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Concern about immigration rises sharply in the Sept Ipsos-MORI issues index pic.twitter.com/j3pfvAyDaU
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Surely what the UK government should be doing is encouraging these wealthy people, most of whom are self-made entrepreneurs, back to the UK and contributing to the Treasury..? This would allow for tax cuts for those on low incomes and increased welfare spending which I'm sure you think are worthy causes.
So how do we encourage internationally mobile companies and individuals to locate themselves in the UK, is it by increasing or reducing the rates of tax they would have to pay..?
Immigration numbers to be expected in my opinion -, poor old Ms Schengen, did she die in vane?
Thankfully most of the more egregious Hollywood Accounting-type scams have been shut down, but there will always be a game of cat and mouse between the Treasury and HMRC on one side, and well paid accountants and lawyers on the other.
We have now committed to getting immigration to the tens of thousands and we absolutely must achieve that. Among Conservative voters, a large majority want us to start reducing numbers and feel quite strongly about it.
There still seems to be low hanging fruit such as the domestic worker visas, or the student dependents visa (which I'm told is about 25% Saudis), as well as bringing back the primary purpose rule. I also don't see why we should give out visas for arranged marriages or mail order brides: if you fall in love with someone abroad, that's one thing, but if you're going to marry a near stranger, there are plenty of people available in this country.
If necessary we may need to consider unilaterally suspending free movement of labour. If Germany is allowed to do it for Schengen, I don't see why we can't do something similar.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-childish-fall-back-plan/story?id=34124354
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/divisions-mark-trumps-popularity-bases-broader-carson-fiorina/story?id=34129962
Simplicity and transparency are good things.
Well, that's OK then
Your simple and transparent family company structure is I'm sure a positive thing in the eyes of your customers and shareholders alike. If you had institutional shareholders they would probably take a different view!
Ah but I know a lovely Polish family, ah but our corner shop owner is lovely, ah but the NHS would collapse etc etc.
Mr JEO says below that the majority of tories have concerns, so do the majority of labour voters.
A politician doing the honourable thing is an alien concept to these zoomers.
Then why isn't UKIP benefiting? Farage sure is a shower of sh8t.
Where is concern about immigration coming from? Not really from the places with the most immigrants..
Your point about Farage is another altogether, he may well be what you describe but Ukip have grown and will continue to.
It seems to me that blowing a fortune on a nuclear deterrent and then promising never to use it are what is known as 'the worst of all worlds'.
We may as well save the money.
She may have been aware of this effect when she resigned the whip but that is the effect none the less. Resigning the whip was the right thing to do, allowing a proper investigation to take place.
It is a very good contrast to Alistair Carmichael who continues to cling to his position and embarrass his party.
Democracy? Pah, who needs it.
Farage tells @PoliticoRyan: “Now we’ve got Jeremy Corbyn...I’m mainstream whether we like it or not” http://www.politico.eu/article/farage-ukip-timmermans-eu-grip/ …
London has the lowest levels of concern about immigration at around 35% of those questioned. But given that, according to the 2011 census, 37% of the population of London were born outside the UK and only 45% of the population are white British it is hardly surprising that there is less concern about immigration - because so many of those questioned are either immigrants or the children of immigrants. There is no way to say for sure but on those figures the degree of concern amongst the white British population could be as high as 75%. You just don't know.
This is not to say anything about the rights and wrongs of immigration - just that Harry Evans' and your analysis of the numbers is wrongheaded and illogical.
That's a poster for UKIP in the North, right there.
I've been doing some reading up/research for a future PB thread.
The BNP did well at their peak not in areas with high levels of immigrations but in the areas near to it.**
Add in the voters perceptions of things like how many immigrants being in this country being way off. I think Ipsos Mori found that the public thought 1 in 4 of the population was made up of immigrants when the reality is half that.
You could argue that people's perceptions are wrong on this topic. A bit more reality that might help calm the waters.
**I'm not accusing people who are concerned about immigration are racists, far from it before anyone has an aneurysm.
Edit will also have the views of first/second generation non white immigrants to this country too.
Well Miliband lost Scotland for Labour, so Corbyn needs another area of the country to lose.
"It is understood the initial police investigations will not involve Thomson herself."
My concern is numbers, the infrastructure required to support growth at its current levels is unsustainable: schools, hospitals, roads, utilities, water - where does it end according to those waving the 600k pa in?
The problem is, the only people who will be listening with be the Corbynites, who already think its a good idea.
Blimey.
If that is so, it is a very different concern to that over the levels of legal immigration from other EU states under the freedom of movement principle. That in turn is very different to the concern over the rapid change which many urban districts have seen as a result of the influx of people of different (non-European) cultures over the fifteen or so years, and the related issue of multiculturalism.
From the point of view both of government policy response and the political response of the various political parties, it would be a mistake to ignore these distinctions. For example, Andy Burnham's comments today about cheap labour undermining job security and wages (which actually probably isn't true, but leave that aside) really only relates to legal EU immigration.
My guess is that the EU migrant crisis - or at least the intensive media coverage of it in the UK - will ease off in coming months. The immigration issue will of course remain contentious, and rightly so, but I expect it to subside in importance as we move into winter.
