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  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207

    Roger said:

    MikeK

    "This can't be shown enough!
    Where are the PB Labour supporters, when this and worse is happening? "

    Hi Mike. have you never been to an orthodox Jewish wedding or Barmitzva or even a synagogue or even a some Jewish schools? The Ultra orthodox even put a curtain between the sexes so they can't even see each other

    I'm amazed at the age of 80 that I'm teaching you something you didn't know

    This political event was a Jewish wedding? A Barmitzva? Who knew.

    I'll say it now before Ed's Islamophobia (Prevention) Act 2015 becomes law. It's a fucking disgrace to a modern society.
    On the other hand the entire room would have agreed with Farage's comment about breast feeding.
    :-)

    Funny old world as well as funny old election.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,523
    Mr. IOS, yes. We all know. We can read all the posts and respond/ignore as we like. We don't need a commentary.

    What's more tedious than posting tweets? Someone banging on about it.
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Morris

    I am going to start matching Scott tweet for tweet with Labour party press releases soon.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,523
    Mr. kle4, I still think the Conservatives will be ahead by a decent stretch, partly because I think the SNP will have a great night. If they 'only' win 40 odd seats, that makes things a lot easier for Labour.
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,349
    ukelect said:

    My latest UK-Elect forecast is here:

    May 3 UK-Elect forecast

    As usual it takes into account the latest constituency, regional and national polls and shows detailed top 3 forecasts for every UK constituency.

    Your forecast is almost identical to my own. Perhaps a similar methodology e.g. not including a last minute hidden swing to the Tories.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,098
    IOS said:

    Morris

    I am going to start matching Scott tweet for tweet with Labour party press releases soon.

    Probably more interesting, not to mention hilarious, than moaning about someone else!

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited May 2015
    IOS said:

    He's back

    How many tweets can he go at a minute now...

    IOS said:

    We're at two....

    IOS said:

    3

    We are at 3 tweets with noting to say in 2 minutes...

    So one ahead of you then.....

    EDIT - actually.....a draw....
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited May 2015
    IOS said:

    3

    You talking about the number of seats that Labour is going to win in Cornwall again?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,314

    Roger said:

    MM

    "This political event was a Jewish wedding? A Barmitzva? Who knew."

    Any political event at an orthodox place of worship or anywhere else for that matter would divide the sexes exactly as you see in those photos. I'm just surprised no one ever shows those. I wouldn't though I've been to several because I couldn't care less if this is how they want to organize themselves.

    You could not care less about segregation of women?
    Why hold a political rally in a place of worship anyway - or anywhere - where you allow the segregation of the sexes? It was politics being discussed not religion.
    I would love the media to go with this, but I can't see it happening outside the Daily Mail.
    Maybe Ed will make it Islamophobic to criticise segregation next month?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Where is Labour's Wimmin's Stone? Let's hope it's something sparkly...

    *innocent face*
  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207
    MikeK said:

    Another Slab, another face:

    @SuperOldHolborn: @ranty_man @flashboy @Holbornlolz Ed does it to himself really.. pic.twitter.com/wlAtZ8xksf”<< FANTASTIC

    — Ranty Man (@ranty_man) May 3, 2015

    Never mind the spoof pledges, cruel but apposite though they are...
    Being a fan of Stanley Kubrick films I never cease to be amazed at how prophetic and long lasting his cinematic imagery is.
    Here we see Miliband in front of the monolith which he hopes to brainwash his moneys with.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,440
    kle4 said:

    ukelect said:

    My latest UK-Elect forecast is here:

    May 3 UK-Elect forecast

    As usual it takes into account the latest constituency, regional and national polls and shows detailed top 3 forecasts for every UK constituency.

    Ooh, Con 271, Lab 272. An equal score would be the funnier result, although if it were Con 272, Lab 271, I wonder if Cameron would go ahead with his purported plan to declare victory.

    To my mind too many people are discounting the possibility of Lab most seats, even if it is not by much,
    I'm not discounting it but I'm not topping up on it - just FEELS like a loser. It may well still be value though.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @faisalislam: A poetic William Hague: "Sturgeon and the SNP will take their chisels to Miliband’s vanity stone and write their own demands" #masonry
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    It's ok, the Grauniad like it...

