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  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    3-0 Wales in Tel Aviv they have played brilliantly

    Two for Bale one for Ramsey, an assist each, a great free kick for the second and a sublime move for the third
  • Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Opinium

    Approval ratings

    David Cameron has achieved a rare net positive approval rating with +1%.

    Ed Miliband has seen a slight increase to -21% but it is enough to take him above Nigel Farage for the first time who is unchanged on -24%.

    Nick Clegg remains in fourth place out of four with -40%

    http://ourinsight.opinium.co.uk/survey-results/political-polling-24th-march-2015

    Ed's approval ratings have definitely improved recently I'm thinking ?
    They have, from dire to just appalling.
    Aren't those ratings "Cameron's crutch" though :D ?
    The economy is Cameron's crutch. His leadership lead is merely the cherry on the parfait.
  • I don't think it's coincidental that David Cameron's ratings have gone positive following his honest answer to the question on his future. The Westminster Village were saying how dreadful it was but the voter likes honesty - a
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Ishmael_X said:

    Dair said:

    eek said:

    Is that a typical macho male response from you Plato? :)

    Plato said:

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    scotslass said:

    Greenwich Floater

    My English friends tell me that if the NATS stood down south they would vote for them in a second.

    I think its a very southern response. There are a fair few people I know who live on Tyneside and Wearside who, if they could vote SNP, would. Many are starting to feel very let down by Labour and don't have another left wing party to vote for,,
    Out of interest, is there any constitutional barrier to the SNP fielding candidates outside of Scotland?
    The SNP policy is not to stand outside Scotland. There is no other reason than the party chose not to.

    Personally I think this is a bit stupid.

    The policy should be not to stand in England, Wales or Northern Ireland which would allow them to put up a candidate in Berwick-Upon-Tweed which is in neither England nor Scotland.
    Its in England and has been since 1296 when you lot decided to side with the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys who were at war with us and sack Cumberland and our sovereign King and ancestor of HM Queen Elizabeth the Second in response incorporated Berwick into England by right of conquest.

    Something Salmond and co. might want to ponder in the future, if Scotland gets independence and think it might be funny to start ganging up against us with the French or EU.
    CESM as a sneer is surely past its sell-by date, given that what occasioned it was a principled refusal to participate in George and Tony's Excellent Brownie Shoot - how cowardly do the French look now? And it was always a bit rich coming from a nation of pusillanimous lard-mountains whose concept of warfare is to let the rest of the world do the heavy lifting and then come in and drop a few bombs on some yellow or brown people from a very, very safe height.

    Putting it another way, what was the USA's Austerlitz? Or a third way, Vietnam: that went well.
    Didn't someone say that the Septics only came into the two world wars as substitutes when the French had to leave the field injured?
    As a matter of interest, when was the last time the French won a major victory in the field? My guess is the Second battle of the Marne.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Eagles, cricket?

    Although that would be one more way for the Qatar nonsense to irritate football fans.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
  • Mr. Eagles, cricket?

    Although that would be one more way for the Qatar nonsense to irritate football fans.

    Yes, the cricket.

    We're all New Zealanders this weekend.
  • GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    The Opinium poll fieldwork carried out BEFORE Thursdays TV debate

    Does that mean Dave STILL cannot win? ;)
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    That will have to do because as I recall there's a specific ban on you using Jade Dernbach in a thread header.
  • GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
    *Innocent Face*
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    perdix said:

    Barnesian said:

    As a mere deliverer of leaflets, I would consider voting for any party that promised to ban all front doors that didn't have their letter box halfway up.

    ..and without stiff bristles or dogs behind them.
    And mandate that all houses have a their number (or at least their name) clearly displayed to make things easier when going round with addressed canvass sheets.

    Does chav equate to shell suit on benefits?
    They are inexpensive I suppose but only in relation to a packet of fags.
  • GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    That will have to do because as I recall there's a specific ban on you using Jade Dernbach in a thread header.
    I can use it, but Neil gets upset when we denigrate Jade.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
    If TSE really wanted to stir the pot he'd have used Gavin Hamilton - who was of course the One Test Useless Scot Failure (0/63 and 0 runs)
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Mortimer said:

    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    eek said:

    Is that a typical macho male response from you Plato? :)

    Plato said:

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    scotslass said:

    Greenwich Floater

    My English friends tell me that if the NATS stood down south they would vote for them in a second.

