There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
Just looked at the Populus poll, they've done another spiral of silence thing, like they did on Friday. But they are an ONLINE poll!
In a Populus poll I participated in a few days ago UKIP wasn't even mentioned as party in it's own right but was grouped with others. Needless to say I protested this vigorously in the comments page. Answer came there none, and I don't expect one either.
Haven't we been told to avoid looking at sub-samples?
Reworking the poll by excluding Scotland to leave England and Wales is reasonable. England and Wales is 92% of the electorate.
You can still have anomalies. In this poll, 2% say they'll vote Conservative in Scotland!
You can quite reasonably work backwards. Take a weighted Scotland poll, the last one say, and make it fixed. Now do trial and error with E&W numbers until you get the same distribution party wise GB wide as the poll.
So the first phone poll of the week sees the Tory lead drop 4% in a week, and as we know, phone polls are the gold standard.
You can't compute a drop like that with Ashcroft because there is no way of knowing whether the same polling company did both polls.
I was criticising the fact that we do not know who conducts the Ashcroft polls last week but I was of course shouted down by the PB Tories when it was showing a 6% Tory lead! Last week's Ashcroft was almost certainly an outlier, unless of course you do think that the last week has been that bad for the Tories.
Embarrassingly for you, I just checked. The entire exchange looks like this:
You: Apologies if this has been covered somewhere but do we know who has carried the poll when Lord A publishes one?
RobD: I don't think so, he keeps that info private.
That is "being shouted down by the PBTories, is it? I hope RobD is thoroughly ashamed of himself.
You forgot the "rattled lefty" bit, come on keep up[
THE Scottish National Party is to develop its own flag and a special salute for party members.
Julian Cook, professor of politics at Edinburgh University, said: “A nationalist movement dominating its society in every way. Who in their right mind does not think that’s a brilliant idea?”
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
You do talk complete rubbish at times. This is another example of it. I thought your very peculiar definition of *libertarianism* was a low point. I was wrong.
They've put yesterdays pseudo-False Flag back in the news.
Looks like Murphy has found the SNP's Achilles heel ..
Thuggery, lies and a penchant for anti-democratic behaviour. Whoever would have thought it from a nationalist party?
The Labour Party are a Nationalist party. The Tories are a Nationalist party. The Lib Dems are a Nationalist party.
Which of the three's thugs are you referring to?
Maybe the Labour PPC for St Helens South waiting for her trial for an alleged assault at a Poling Place?
So you think there is no hypocrisy in British nationalists using the word "nationalist" as a pejorative? It is hard to believe what knots British nationalism ties itself up in.
Every time a British nationalist pejoratively refers to SNP or Independence supporters as nats or nationalists they lose the argument. It's the 21st century Godwin.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
So the first phone poll of the week sees the Tory lead drop 4% in a week, and as we know, phone polls are the gold standard.
You can't compute a drop like that with Ashcroft because there is no way of knowing whether the same polling company did both polls.
I was criticising the fact that we do not know who conducts the Ashcroft polls last week but I was of course shouted down by the PB Tories when it was showing a 6% Tory lead! Last week's Ashcroft was almost certainly an outlier, unless of course you do think that the last week has been that bad for the Tories.
Embarrassingly for you, I just checked. The entire exchange looks like this:
You: Apologies if this has been covered somewhere but do we know who has carried the poll when Lord A publishes one?
RobD: I don't think so, he keeps that info private.
That is "being shouted down by the PBTories, is it? I hope RobD is thoroughly ashamed of himself.
You forgot the "rattled lefty" bit, come on keep up[
I think that goes without saying, when you resort to such easily detectable lying.
3.5% swing in England and Wales from Conservative to Labour. If that were uniform, that would result in 41 Labour gains from the Conservatives (assuming that Thurrock goes to UKIP). Factoring in gains from the Lib Dems, and losses to UKIP, that would leave both parties in the 270s.
We know it won't be uniform because Labour are going to do better than average in the big metropolitan centres.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
The end of surplus rural labour — a significant milestone that economists call the Lewis Turning Point — carries profound implications for China’s economy. As the flow of low-paid migrants into Chinese factories slows, workers demand higher pay, a phenomenon that has been evident for several years. This either drives low-end manufacturers out of business or forces them to raise prices, actions that could slow the export growth that has helped drive the country’s economy for decades.
