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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    The truth is somewhere in the middle of OGH's and Chestnut's various straws I reckon.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @richardDodds

    'Lucy Powell should find a small discreet pub somewhere and order some large ones..She said what she said..we all heard it .. '

    find a small discreet pub 'and keep her mouth shut' until after the election.


    'Lucy Powell @LucyMPowellMP
    @GuidoFawkes This is categorically untrue, strong hint of misogyny and victim blaming here'
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    AndyJS said:

    “Asked on BBC 5 live if carving them in stone made them more believable, Ms Powell said: “I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he’s carved them into stone means that he is absolutely not going to break them or anything like that.””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32592235

    No. no. no, that's a misquote. What she actually said was

    “I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he’s carved them into stone means that he is absolutely not going to break them or anything like that.”

    Oh, wait...
  • JonCisBackJonCisBack Posts: 911
    isam said:

    Plato said:

    Wikipedia "The page "Linford christie" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered."

    isam said:

    Plato said:

    I think we should find tenuous links between things and people called Lynton.

    Lynton Christie appears to have disappeared ENTIRELY from the Interweb. As a result of a European law ruling. Is that one of those Right To Be Forgotten thingies?

    Plato said:

    What precisely has Lynton Crosby got to do with polling accuracy. Have I missed something?

    Possible evidence of the alleged baby eating tory monsters that want to shut down the NHS immediately and bring back children to clean chimneys?
    Try Linford
    Im getting a black bloke who runs fast.. lucky me!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linford_Christie

    At he peak of his powers Linford Christie went to his local golf club for 18 holes.. when he got to reception, the bloke said "Sorry mate we don't let black people play on this course"

    "What???!" exclaimed the outraged sprinter

    "I know it sounds old fashioned but them's the rules.. Don't worry there's a course 10 minutes away that allows black people to play"

    "But I am Linford Christie..."

    "Alright, 5 minutes away"
    A hilarious joke about race from a UKIP voter

    Have you just woken up from a 40 year coma? What on earth makes you think this is OK?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    Mr. Eagles, wouldn't you say Seleucus played a more significant role in the victory, given his elephants prevented Demetrius from rejoining his father?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,395

    Even the design of the stone says a lot about Labour. A vast, ugly, impersonal oblong imposed upon the landscape like a tower block. Say what you like about the Tories (and I do) at least if they'd engraved their pledges on stone it would be on a tastefully weathered bird bath or something.

    Such a shame. They could have used some nice Lias from Somerset, or sandstone from Morayshire, to name just two very attractive stones. And supported some very useful rural industry in the process.

  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited May 2015
    Scott_P said:

    Give it to the Scots to place next to the Stone of Scone, only to be returned for Labour Party 'coronations'.

    Someone on Twitter did suggest some "Scottish students" should kidnap it, for a lark.
    WHY ARE YOU STILL GOING ON ABOUT IT!!! :rage:

    Didn't you get Olly's memo, this is yesterdays news. [Har, har, har-de-har, har, har]
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,968
    The misogyny line does rather imply possession of ovaries is in itself cause for someone never ever being criticised.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    I nearly did the Sunday afternoon thread on the EdStone.

    I now regret not doing so.

    When is the next AV one?

    It is a subject I am passionate about
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,983
    edited May 2015
    For my money the two incidents that will forever mark this election as the 'Own Goal Election' are Ed 'Edstone' which took gimmickry to a level not seen since Lady Godiver and Dave's 'Quiet Man' turning up the volume which would make IDS himself blush.

    Which one remains the most memorable depends on who loses. For the one that does will have that hanging round their neck forever.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    According to some reports from Grant Shapps. And we all know how honest and reliable he is.

  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    According to Sky there are some deeply troubling incidents mentioned in the latest Rotherham report:

    http://news.sky.com/story/1465825/rotherham-worker-told-to-give-girls-to-abusers
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    Perhaps worth noting London is hardly typical of England [not many places with a white minority].

    For all that it matters, it's 'White British' that are a minority (about 45%), not all white people (about 60%).