    I think its a very southern response. There are a fair few people I know who live on Tyneside and Wearside who, if they could vote SNP, would. Many are starting to feel very let down by Labour and don't have another left wing party to vote for,,
    Out of interest, is there any constitutional barrier to the SNP fielding candidates outside of Scotland?
    The SNP policy is not to stand outside Scotland. There is no other reason than the party chose not to.

    Personally I think this is a bit stupid.

    The policy should be not to stand in England, Wales or Northern Ireland which would allow them to put up a candidate in Berwick-Upon-Tweed which is in neither England nor Scotland.
    Its in England and has been since 1296 when you lot decided to side with the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys who were at war with us and sack Cumberland and our sovereign King and ancestor of HM Queen Elizabeth the Second in response incorporated Berwick into England by right of conquest.

    Something Salmond and co. might want to ponder in the future, if Scotland gets independence and think it might be funny to start ganging up against us with the French or EU.
    The legal position of Berwick at the time of the Union of the Crowns was unresolved. As such no attempt was made to resolve it before the Acts of Union. Anything that happened after that is potentially revoked de jure after the dissolution of the Acts of Union.

    The Wales and Berwick Act was in 1746.
    BuT has been English longer than the rule of law was accepted either side of the border. It is English. It will still be English a long time after Scotland has split from the Union, goes bankrupt, and comes crawling back.

    If you would like to be in the same jurisdiction as BuT, how about staying in the union?
    It was English for a period of 120 years and for the rest of its history has been Scottish or Disputed. As such it is quite likely that the only solution is for the people of Berwick to be given the option of leaving Scotland after a suitable stabilisation period, probably 10 years or so.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    GeoffM said:

    Personally, I think any independence treaty should involve Scotland accepting Northumberlands historic borders as part of England.

    It would certainly need to include accepting the current border incorporating Berwick into England (other than for football purposes)

    Footballing purposes? No! The negotiated border should be decided purely for political reasons.
    Move the nearby lefty and dirty areas into Scotland as they'll like the new magic money tree socialist regime.
    Tidier areas with sensible views can stay with the new baby-eating utopia down south.
    We shouldn't even insist on a single border. In our generosity I suggest England throws Bradford in with the deal. And Luton. All of Liverpool. And Somers Town in Portsmouth.
    We'll accept Berwick, Carlisle and an exclave in Corby. You can keep the rest.
  • GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
    If TSE really wanted to stir the pot he'd have used Gavin Hamilton - who was of course the One Test Useless Scot Failure (0/63 and 0 runs)
    Well, he was a Yorkshireman...
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091

    The Opinium poll fieldwork carried out BEFORE Thursdays TV debate

    Will tonight's YouGov fieldwork be after the debate?
  • valleyboyvalleyboy Posts: 606
    WALES
  • Danny565 said:

    The Opinium poll fieldwork carried out BEFORE Thursdays TV debate

    Will tonight's YouGov fieldwork be after the debate?
    Nope, some of it will have straddled it.
  • MortimerMortimer Posts: 14,142
    Dair said:

    Mortimer said:

    Dair said:

    Dair said:

    eek said:

    Is that a typical macho male response from you Plato? :)

    Plato said:

    LOLOLOLOLOL

    scotslass said:

    Greenwich Floater

    My English friends tell me that if the NATS stood down south they would vote for them in a second.

    I think its a very southern response. There are a fair few people I know who live on Tyneside and Wearside who, if they could vote SNP, would. Many are starting to feel very let down by Labour and don't have another left wing party to vote for,,
    Out of interest, is there any constitutional barrier to the SNP fielding candidates outside of Scotland?
    The SNP policy is not to stand outside Scotland. There is no other reason than the party chose not to.

    Personally I think this is a bit stupid.

    The policy should be not to stand in England, Wales or Northern Ireland which would allow them to put up a candidate in Berwick-Upon-Tweed which is in neither England nor Scotland.
    Its in England and has been since 1296 when you lot decided to side with the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys who were at war with us and sack Cumberland and our sovereign King and ancestor of HM Queen Elizabeth the Second in response incorporated Berwick into England by right of conquest.