Oh come on you're better than that. Are these white British people doctors and architects in Tunbridge Wells or living in Moss Side? You talk about them as if they're some sort of persecuted minority.
"http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-34395392"
Analysis by Glenn Campbell, BBC Scotland political correspondent
Yet just one minute earlier, at 18:21, a statement issued by Michelle Thomson's personal media adviser made no mention of her stepping down from SNP duties.
It reads:
"I am aware of the police investigation and will cooperate fully if asked to do so. I have always acted within the law and look forward to being cleared of any suggestion of wrongdoing. I will be making no further comment on this matter."
Makes you wonder whether she really did jump or was she pushed?"
That's the one thing a labour can never argue against as these were a matter or record. Instead they blamed everyone but refuse to take any responsibility themselves. It's not the first time they have utterly destroyed the economy leaving if for others to rebuild as they carped from the sidelines.
I hope Corbyn buries Labour forever and really deep as I don't want my children to have to suffer these lunatics as well..
If you have two neighbouring wards in an urban area where one is 40% white British, and the other is 80% white British, and the BNP wins 50% of the white British vote in both, the BNP's vote share will be 20% in the former, and 40% in the latter, but among the pool of voters that would consider voting BNP, the level of support will be the same.
Is quite a chunky sample size of 8,000 I think.
As for the estimation of the share of immigrants in the country, I find it's an irrelevant number. My estimation of how many homes there are available in the country is irrelevant to how big a problem I think a housing shortage is, because my understanding of the housing shortage is based on my personal experiences of it, not based on an abstract number.
It's the same with immigration. For example, imagine Person A thinks there's been too much cultural change in the country and estimates 25% of the population are immigrants. He currently thinks that 25% immigration causes excessive change and thinks current immigration levels are a problem. If you inform him that it's only 12% of the population, that just means he thinks 12% immigration causes excessive change and makes current immigration levels a problem.
British wages are starting to creep up, ONS figures today show pay rising at the biggest annual rate since 2007. (4.7%). Real disposable pay is also up.
Britons have enjoyed the benefits of cheap labour for so long, they may be taking them for granted.
Although recently I'm becoming more sympathetic to the cultural arguments. I don't want a hundreds of thousands of angry young men from the Middle East coming here.
My Mum's biggest complaint for the past few years about Sheffield.
There's too many bloody immigrants, especially those Roma ones.
With a population growth of 500,000 this year, and an average of 2.3 people per household, that's 215,000 new homes just to stand still. 115,000 total new homes were completed this year, a six year high.
Thats a shortfall of 100,000. Again, just to stand still, to not ease in any way any of the pressures on infrastructure or in anyway allow the demand to creep up with the supply, or enable anyone currently locked out of buying a home.
Influx of 'new-to-English' pupils is biggest challenge for Bradford's schools
From the article -
BECOMING swamped with pupils who do not speak English is "one of the biggest challenges" facing Bradford's schools, with numbers likely to soar further, a meeting of school leaders has heard.
And a union leader has warned that "millions of pounds" of extra Government funding was needed to deal with the situation
http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/13780600.Influx_of__new_to_English__pupils_is_biggest_challenge_for_Bradford_s_schools/
I would have thought you would have learned after your dissing of the constituency polls showing UKIP weren't going to take Dover, but apparently not.
The implication being that she may later become involved.
I'll wait for Sunil to insert the "His pattern indicates two dimensional thinking" line from "Wrath of Khan"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3249731/Six-year-high-asylum-claims-4-300-refugees-reached-Britain-single-month.html
For example, polish plumbers are probably welcomed by all bar a few British plumbers, foreign doctors and nurses by pretty much everyone.
Less welcome are those who can't speak English, those coming in arranged marriages from the 3rd world (those two often overlap!) and those unable to be net contributers to society.
There will also be concerns about groups of immigrants forming ghettos in places like Rotherham and Tower Hamlets, bringing less savory elements of their home culture to the UK but seemingly tolerated by authorities here, complaints being dismissed out of hand or condemned as racist.
Other issues would be our inability to deport foreign wrongdoers, and the impact of high immigration on public infrastructure and services such as schools.
Looking forward to seeing this polling, should hopefully generate the required nuanced debate rather than the usual hyperbolic rhetoric deployed by all sides of the discussion.
A nuclear programme, whether for civilian energy or military defence needs perpetual dollops of cash only an affluent stable country can give it.
I'm aghast with horror at the thought that countries in Africa are looking to nuclear power. Anyone who has ever visited Africa will understand the endemic corruption throughout any large project, and the complete lack of any kind of maintenance after construction.
Try driving down a highway... Any highway in africa.. With the exception of South Africa.
I live in upminster, a place with v few immigrants and a large majority of white brits. Safe tory area with a high ukip vote
The next station is barking, v high immigration level and ever decreasing number of white brits. Safe labour area
The people in upminster travel to London via barking.. They see that it's an absolute khazi were no one seems to speak English
There are people more concerned about immigration in Upminster than there are in barking, although probably the level of frustration of those concerned is higher in barking as they are poor and trapped