Hollande declares state of emergency . Borders are being closed and the French army is mobilising
Sky news.
I suggest this is significant and will have ongoing ramifications in respect of the whole issue of open borders. Unfortunately I think we were always going to arrive at this point. I say 'unfortunately' only in the context of the inevitability terrorist acts, the purpose of which can only be provocative. But at some point after a terrorist spectacular the issue of borders was going to be unavoidable. I believe according to news snippets I have picked up we made a number of arrests recently which prevented a spate of similar hostage taking over here.
I'm woefully lacking in detail here but it looks as if the French authorities have:
a) identified a watch lister who isn't at home b) an initial thought not all the perpetrators are French
This is early days and they will be working through such a stream of data and ideas that things will come to the front and then be replaced but we'll see.
US citizens reportedly casualties at that restaurant.
A pity the French security services weren't able to stop this attack. I wonder whether British intelligence had any idea about it.
If you look, there have been a lot of arrests in Europe in recent days. Might be something in it. might not.
"TheScreamingEagles">@keiranpedley: Can we all put politics aside for one night? I have strong views on this - very strong - but now is not the time #solidaritywithparis
Why should we put politics aside? This is all about politics. The enemy is no longer at the gate, it's here and its got hoards of reinforcements on their way.'
That's what we are told to do each time we have these massacres,we then have the happy clappy solidarity bit & then wait for the next massacre which is worse than the previous one.
Tragic events in Paris bringing back the bad memories from my Tunisian experience.
Hoping fort no more deaths in Paris
I fear not as the reports seem to be of hostage taking. The second mad and sickening attack in Paris after the cartoon based attacks. These do not happen on a whim I suspect and must have been planned for some time.
Or at least, the plans were already in place for vengeance should one of ISIS's top targets get taken out. Kinda looks like ISIS just shouted "99".
Hard not to suspect they have something lined up for the UK too....
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
The Telegraph's Rory Mulholland reports: Quote A friend's daughter, Annette, got a text message a few minutes ago from one of her friends who is still in Le Carillon café, one of the places hit. "We all ran inside when the shooting started and dived for the ground. At this moment we have been told by police to remain on the ground. There are several bodies alongside us." The café is usually packed on a Friday night, with dozens of people standing outside drinking or sitting on the terrace. The Petit Cambodge is opposite the Carillon and is also always packed on a weekend night.
Euronews showing wounded being brought out of theatre
A wicked, surreal night. Evil literally walking through the streets of one of the world's greatest cities. All strength to France and the French people. Endure and overcome. There is no other choice.
If it was a suicide bomb at the Stade de France, I find it difficult to believe that it went off when the attackers wanted it to. Surely they would have wanted the crowds around them? If so, that would imply that it exploded prematurely (or possibly late), or that the police / similar exploded it for them.
Maybe couldn't get in.
But the crowds would come out again? All they had to do was wait.
All very sensible, but maybe they sent the trainees out on that job, maybe the stadium wasn't the target, maybe they were late, maybe they were halted at the perimeter, maybe they just didn't care, maybe they panicked, maybe they heard other things in the distance got the adrenaline and pulled the cord.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
If they believe her election would lead to maximum chaos and unrest in the country, they would support that outcome, probably.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
All very sensible, but maybe they sent the trainees out on that job, maybe the stadium wasn't the target, maybe they were late, maybe they were halted at the perimeter, maybe they just didn't care, maybe they panicked, maybe they heard other things in the distance got the adrenaline and pulled the cord.
Huge number of variables.
Doesn't look a very sophisticated set of attacks to me. Deadly, but crude.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
If they believe her election would lead to maximum chaos and unrest in the country, they would support that outcome, probably.
I doubt ISIS give a rat's ass who is in charge of the European powers, Cameron, Le Pen, Corbyn, Merkel etc.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
The whole shifting round the hoards of migrants making their way to the EU, and already here is going to stop pretty soon as well.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
I think the UK, Canada and the USA will be okay. The BNP have completely disintegrated here for example. The problem is mainland European countries.
Tragic events in Paris bringing back the bad memories from my Tunisian experience.
Hoping fort no more deaths in Paris
I fear not as the reports seem to be of hostage taking. The second mad and sickening attack in Paris after the cartoon based attacks. These do not happen on a whim I suspect and must have been planned for some time.
Or at least, the plans were already in place for vengeance should one of ISIS's top targets get taken out. Kinda looks like ISIS just shouted "99".
Hard not to suspect they have something lined up for the UK too....