    Something Salmond and co. might want to ponder in the future, if Scotland gets independence and think it might be funny to start ganging up against us with the French or EU.
    The legal position of Berwick at the time of the Union of the Crowns was unresolved. As such no attempt was made to resolve it before the Acts of Union. Anything that happened after that is potentially revoked de jure after the dissolution of the Acts of Union.

    The Wales and Berwick Act was in 1746.
    BuT has been English longer than the rule of law was accepted either side of the border. It is English. It will still be English a long time after Scotland has split from the Union, goes bankrupt, and comes crawling back.

    If you would like to be in the same jurisdiction as BuT, how about staying in the union?
    It was English for a period of 120 years and for the rest of its history has been Scottish or Disputed. As such it is quite likely that the only solution is for the people of Berwick to be given the option of leaving Scotland after a suitable stabilisation period, probably 10 years or so.
    Leaving Scotland? Leaving Scotland? It is currently part of England.

    Get used to it.


  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Barnesian said:

    As a mere deliverer of leaflets, I would consider voting for any party that promised to ban all front doors that didn't have their letter box halfway up.

    ..and without stiff bristles or dogs behind them.
    And a second spring loaded inner flap which works on the same principle as a sharks second row of teeth.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Boy, any especial reason for that particular exclamation? :p
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
    If TSE really wanted to stir the pot he'd have used Gavin Hamilton - who was of course the One Test Useless Scot Failure (0/63 and 0 runs)
    Well, he was a Yorkshireman...
    Really? Only in part time capacity mainly due to his West Lothian born crapness.
    In 2002 and 2003 combined he played just six first-team games for Yorkshire.
    That's only six more than I did, which puts us statistically level-pegging.
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    So you Gov can extrapolate what straddle it and make a good informed call ,assuming their sample was big enough.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Mr. Boy, any especial reason for that particular exclamation? :p

    The footy?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.
  • MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    GeoffM said:

    GeoffM said:

    Mr. Eagles, still not as bad as 5am.

    Nyooooooooom!

    Some of us are getting up at 4am to edit PB watch the World Cup Final.
    Any chance of you sneaking in a short thread on that whilst there's only die-hard cricket fans awake and at keyboards? *grin*
    A thread entitled is Ed Miliband the Mark Lathwell of the Labour Party?
    Somerset opener who wasn't up to test cricket?
    If TSE really wanted to stir the pot he'd have used Gavin Hamilton - who was of course the One Test Useless Scot Failure (0/63 and 0 runs)
    Well, he was a Yorkshireman...
    He was certainly a Yorkshireman when he was in South Africa.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    You working as usual next Friday then?
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    We White Van men and women appreciate our days off , Go for it Nige !!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    Barnesian said:

    As a mere deliverer of leaflets, I would consider voting for any party that promised to ban all front doors that didn't have their letter box halfway up.

    ..and without stiff bristles or dogs behind them.
    And a second spring loaded inner flap which works on the same principle as a sharks second row of teeth.
    Here here
  • Ishmael_X said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    You working as usual next Friday then?
    Nope, my two month sabbatical began yesterday.
  • FinancierFinancier Posts: 3,916
    edited March 2015
    The Opinium Poll splits out the result for each of the GB countries (but small samples for Wales & Scotland)and only those with a VI.

    England:
    Cons: 35.5; LAB: 33.9; LD: 9; UKIP: 13.5; Green 7.4
    Scotland:
    Cons: 19.1; LAB: 26.2; LD: 3.2; UKIP: 7.1; SNP: 37.3
    Wales:
    Cons: 33.8; LAB: 39.4; LD: 2.8; UKIP: 14.1; PC: 5.6; Green: 4.2
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    edited March 2015
    I bet the CBI starts claiming the St George's holiday thing is "anti-business".
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    edited March 2015
    Opinium (definitely vote) - 67.8% of the sample

    Con 36 Lab 31.8
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Mortimer said:


    Leaving Scotland? Leaving Scotland? It is currently part of England.

    Get used to it.