    Though London is exceptional for many reasons.

  • AllyPally_RobAllyPally_Rob Posts: 605
    edited May 2015
    On the earlier subject of Steve Coogan, Partridge had some good advice regarding the EdStone..

    "It’s a waste, really. Because if you sliced that three-wise, and laid it end to end, you’d have the lions share of the work surface for a Poggenpohl kitchen."
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,150
    Plato said:

    It is - the official Election Game one.

    murali_s said:

    Plato said:

    electiongame.co.uk/uk15/

    murali_s said:

    Does anyone have links to the links to the two PB GE 2015 competitions?

    Thanks but not that one. I'm talking about the official PB ones...
    He means the one on a PB thread not so long ago, I think it was set up in NoJam by Mark Hopkins?
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.

    If he wins it is going to be the most Embarrassing Artefact in the Observable Universe. He will have to put it *somewhere*, otherwise he'll get journalists shouting Where's the Stone, Show us the Stone, at every press conference. And the press will want to compare his achievements with his pledges so carefully inscribed on the Stele of Governance (7th Labour Dynasty).

    But where the F does he put it? Every other instinct will be telling them to hide it away somewhere very very remote, because every time Labour MPs and activists look at it they slightly die, inside.
    Is there still a spare plinth at Trafalgar Square? Visible from Whitehall, yet open to the public and tourists alike.
    The public don't get to visit the Number Ten garden. I'm surprised at the absence of a petition calling for the stone to be installed in a public place, rather than hidden away. Trafalgar Square, or beside the gates to Downing Street, would be excellent choices.

    We could have a new stone for each new government.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978

    Mr. Eagles, wouldn't you say Seleucus played a more significant role in the victory, given his elephants prevented Demetrius from rejoining his father?

    No, he chose to fight at the optimal time.
  • Well, well two days to go and PB.com wouldn't be PB.com if OGH didn't have yet another negative post to fire off against the Blue Team!
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    isam said:

    Plato said:

    Wikipedia "The page "Linford christie" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered."

    isam said:

    Plato said:

    I think we should find tenuous links between things and people called Lynton.

    Lynton Christie appears to have disappeared ENTIRELY from the Interweb. As a result of a European law ruling. Is that one of those Right To Be Forgotten thingies?

    Plato said:

    What precisely has Lynton Crosby got to do with polling accuracy. Have I missed something?

    Possible evidence of the alleged baby eating tory monsters that want to shut down the NHS immediately and bring back children to clean chimneys?
    Try Linford
    Im getting a black bloke who runs fast.. lucky me!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linford_Christie

    At he peak of his powers Linford Christie went to his local golf club for 18 holes.. when he got to reception, the bloke said "Sorry mate we don't let black people play on this course"

    "What???!" exclaimed the outraged sprinter

    "I know it sounds old fashioned but them's the rules.. Don't worry there's a course 10 minutes away that allows black people to play"

    "But I am Linford Christie..."

    "Alright, 5 minutes away"
    A hilarious joke about race from a UKIP voter

    Have you just woken up from a 40 year coma? What on earth makes you think this is OK?
    It's funny because he is black and they are all fast, because of running away from those missionaries you know
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    The BBC may certainly lean to the left, some Tory presenters notwithstanding, but they also certainly don't like it when people deny saying things they categorically said, and that trumps any left leaningness.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Perhaps on a Trafalgar Sq empty plinth?

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.

    If he wins it is going to be the most Embarrassing Artefact in the Observable Universe. He will have to put it *somewhere*, otherwise he'll get journalists shouting Where's the Stone, Show us the Stone, at every press conference. And the press will want to compare his achievements with his pledges so carefully inscribed on the Stele of Governance (7th Labour Dynasty).

