be in EFTA to be in the EEA. However not all members of EFTA have to be in the EEA.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
As far as I can tell, neither of the two gentlemen are in government, so they can't exactly speak in an official capacity as to their countries position on the matter.
I am deeply uncomfortable with electoral campaigns in this country being financed by American big banks. I wonder if the in campaign will regret taking the money in time.
The Leave campaign will have plenty of cash from multi millionaire businessmen and financiers
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
We'll be fair, the best he could have got in Geography is E at A level. And that was in 1964 when you could get a pass just by being at the right school. It's not totally surprising if he doesn't understand the concepts of islands and national borders.
He knows how to read East German Road signs though.
Or he and Abbott may have got lost in two senses of the word on that trip...
The STASI reports of their trip would make interesting reading.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
As far as I can tell, neither of the two gentlemen are in government, so they can't exactly speak in an official capacity as to their countries position on the matter.
Wrong again. Thomas Aeschi is probably in a better position to speak than almost anyone else from Switzerland given not only is he part of the Swiss Government but he is also one of Switzerland's EFTA/EEA representatives.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
We'll be fair, the best he could have got in Geography is E at A level. And that was in 1964 when you could get a pass just by being at the right school. It's not totally surprising if he doesn't understand the concepts of islands and national borders.
He knows how to read East German Road signs though.
Or he and Abbott may have got lost in two senses of the word on that trip...
The STASI reports of their trip would make interesting reading.
I pity anyone who had the night shift! Even the Staasi didn't quite deserve that.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
As far as I can tell, neither of the two gentlemen are in government, so they can't exactly speak in an official capacity as to their countries position on the matter.
Wrong again. Thomas Aeschi is probably in a better position to speak than almost anyone else from Switzerland given not only is he part of the Swiss Government but he is also one of Switzerland's EFTA/EEA representatives.
Well it is actually my first time being wrong! My apologies, I was going off of his rather barren Wikipedia page.
Still, this is not a formal invitation as the headline suggests.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
As far as I can tell, neither of the two gentlemen are in government, so they can't exactly speak in an official capacity as to their countries position on the matter.
Wrong again. Thomas Aeschi is probably in a better position to speak than almost anyone else from Switzerland given not only is he part of the Swiss Government but he is also one of Switzerland's EFTA/EEA representatives.
Well it is actually my first time being wrong! My apologies, I was going off of his rather barren Wikipedia page.
Still, this is not a formal invitation as the headline suggests.
Sorry. The 'again' was my confusion as I had answered the same question from Viewpoint.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
You are wrong I am afraid. They are. Both parties are currently the largest in their respective countries and both are part of their respective governments.
Unless I'm mistaken, they are not in the governments, as follows * They are in the parliaments (assemblys, whatever) * They are members of the parties that are in[1] government * But they are not themselves in the government
A British example would be Liam Fox * He is in the UK Parliament * He is a member of the party that is in government * He was a member of the government when he was SecState4Defence * But he is no longer and now cannot be said to be in the government
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
He wants new Labour voters, to replace those he's alienated.
He needs replacements, not new Labour voters. We all know he hates New Labour voters, they're just Tories, he's going to win without them - somehow - even though by 2020 it will be 50 years since a Labour leader other than Blair got over 40% of the vote.
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
How many of the 50 are male and 18-35 years old ?
To a fool, these fit young Muslim men may appear well dressed and well fed. But a wise man such as Your Majesty can easily see that they are desperate starving refugees in rags.
Very aggressive young men, with a huge sense of entitlement.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
He wants new Labour voters, to replace those he's alienated.
He needs replacements, not new Labour voters. We all know he hates New Labour voters, they're just Tories, he's going to win without them - somehow - even though by 2020 it will be 50 years since a Labour leader other than Blair got over 40% of the vote.
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
He wants new Labour voters, to replace those he's alienated.
He needs replacements, not new Labour voters. We all know he hates New Labour voters, they're just Tories, he's going to win without them - somehow - even though by 2020 it will be 50 years since a Labour leader other than Blair got over 40% of the vote.
His only hope is enough Tory votes go off to UKIP post EU ref to allow him to scrape through the backdoor in a deal with the Greens and SNP, Plaid and Farron's LDs, though it is highly unlikely
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
He wants new Labour voters, to replace those he's alienated.
He needs replacements, not new Labour voters. We all know he hates New Labour voters, they're just Tories, he's going to win without them - somehow - even though by 2020 it will be 50 years since a Labour leader other than Blair got over 40% of the vote.
This is the famous stone Which turneth all to gold; For that which doth its name impart Cannot for less be told.