China is explicitly trying to raise real wages, develop the consumer/service sector and subsequently move up the value chain, sweat shops will have to move elsewhere. This is something to be welcomed not avoided.
Tell me about it: we have actually started to make some money from the Chinese; it's great. Expectations are rising there among the population and as the elderly die memories of perpetual hunger and cold are fading away. China is going to become a much harder place to govern and a lot more is going to have to be thrown at its citizens to keep them sweet.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
I think it will. The nationalists are shouting down all opposition. The silent ones will have their revenge at the ballot box. Expect some surprising results from Scotland.
So the first phone poll of the week sees the Tory lead drop 4% in a week, and as we know, phone polls are the gold standard.
You can't compute a drop like that with Ashcroft because there is no way of knowing whether the same polling company did both polls.
I was criticising the fact that we do not know who conducts the Ashcroft polls last week but I was of course shouted down by the PB Tories when it was showing a 6% Tory lead! Last week's Ashcroft was almost certainly an outlier, unless of course you do think that the last week has been that bad for the Tories.
We won't know which were the outliers until the votes are counted.
Personally I'm a little bit warier of LA than others because it is less transparent. It tends to produce pro-Tory results. That in itself is not a problem - ICM does does likewise - but if his Lordship is using ICM wholly or predominantly there would be a certain double-counting.
As a punter I just tend to stand back and look at the bigger picture produced by all the pollsters. Unequivocally they are suggesting a tie, as near as dammit, and in the popular vote that looks pretty much what we will get.
The Conservatives may have a slight edge in GOTV but Labour a similar one in the marginals.
I expect 'Most Seats' to be close - very close.
So do I. But, I think the Tories can't get to the 295 they need. Still, we'll see.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
3.5% swing in England and Wales from Conservative to Labour. If that were uniform, that would result in 41 Labour gains from the Conservatives (assuming that Thurrock goes to UKIP). Factoring in gains from the Lib Dems, and losses to UKIP, that would leave both parties in the 270s.
We know it won't be uniform because Labour are going to do better than average in the big metropolitan centres.
Andy, you are coming up with lots of caveats. I think you are getting a bit nervous !
Just looked at the Populus poll, they've done another spiral of silence thing, like they did on Friday. But they are an ONLINE poll!
In a Populus poll I participated in a few days ago UKIP wasn't even mentioned as party in it's own right but was grouped with others. Needless to say I protested this vigorously in the comments page. Answer came there none, and I don't expect one either.
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
There is a big and significant difference between patriotism and nationalism.
I will keep my forecast for tomorrow night, the problem is that my graphics card burned out so I have to recollect my data temporarily in another computer.
But so far the average for the last 6 polls is LAB 33, CON 32.5, UKIP 13.5, LD 9.5, GRN 5.5.
Not sure if the Tories will have most votes, but increasingly Labour might have most seats.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
How do you know it's getting intimidatory?
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
Yes.
When I went to vote in the Infyref I had to run a gammut of around 20 British Nationalist Orange Order thugs from the lodge next to the polling place. You can probably picture the type, they fit every sterotype, shaved heads, huge beer bellies, glowring at everyone going in.
The intimidation was quite clear.
Obvious Marie Rimmer allegedly took it even further. Assaulting a young mother who simple wanted to exercise her democratic right to vote. Ms Rimmer's reward for this alleged act of British Nationalist thuggery? Labour have named her PPC for the relatively safe seat of St Helens South.
There's a promoted tweet by the Mirror comparing famous backers of Labour and the Tories. Apparently we are supposed to be more impressed by the Labour one. Judge for yourselves:
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Just looked at the Populus poll, they've done another spiral of silence thing, like they did on Friday. But they are an ONLINE poll!
In a Populus poll I participated in a few days ago UKIP wasn't even mentioned as party in it's own right but was grouped with others. Needless to say I protested this vigorously in the comments page. Answer came there none, and I don't expect one either.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
In Glasgow?!