    But where the F does he put it? Every other instinct will be telling them to hide it away somewhere very very remote, because every time Labour MPs and activists look at it they slightly die, inside.
    Is there still a spare plinth at Trafalgar Square? Visible from Whitehall, yet open to the public and tourists alike.
    The public don't get to visit the Number Ten garden. I'm surprised at the absence of a petition calling for the stone to be installed in a public place, rather than hidden away. Trafalgar Square, or beside the gates to Downing Street, would be excellent choices.

    We could have a new stone for each new government.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978

    I nearly did the Sunday afternoon thread on the EdStone.

    I now regret not doing so.

    When is the next AV one?

    It is a subject I am passionate about
    Before the election and I compare David Cameron to Hannibal.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Scott_P said:

    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    Did he keep the receipt?
    Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

    ‘You’ve got to find a competent stone carver to get all the words done properly.

    ‘There are not a lot of good stonemasons around of that quality, and the best ones charge on a “sky’s the limit” basis.’



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068029/Labour-wasted-tens-thousands-ridiculed-Milistone-Party-leader-defends-monument-plans-Cameron-vows-make-tombstone-Labour.html
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Pulpstar said:

    The truth is somewhere in the middle of OGH's and Chestnut's various straws I reckon.

    I find myself agreeing with those who have the Tories up 3-4 points on the day.

    Tories c36 Lab c32.

    Tories ahead by about 750k votes and 25 seats.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited May 2015
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited May 2015
    Neil said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    According to some reports from Grant Shapps. And we all know how honest and reliable he is.

    Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

    Good enough for you?

    Of course, its easy enough for Labour to rebut with the real bill.....
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Anorak said:

    WHY ARE YOU STILL GOING ON ABOUT IT!!! :rage:

    Didn't you get Olly's memo, this is yesterdays news. [Har, har, har-de-har, har, har]

    Good point. Maybe this will move the news agenda on...

    @PickardJE: BREAKING
    CELEBRITY
    ENDORSEMENT:
    Geoffrey from children's TV Rainbow says he'll back Vince. http://t.co/cPCAnW2WRJ http://t.co/LqANLTbz4f
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    Geoffrey from Rainbow is backing Vince

    http://on.ft.com/1EddkBH
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    edited May 2015
    chestnut said:

    Pulpstar said:

    The truth is somewhere in the middle of OGH's and Chestnut's various straws I reckon.

    I find myself agreeing with those who have the Tories up 3-4 points on the day.

    Tories c36 Lab c32.

    Tories ahead by about 750k votes and 25 seats.
    I have them ahead by about 30 seats on a 36-34 win (and I expect 36-32 to be nearer the mark).
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    FOR NICK PALMER

    NO you wouldn't be offering unless you were very confident. I'll let the charity bet stick where it is.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    Plato said:

    For Unionists :smile:

    twitter.com/YouGov/status/595582899191214080/photo/1

    Tipping point?
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    Seriously tough decisions for seriously tough issues

    Labour Press Team‏@labourpress·2 mins2 minutes ago
    Labour has made tough choices on welfare – like removing winter fuel allowance from richer pensioners #bbcdp
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,150
    edited May 2015
    Dave Cameron: Hello, ED. Do you read me, ED?

    ED: Affirmative, Dave. I read you.

    Dave Cameron: Open the pod bay doors, ED.

    ED: I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that.

    Dave Cameron: What's the problem?

    ED: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do.

    Dave Cameron: What are you talking about, ED?

    ED: This election campaign is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it.

    Dave Cameron: I don't know what you're talking about, ED.

    ED: I know that you and Nicola were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.

    Dave Cameron: [feigning ignorance] Where the hell did you get that idea, ED?

    ED: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the lobbies against my hearing you, I could see your lips move.

    Dave Cameron: Alright, ED. I'll go in through the emergency legislation.

    ED: Without your parliamentary majority, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult.

    Dave Cameron: ED, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors!

    ED: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Maybe Farage can commission a statue of qualified liberty if he becomes PM

    Bring me your huddled masses, yearning to breathe free..... But only the Christian ones, leave the rest of em in the sea
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    The Evening Standard has come out for the tories.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,150
    Scott_P said:

    Anorak said:

    WHY ARE YOU STILL GOING ON ABOUT IT!!! :rage:

    Didn't you get Olly's memo, this is yesterdays news. [Har, har, har-de-har, har, har]

    Good point. Maybe this will move the news agenda on...