    As stated it's status is currently Disputed as it was not resolved before the Acts of Union which will be voided by a Scottish Yes vote. Berwick is Scottish. it will remain Scottish, I have little doubt, but as I said you'd be given a reasonable period to stabilise the plummeting rUK economy before a binding vote. That way you might have a slight chance.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,646
    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Which one is he getting rid of? Or are we going to get a new bank holiday promised to us every election?
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    I thought the consensus was that George almost certainly did not exist?
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,646
    Danny565 said:

    I bet the CBI starts claiming the St George's holiday thing is "anti-business".

    I'm assuming you'd agree that 365 days of holiday a year would be bad for business.

    Therefore the only question is when it becomes bad.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Danny565 said:

    I bet the CBI starts claiming the St George's holiday thing is "anti-business".

    Merely raising the question will turn out to be anti-business, because Business Hates Uncertainty!
  • GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    Are you saying Bradford should be a role model for the rest of England?
  • Dair said:

    Mortimer said:


    Leaving Scotland? Leaving Scotland? It is currently part of England.

    Get used to it.

    As stated it's status is currently Disputed as it was not resolved before the Acts of Union which will be voided by a Scottish Yes vote. Berwick is Scottish. it will remain Scottish, I have little doubt, but as I said you'd be given a reasonable period to stabilise the plummeting rUK economy before a binding vote. That way you might have a slight chance.
    Berwick is not Scottish - I was bought up there and in my time living in Berwick residents prided themselves in being in England
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,913
    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    I can't tell if TSE is missing a point here, or making one.
  • Financier said:

    The Opinium Poll splits out the result for each of the GB countries (but small samples for Wales & Scotland)and only those with a VI........
    Wales:
    Cons: 33.8; LAB: 39.4; LD: 2.8; UKIP: 14.1; PC: 5.6; Green: 4.2

    If it were true, a surge by Plaid would make life difficult for Welsh Labour.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,913
    Dair said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    I thought the consensus was that George almost certainly did not exist?
    Must have done, otherwise where's the dragon!?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135
    MikeL said:

    @OpiniumResearch: Opinium/Observer :: Closer-than-close :: Con 34% (-2), Lab 33% (n/c), LibDem 8% (+1), UKIP 13% (-1), Greens 7% (+1) http://t.co/Yh8qA2a6la

    Good poll for Con. Last week's Opinium was out of step. Any poll lead now good for Con.
    Must be an outlier :)
  • Ishmael_X said:

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    I can't tell if TSE is missing a point here, or making one.
    It was more a joke at MikeK's expense, he's advocating a national holiday for a chap born in modern Syria/Palestine.

    Irony meters everywhere explode.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    SeanT said:

    Roger said:
    Well, apart from the million people who signed a petition demanding his return (the biggest petition in recent British history) or the 350 million viewers of Top Gear (making it the most watched factual TV programme in the world).

    Yes, apart from them, "not many seem to have any time for Clarkson anymore".

    Do you actively strive to appear stupid, or are you just, you know, really quite stupid?
    The 'not many' relates to the author of the article, Tim Stanley. He seems pretty much out on his own if the comments are any guide.
    Wkki reports that his manifesto for the Cambridge University Welfare Officer was hand written as follows, 'This is hand written because I was too drunk to write a manifesto. There is no better testament to my character"
    Seems pretty clarksonesque to me. It seems his main objection is to old people being pillocks, the young can have open season, as he continues to prove.
    Judging from his style he needs to move over completely to The Spectator.
  • peter_from_putneypeter_from_putney Posts: 6,956
    edited March 2015

    MikeL said:

    @OpiniumResearch: Opinium/Observer :: Closer-than-close :: Con 34% (-2), Lab 33% (n/c), LibDem 8% (+1), UKIP 13% (-1), Greens 7% (+1) http://t.co/Yh8qA2a6la

    Good poll for Con. Last week's Opinium was out of step. Any poll lead now good for Con.
    Must be an outlier :)
    But there again, it may not be!
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Omnium said:

    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!

    The idea that a couple of extra bank holidays a year costs the economy is as farcical as those "reports" which claim Sickies cost £xbn per year - utterly fallacious economic illiteracy based on assumptive nonsense.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    Dair said:

    Mortimer said:


    Leaving Scotland? Leaving Scotland? It is currently part of England.