    @GdnPolitics: Ed Miliband's carved pledges could sink like a stone http://t.co/5QBuahTQgd
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 32,089

    MikeK said:

    Another Slab, another face:

    @SuperOldHolborn: @ranty_man @flashboy @Holbornlolz Ed does it to himself really.. pic.twitter.com/wlAtZ8xksf”<< FANTASTIC

    — Ranty Man (@ranty_man) May 3, 2015
    Never mind the spoof pledges, cruel but apposite though they are...
    Being a fan of Stanley Kubrick films I never cease to be amazed at how prophetic and long lasting his cinematic imagery is.
    Here we see Miliband in front of the monolith which he hopes to brainwash his moneys with.

    We may disagree on a lot of things Flightpath but that is a great line. :-)
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @MrHarryCole: Guardian: "Ed Miliband has just raised the stupidity bar still higher." http://t.co/rLuPKKPXjr
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,366
    edited May 2015
    God we really have got a bunch of tw@ts as leaders of the main political parties haven't we.

    Last week we had Cameorn telling us he will make a law to stop himself raising taxes and now Miliband with his giant carved commandments.

    Hislop on HIGNFY made a pertinent garb, like Brown used to us, I will make a law, problem solved. Child poverty, its now illegal because I say so, job done, next...
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    edited May 2015
    A quick hatrick from Scott

    4
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    edited May 2015
    5
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    edited May 2015
    6
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,349
    Anecdote alert: Sample of one.

    A good friend of mine, an arch-Tory, works in the NHS as a radiologist.

    She has just messaged me "Surprise surprise. I have decided to vote LibDem after all after what Nick Clegg said today about public service workers pay."

    I don't think she is joking. She will definitely be deciding based on what is in her own personal best interest. None of this visionary stuff about freedom and fairness. The message has connected with her. I am really surprised. I wonder what impact it will have on public service workers generally?
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Scott_P said:

    @MrHarryCole: Guardian: "Ed Miliband has just raised the stupidity bar still higher." http://t.co/rLuPKKPXjr

    Oh I dunno....I think they're sitting on the fence:

    There isn’t a single sentient being with connecting synapses anywhere in any planet in any universe who could think that was a good idea.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    Labour's Plan
    1 Unemployment shall be higher.
    2 There shall be no money left.
    3 We shall sow social division.
    4 We shall wage and lose illegal war.
    5 Vote Labour.
    6 NHS
    Ed Miliband MP.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    edited May 2015
    @Scott_P

    ' Carving stone monument for Downing Street garden looks like a Sheffield Rally moment. Once again, Ed Miliband's judgement not rock solid'

    Ed's tombstone must be the winner of the stupidest political stunt,it certainly beats brown's Elvis moment.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,440

    United Kingdom Trends · Change

    #EdStone
    #bbcsp
    #marr
    MK Dons
    #Murnaghan
    Aden
    #TechAMovie
    Moses
    David Coburn
    Carroll

  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I'd love to see pro #EdStone tweets - especially from LHQ!
    Mortimer said:

    IOS said:

    Morris

    I am going to start matching Scott tweet for tweet with Labour party press releases soon.

    Probably more interesting, not to mention hilarious, than moaning about someone else!

  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    IOS said:

    A quick hatrick from Scott

    4

    IOS said:

    5

    IOS said:

    6

    You don't think you might be a bit stalkerish??
  • MattWMattW Posts: 21,869

    EdStone - A commentator on Twitter:

    No 10 is Grade 1 listed. He'll need Tory Westminster planning permission for it. Good luck with that.

    And another:
    In Arial? Might as well do it in Comic Sans.

    If it is a permanent monument on wheels, he won't need planning permission...

  • DecrepitJohnLDecrepitJohnL Posts: 13,300
    Barnesian said:

    Anecdote alert: Sample of one.

    A good friend of mine, an arch-Tory, works in the NHS as a radiologist.

    She has just messaged me "Surprise surprise. I have decided to vote LibDem after all after what Nick Clegg said today about public service workers pay."

    I don't think she is joking. She will definitely be deciding based on what is in her own personal best interest. None of this visionary stuff about freedom and fairness. The message has connected with her. I am really surprised. I wonder what impact it will have on public service workers generally?