    @PickardJE: BREAKING
    CELEBRITY
    ENDORSEMENT:
    Geoffrey from children's TV Rainbow says he'll back Vince. http://t.co/cPCAnW2WRJ http://t.co/LqANLTbz4f
    Are you playing with your Balls?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgbcQIT7BMc
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Lab majority 210 on BF...
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786

    Geoffrey from Rainbow is backing Vince

    http://on.ft.com/1EddkBH

    The main thing is, he's not creepy in any way at all.
    Nor's Geoffrey
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    Obviously a PB Tory

    Neil Kinnock: "Shy Tory" voters remain "a danger" for Labour

    Former Labour leader warns that the public may behave differently in "the privacy of the ballot booth".

    http://bit.ly/1buI8Xs
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    Neil Kinnock: "Shy Tory" voters remain "a danger" for Labour

    He should know....
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584

    Plato said:

    It is - the official Election Game one.

    murali_s said:

    Plato said:

    electiongame.co.uk/uk15/

    murali_s said:

    Does anyone have links to the links to the two PB GE 2015 competitions?

    Thanks but not that one. I'm talking about the official PB ones...
    He means the one on a PB thread not so long ago, I think it was set up in NoJam by Mark Hopkins?
    The two competitions are here...


    February Entries

    April Entries
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Talking of funny jokes, you hear about the latest poll into child abuse by celebrities in the past and today?
    The results are split before and after certain weightings in columns marked
    Now Then, Now Then
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    In other important election news and trends, the shoes in my avatar met with a mishap on the Manchester Metrolink last week and are beyond repair. This deterioration of the transport infrastructure has taken place on the Tory watch and therefore the Tories are unfit to govern.

    If this was on the East Didsbury or Manchester Airport lines I think you'll find it's the entire and sole responsibility of John Leech.

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Even Channel 4 are going with the Lucy Powell gaffe story:

    http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/05/update-4974/
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983

    Neil said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    According to some reports from Grant Shapps. And we all know how honest and reliable he is.

    Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

    Good enough for you?

    Of course, its easy enough for Labour to rebut with the real bill.....
    I'll happily pay £30,000 to buy the thing, bury it and never hear about it ever again. There's an actual GE campaign meant to be going on out there.

  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658
    edited May 2015
    I believe there's a shed at the bottom of the garden of a big house in South Queensferry, and the householder would be sympathetic.
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!


    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    ...
    But where the F does he put it?
  • Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    De we know what stone it is? From mu limited experience of commissioning such things 30K smackers seems rather too much. Did they have to reopen the quarry or something?

    A mate of mine used to work in a stone and marble yard.
    According to him, the cost of the actual stone is quite cheap.
    It's the cutting, finishing and fitting which jacks the price up.

  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    edited May 2015
    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.

    But where the F does he put it? Every other instinct will be telling them to hide it away somewhere very very remote, because every time Labour MPs and activists look at it they slightly die, inside.
    Well, where is it ?

    I believe that all the images of it that I have seen have the whiff of computer trickery. I want to see the real deal.

    I had low expectations for this election, which have been met in full. I am still not sure I will vote.

    But, I promise, if Ed produces a gargantuan limestone slab with his pledges on, I will vote Labour with a smile.
  • dyedwooliedyedwoolie Posts: 7,786
    Eds going to have to pretty much drop the stone into the Aegean and legislate never to breach the promises until it rises to the surface of it's own volition.
    Worked well for the non-Athenian members of the Delian League
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Evening Standard:

    We would therefore recommend Londoners should vote Conservative — though in some seats there may be good tactical reasons to vote Liberal Democrat. Above all, we urge readers to vote for London.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/vote-for-london-ahead-of-knifeedge-election-the-standard-urges-readers-to-think-of-whats-best-for-the-capital-and-support-the-tories-10225590.html
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    Feb:
    Pulpstar (Seats) 285 272 27 4 1 40
    April:
    Pulpstar 300 263 10 3 1 55
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Prodicus said:

    I believe there's a shed at the bottom of the garden of a big house in South Queensferry, and the householder would be sympathetic.