But since it has eluded the finest minds since time immemorial I somehow doubt that Corbyn will succeed where Flamel, Jabir and Lord Percy Percy have failed, I don't rate Corbyn's chances very highly....
Being in the "committee on economics and taxation" doesn't put you in government. Bernard Jenkin is on the European Scrutiny Committee, but he's not in government
I'll take your point that hs position as an EFTA/EU-delegation member makes him important but, again...that's not in government.
That is hugely useful for Leave. One of the points being made by Europhiles has been whether or not EFTA would want us back. This seems a very clear signal about that.
A bit misleading, we were invited to join, but not by EFTA themselves. It's basically just a third party saying "hey, why don't you join EFTA".
Er no. It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us. They are not a third party.
If the people in question were in two of the governments of EFTA then your statement "It is two of the four members of EFTA inviting us" would be accurate.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?
No.
So this EFTA business is a dead issue then
No. There is a requirement to be in EFTA to be in the EEA. However not all members of EFTA have to be in the EEA.
My question was 'Is there a requirement to be in EFTA to also be part of the EEA?' The answer came back 'No' So that answer is wrong?
(I don't want this little thread to turn into an Abbot and Costello sketch BTW !)
Why does Corbyn think the migrants in Calais are the problem for the UK..last I heard Calais was in France
He wants new Labour voters, to replace those he's alienated.
He needs replacements, not new Labour voters. We all know he hates New Labour voters, they're just Tories, he's going to win without them - somehow - even though by 2020 it will be 50 years since a Labour leader other than Blair got over 40% of the vote.
This is the famous stone Which turneth all to gold; For that which doth its name impart Cannot for less be told.
But since it has eluded the finest minds since time immemorial I somehow doubt that Corbyn will succeed where Flamel, Jabir and Lord Percy Percy have failed, I don't rate Corbyn's chances very highly....
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- in a snow bank.
Sorry
The list was only to show that the claim that there had been a big fall in ethnic minority support for Labour in 2015 was rubbish.
If anyone has a list of the top 10 Afro-Caribbean and top 10 Hindu/Sikh constituencies it would be interesting to see the electoral change in those in 2015.
The rise & fall of communism, 1917-present. https://t.co/R4SocmYLQJ
@CLillstrungNH
Ergo, knowing the previous two results goes a long way in being able to predict the next, although there is still uncertainty, which must be captured by another variable.
The actual outcomes will depend on:-
i) the point in the cycle - it's easier to win a second term than a third, etc...
ii) the scale of the previous two outcomes - landslides will offer somewhat of a cushion for next time...
iii) the short-term indicator, namely PM approval - which can "disturb" the regularity of the autoregressive process, keeping a party in office for longer/shorter than would otherwise be expected...
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Pigeon missions are still classified, but...
https://t.co/WAb6FckI57 https://t.co/eDC7DUQ3Nq
http://www.ciachef.edu/google-nb/?gclid=CPOnj-i9wMoCFYElgQodg70Dpw
At the moment, I don't think the british people are in the mood to accept more immigration. It just feels as though the whole thing is going to blow up and no-one has even got a handle on it.
If anyone knows of the number of communist run countries that were not also dictatorships, or which were turned into dictatorships, that would be interesting too.
National Review doesn't understand all the subscription cancellations
"Broken Hearted"
https://t.co/mdU7elqRcu
The Port of Calais has been temporarily closed due to a migrant invasion, as soon as they are cleared the Port will re-open
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-politics/12117232/Fat-cat-sisterhood-part-two-I-name-the-Empress-of-Excess.html
I only see one member (Iceland), and the two people aren't in government, and aren't associated with EFTA. Am I missing something?
Edit: Ah Mr Aeschi is from a Swiss party, also not in government.
Whereas those which had the highest Sikh populations - Feltham, Hayes and especially Ealing Southall - had strong swings to Labour.
The constituencies with the highest Afro-Caribbean voters also had significant increases in the Labour vote, although lower than in the highest Muslim constituencies. However these high Afro-Caribbean constituencies also tend to the ones most associated with 'trendy lefties' so what the breakdown of that Labour vote increase was is unsure.
If they were truly under threat then they would have been happy in any one of those they crossed. I can only presume they are not true asylum seekers or they are selective in where they want to go for other reasons which is effectively the same thing.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/23/17/3081D89000000578-3413566-image-a-12_1453571877153.jpg
Edward III would sort the Calais camp out.
Doing it the other way around could be fun though. We could come to an arrangement that we were only members of the EU when we elect a Labour govt and drop out whilst under a Tory one?