    Get used to it.

    As stated it's status is currently Disputed as it was not resolved before the Acts of Union which will be voided by a Scottish Yes vote. Berwick is Scottish. it will remain Scottish, I have little doubt, but as I said you'd be given a reasonable period to stabilise the plummeting rUK economy before a binding vote. That way you might have a slight chance.
    Berwick is not Scottish - I was bought up there and in my time living in Berwick residents prided themselves in being in England
    I'm sure even the Israeli-Settler types will be persuaded by the harsh realities of a post independence rUK.
  • chestnut said:

    Opinium (definitely vote) - 67.8% of the sample

    Con 36 Lab 31.8

    Quite close to the actual GE result in 2010, leaving aside of course the disaster which awaits Labour in Scotland.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    edited March 2015

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    Are you saying Bradford should be a role model for the rest of England?
    You mean a city with a prima donna left wing scots MP lording it over everyone else ?
    I think we all get that model from May.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,913
    Dair said:

    Omnium said:

    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!

    The idea that a couple of extra bank holidays a year costs the economy is as farcical as those "reports" which claim Sickies cost £xbn per year - utterly fallacious economic illiteracy based on assumptive nonsense.
    We know that 365 bank holidays would be damaging, yes? We suspect that a single bank holiday isn't, and in fact is probably beneficial. If it isn't beneficial then we've proven they are damaging. If it is then it's certain that there is a point somewhere between 1 and 365 where the gains turn to losses. So it may turn out to be economic illiteracy to suggest that the change from 7 to 8 is the critical point, or it may not. I presume you have compelling evidence that it's not the case, and that the turning point is some higher figure. Either that or you're being rude I guess.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,135
    Opinium barely changes the "both Tory/Lab lead by 0.0%" state of play in ELBOW!
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    edited March 2015
    Edit: misread something
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Omnium said:

    Dair said:

    Omnium said:

    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!

    The idea that a couple of extra bank holidays a year costs the economy is as farcical as those "reports" which claim Sickies cost £xbn per year - utterly fallacious economic illiteracy based on assumptive nonsense.
    We know that 365 bank holidays would be damaging, yes? We suspect that a single bank holiday isn't, and in fact is probably beneficial. If it isn't beneficial then we've proven they are damaging. If it is then it's certain that there is a point somewhere between 1 and 365 where the gains turn to losses. So it may turn out to be economic illiteracy to suggest that the change from 7 to 8 is the critical point, or it may not. I presume you have compelling evidence that it's not the case, and that the turning point is some higher figure. Either that or you're being rude I guess.
    Maybe we could design a trial (by County) - 1 County has no bank holidays, one has one, one has two etc and find out which GDP by county improves the most/ least.

    I vote that my County has 56 bank holidays.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,485
    Aimless Anecdote Alert:

    I was in St Neots town centre this morning, and the Labour candidate was drumming up support outside the Co-op. I rejected the request to talk as I do not live in the constituency (Huntingdon), but I did hang around for a few minutes to listen in (yes, I know, naughty).

    Of about five people who expressed an opinion, three said they were voting UKIP. As I walked away, I overheard one man say to his wife that he had taken joy in telling the candidate of his choice.

    Jonathan Djanogly has nearly 50% of the vote and I cannot see him losing this year, but it will be interesting to see how the race for second goes, and whether UKIP can beat both the Lib Dems and Labour in this seat.

    (And yes, I know it is a stretch to judge support from fleeting anecdata with such a small sample size, but I did find it - and the glee - surprising).
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    Ishmael_X said:

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    I can't tell if TSE is missing a point here, or making one.
    It was more a joke at MikeK's expense, he's advocating a national holiday for a chap born in modern Syria/Palestine.

    Irony meters everywhere explode.
    Have you ever come across Christmas ; chap from Palestine ; very popular in these parts.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    chestnut said:

    Opinium (definitely vote) - 67.8% of the sample

    Con 36 Lab 31.8

    Only one poll etc etc - but in itself very encouraging for Con.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,972
    edited March 2015

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    Are you saying Bradford should be a role model for the rest of England?
    You mean a city with a prima donna left wing scots MP lording it over everyone else ?
    I think we all get that model from May.
    Vote Tory to stop such a situation happening.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Omnium said:

    Dair said:

    Omnium said:

    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!