    In opposition, Conservative strategy was to "lovebomb" the public sector. In government, they gave way to the headbangers who really do believe their own propaganda about the public sector being stuffed to the gills with unreformed socialists who would never have voted Tory in the first place.
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @MikeK

    'Another Slab, another face:'

    Keep them coming, we can then have a PB vote for the funniest Ed tombstone.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 160
    The reasoning behind this stone demi-god will dominate Labour until election day.
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    MattW said:

    EdStone - A commentator on Twitter:

    No 10 is Grade 1 listed. He'll need Tory Westminster planning permission for it. Good luck with that.

    And another:
    In Arial? Might as well do it in Comic Sans.

    If it is a permanent monument on wheels, he won't need planning permission...

    Yes, but others are complaining that it isn't in Helvetica.....I mean, Arial? Really?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    Pulpstar said:

    kle4 said:

    ukelect said:

    My latest UK-Elect forecast is here:

    May 3 UK-Elect forecast

    As usual it takes into account the latest constituency, regional and national polls and shows detailed top 3 forecasts for every UK constituency.

    Ooh, Con 271, Lab 272. An equal score would be the funnier result, although if it were Con 272, Lab 271, I wonder if Cameron would go ahead with his purported plan to declare victory.

    To my mind too many people are discounting the possibility of Lab most seats, even if it is not by much,
    I'm not discounting it but I'm not topping up on it - just FEELS like a loser. It may well still be value though.
    It would be hilarious
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    No doubt if the LibDems decide to copy Ed's example, the Cleggstone would be a slab of granite inlaid with a whiteboard !!
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    IOS said:

    6

    Is this a count of your toys as they leave the pram?

    It is not ScottP's fault that ed is crap.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977
    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.
  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207

    MattW said:

    EdStone - A commentator on Twitter:

    No 10 is Grade 1 listed. He'll need Tory Westminster planning permission for it. Good luck with that.

    And another:
    In Arial? Might as well do it in Comic Sans.

    If it is a permanent monument on wheels, he won't need planning permission...

    Yes, but others are complaining that it isn't in Helvetica.....I mean, Arial? Really?
    It only confirms Ed is not the font of all knowledge...
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    My regular twitter feed - 139 new tweets

    #EdStone - 263.....
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098

    On the subject of going back to the seventies Mr. JimmyCzz upthread longs for an "Old Labour" government seemingly oblivious of the fact that the last government to do real austerity was in fact the last "Old Labour" government.

    How many on here are old enough to remember the CotE (Dennis Healey) turning round from Heathrow because the IMF were in town?

    There may be a reason older people are more Conservative, and not just age....
    Indeed Ms Vance. My father to his dying day never forgave Labour for cutting The Ration after the end of WW2. Labour's unique selling point so often comes down to how well they have managed to sell the myth that they protect the ordinary folk.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @john_self: When I see it, I think “Respect”. RT @SophyRidgeSky: Just asked Ed Miliband if the #edstone was a bit naff. “No”, he said.
  • ukelectukelect Posts: 140
    Barnesian said:

    ukelect said:

    My latest UK-Elect forecast is here:

    May 3 UK-Elect forecast

    As usual it takes into account the latest constituency, regional and national polls and shows detailed top 3 forecasts for every UK constituency.

    Your forecast is almost identical to my own. Perhaps a similar methodology e.g. not including a last minute hidden swing to the Tories.
    The methodology does include some allowance for swing back, but (unlike some other models) doesn't assume any significant swing back will take place on polling day itself.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 160
    edited May 2015
    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to be named today...
  • john_zimsjohn_zims Posts: 3,399
    @MpnikerDiCaneo

    1.More borrowing
    2.More unemployment
    3.Never enough of your money
    4.Immigration you ain't seen nothing yet
    5.Nicola Sturgeon gets a poodle
    6.Balls


  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,314
    Plato said:

    I'd love to see pro #EdStone tweets - especially from LHQ!

    Mortimer said:

    IOS said:

    Morris

    I am going to start matching Scott tweet for tweet with Labour party press releases soon.

    Probably more interesting, not to mention hilarious, than moaning about someone else!

    Plato, when even the New Statesman are mocking it I feel that the stone has become a parody of itself already. #EdStone is number 1 trend on UK Twitter right now and as many pictures are of parodies as of the actual pledges.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,366
    edited May 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @john_self: When I see it, I think “Respect”. RT @SophyRidgeSky: Just asked Ed Miliband if the #edstone was a bit naff. “No”, he said.

    I think if they really wanted to go the whole hog, they should strap the stone to the side of a white van, complete with Union Jacks flags, and drive it around council estates up and down the land....

