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  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Meanwhile, the ferrets in a rather small sack get under way:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/tim-farron-vince-cable

    These Conservative errors have kept your Chris and the Lib Dems out of the BBC headlines.

    (The BBC dominates 60%+ of the broadcasting media)
    My Chris? Come again?
    Chris Leslie apparently selling space in the manifesto to hedge fund donors.

    Or something like that ;)

    [Dispatches last night]
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    Scott_P said:

    @ToryTreasury: Inflation is 0.0%. @Ed_Miliband 's cost of living campaign has, literally, come to nought

    So George takes the credit for Aldi and an oil glut. Oh well.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    JackW said:

    NZ require 29 off 3 overs to beat SA and reach the cricket world cup final - great match.

    Those with a wad on NZ to win the trophy have run out of fingernails :(


  • TGOHF said:

    JackW said:

    NZ require 29 off 3 overs to beat SA and reach the cricket world cup final - great match.

    Those with a wad on NZ to win the trophy have run out of fingernails :(


    Tell me about it. When the South African chap messed up the run out earlier, I thought, the chokers are back.

    You just know this is going to end in a tie, and the Saffers are out.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    The main effect is another 3 days lost talking about BS when it could be better spent on Con`s campaign priorities.

    ROFL yes because labour's campaign priorities are going so well.

    How many gains in Scotland do you see ?
    Labour`s campaign is focussing on their priorities-NHS and others.

    Con`s campaign so far has been to defend Cameron from his cowardice about the debates and now his stupidity of talking about successors before an election campaign.
    So what you mean is that Labour are working their asses off selling their main message, while Cameron and crowd sit around chillaxing and batting aside the odd bit of nonsense about the debates (while getting exactly the debates they want)

    ... and you are still tied in the polls ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,137

    Meanwhile, the ferrets in a rather small sack get under way:

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/emilyashton/tim-farron-vince-cable

    Shouldn't that be ferrets in the back of a mini?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    antifrank said:

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    Stoking inflation would have been a good thing. It would have been a way of distributing some of the pain more evenly between age groups, given all the pampering pensioners have had.
    Most ungeneorus antifrank. Who has been pampered more than gay, metroplitan high rate tax payers - and they won't even vote for him.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    TGOHF said:

    JackW said:

    NZ require 29 off 3 overs to beat SA and reach the cricket world cup final - great match.

    Those with a wad on NZ to win the trophy have run out of fingernails :(


    Borrow some of Peter the Punter's falsies. :smile:

  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    The main effect is another 3 days lost talking about BS when it could be better spent on Con`s campaign priorities.

    ROFL yes because labour's campaign priorities are going so well.

    How many gains in Scotland do you see ?
    Labour`s campaign is focussing on their priorities-NHS and others.

    Con`s campaign so far has been to defend Cameron from his cowardice about the debates and now his stupidity of talking about successors before an election campaign.
    In your world.

    meanwhile elsewhere......
    Ok.I bet in your world,swingback is happening and Con has increased it`s lead to 7 points over the last 3 weeks...

    Meanwhile...
    No in my world it will be a hung Parlt, cons most votes most seats. labouites won't be arsed to turn out for Ed.
    .

    Sunil`s ELBOW will show a Lab lead today.Con most votes,most seats is based on swingback happening.Over the last 3 weeks what`s happened is the reverse.

    I welcome you to the real world mate.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    rottenborough,

    You could make this argument for any conflict of interest for someone in a skilled profession. The question is not whether she is capable. The question is whether she will be interviewing the economics spokesman for different parties fairly, given that she has a romantic history with one of them. At a minimum, the public have a right to know whether there is an existing personal relationship there. The Daily Mail article that was linked to also mentioned she was a tutorial partner with Yvette Cooper, so that is three major Labour figures she had a conflict of interest with.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    TGOHF said:

    JackW said:

    NZ require 29 off 3 overs to beat SA and reach the cricket world cup final - great match.

    Those with a wad on NZ to win the trophy have run out of fingernails :(


    Tell me about it. When the South African chap messed up the run out earlier, I thought, the chokers are back.

    You just know this is going to end in a tie, and the Saffers are out.
    That will do for me :D
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,137
    Pulpstar said:

    Morning news was all Dave, Dave , Dave and then some Argy bargy near the Falklands ! Tory heaven !

    Definitely better for Dave than the Dudley North stuff that was running last evening.

    I have to say, I did wonder the same thing. But Cam was interviewed at the weekend, over sunday lunch I believe, so would he have known about the Dudley disaster at that point?
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Now NZ require 23 from 2 overs.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    edited March 2015
    TGOHF said:

    Inflation = 0.0%

    Balls and Miliband as sons of Gordon should condemn this 0 % increase in the cost of living.
  • JackW said:

    Now NZ require 23 from 2 overs.

    They only need 22 from 2 to qualify for the final.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,516
    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    The main effect is another 3 days lost talking about BS when it could be better spent on Con`s campaign priorities.

    ROFL yes because labour's campaign priorities are going so well.

    How many gains in Scotland do you see ?
    Labour`s campaign is focussing on their priorities-NHS and others.

    Con`s campaign so far has been to defend Cameron from his cowardice about the debates and now his stupidity of talking about successors before an election campaign.
    In your world.

    meanwhile elsewhere......
    Ok.I bet in your world,swingback is happening and Con has increased it`s lead to 7 points over the last 3 weeks...