    The idea that a couple of extra bank holidays a year costs the economy is as farcical as those "reports" which claim Sickies cost £xbn per year - utterly fallacious economic illiteracy based on assumptive nonsense.
    We know that 365 bank holidays would be damaging, yes? We suspect that a single bank holiday isn't, and in fact is probably beneficial. If it isn't beneficial then we've proven they are damaging. If it is then it's certain that there is a point somewhere between 1 and 365 where the gains turn to losses. So it may turn out to be economic illiteracy to suggest that the change from 7 to 8 is the critical point, or it may not. I presume you have compelling evidence that it's not the case, and that the turning point is some higher figure. Either that or you're being rude I guess.
    I am no so keen on saints days and related Popery.

    Apart from anything else the English would have too many spring holidays, the Welsh and Scots would have a day off in Mid winter.

    Better to have Trafalgar day off, and celebrate the defeat of the Franco Spanish fleet.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Ishmael_X said:

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    I can't tell if TSE is missing a point here, or making one.
    It was more a joke at MikeK's expense, he's advocating a national holiday for a chap born in modern Syria/Palestine.

    Irony meters everywhere explode.
    Just looked this up - do you really only get 8 bank holidays in the UK this year?

    www.gov.uk/bank-holidays

    In Gib we get Commonwealth Day and Queen's Birthday as bank holidays plus National Day on 10th September and a few others which don't overlap with the UK

    www.visitgibraltar.gi/public-holidays

    Twelve! And we get hot sunny days for ours too!
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516

    GeoffM said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Why should we the English have a day celebrating a chap born in the Middle East, who never stepped foot in England? Madness
    Well, half of Bradford shuts down for a month every year based on an individual fitting that description.
    Are you saying Bradford should be a role model for the rest of England?
    You mean a city with a prima donna left wing scots MP lording it over everyone else ?
    I think we all get that model from May.
    Vote Tory to stop such a situation happening.
    Why would I vote for bankers in the south of England ? I live in the Midlands.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,387
    Looks like crossover has been achieved with Opinium then!
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,485
    rcs1000 said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Which one is he getting rid of? Or are we going to get a new bank holiday promised to us every election?
    Since the left have appropriated 'May Day' as the International Workers' Day, why not rename the Spring bank holiday later in the month to something more appropriate?

    But forget St George: everyone knows what it should be. Yes, I cannot wait to unfurl my Union Jack for the most meaningful of bank holidays:

    Thatcher Day!
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    An aside: the next royal birth is expected on 25 April.

    That was the birthday of Edward II and Sir Roger Mortimer [who deposed and may have killed that monarch, and ruled England for about four years]. It's meant to be a day of ill omen, or was in the 14th century.

    [Just begun Ian Mortimer's biography of Sir Roger].
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    An aside: the next royal birth is expected on 25 April.

    That was the birthday of Edward II and Sir Roger Mortimer [who deposed and may have killed that monarch, and ruled England for about four years]. It's meant to be a day of ill omen, or was in the 14th century.

    [Just begun Ian Mortimer's biography of Sir Roger].

    Oliver Cromwell's birthday too! A good day for regicides.
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108
    Omnium said:

    Dair said:

    Omnium said:

    I think Farage's St George's Day policy is quite fun. He certainly could deliver it if he was PM. Most people wouldn't mind an extra day off. Of course if he seriously though he would be able to deliver it he'd probably not suggest it as it would damage the economy a little.

    I don't mind at all if he gets 2 or 3 extra votes for the gall of the thing. Hope he doesn't get an extra 2 or 3 percent though!

    The idea that a couple of extra bank holidays a year costs the economy is as farcical as those "reports" which claim Sickies cost £xbn per year - utterly fallacious economic illiteracy based on assumptive nonsense.
    We know that 365 bank holidays would be damaging, yes? We suspect that a single bank holiday isn't, and in fact is probably beneficial. If it isn't beneficial then we've proven they are damaging. If it is then it's certain that there is a point somewhere between 1 and 365 where the gains turn to losses. So it may turn out to be economic illiteracy to suggest that the change from 7 to 8 is the critical point, or it may not. I presume you have compelling evidence that it's not the case, and that the turning point is some higher figure. Either that or you're being rude I guess.
    We know the inverse relationship between hours worked and productivity and it appears that no country is close to the level where productivity falls. So it is fairly easy to see that we could go beyond the French level and still benefit.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Foxinsox, I did not know that.