Can you provide a reference for that incident, please? I wonder if you have got the city, the parties, and the 'attack' wrong. Edit: if you recall it as being in a pub then please say so as that fixes it nicely.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
How do you know it's getting intimidatory?
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
I reported the conversation with two Scottish Labour activists whad come down to London.
Apart from Wales and Scotland, I am finding this Election very difficult to read and so have not yet posted by guess at the result.The impact of a major newish party seems to have effects that are not uniform..
That's why I haven't given the Yestapo a cleanish sweep on 7th May in my prediction.
I'd keep my mouth shut in the face of such vociferous campaigning. Shy Labour is becoming like Shy Tories were back in the day. Now you know how it feels. It's not nice.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
I think it will. The nationalists are shouting down all opposition. The silent ones will have their revenge at the ballot box. Expect some surprising results from Scotland.
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
Her trial alleges an assault at a Polling Place.
There are some crimes too horrific to the basic tenets of democracy to not be considered utterly appalling. An assault at a Polling Place is one of those crimes and if anyone is found guilty of such an offence the Sheriff should crack down with the full force of the law. The Polling Place should be sacrosanct.
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
The birth rate collapsed with the depression of the 90's, logically because incomes and social services collapsed too and recovered along with the economy, but it's quality of life and sex education overall that determines the birth rate not just incomes.
If Tories can't form a government by the slimmest of margins, and Labour form a government that looks unable to survive for long, is Cameron still out as Tory leader? Or could he hang on if people think there'll be another election in several months to a year? It seems a narrowly defeated Cameron would still be a better Tory option going into a potential snap election than some untested replacement.
Be careful, you don't want to get the wrong side of Marie Rimmer. She may be 67 but she's got her kicking boots on and if she comes looking for you ...
I think young people's votes would matter - look at how the student vote could well impact the LDs. Right now, however it feels like many politicians simply aren't caring about the issues facing young people, because we don't come out and vote. Whereas many politicians are extraordinarily weary of upsetting the OAPs because they are by far certs to vote.
There's a promoted tweet by the Mirror comparing famous backers of Labour and the Tories. Apparently we are supposed to be more impressed by the Labour one. Judge for yourselves:
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Er... not for me
Andrew Lloyd Webber gave my step-son a fantastic career break, as Rum Tum Tugger in Cats, so I'd rate him the highest of them all.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
To be fair the whole election has been extraordinarily introspective across the UK. Though I take your point; I've a longstanding soft spot for Scotland (no family ties, just visited many times, happy memories etc.) and find the emerging ultranationalism a bit sinister - not in a Godwin way, just in a slightly crap, depressing way.
My personal instinct is generally to avoid those who peddle simple answers to complex questions, especially when combined with nationalism/patriotism, regardless of whether they're doing it from the right or the left.
If Tories can't form a government by the slimmest of margins, and Labour form a government that looks unable to survive for long, is Cameron still out as Tory leader? Or could he hang on if people think there'll be another election in several months to a year? It seems a narrowly defeated Cameron would still be a better Tory option going into a potential snap election than some untested replacement.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
How do you know it's getting intimidatory?
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
I reported the conversation with two Scottish Labour activists whad come down to London.
Ah so it's a report which is "Fair and Balanced" in the Fox News definition of the term.
The Labour leader says he does not accept the assessment of the Institute for Fiscal Studies which has said that debt would be £90 bn higher in 2019/20 if Labour's plans were implemented rather than the Tories.
Mr Miliband also says his campaign vice chairman Lucy Powell was wrong to suggest his decision to carve his key policies in stone wouldn't mean they would never be broken.
Didn't spend too much last time, won't this time, honest...
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
Putin commanded, and the women of Russia obeyed.
If only we had Putin to wish a higher birth rate.
We are about to enter the "echo" of the early 1990s collapse in birth rates, and therefore we can expect the Russian birth rate to decline markedly in the next few years. Especially as the Russian economy contracts.
Golly, CCHQ aren't leaving any stone unturned - they've just called me to go out on polling day to GOTV.