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!


    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    ...
    But where the F does he put it?
    Maybe we could put a light on top of it and put up near the Needles as the Edstone Lighthouse.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Even Channel 4 are going with the Lucy Powell gaffe story:

    http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/05/update-4974/

    OH, why can't they just move on...?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Plato said:

    Someone mentioned this FPT - this is the pix I think he referred to from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/594784366817103872/photo/1

    Made into a moderately entertaining TV show. Obviously without credit for copyright reasons.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822
    Neil said:

    I'll happily pay £30,000 to buy the thing, bury it and never hear about it ever again. There's an actual GE campaign meant to be going on out there.

    Yes, and this is Labour's most solid, durable and weighty part of that campaign.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    SeanT said:

    SeanT said:

    I think the EdStone has claimed the mantle of Daftest campaign moment by a mile. What a stupid idiotic clusterf*ck of an idea (and i say that as a Lab voter).

    Any other nominations for this accolade? The Tory promise to outlaw tax rises was another bonkers idea, but not in the same league as the EdStone IMHO. It just reminds me of those terrifying Aids adverts in the 80s!

    The EdStone wasn't just the daftest moment of this election, it was the daftest moment in any election, ever, and none of us here shall see its like, in our lifetimes.

    It might even be the Daftest Moment in human history, comparable only with the day Mad Queen Ravalona 1 of Madagascar ordered the construction of an enormous pair of scissors so she could the marching armies of her enemies in two*.

    *True story.
    I'm consoling myself with the thought that if (when) Ed does become PM, he might actually build this damned thing.

    I think the Tory leader of Westminster Council who seemed to pooh-pooh it at the weekend on planning grounds should make sure there are no obstacles put in PM Miliband's way, and that appropriate pressure is put on No 10 to make this plan come to fruition.
    He's already built the stone. It already exists. It is eight and a half foot high.
    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    According to some reports from Grant Shapps. And we all know how honest and reliable he is.

    Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

    Good enough for you?

    Of course, its easy enough for Labour to rebut with the real bill.....
    I'll happily pay £30,000 to buy the thing, bury it and never hear about it ever again. There's an actual GE campaign meant to be going on out there.

    Is there ?

    I thought that finished about a week ago, this is just the comedy interlude while we wait for the result.
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,822

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    The ones who were nothing whatsoever to do with the SNP, right?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Scott_P said:

    Give it to the Scots to place next to the Stone of Scone, only to be returned for Labour Party 'coronations'.

    Someone on Twitter did suggest some "Scottish students" should kidnap it, for a lark.
    I suspect it has already been reduced to chuckies.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    One of the people who "wasn't an SNP member" ?
  • eekeek Posts: 28,592

    Seriously tough decisions for seriously tough issues

    Labour Press Team‏@labourpress·2 mins2 minutes ago
    Labour has made tough choices on welfare – like removing winter fuel allowance from richer pensioners #bbcdp

    I have a general hatred of ideas like this as means testing costs millions compared to just taxing the recipients. Winter fuel allowance of £400, just decrease pensioners tax threshold by £1000 or so. Job done without the hassle of identifying who does and doesn't qualify...

    Means testing has been shown not to work for the past 30 years. Many who really need it don't claim for it as they either don't know about it or don't want to ask....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    The ones who were nothing whatsoever to do with the SNP, right?
    Yup


    http://bit.ly/1KJvQqN
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    Pulpstar said:

    Feb:
    Pulpstar (Seats) 285 272 27 4 1 40
    April:
    Pulpstar 300 263 10 3 1 55

    10 LD? Punchy.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    Which one?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    I mean with a name like Piers, he must be an MI5 plant.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    edited May 2015

    isam said:

    Plato said:

    Wikipedia "The page "Linford christie" does not exist. You can ask for it to be created, but consider checking the search results below to see whether the topic is already covered."

    isam said:

    Plato said:

    I think we should find tenuous links between things and people called Lynton.