    This decision makes the Pink Bus look sensible...and hiring the Elvis impersonator absolutely genius.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977
    edited May 2015
    Daniel said:

    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to named today...

    Is there a feminine form of Moses?

    Thank you so much for this Labour, I've not had enough chance to laugh at something in this campaign without needing to worry about the politics of it all (a lot of the humour will be partisan of course, but it's silly no matter the side).
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    Sophie Ridge tweets: Just asked Ed Miliband if the #edstone was a bit naff. "No", he said.
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,757
    #edstone just gets better and better
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,092
    Sunil Prasannan ‏@Sunil_P2 · 3m3 minutes ago
    ELBOW monthly #Labour leads split into Phone polls and Online polls. 2015 sees #Tory leads in the phone polls

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/594835246866157570
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977

    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
    Granted, but as someone pointed out below, they presumably focus tested the woolly sentiments expressed and think they'll work on someone. I still don't know what the NHS one is about though.
  • IOSIOS Posts: 1,450
    Sunil

    Does your elbow include the two You Gov polls from yesterday
  • calumcalum Posts: 3,046
    The Daily Telegraph finally have the silver bullet which is going to stop the SNP surge in its tracks. The Sun have uncovered that Nicola Sturgeon is a Berocca user:

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6439078/First-vitaminister.html

    The DT headline tomorrow will be "Nicola Sturgeon's Berocca shame". They will go on to explain how this legal high recreational vitamin drink is used in secret by thousands of addicts across the UK. They will then quote unnamed sources from Berocca Anonymous explaining how this terrible addiction turns people into honest politicians !!
  • SlackbladderSlackbladder Posts: 9,757
    Rumours of Cameron heading to a ironmongers for a cast iron guarantee are unfounded
  • glwglw Posts: 9,799

    Sophie Ridge tweets: Just asked Ed Miliband if the #edstone was a bit naff. "No", he said.

    Admittedly that question is very difficult to answer in a way that would be positive for Labour, but that doesn't change the fact that the man is a gigantic berk.
  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207

    MikeK said:

    Another Slab, another face:

    @SuperOldHolborn: @ranty_man @flashboy @Holbornlolz Ed does it to himself really.. pic.twitter.com/wlAtZ8xksf”<< FANTASTIC

    — Ranty Man (@ranty_man) May 3, 2015
    Never mind the spoof pledges, cruel but apposite though they are...
    Being a fan of Stanley Kubrick films I never cease to be amazed at how prophetic and long lasting his cinematic imagery is.
    Here we see Miliband in front of the monolith which he hopes to brainwash his moneys with.
    We may disagree on a lot of things Flightpath but that is a great line. :-)


    I'm grateful for your objectivity.
    On the same subject what I cannot believe is that some people think Miliband has had a good campaign. Can anyone really say that monolithic Ed has had a good campaign?
  • CD13CD13 Posts: 6,364
    PBers,

    Thanks for the laughs. I thought Cameron's legislating against himself was bad enough but the 'Eddystone' is priceless.

    'Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make very silly,' as Prometheus nearly said.

    By comparison, Gordon Brown stands as a colossus of rational thought.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I've just checked the Labour Press team feed - there's a single retweet of the monolith from Lucy Manning. Not another mention - at all. Funny that for such a PR hit
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977

    Rumours of Cameron heading to a ironmongers for a cast iron guarantee are unfounded

    Brilliant. If a story emerges that he really had ordered something like that, it just hasn't been shown yet, this whole thing would be perfect.

    MikeK said:

    Another Slab, another face:

    @SuperOldHolborn: @ranty_man @flashboy @Holbornlolz Ed does it to himself really.. pic.twitter.com/wlAtZ8xksf”<< FANTASTIC

    — Ranty Man (@ranty_man) May 3, 2015
    Never mind the spoof pledges, cruel but apposite though they are...
    Being a fan of Stanley Kubrick films I never cease to be amazed at how prophetic and long lasting his cinematic imagery is.
    Here we see Miliband in front of the monolith which he hopes to brainwash his moneys with.
    We may disagree on a lot of things Flightpath but that is a great line. :-)
    I'm grateful for your objectivity.
    On the same subject what I cannot believe is that some people think Miliband has had a good campaign. Can anyone really say that monolithic Ed has had a good campaign?
    Many people, thought not I, thought Ed was so bad he would crumble under the pressure and Labour would suffer in the polls due to his very crapness. That has not happened, and the lack of movement means Labour are still more likely to form a government. It's not the greatest of campaign summations, but 'haven't cocked it up' is decent enough when lots of people expected you to.
  • DanielDaniel Posts: 160
    Plato said:

    I've just checked the Labour Press team feed - there's a single retweet of the monolith from Lucy Manning. Not another mention - at all. Funny that for such a PR hit

    It's an absolute disaster.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    SeanT managed to buy one of the racist mugs (before they were changed)

    Can we all buy miniature replica EdStone's too?
  • YBarddCwscYBarddCwsc Posts: 7,172
    I am not a fan of politicians depositing engraved stones.

    Nonetheless, Salmond’s stone shows evidence of thought. There is connection between the text on the stone, the image on the stone and the political message conveyed. The script and the image have some beauty, and the stone is beautiful (although not to my taste).

    Ed’s stone is just ugly. The text is ugly. The typescript is ugly. The stone is ugly. The language is clunky pol-speak. It is like some monstrous piece of Soviet-style art.

    I would dearly like to know the name of the person who came up with this idea, and how much the Labour Party pays him or her.
  • John_MJohn_M Posts: 7,503
    Well, #Edstone at least takes my mind off the ghastly bank holiday weather. I'll own to be quaking in my boots at the thought of Ed and his unlovely minions attempting to run the country. But I guess it's what people want.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Yes, Ed, this was a brilliant idea...

    @CCHQPress: Don't let @Ed_Miliband & SNP carve the tombstone to Britain's economic recovery. #VoteConservative on 7 May #EdStone http://t.co/hAf6kCZmIM
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,366
    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    Daniel said:

    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to named today...

    Is there a feminine form of Moses?

    Thank you so much for this Labour, I've not had enough chance to laugh at something in this campaign without needing to worry about the politics of it all (a lot of the humour will be partisan of course, but it's silly no matter the side).
    Likewise. It's the first time in quite a depressing campaign, where I have genuinely laughed out loud - and laughed a lot. Not just sneered and grinned, or chortled contemptuously, or done a partisan chuckle - but laughed.

    The trouble is, I really am laughing AT Ed and the Labour buffoons who devised this. I suspect many others will, too, not just nasty rightwingers.

    Labour have spent weeks deconstructing the perceived image of Ed as a gigantic, flailing dork, and with some success. Now this. Will it impact? Probably not, but it ain't good to go into the final week of a tight election with EVERYONE sniggering at you. Even the Guardian.
    Getting much use out of the limited edition racist mug?

    Maybe Labour will start to produce mens and womens only mugs for those that attend events like the Hodge Hill rally.
  • Chris Deerin ‏@chrisdeerin 49 mins49 minutes ago
    'the heaviest suicide note in history' #EdStone
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,866
    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?
  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207
    CD13 said:

    PBers,

    Thanks for the laughs. I thought Cameron's legislating against himself was bad enough but the 'Eddystone' is priceless.

    'Whom the gods wish to destroy they first make very silly,' as Prometheus nearly said.

    By comparison, Gordon Brown stands as a colossus of rational thought.

    I'm not sure you are being very rational. You are being as silly as the BBC's Peston.
    The next move for taxes should be down not up. If we hit another economic crisis then we will not need tax rises we will need tax cuts if anything and extra cyclical spending. Thats what happens in a cyclical downturn - you run a deficit.
    What the 'tory-led' govt are doing is cutting non cyclical, structural, spending that we can never afford. It has been letting the 'regulators' of the economy do their normal cyclical job.
    People like Peston also forget we have interest rates at virtually zero. Any overheating in the economy will be met with rises in interest rates. But as it happens inflation is zero as well. But then Peston only works for the BBC and he is more interested in his hairstyle than any rational economics.

    There are limits to the amount of revenue you can raise by taxation anyway. You reach a point where it becomes counter productive.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977
    OT, and so juvenile, but looking at movies in the cinema at the moment I just cannot see the comedy 'Get Hard' without thinking of it going the Die Hard route.

    Get Hard 2: Get Harder
    Get Hard with a Vengeance
    Live free and Get Hard
    A good day to Get Hard.