Yes a fair point, but as I have said in another comment, did we not just the other day make a dozen arrests in foiling a hostage taking plot? Meantime this is the second not dissimilar attack in Paris - the first being the Charlie Hebdo related thing. The explosives, the guns, the recruiting, the planning - this is not all done in a matter of hours surely? At some point an excuse, one suitable for a terrorist anyway, will always crop up. If its based on these drone strikes then it shows we must be winning.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
All very sensible, but maybe they sent the trainees out on that job, maybe the stadium wasn't the target, maybe they were late, maybe they were halted at the perimeter, maybe they just didn't care, maybe they panicked, maybe they heard other things in the distance got the adrenaline and pulled the cord.
Huge number of variables.
Doesn't look a very sophisticated set of attacks to me. Deadly, but crude.
A coordinated set of attacks is simply very difficult. Even a well-organised group is unlikely to get beyond crude.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
If they believe her election would lead to maximum chaos and unrest in the country, they would support that outcome, probably.
I dont think they would have such a nuanced understanding or interest in the democratic voting of another country.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
Obviously not - and they shouted down anybody who did point that out.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
If they believe her election would lead to maximum chaos and unrest in the country, they would support that outcome, probably.
I dont think they would have such a nuanced understanding or interest in the democratic voting of another country.
Is it really that nuanced? The London bomber David Copeland understood it, and he was just one person.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Can't find adequate words of sympathy for those caught up in this. I suspect every secular western democracy with a significant Islamic minority is destined to have major problems over the coming years. Sadly I can also see the far right rising in each of these countries as well as a reaction to the fear. Didn't it occur to any of our politicians that allowing the mass immigration of people with medieval, intolerant, mysoginist, homophobic and anti-western beliefs into our countries wasn't going to end well?
Obviously not - and they shouted down anybody who did point that out.
Our leaders have ignored the wishes of the indigenous populations for decades now. They were and are warned about the dangers of Islamisation daily.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Just to lighten things. Was it your shoes?
Alas no, they were very sober shoes.
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Just to lighten things. Was it your shoes?
Alas no, they were very sober shoes.
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Just to lighten things. Was it your shoes?
Alas no, they were very sober shoes.
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
I have sympathy TSE, but Europe has now clearly a very serious fundamentalist islamist problem
A wicked, surreal night. Evil literally walking through the streets of one of the world's greatest cities. All strength to France and the French people. Endure and overcome. There is no other choice.
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
A wicked, surreal night. Evil literally walking through the streets of one of the world's greatest cities. All strength to France and the French people. Endure and overcome. There is no other choice.
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Just to lighten things. Was it your shoes?
Alas no, they were very sober shoes.
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
This is precisely why we need to retain a sense of calm and proportion. I for one do not want to walk into the elephant trap dug by these terrorists. I am trying to remember the loss of life suffered in the 7/7/and 14/7(?) attacks, but it was severe. I think I was on the London Tube on 8/7 (or very close) and it was a very strange feeling.
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
Now now, keep a sense of perspective! This is a very nasty set of terrorist attacks, like the IRA bombings of the 70s and 80s, but it's not the end of civilisation.
If they are they've gone for the least worst option, if there is line up killing going on, which is a quick strike. I just fear that the most opportune timing moment of 2-3 hours has passed. If so the complications multiply.
Active measures units will often have a database of key buildings that not includes floor plans but have also been surveyed. I have no doubts whatsoever the French have one, its really a question of whether they have one for that theatre. Priceless if they do.
It will be interesting to see the weapon source and whether some dodge-pot in the Benelux region was involved somewhere down the line.
Slackbladder, you could do this with less than a dozen shooters and a few dumbos with the desire to press the big button on their chest.
The sea is our very good friend. Border controls too. Schengen is dead.
It's going to cause chaos in the refugee camps and among all the unfortunate migrants in transit at the moment. No country is going to want to allow them in now. It's going to change everything.
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
Now now, keep a sense of perspective! This is a very nasty set of terrorist attacks, like the IRA bombings of the 70s and 80s, but it's not the end of civilisation.
Richard - this is nothing less than a clash of "civilizations" - to compare the current situation to the IRA is frankly laughable.
I agree. I am not sure to what extent Schengen is directly relevant but this on top of the clear change in the whole picture of mass movements of ultimately millions of people shows it is a busted flush.
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
You can mobilise the regulars, linguistically speaking; not all regularly are war-ready at any particular time.
The Gendarmerie are a paramilitary force. They'll likely be reinforced with regular troops at sensitive sites.
When I was in Paris a few weeks ago, I noticed a much more visible Police presence at Gare du Nord and other touristy places.
Christian Fraser @ChristianFraser 10m10 minutes ago Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
I also noticed they were looking at me very closely.
Just to lighten things. Was it your shoes?
Alas no, they were very sober shoes.
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
Whatever tonight is TSE - it ain't about you - give it a fucking rest eh ?
This is a huge attack. Multiple people, clearly a large network. How can this happen ?
It's concerning they could do this without being infiltrated by the security services or having their communications hacked.
Indeed - A large and coordinated attack on this scale should not have escaped the attention of the French security services. French MI5 asleep at the wheel?