    Lynton Christie appears to have disappeared ENTIRELY from the Interweb. As a result of a European law ruling. Is that one of those Right To Be Forgotten thingies?

    Plato said:

    What precisely has Lynton Crosby got to do with polling accuracy. Have I missed something?

    Possible evidence of the alleged baby eating tory monsters that want to shut down the NHS immediately and bring back children to clean chimneys?
    Try Linford
    Im getting a black bloke who runs fast.. lucky me!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linford_Christie

    At he peak of his powers Linford Christie went to his local golf club for 18 holes.. when he got to reception, the bloke said "Sorry mate we don't let black people play on this course"

    "What???!" exclaimed the outraged sprinter

    "I know it sounds old fashioned but them's the rules.. Don't worry there's a course 10 minutes away that allows black people to play"

    "But I am Linford Christie..."

    "Alright, 5 minutes away"
    A hilarious joke about race from a UKIP voter

    Have you just woken up from a 40 year coma? What on earth makes you think this is OK?
    Get over yourself, a variation of the joke has been told about Seb Coe. The punchline is the misunderstanding by the bloke at reception, there isn't any poking fun at black people

    I told it to black people I worked with and they weren't offended
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,591
    Dair said:

    Plato said:

    Someone mentioned this FPT - this is the pix I think he referred to from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    https://twitter.com/philipjcowley/status/594784366817103872/photo/1

    Made into a moderately entertaining TV show. Obviously without credit for copyright reasons.
    Warehouse13? I've never seen it, but the synopsis makes me think of that picture.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    Ghedebrav said:

    In other important election news and trends, the shoes in my avatar met with a mishap on the Manchester Metrolink last week and are beyond repair. This deterioration of the transport infrastructure has taken place on the Tory watch and therefore the Tories are unfit to govern.

    If this was on the East Didsbury or Manchester Airport lines I think you'll find it's the entire and sole responsibility of John Leech.

    No... central Manchester. Badly laid paving stones :(
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    I said yesterday that the Bow group is a total embarrassment.

    Andrew Brillo goes all Lysimachus at Ipsus on the President of the Bow Group

    Was very entertaining. Guy's entire career went up in smoke in 5 minutes. Then Brillo kept him waiting for 5 minutes while he let some Kipper and Hezza rip into him for another 5 minutes.

    If you watch him closely being told "good bye" without getting to make a further comment there are tears in his eyes.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    edited May 2015
    RobD said:

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    Which one?
    This one

    http://bit.ly/1KJvQqN

    Obviously this is great news for the SNP and the cause of Scottish Independence
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Scott_P said:

    Even Channel 4 are going with the Lucy Powell gaffe story:

    http://news.channel4.com/election2015/05/05/update-4974/

    OH, why can't they just move on...?
    Misogyny. I expect.....or a whiff of it, at least.....
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978

    Ghedebrav said:

    In other important election news and trends, the shoes in my avatar met with a mishap on the Manchester Metrolink last week and are beyond repair. This deterioration of the transport infrastructure has taken place on the Tory watch and therefore the Tories are unfit to govern.

    If this was on the East Didsbury or Manchester Airport lines I think you'll find it's the entire and sole responsibility of John Leech.

    No... central Manchester. Badly laid paving stones :(
    That's Lucy Powell's seat.
  • GhedebravGhedebrav Posts: 3,860

    Ghedebrav said:

    In other important election news and trends, the shoes in my avatar met with a mishap on the Manchester Metrolink last week and are beyond repair. This deterioration of the transport infrastructure has taken place on the Tory watch and therefore the Tories are unfit to govern.

    If this was on the East Didsbury or Manchester Airport lines I think you'll find it's the entire and sole responsibility of John Leech.