    I kind of hate myself right now.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
    Granted, but as someone pointed out below, they presumably focus tested the woolly sentiments expressed and think they'll work on someone. I still don't know what the NHS one is about though.
    They are implicitly saying that the "NHS not caring" (e.g. Stafford) is all the Tories fault because the staff are run off their feet
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Is it a pron movie? :open_mouth:
    kle4 said:

    OT, and so juvenile, but looking at movies in the cinema at the moment I just cannot see the comedy 'Get Hard' without thinking of it going the Die Hard route.

    Get Hard 2: Get Harder
    Get Hard with a Vengeance
    Live free and Get Hard
    A good day to Get Hard.

    I kind of hate myself right now.

  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    Nope, no chance.

    This is way too funny, your post just shows how much it has hit a nerve.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Barnesian said:

    Anecdote alert: Sample of one.

    A good friend of mine, an arch-Tory, works in the NHS as a radiologist.

    She has just messaged me "Surprise surprise. I have decided to vote LibDem after all after what Nick Clegg said today about public service workers pay."

    I don't think she is joking. She will definitely be deciding based on what is in her own personal best interest. None of this visionary stuff about freedom and fairness. The message has connected with her. I am really surprised. I wonder what impact it will have on public service workers generally?

    Sounds good to me!

    I just hope that when Ed parts the seas that we do not break his pledge on immigration.
  • RazedabodeRazedabode Posts: 3,023

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    Not whilst Twitter gloriously photoshops the labour tombstone. This really was an own goal.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    edited May 2015
    calum said:

    The Daily Telegraph finally have the silver bullet which is going to stop the SNP surge in its tracks. The Sun have uncovered that Nicola Sturgeon is a Berocca user:

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6439078/First-vitaminister.html

    The DT headline tomorrow will be "Nicola Sturgeon's Berocca shame". They will go on to explain how this legal high recreational vitamin drink is used in secret by thousands of addicts across the UK. They will then quote unnamed sources from Berocca Anonymous explaining how this terrible addiction turns people into honest politicians !!

    A good friend of mine's father was CEO of the company that made Berocca. His father told him not to use it more than 3 times a week, because it's pretty hard on the liver...

    edit: anyway, why's she drinking a German owned vitamin?! Scandal! What's wrong with good old fashioned Irn Bru?
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
    Granted, but as someone pointed out below, they presumably focus tested the woolly sentiments expressed and think they'll work on someone. I still don't know what the NHS one is about though.
    They are implicitly saying that the "NHS not caring" (e.g. Stafford) is all the Tories fault because the staff are run off their feet
    THe conditions in the NHS is the fault of the Tories; everybody knows that !
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    You cannot blame your opponents for making fun of silly things Labour have said, any more than the Tories could blame Labour when they do something silly. Lamenting the lack of talk on policy would only be fair if both sides never seize on inconsequential stories and silly offhand comments and the like. Neither side does that, ergo neither can criticise the other about it.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    There is a tree called Economic Growth. One branch, which is quite full of fruits, is called NHS.
  • GrandioseGrandiose Posts: 2,323

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    Nope, no chance.

    This is way too funny, your post just shows how much it has hit a nerve.
    Labour could be asking Cameron about the cuts. Instead we're all talking about a large block of limestone.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 53,314
    Scott_P said:

    Yes, Ed, this was a brilliant idea...

    @CCHQPress: Don't let @Ed_Miliband & SNP carve the tombstone to Britain's economic recovery. #VoteConservative on 7 May #EdStone http://t.co/hAf6kCZmIM

    Memories of "Fire up the quattro" from 2010.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    Daniel said:

    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to named today...

    Is there a feminine form of Moses?

    Thank you so much for this Labour, I've not had enough chance to laugh at something in this campaign without needing to worry about the politics of it all (a lot of the humour will be partisan of course, but it's silly no matter the side).
    Likewise. It's the first time in quite a depressing campaign, where I have genuinely laughed out loud - and laughed a lot. Not just sneered and grinned, or chortled contemptuously, or done a partisan chuckle - but laughed.

    The trouble is, I really am laughing AT Ed and the Labour buffoons who devised this. I suspect many others will, too, not just nasty rightwingers.

    Labour have spent weeks deconstructing the perceived image of Ed as a gigantic, flailing dork, and with some success. Now this. Will it impact? Probably not, but it ain't good to go into the final week of a tight election with EVERYONE sniggering at you. Even the Guardian.
    120 hours and someone else will be laughing at you !
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977
    Grandiose said:

    Any chance of the Tories detailing their 12 billion of welfare cuts, rather than making crap stone jokes?