Either: 1. Knock up reminders to the "definite Conservatives" who have not yet voted. Phone or door knocking 2. Duty at a polling station to gather poll card numbers (to cut down on 1st list) 3. Data entry of the poll card numbers - unless they have it automated from point 2. The best run do it.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
In Glasgow?!
Can you provide a reference for that incident, please? I wonder if you have got the city, the parties, and the 'attack' wrong. Edit: if you recall it as being in a pub then please say so as that fixes it nicely.
It happened in the EU election last year and was widely published because - laughably - Farage was forced into a pub for protection.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
How do you know it's getting intimidatory?
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
I reported the conversation with two Scottish Labour activists whad come down to London.
Ah so it's a report which is "Fair and Balanced" in the Fox News definition of the term.
SNP thugs photos in all the websites...Balanced enough for you?
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
Be careful, you don't want to get the wrong side of Marie Rimmer. She may be 67 but she's got her kicking boots on and if she comes looking for you ...
Allegedly. Remember the allegedly for at least a couple of months.
There's a promoted tweet by the Mirror comparing famous backers of Labour and the Tories. Apparently we are supposed to be more impressed by the Labour one. Judge for yourselves:
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Er... not for me
Andrew Lloyd Webber gave my step-son a fantastic career break, as Rum Tum Tugger in Cats, so I'd rate him the highest of them all.
Jo Brand, Russell Brand....are are people with a surname Brand despicable specimens.
There's a promoted tweet by the Mirror comparing famous backers of Labour and the Tories. Apparently we are supposed to be more impressed by the Labour one. Judge for yourselves:
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Er... not for me
LOL....The actual list for both includes more names, but those are both pretty piss poor lists really.
It seems more "on-vogue" to be a former Labour supporting celeb who now rips it out of both sides e.g. Ant & Dec, Noel Gallagher, Cheryl Fernandez-Versini.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
In Glasgow?!
Can you provide a reference for that incident, please? I wonder if you have got the city, the parties, and the 'attack' wrong. Edit: if you recall it as being in a pub then please say so as that fixes it nicely.
It happened in the EU election last year and was widely published because - laughably - Farage was forced into a pub for protection.
I've got a feeling that was in Edinburgh Mike down the Royal Mile, but happy to be corrected.
If Tories can't form a government by the slimmest of margins, and Labour form a government that looks unable to survive for long, is Cameron still out as Tory leader? Or could he hang on if people think there'll be another election in several months to a year? It seems a narrowly defeated Cameron would still be a better Tory option going into a potential snap election than some untested replacement.
I think he'll walk. I am almost always wrong, though.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Well said. The rise of the SNP is as deplorable as the rise of any nationalist movement such as the BNP, the EDL or the FN in France. It's depressing, disturbing and as you say Labour's divisive rhetoric in Scotland bears large responsibility for this sad turn of events.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
How do you know it's getting intimidatory?
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
I reported the conversation with two Scottish Labour activists whad come down to London.
Hmm. Not exactly neutral observers.
I'm beginning to sense that these claims stem rather from a panic that they are losing their control over their public - and that it is an easier excuse than looking into the other reasons. Have a look at that video report by Dan Hoggett (sp?) in the Guardian recently, on Coatbridge.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
Births per 1000 population has been aided by crippling levels of alcoholism and associated mortality. The life expectancy of a Russian male is just 64.
Not a great way to improve the measured birthrate, is it...
Edit: According to wiki, it is actually worse than that, at 62. Just between Sudan and Gabon.
Golly, CCHQ aren't leaving any stone unturned - they've just called me to go out on polling day to GOTV.
Either: 1. Knock up reminders to the "definite Conservatives" who have not yet voted. Phone or door knocking 2. Duty at a polling station to gather poll card numbers (to cut down on 1st list) 3. Data entry of the poll card numbers - unless they have it automated from point 2. The best run do it.
Isn't it a bit late ? Your association /ward should have organised it last week.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
AllyPally Rob, silly question but do you live by Ally Pally is that in the Wood Green and Hornsey Marginal ? if so what do you think ?
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
Putin commanded, and the women of Russia obeyed.
If only we had Putin to wish a higher birth rate.
We are about to enter the "echo" of the early 1990s collapse in birth rates, and therefore we can expect the Russian birth rate to decline markedly in the next few years. Especially as the Russian economy contracts.