"'Also, there are the human needs of people. We have got people here who have been here for months, if not longer than that, with no proper education, no access to doctors, no access to dentists, limited access to food - in very cold, very wet conditions"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413566/Port-Calais-closed-migrants-storm-harbour-make-Spirit-Britain-ferry-desperate-bid-reach-UK.html#ixzz3y5ooA0r3
For instance, me inviting the US to join the EU should not warrant the headline "United States invited to join the European Union".
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413566/Port-Calais-closed-migrants-storm-harbour-make-Spirit-Britain-ferry-desperate-bid-reach-UK.html
Twitter is going to be awful tonight
https://t.co/2JRaW3Btf7
The Moon is waxing. Full moon occurs at 01:46:20, 24 Jan 2016 GMT.
Perhaps the migrants are right not seeking asylum – Northern France sounds like a hell hole.
If I understand correctly, they are not.
Weird: Serbian language crime drama where someone asks for a Cameron haircut. Gets told. https://t.co/wgUNOvaKHD https://t.co/hjGWCSqkm9
'The narrowest leader rating gap at GE2015 was Cameron leading Miliband by 7% - exactly the same as the GB vote share margin.'
But the same pollsters that got the result so badly wrong kept on telling us that unlike previous elections leader ratings and economic competence didn't matter as they were not being picked up in their polls !
His decision to visit the migrant camp in Calais, however, will very much resonate with the electorate. This shows where his priorities lie, and it's not with the people of Britain. As was suggested up thread, the question that should be asked of Corbyn is "why do these people want to leave socialist France to come to capitalist Britain?"
Priorities n'all.
Labour: 65% (+5 from 2010)
Conservatives: 23% (+7)
Lib Dems: 4% (-16)
Greens: 3%
UKIP: 2%
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35393423
[update] They've gone for a photo of the protesters in support of the migrants. #Natch.
http://morningconsult.com/2016/01/new-poll-could-bloomberg-win/
The end will justify the means.
They are being attacked by their own government. The migrants are more comparable to the Jews of Europe than young British conscripts.
Stick to rebroadcasting Tory Twitter
(ducks,run for cover)..
:-)
[edit: ah, ok, you gotta make sure it's preceded by a space]
I've spent the last hour out with the snowblower and not made much of a dent, only to see where I started getting drifted over again ... Feel a little like Sisyphus.
Presumably the people giving these opinions were also the people who had an excess weighting to Labour distorting the voting intention polls. If so that surely makes Cameron's lead even more significant but the choice will not always be between a solid PM and a muppet, even if 2020 looks like it might be.
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/01/20/theres-organic-vegan-quad-copter-drone-sale-ebay/
Still, this is not a formal invitation as the headline suggests.
The Guardian comments thread - where it's impossible to tell if people are being sarcastic. https://t.co/T0kQNzdcp8
* They are in the parliaments (assemblys, whatever)
* They are members of the parties that are in[1] government
* But they are not themselves in the government
A British example would be Liam Fox
* He is in the UK Parliament
* He is a member of the party that is in government
* He was a member of the government when he was SecState4Defence
* But he is no longer and now cannot be said to be in the government
[1] insofar as a party can be in government...
Which turneth all to gold;
For that which doth its name impart
Cannot for less be told.
But since it has eluded the finest minds since time immemorial I somehow doubt that Corbyn will succeed where Flamel, Jabir and Lord Percy Percy have failed, I don't rate Corbyn's chances very highly....
Ah, so it's a walkoff, huh?...
Actually, I may have edged it. From his webpage
WELCOME TO THE WEBSITE OF MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT THOMAS AESCHI, SWITZERLAND
Thomas Aeschi has been a member of the Swiss House of Representatives (Nationalrat) since 2011, representing the Canton of Zug as a member of the Swiss People’s Party (SVP). He is a member of the committee on economics and taxation, as well as the EFTA/EU-delegation. He is also a consultant with a leading international management and strategy consulting firm. Previously, Thomas was an analyst in mergers and acquisitions at a leading Swiss bank in Zurich and Melbourne. In 2014, he was nominated by the World Economic Forum as a Young Global Leader. Thomas holds a Master in Public Administration from Harvard University and a Master of Business Administration from the University of St. Gallen where he was also a member of the organizing committee of the St. Gallen Symposium. He also studied at Tel Aviv University in Israel and at University Sains Malaysia, and participated in a one-year American Field Service student exchange at an American high school near Chicago as a teenager. He holds the rank of a first lieutenant in the Swiss military. Thomas enjoys traveling, skiing, and hiking.
Being in the "committee on economics and taxation" doesn't put you in government. Bernard Jenkin is on the European Scrutiny Committee, but he's not in government
I'll take your point that hs position as an EFTA/EU-delegation member makes him important but, again...that's not in government.
So that answer is wrong?
(I don't want this little thread to turn into an Abbot and Costello sketch BTW !)