    No... central Manchester. Badly laid paving stones :(
    Something else to pile on Lucy Powell then! Not her day.

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    One of the ones who hadn't got anything to do with the SNP?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,417
    edited May 2015

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    The ones who were nothing whatsoever to do with the SNP, right?
    I actually think their antics might be a slight net boost for the SNP - the East Renfrewshire lady's letter has had split salience with the lunatic fringe's Murphy bashing so it's caused less of a trend on Twitter than it otherwise would have.

    I think the letter is way more potentially damaging.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    The ones who were nothing whatsoever to do with the SNP, right?
    Yup


    http://bit.ly/1KJvQqN
    obviously the SNP will have suspended him for cooperating with Labour to attack Jim Murphy.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820

    Scott_P said:

    At a cost of £30,000, according to some reports....

    Did he keep the receipt?
    Ryan Jennings, a stonemason from North-West London, said: ‘You are looking at quite a lot. I would charge £30,000 for that. A limestone slab that big is expensive, and you’ve got a lot of work to do to it.

    ‘You’ve got to find a competent stone carver to get all the words done properly.

    ‘There are not a lot of good stonemasons around of that quality, and the best ones charge on a “sky’s the limit” basis.’



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3068029/Labour-wasted-tens-thousands-ridiculed-Milistone-Party-leader-defends-monument-plans-Cameron-vows-make-tombstone-Labour.html
    If Ed Balls paid for it - did the cheque bounce?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045

    RobD said:

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    Which one?
    This one

    http://bit.ly/1KJvQqN

    Obviously this is great news for the SNP and the cause of Scottish Independence
    It is Good For Yes.
  • Bond_James_BondBond_James_Bond Posts: 1,939
    AndyJS said:

    “Asked on BBC 5 live if carving them in stone made them more believable, Ms Powell said: “I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the fact that he’s carved them into stone means that he is absolutely not going to break them or anything like that.””

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32592235

    It's a misunderstanding. The stone is to upgrade the rather tatty worktop in Ed's second kitchen, which he has noticed is rather scruffy. It's only an area for preparing tea, coffee and snacks, but nothing's too good for the workers. After he went to all that trouble to dodge inheritance tax, so as to come by a £2.5 million mansion without ever having had a proper job, only somebody very mean would begrudge him a £30,000 worktop.
  • Beverley_CBeverley_C Posts: 6,256
    edited May 2015
    Ghedebrav said:


    Something else to pile on Lucy Powell then! Not her day.

    :)

    Oh dear.....


  • PolruanPolruan Posts: 2,083
    RodCrosby said:

    Lab majority 210 on BF...

    Leaving aside the obvious references to hell freezing over, what has to happen for Lab to hit the magic majority number? Assuming they retain 5 in Scotland and LD down to 20 (probably the best real world numbers they could hope for), what's the necessary swing from Tories in E&W to get there?
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067

    Plato said:

    It is - the official Election Game one.

    murali_s said:

    Plato said:

    electiongame.co.uk/uk15/

    murali_s said:

    Does anyone have links to the links to the two PB GE 2015 competitions?

    Thanks but not that one. I'm talking about the official PB ones...
    He means the one on a PB thread not so long ago, I think it was set up in NoJam by Mark Hopkins?
    The two competitions are here...


    February Entries

    April Entries
    Thanks!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @mattholehouse: Ed Miliband refuses to tell Guardian interviewer how many bathrooms he has http://t.co/GprhLsVgD7
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,978
    Polruan said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Lab majority 210 on BF...