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
Which Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow?
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
Only a few months ago Labour, SNP , L/Dems and Tory PBers were quite happy to have Nigel Farage attacked by the rent-a-mob in Glasgow, and many were quite gleeful. How does it feel now that the boots on the other foot and these thugs are attacking Labour and will probably attack Tories in the future too?
In Glasgow?!
Can you provide a reference for that incident, please? I wonder if you have got the city, the parties, and the 'attack' wrong. Edit: if you recall it as being in a pub then please say so as that fixes it nicely.
It happened in the EU election last year and was widely published because - laughably - Farage was forced into a pub for protection.
Ah, thanks. That fixes it - it was the one in the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. IIRC it was a leftie demo and the two who were arrested were either Labour and/or fron south of the border. Nothing to do with the SNP, though many tried to claim that they orchestrated it.
Will the SNP thugs cost them votes?Price of hubris.
Like Marie Rimmer, shortly due in court for an alleged assault during the First Indyref campaign?
I did post a couple of days ago that the atmosphere in Scotland was becoming rather intimidatory for Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
Yes.
When I went to vote in the Infyref I had to run a gammut of around 20 British Nationalist Orange Order thugs
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
There's little political freedom and the one child policy is going to mean a relative labour shortage, raising wages, and then creating a situation akin to our baby boomer pension problem [but writ large].
They've just about ended the one child policy. The last rules will be gone in a few years.
China still faces demog problems, but I don't think they will seriously hurt the economy for another 20-40 years. And there's always the chance they will start manufacturing babies. Literally.
It's hugely difficult to turn round a birthrate that's plummeted.
Russia has.
An impressive feat if true.
It is true, and it confirms my suspicions that the birth rate is strongly correlated with condoms (social-religious factors) , urbanization and income (quality of life).
We know that UKIP won't score enough votes by themselves to win seats without local or tactical votes, they need more that 16% on the national polls to do that.
And Tories don't vote tactically apart for Blairites, so probably no UKIP gains from Labour, even if it means Labour gets most seats. And Labour voters will vote Tory to keep UKIP out, even if that means Tories might get more seats than Labour.
3 seats it is, apart from a surprise if LordA has made a mistake or in a seat that hasn't been polled.
@JoelTaylorMetro: @benatipsosmori tells #bbcnews that indications are that turnout set to be higher than last election; idea that public apathetic misguided
The images from Glasgow of the Nationalist activists are actually quite sad. I went to university in Scotland (Edinburgh) and back then it seemed a far more outward looking place.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
AllyPally Rob, silly question but do you live by Ally Pally is that in the Wood Green and Hornsey Marginal ? if so what do you think ?
Yes indeed, I'm in Muswell Hill. A month ago I'd have said nailed on LAB Gain, but around my area there's Lynne Fetherstone posters and Boards outnumbering Labour one's 3-1 I'd say.
It'll come down to 500 votes either way I'd guess. LAB have to get their vote in Wood Green and 'down the hill' out, because i don't think the Champagne Lefty's have deserted Fetherstone as I thought they would. Also depends what the Tory vote does in areas like Highgate.
We know that UKIP won't score enough votes by themselves to win seats without local or tactical votes, they need more that 16% on the national polls to do that.
And Tories don't vote tactically apart for Blairites, so probably no UKIP gains from Labour, even if it means Labour gets most seats. And Labour voters will vote Tory to keep UKIP out, even if that means Tories might get more seats than Labour.
3 seats it is, apart from a surprise if LordA has made a mistake or in a seat that hasn't been polled.
It's Alliance disease, I'm afraid. Come 2020, UKIP's votes will be more efficiently distributed.
Lib dems briefing privately that they are confident abt Carshalton and Wallington and Kingston but a tad concerned about Sutton and Cheam and very concerned about Twickenham... Boris just completed his fourth visit of the campaign to Sutton and Cheam..
@JoelTaylorMetro: @benatipsosmori tells #bbcnews that indications are that turnout set to be higher than last election; idea that public apathetic misguided
The public are apathetic, they just want to express their apathy in the polling booth. Thus no party has a strong surge behind it apart from the SNP and no surge against it apart from the LD.