    Nope, no chance.

    This is way too funny, your post just shows how much it has hit a nerve.
    Labour could be asking Cameron about the cuts. Instead we're all talking about a large block of limestone.
    Indeed. Fortunately it's a Sunday. Good day to trial out these silly gimmicks perhaps, as even the silliest probably won't last beyond Monday.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,366
    Sandpit said:

    Scott_P said:

    Yes, Ed, this was a brilliant idea...

    @CCHQPress: Don't let @Ed_Miliband & SNP carve the tombstone to Britain's economic recovery. #VoteConservative on 7 May #EdStone http://t.co/hAf6kCZmIM

    Memories of "Fire up the quattro" from 2010.
    Arhhh yes, another Miliband Brain Trust promotion....

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01746/quattro_1746584c.jpg
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,977
    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    Daniel said:

    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to named today...

    Is there a feminine form of Moses?

    Thank you so much for this Labour, I've not had enough chance to laugh at something in this campaign without needing to worry about the politics of it all (a lot of the humour will be partisan of course, but it's silly no matter the side).
    Likewise. It's the first time in quite a depressing campaign, where I have genuinely laughed out loud - and laughed a lot. Not just sneered and grinned, or chortled contemptuously, or done a partisan chuckle - but laughed.

    The trouble is, I really am laughing AT Ed and the Labour buffoons who devised this. I suspect many others will, too, not just nasty rightwingers.

    Labour have spent weeks deconstructing the perceived image of Ed as a gigantic, flailing dork, and with some success. Now this. Will it impact? Probably not, but it ain't good to go into the final week of a tight election with EVERYONE sniggering at you. Even the Guardian.
    120 hours and someone else will be laughing at you !
    It's still funny even when Labour do win.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick 3m3 minutes ago
    .@edballsmp on @LiamByrneMP's letter saying "I'm afraid there is no money" - "a silly note...a very silly note to write" #tw2
    1:27 PM - 3 May 2015 · Details
  • Flightpath1Flightpath1 Posts: 207

    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
    kle4 is really confusing me know. He is talking about labour's slab pledges. Is this slab being pledged SLAB? Is it wise for labour to put its pledges on a SLAB? Has he asked Nicola's permission?

    It occurs to me that the only pledges I have seen are the photoshopped ones, not the real ones. So I guess its pretty dim of Labour to create an images that can be so easily misrepresented. Clever of Ed to go with it.

    It also just occurs to me that perhaps that is why we seem to see so few old style 'double whammy' posters in elections these days. The images are then immediately traduced.
    Perhaps they are saved up for the last day media splurge when it will be too late to bowdlerise them.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758
    surbiton said:

    Charles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    I predict we'll see the slab on a right wing front page, above a comment about Ed's arrogance, but with note or the main write up plastered over the pledges just in case someone might be 'taken in' by them.

    What pledges? Ungrammatical statements of unmeasurable intent do not amount to pledges. In this case they don't even amount to aspirations..
    Granted, but as someone pointed out below, they presumably focus tested the woolly sentiments expressed and think they'll work on someone. I still don't know what the NHS one is about though.
    They are implicitly saying that the "NHS not caring" (e.g. Stafford) is all the Tories fault because the staff are run off their feet
    THe conditions in the NHS is the fault of the Tories; everybody knows that !
    It's not fallen apart in the last 5 years, and the major problems come from the stupid PFI deals done under the last Labour government.
  • A great shame that they left off the #Edstone a pledge for an owl for everyone.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    Who has been (or is set to be by the end of the day) where today on labourdoorstep.....as it's the last Sunday, there'll be a Part II this evening

    Balls: Pudsey
    Reeves: Pudsey
    Harriet: Stevenage
    Khan along with BAME Labour: Harrow East, Ealing Central, Hampstead
    Twigg: Cannock Chase
    Perkins (Chesterfield): Stroud, Kingswood
    Abbott: Harrow East
    Lammy: Enfield Southgate
    Sheerman: Dewsbury
    Malthotra (Feltham): Ealing Central
    Heidi Alexander (Lewisham East): Gloucester
    John Cryer: Ilford North
    Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green): Hampstead