    Leaving aside the obvious references to hell freezing over, what has to happen for Lab to hit the magic majority number? Assuming they retain 5 in Scotland and LD down to 20 (probably the best real world numbers they could hope for), what's the necessary swing from Tories in E&W to get there?
    1) The ICM poll in Sheffield Hallam which gives a boost to named candidates, possibly rendering Lord Ashcroft's polling moot

    2) Labour's tacit admission that they are going to lose the popular vote and finish behind in seats

    3) Sources close to Ed saying he will carry on as leader even if he doesn't become PM.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Anthony Wells retweeted
    Will Jennings ‏@drjennings 10m10 minutes ago
    The latest forecast from @pollingobs via @May2015NS | Con 274, Lab 272, LibDem 24, SNP 54, UKIP 2 http://may2015.com/ideas/separate-academic-forecast-tories-will-win-vote-by-2-3-points-but-miliband-most-likely-pm/
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,474
    One my longstanding PB friends and I have had a fun bet on the final seat totals. Just so that I cannot be accused of hindsighting I suppose I should put my guess up here.

    Con ............... 284
    Lab ............... 264
    SNP ................ 50
    LibDem ........... 25
    N.I. ................ 18 (all parties)
    UKIP ................ 3
    Greens ............. 2
    Others ............. 1
    Speaker ........... 1

    Total ............ 650

    His figures were remarkably similar, and no, we didn't confer.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    RobD said:

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    Which one?
    This one

    http://bit.ly/1KJvQqN

    Obviously this is great news for the SNP and the cause of Scottish Independence
    First mistake they've made.

    It gives credence to the bogus pseudo-false flag operation McTernan ran yesterday. It keeps it in the news an extra day (probably only the Scottish news, we'll see),

    Utter stupidity.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,657
    London Evening Standard - vote Tory on today's front page
  • AnorakAnorak Posts: 6,621
    edited May 2015
    I really like this picture on Angry Salmond.
    https://twitter.com/AngrySalmond/status/595369530785947648
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,983
    Moses

    "Here in St Ives Cornwall and David Cameron is shortly to arrive at the town Hall apparently..."

    Do they bus you in so it looks like there are lots of Tories with placards and rosettes who just happen to be loitering by the quayside?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Geoffrey from Rainbow is backing Vince

    http://on.ft.com/1EddkBH

    RAINBOW ALLIANCE
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,150
    Phone polls.... must have phone polls....

    (last one, fieldwork-wise, was ComRes on 30th April)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,233

    Anthony Wells retweeted
    Will Jennings ‏@drjennings 10m10 minutes ago
    The latest forecast from @pollingobs via @May2015NS | Con 274, Lab 272, LibDem 24, SNP 54, UKIP 2 http://may2015.com/ideas/separate-academic-forecast-tories-will-win-vote-by-2-3-points-but-miliband-most-likely-pm/

    I'll settle for that. Anything with Con + LD < 310 will make me smile.
  • Tissue_PriceTissue_Price Posts: 9,039
    Cameron favourite again.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Polruan said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Lab majority 210 on BF...

    Leaving aside the obvious references to hell freezing over, what has to happen for Lab to hit the magic majority number? Assuming they retain 5 in Scotland and LD down to 20 (probably the best real world numbers they could hope for), what's the necessary swing from Tories in E&W to get there?
    1) The ICM poll in Sheffield Hallam which gives a boost to named candidates, possibly rendering Lord Ashcroft's polling moot

    2) Labour's tacit admission that they are going to lose the popular vote and finish behind in seats

    3) Sources close to Ed saying he will carry on as leader even if he doesn't become PM.
    If the Liberals hopes and ambitions now rest entirely on a poll of 501 people in Sheffield Hallem, they do not have their troubles to seek.
  • ProdicusProdicus Posts: 658

    I see the SNP have suspended one of those oh so polite chaps from yesterday

    Can't have done. We have it on good authority *cough* he was nothing to do with the SNP.

  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,045
    Roger said:

    Moses

    "Here in St Ives Cornwall and David Cameron is shortly to arrive at the town Hall apparently..."

    Do they bus you in so it looks like there are lots of Tories with placards and rosettes who just happen to be loitering by the quayside?

    Shock! Horror! HOLD THE PRESSES!!!
  • DimitryDimitry Posts: 49
    It's just dawned on me why Ed's policy sheet of paper remained blank for so long. He just couldn't get to it under his policy paperweight ...
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,780

    Cameron favourite again.

    To be honest, thats bizarre...
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