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
There's a promoted tweet by the Mirror comparing famous backers of Labour and the Tories. Apparently we are supposed to be more impressed by the Labour one. Judge for yourselves:
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Er... not for me
I look at that list and I think only stratospherically rich people can afford to vote Labour.
Labour's idea of "the rich" is people who earn quite a good salary in the private sector. Public sector millionaires they are fine with - because they all want to be one - and multi-billionaires they simply fellate.
Lib dems briefing privately that they are confident abt Carshalton and Wallington and Kingston but a tad concerned about Sutton and Cheam and very concerned about Twickenham... Boris just completed his fourth visit of the campaign to Sutton and Cheam..
3.5% swing in England and Wales from Conservative to Labour. If that were uniform, that would result in 41 Labour gains from the Conservatives (assuming that Thurrock goes to UKIP). Factoring in gains from the Lib Dems, and losses to UKIP, that would leave both parties in the 270s.
We know it won't be uniform because Labour are going to do better than average in the big metropolitan centres.
Andy, you are coming up with lots of caveats. I think you are getting a bit nervous !
I'm not supporting the Tories so I'm not nervous about them losing office. If that happens, congratulations to Ed.
THE Scottish National Party is to develop its own flag and a special salute for party members.
Julian Cook, professor of politics at Edinburgh University, said: “A nationalist movement dominating its society in every way. Who in their right mind does not think that’s a brilliant idea?”
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Every time a British nationalist pejoratively refers to SNP or Independence supporters as nats or nationalists they lose the argument. It's the 21st century Godwin.
From recent visits it seems to have turned inwards become preoccupied with its own national identity, saltires flying everywhere ect. I heard Sturgeon on Radio 2 earlier and they played the proclaimers because its her favourite song apparently, such an obvious and boring choice. I imagine if they'd have asked what her favourite soft drink was she'd have inevitably said Irn-Bru aswell.
Maybe its just me but a country that has to shout about its patriotism doesn't strike me as one that is at ease with itself.
IMHO both Labour and SNP politicians are partly responsible for this, playing up victimisation of the Scots for their own political gain. As a Labour voter I'm saddened to say that.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32587377
Other political views to be expressed.Rather expected this sort of event to happen given the buildup
@paulhutcheon: New from Electoral Commission: body called "Focus on Scotland" gives 105k to the @Conservatives #GE2015
@TimGatt: Ed Miliband slaps down his election chief over #Edstone? https://t.co/Dt2rWz6jZo
http://www.populus.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/OmOnline_Vote_05-05-2015_BPC.pdf
You're talking about Marie Rimmer who will be the new MP for St Helens South even if she ate Nicola Sturgeon's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
But so far the average for the last 6 polls is LAB 33, CON 32.5, UKIP 13.5, LD 9.5, GRN 5.5.
Not sure if the Tories will have most votes, but increasingly Labour might have most seats.
Thrugh the media, all of which is anti-SNP except for one daily (perhaps two) and one Sunday, both Scottish?
When I went to vote in the Infyref I had to run a gammut of around 20 British Nationalist Orange Order thugs from the lodge next to the polling place. You can probably picture the type, they fit every sterotype, shaved heads, huge beer bellies, glowring at everyone going in.
The intimidation was quite clear.
Obvious Marie Rimmer allegedly took it even further. Assaulting a young mother who simple wanted to exercise her democratic right to vote. Ms Rimmer's reward for this alleged act of British Nationalist thuggery? Labour have named her PPC for the relatively safe seat of St Helens South.
Lab
Ronnie O'Sullivan, Delia, JK Rowling, Eddie Izzard, Jo Brand, Russell Brand (!), Martin freeman, Paul O'Grady, Ian McKellen, Daniel radcliffe
Con
Murdoch, Karen Brady, Gary Barlow, Andrew Lloyd Webber, Katie Hopkins
OK Hopkins is a dreadful specimen, but otherwise it's 2 luvvies vs 7 (yawn), leaving a snooker player, a chef and a children's author vs 2 highly successful business people.
is that the best they can do? It's clearly portrayed as a no-brained slam-dunk win for Labour.