    Justine Miliband: Thurrock, Ilford North

    John McConnell: Cumbernauld & Co, Stirling, Fife (a few days ago they dragged out even Helen Liddell)

    John Middleton from Emmerdale: Pudsey

    General Secretary: Brentford
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    edited May 2015
    calum said:

    The Sun have uncovered that Nicola Sturgeon is a Berocca user:

    http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/ge2015/6439078/First-vitaminister.html

    That's not so much a profile as Hagiography....
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    A possible scenario:

    DC gets the numbers to get a C&S but not a majority. The first part of the Queen's Speech reads; "My government in this era when the UK regions are partially devolved, in the spirit of equality and fairness as mentioned in many of the parties' manifestos, will legislate for English Votes for English Laws to complete this devolution picture."

    How many English Labour MPs would vote down this QS and so report back to their constituents that they had voted down EVEL?

    BTW see in YG today, that Approval at -9 is the lowest since Dec 2010.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 21,866
    OK - three points before I disappear for a while.

    One - it looks like the LibDems will agree to a 2017 euro ref as part of a coalition deal with the Tories.

    Two - Tories won't rule out a rise in tuition fees, basically saying they plan to put them up.

    Three - Scottish leaders debate tonight is last chance for Nicola to mess things up, otherwise 50 plus seats in the bag.
  • AndrewAndrew Posts: 2,900
    Speaking of Liam Byrne's note, why didn't CCHQ keep hold of that and use it now? Almost perfect campaign material.

    Not much doubt the Tory campaign team is a bit asleep at the wheel.
  • murali_smurali_s Posts: 3,067
    kle4 said:

    surbiton said:

    SeanT said:

    kle4 said:

    Daniel said:

    Labour HQ praying for the new Princess to named today...

    Is there a feminine form of Moses?

    Thank you so much for this Labour, I've not had enough chance to laugh at something in this campaign without needing to worry about the politics of it all (a lot of the humour will be partisan of course, but it's silly no matter the side).
    Likewise. It's the first time in quite a depressing campaign, where I have genuinely laughed out loud - and laughed a lot. Not just sneered and grinned, or chortled contemptuously, or done a partisan chuckle - but laughed.

    The trouble is, I really am laughing AT Ed and the Labour buffoons who devised this. I suspect many others will, too, not just nasty rightwingers.

    Labour have spent weeks deconstructing the perceived image of Ed as a gigantic, flailing dork, and with some success. Now this. Will it impact? Probably not, but it ain't good to go into the final week of a tight election with EVERYONE sniggering at you. Even the Guardian.
    120 hours and someone else will be laughing at you !
    It's still funny even when Labour do win.
    It's a silly thing to do - no doubt. It's just some vague words on a stone - not very clever. And of course it keeps bots like Scott_P very busy.

    However, in the grand scheme of things it's unlikely to move any votes. The battle lines have long since been drawn and I have a feeling that the majority on here will be crying into their morning coffee come May 8th.


  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,366
    edited May 2015
    Andrew said:

    Speaking of Liam Byrne's note, why didn't CCHQ keep hold of that and use it now? Almost perfect campaign material.

    Not much doubt the Tory campaign team is a bit asleep at the wheel.

    Cameron has been using it from time to time, but like most of Tory campaign it has been totally unfocused (except the Labour / SNP bashing) and generally piss poor.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Imagine the guys called Ed Stone this weekend...
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Andrew said:

    Speaking of Liam Byrne's note, why didn't CCHQ keep hold of that and use it now? Almost perfect campaign material.

    Not much doubt the Tory campaign team is a bit asleep at the wheel.

    Is this sarcasm. Cameron's using it all the time - and quite rightly too.

    One thing I wonder is how come the LD's didn't keep hold of the note. It was addressed to the Chief Secretary, which is Danny Alexander of the LD's. Danny Alexander made fun of Labour at first about it, but now it seems to be Cameron's note during the election.
  • JPJ2JPJ2 Posts: 380
    At the very least one has to laugh out loud, perhaps even hysterically, at the idea that the replacement of 40 (out of kindness we can ignoring the battling ex-Major Joyce) Labour MPs in Scotland by 40 SNP MPs would result in MPs inferior to the massed current ranks of Labour chumps.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @politicshome: Ukip candidate Mark Reckless tells World This Weekend he thinks there will be a Conservative-Labour 'grand coalition' after the election
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