    There's some doubt over whether Edward II was actually killed, though. Ian Mortimer reckons he escaped alive, and died some years later.
  • I assume one of the challengers will turn up with Labour's immigration mug next week as a prop ... that should be a hoot.
  • steve_garnersteve_garner Posts: 1,019
    Opinium's certain to vote figures look worrying for Labour. One wonders just how much of their polling number is underpinned by the not registered to vote or can't be arsed brigade.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Mr. Scrapheap, Labour's immigration mug? I thought Phil Woolas had left politics.*

    *Yes, bit obvious. But I'm trying to get some work done :p
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    GIN1138 said:

    Looks like crossover has been achieved with Opinium then!

    You may have a point. The last but one had it 33 Con 35 Lab. Then a big jump up for Con and Lab decline. Now we see Lab the same but even though Con have gone down they still have a lead. The trend is a move to Con and a decline of Lab.
    Or is it all just noise?
    The other trend is a steady decline of UKIP. However, Con and UKIP down and Lab steady, but Green and UKIP up seems a bit odd. Having hammered the semi colon into submission are we under attack from the decimal point?
  • Mr. Scrapheap, Labour's immigration mug? I thought Phil Woolas had left politics.*

    *Yes, bit obvious. But I'm trying to get some work done :p

    Harry Cole‏@MrHarryCole·9m9 minutes ago
    Stay classy, you mugs. pic.twitter.com/w3HpYTxSJe
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    Opinium's certain to vote figures look worrying for Labour. One wonders just how much of their polling number is underpinned by the not registered to vote or can't be arsed brigade.

    Just did leafletting in London.The number of households not registered to vote is rather shocking.
  • GIN1138 said:

    Looks like crossover has been achieved with Opinium then!

    Possibly, but let's await tonight's YouGov poll for the Sunday Times. If the Blue Team lead in that too, I think even OGH would have to concede (in a very muted way of course) that the Tories are now ahead.
  • AndreaParma_82AndreaParma_82 Posts: 4,714
    If you missed the saga, in today episode, Geoffrey Robinson has announced he will stand again afterall. Possibly to avoid the risk of being lynched by the CLP.

    Sights from labourdoorstep today

    Tessa toured Ealing Central, Hammersmith and Brentford.

    EdB was in his constituency
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBMHoetXEAA22I4.jpg:large

    Lucy Powell was in Withington
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBM5Wv7WEAAcwUG.jpg

    Chuka did some selfies on Streatham doorstep and then went to Hove
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBLz_R_WgAA81gX.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBMXlUNW4AE7rJL.jpg:large

    Creagh was in Calder Valley

    Dugher was in Bedford

    Stella Creasy and Twigg did Rossendale, Pendle and Burnley

    Liz Kendall was in Loughborough

    Reeves has been in Croydon Central
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBLuWZvWcAAd9Mp.jpg:large

    Maria Eagle visited Weaver Vale

    Gloria showcased her bag in her constituency
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CBLwuRFUUAAwCVj.jpg:large

    Flint was in Keighley

    Tom Watson was in Bradford West
  • DairDair Posts: 6,108

    rcs1000 said:

    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Which one is he getting rid of? Or are we going to get a new bank holiday promised to us every election?
    Since the left have appropriated 'May Day' as the International Workers' Day, why not rename the Spring bank holiday later in the month to something more appropriate?

    But forget St George: everyone knows what it should be. Yes, I cannot wait to unfurl my Union Jack for the most meaningful of bank holidays:

    Thatcher Day!
    The end of May Holiday used to be called Empire Day so it did once have a name.

    My mother always used to tell me the end of May holiday was "Scottish May Day" but I've never found any source for this. Then again she tells me she voted Yes but I'm pretty certain she voted No with my Quisling father.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Dr. Parma, he does seem a bit hokey-cokey.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Dair said:


    My mother always used to tell me the end of May holiday was "Scottish May Day" but I've never found any source for this. Then again she tells me she voted Yes but I'm pretty certain she voted No with my Quisling father.