Er... not for me
Can you provide a reference for that incident, please? I wonder if you have got the city, the parties, and the 'attack' wrong. Edit: if you recall it as being in a pub then please say so as that fixes it nicely.
I reported the conversation with two Scottish Labour activists whad come down to London.
I'd keep my mouth shut in the face of such vociferous campaigning. Shy Labour is becoming like Shy Tories were back in the day. Now you know how it feels. It's not nice.
There are some crimes too horrific to the basic tenets of democracy to not be considered utterly appalling. An assault at a Polling Place is one of those crimes and if anyone is found guilty of such an offence the Sheriff should crack down with the full force of the law. The Polling Place should be sacrosanct.
Be careful, you don't want to get the wrong side of Marie Rimmer. She may be 67 but she's got her kicking boots on and if she comes looking for you ...
@Ghedebrav
I think young people's votes would matter - look at how the student vote could well impact the LDs. Right now, however it feels like many politicians simply aren't caring about the issues facing young people, because we don't come out and vote. Whereas many politicians are extraordinarily weary of upsetting the OAPs because they are by far certs to vote.
My personal instinct is generally to avoid those who peddle simple answers to complex questions, especially when combined with nationalism/patriotism, regardless of whether they're doing it from the right or the left.
Blowing a houlie down here in the South. Holding onto leaflets for dear life!
Lab have organised a big volunteer team for GOTV in this marginal.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2015-32557049
If only we had Putin to wish a higher birth rate.
We are about to enter the "echo" of the early 1990s collapse in birth rates, and therefore we can expect the Russian birth rate to decline markedly in the next few years. Especially as the Russian economy contracts.
1. Knock up reminders to the "definite Conservatives" who have not yet voted. Phone or door knocking
2. Duty at a polling station to gather poll card numbers (to cut down on 1st list)
3. Data entry of the poll card numbers - unless they have it automated from point 2.
The best run do it.
It seems more "on-vogue" to be a former Labour supporting celeb who now rips it out of both sides e.g. Ant & Dec, Noel Gallagher, Cheryl Fernandez-Versini.
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6442247/Browns-boo-boys.html
Wait a minute it's not the Nats !!
I'm beginning to sense that these claims stem rather from a panic that they are losing their control over their public - and that it is an easier excuse than looking into the other reasons. Have a look at that video report by Dan Hoggett (sp?) in the Guardian recently, on Coatbridge.
Not a great way to improve the measured birthrate, is it...
Edit: According to wiki, it is actually worse than that, at 62. Just between Sudan and Gabon.
Con 278
Lab 265
LD 25
SNP 55
PC 4
UKIP 3
Spkr 1
Green 1
NI 18 (DUP 10, SF 4, SDLP 3, Lady H 1)
Labour Minority Govt with unofficial SNP/PC/SDLP support
**perks up**
Those thugs were flaunting the rules, clearly.
And Tories don't vote tactically apart for Blairites, so probably no UKIP gains from Labour, even if it means Labour gets most seats.
And Labour voters will vote Tory to keep UKIP out, even if that means Tories might get more seats than Labour.
3 seats it is, apart from a surprise if LordA has made a mistake or in a seat that hasn't been polled.
@JoelTaylorMetro: @benatipsosmori tells #bbcnews that indications are that turnout set to be higher than last election; idea that public apathetic misguided
We're going to try to overturn a LD safeish seat - if you call that *desperate* it's a new definition for me. I'd call it ambitious.
Or perhaps within touching distance.
It'll come down to 500 votes either way I'd guess. LAB have to get their vote in Wood Green and 'down the hill' out, because i don't think the Champagne Lefty's have deserted Fetherstone as I thought they would. Also depends what the Tory vote does in areas like Highgate.
Boris just completed his fourth visit of the campaign to Sutton and Cheam..
Thus no party has a strong surge behind it apart from the SNP and no surge against it apart from the LD.
Labour's idea of "the rich" is people who earn quite a good salary in the private sector. Public sector millionaires they are fine with - because they all want to be one - and multi-billionaires they simply fellate.
Sounds a bit pre-war to me.