A wicked, surreal night. Evil literally walking through the streets of one of the world's greatest cities. All strength to France and the French people. Endure and overcome. There is no other choice.
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
Hence use of the word overcome. We will defeat them. We are stronger and we are better.
I refuse to believe that ISIS will win this war. We simply can't let them, and if all the European countries + America unite together, I'm sure we can win this war.
One of the purposes of this attack is probably to provoke a reaction leading to a Le Pen win in the presidential election.
I doubt that is a purpose, why?? It would be a consequence, but not a purpose unless you are a false flag believer. I doubt ISIS could care less about the internal politics of France.
If they believe her election would lead to maximum chaos and unrest in the country, they would support that outcome, probably.
I doubt ISIS give a rat's ass who is in charge of the European powers, Cameron, Le Pen, Corbyn, Merkel etc.
Do ISIS have any coherent leadership or strategy? It does not seem to be leading them anywhere.
Now Corbyn is in the Privy Council and will have had told to him the true state of the world, what will he say?
The sea is our very good friend. Border controls too. Schengen is dead.
Interesting that on France 24 the commentators are still talking about how Hollande will have trouble closing the borders because of Schengen. They seem totally divorced from the reality of what is happening.
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Unfortunately I think we were always going to arrive at this point. I say 'unfortunately' only in the context of the inevitability terrorist acts, the purpose of which can only be provocative. But at some point after a terrorist spectacular the issue of borders was going to be unavoidable.
I believe according to news snippets I have picked up we made a number of arrests recently which prevented a spate of similar hostage taking over here.
"TheScreamingEagles">@keiranpedley: Can we all put politics aside for one night? I have strong views on this - very strong - but now is not the time #solidaritywithparis
Why should we put politics aside? This is all about politics. The enemy is no longer at the gate, it's here and its got hoards of reinforcements on their way.'
That's what we are told to do each time we have these massacres,we then have the happy clappy solidarity bit & then wait for the next massacre which is worse than the previous one.
Hard not to suspect they have something lined up for the UK too....
On a pedantic point I am not sure 'mobilising' is the right word, unless the French are indeed calling up reservists.
The Telegraph's Rory Mulholland reports:
Quote
A friend's daughter, Annette, got a text message a few minutes ago from one of her friends who is still in Le Carillon café, one of the places hit. "We all ran inside when the shooting started and dived for the ground. At this moment we have been told by police to remain on the ground. There are several bodies alongside us."
The café is usually packed on a Friday night, with dozens of people standing outside drinking or sitting on the terrace.
The Petit Cambodge is opposite the Carillon and is also always packed on a weekend night.
Euronews showing wounded being brought out of theatre
Huge number of variables.
This is a challenge, a terrible threat, Europe must face and deal with together. We need true leadership now. No handwringing.
The explosives, the guns, the recruiting, the planning - this is not all done in a matter of hours surely?
At some point an excuse, one suitable for a terrorist anyway, will always crop up. If its based on these drone strikes then it shows we must be winning.
Paris was already at highest level of alert. The French army guarding train stations, synagogues, tourist sites. Dreading the next attack/s
Judging by what I'm reading on twitter, I'm likely to get deported along with every other Muslim in the country, so enjoy my shoes whilst you can.
@MLP_officiel
Ce soir l'horreur encore... Nous suspendons nos campagnes jusqu'à nouvel ordre. #Fusillade MLP
Utterly sickening. Europe is under attack, i dont think i can trust myself to remain sensible on the current situation
Hope its stun grenades
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/665304694236053504?lang=en-gb
Cops going in?
Sky news
Yes - but also fight back and defeat this evil. Not just endure it. Long past the time for us to stoically endure this evil. We need to hit back hard and defeat it. I'm not prepared to let European civilization go down without a fight.
I am trying to remember the loss of life suffered in the 7/7/and 14/7(?) attacks, but it was severe. I think I was on the London Tube on 8/7 (or very close) and it was a very strange feeling.
@ShippersUnbound: First call for bombing https://t.co/JUmvYxNVNF
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Thanks Snowden... such a hero.
Active measures units will often have a database of key buildings that not includes floor plans but have also been surveyed. I have no doubts whatsoever the French have one, its really a question of whether they have one for that theatre. Priceless if they do.
It will be interesting to see the weapon source and whether some dodge-pot in the Benelux region was involved somewhere down the line.
Slackbladder, you could do this with less than a dozen shooters and a few dumbos with the desire to press the big button on their chest.
It looks like I was right about 6/8 attacks.
I've just placed a large bet based on the possible implications of this.
Sorry France.
Donation to children in need is on its way. Dunno why, but it seems appropriate.
Sorry again.
RIP.
What's the prognosis now the borders are closed?
Now Corbyn is in the Privy Council and will have had told to him the true state of the world, what will he say?