    They must be proud of you ;)
  • Paul_Mid_BedsPaul_Mid_Beds Posts: 1,409
    SMukesh said:

    Opinium's certain to vote figures look worrying for Labour. One wonders just how much of their polling number is underpinned by the not registered to vote or can't be arsed brigade.

    Just did leafletting in London.The number of households not registered to vote is rather shocking.
    As I suspected, differential voting turnouts will affect the result in this election. Suspect most of these would have voted Labour if they could have been bothered to register.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,961
    Tories hold their lead with Opinium and SNP down to 37% in Scotland their lowest total for months, albeit still clearly ahead
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Are you actually registered though?
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    MikeK said:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/566852/Nigel-Farage-Ukip-St-George-s-Day

    WORKERS in England and Wales would get an extra bank holiday to celebrate their national saints’ days, under an election pledge unveiled today by Nigel Farage.

    Great. I get to pay people for a day off when tons of customers are working (on effectively a Winter's day March 1st - so not even a tourist boost) and then have another day where loads of customers are closed and we're twiddling our thumbs. Still that would give us time to work out our buggered up transport schedules.

    Any other numpty ideas due?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    chestnut said:

    Opinium (definitely vote) - 67.8% of the sample

    Con 36 Lab 31.8

    Indeed. Eds dire ratings must make softening of his vote a possibility.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Pong said:

    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Are you actually registered though?
    When is closing date for registration?
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited March 2015
    Good to see the next batch of Tory MPs are not part of the metropolitan elite.

    http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator-life/spectator-life-life/9477592/meet-daves-secret-a-list/

    No parachuting/jobs for the boys goings on here. Lots of strong local candidates who have put in the work for many years with their respective associations and have reaped the rewards. O wait....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Pong said:

    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Are you actually registered though?
    Yep
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    Pong said:

    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Are you actually registered though?
    When is closing date for registration?
    20 April
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    @ShippersUnbound: Sunday Times has a YouGov poll tonight with data collected AFTER Thursday's Paxo primary
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Annoyingly 2 of my children who are Labour voters will not register as they apparently think they dont understand what they all stand for. Of the 2 who are registered one is more committed to Lab than me the other changes his mind every week between Lab and UKIP.

    Net result Lab 2 down in my family (maybe 3)

    If this is typical of the UK as a whole EMWNBPM
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Annoyingly 2 of my children who are Labour voters will not register as they apparently think they dont understand what they all stand for. Of the 2 who are registered one is more committed to Lab than me the other changes his mind every week between Lab and UKIP.

    Net result Lab 2 down in my family (maybe 3)

    If this is typical of the UK as a whole EMWNBPM
    Hopefully you've told them they can register, but don't actually have to vote? That way if they change their mind in the two weeks after registering, they can vote.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    RobD said:

    Voter registration is super easy. Took me under 5 minutes to do online.

    Annoyingly 2 of my children who are Labour voters will not register as they apparently think they dont understand what they all stand for. Of the 2 who are registered one is more committed to Lab than me the other changes his mind every week between Lab and UKIP.

    Net result Lab 2 down in my family (maybe 3)

    If this is typical of the UK as a whole EMWNBPM
    Sounds like they aren't Labour voters.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,378

    Dair said:

    Mortimer said:


    Leaving Scotland? Leaving Scotland? It is currently part of England.

    Get used to it.

    As stated it's status is currently Disputed as it was not resolved before the Acts of Union which will be voided by a Scottish Yes vote. Berwick is Scottish. it will remain Scottish, I have little doubt, but as I said you'd be given a reasonable period to stabilise the plummeting rUK economy before a binding vote. That way you might have a slight chance.
    Berwick is not Scottish - I was bought up there and in my time living in Berwick residents prided themselves in being in England
    Not nearly so much now, it would seem. They are really unhappy with the loss of the town's status and subsumption into Northumberland. I was, all the same, mildly surprised that a voodoo poll had such a strong vote for returning to Scottish control.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8640148.stm

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