    Meanwhile...
    No in my world it will be a hung Parlt, cons most votes most seats. labouites won't be arsed to turn out for Ed.
    .

    Sunil`s ELBOW will show a Lab lead today.Con most votes,most seats is based on swingback happening.Over the last 3 weeks what`s happened is the reverse.

    I welcome you to the real world mate.
    well we'll see, I've been on con most votes most seats for ther last 2 years. Ed just doesn't reach the parts other politicans can reach.

    The only issue is does Dc get enough seats to go in to coalition 2.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Struggled to get the rank full toss away !

    I reckon the Saffers will hold out.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    JackW said:

    Now NZ require 23 from 2 overs.

    They only need 22 from 2 to qualify for the final.
    I'd prefer my money on Saffers unfortunately - need 4 boundaries in 12 balls and several singles.

  • Chokers.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    19 off 9 balls
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Chooooooooooook
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    18 off 8
  • With all the focus on David Cameron's honesty with repeated playing of his BBC interview and inflation at nought bet Channel 4 Dispatches bosses are 'livid' that their programme on donors has been swamped from the news
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Indigo said:

    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    The main effect is another 3 days lost talking about BS when it could be better spent on Con`s campaign priorities.

    ROFL yes because labour's campaign priorities are going so well.

    How many gains in Scotland do you see ?
    Labour`s campaign is focussing on their priorities-NHS and others.

    Con`s campaign so far has been to defend Cameron from his cowardice about the debates and now his stupidity of talking about successors before an election campaign.
    So what you mean is that Labour are working their asses off selling their main message, while Cameron and crowd sit around chillaxing and batting aside the odd bit of nonsense about the debates (while getting exactly the debates they want)

    ... and you are still tied in the polls ?
    We`ll be happily tied.It`s Cons who need to be up to tie us on seats.And the NATS won`t deal with you,so your chances are receding everyday you don`t get a lead on votes.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    14 off 7
  • glwglw Posts: 9,956

    David Cameron gives an honest answer to a question and the Westminster Village, BBC and labour go into overdrive with faux outrage while at the same time every public response on Radio 5 live this am complimented him on his honesty and in one classic response someone said 'the Westminster bubble should just float away'. You watch David Cameron's population rise on this.

    There has been the same sort of response from the public on Radio London as well.

    Cameron gave an answer to straight forward question, the answer was broadly what had long been expected, but apparently this is some sort of tactical blunder or outrageous presumption. I for one would like more of this.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    14 from 7
  • Chokers
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    NZ require 12 from the last over.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    11 to qualify off 6
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Saffers choking now, running into each other in the field lol
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    Apropos all that cheerleading on NHS Cancer care yesterday

    http://news.sky.com/story/1451236/uk-10-years-behind-europe-on-cancer-survival
    Macmillan Cancer Support analysed the most recent results from global research into cancer survival and found many countries were doing better in the 1990s than the UK has managed to date.

    The charity's chief executive has urged political leaders to commit to tackling the "shameful" survival rates ahead of the General Election.
    Lucky BJO told us it is leading the world, otherwise we might think we are in trouble.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    11 from 6
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    11 to qualify off 6

    Steyn to bowl it though - not easy.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    10 for tie off 5
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    New chokeland vs South Chokrica
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Pulpstar said:

    Morning news was all Dave, Dave , Dave and then some Argy bargy near the Falklands ! Tory heaven !

    Definitely better for Dave than the Dudley North stuff that was running last evening.

    I have to say, I did wonder the same thing. But Cam was interviewed at the weekend, over sunday lunch I believe, so would he have known about the Dudley disaster at that point?
    Dave has the luck of the devil...

    If it wasn't for bad luck, Ed wood have none at all.
  • Come on Dernbach, you can win this!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    9 needed from 4 balls.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Looking like SA now 9 off 4 to qualify for NZ
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Pulpstar said:

    New chokeland vs South Chokrica

    Compared to Engchokerland
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Who is favourite ?

    9 off 4 is perhaps batting side, but 9 off 3 isn't...
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    5 off 3 to qulify
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704

    Pulpstar said:

    New chokeland vs South Chokrica

    Compared to Engchokerland
    Are England good enough to Choke?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    5 off 3, reckon NZ make this.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    4 from 2 to tie
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Saffers still in this.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    On topic, maybe Cameron just can't be arsed with it all any more. This would explain him coming up with a "renegotiation" plan that was obviously completely impractical not to mention very hard for any potential coalition partners to swallow, then hooking it around "if I am Prime Minister, this will happen". Instead he comes out as largest party, resigns to be good to his word, lets somebody else come up with a more sensible policy, goes down in history as Britain's most principled leader ever and finally gets to take some time off.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    NZ win.
  • Get in.

    South Africa always choke.
  • philiph said:

    Pulpstar said:

    New chokeland vs South Chokrica

    Compared to Engchokerland
    Are England good enough to Choke?
    we do but against Bangladesh
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Boom boom
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Get in.

    South Africa always choke.

    Boom !
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Yeeeeesss NZ make it.

    Need Guptil to score 10 in final to overhaul Sanga should be enough to be top runscorer at 16/1
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,680
    JackW said:

    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 21st March Projection) :

    Con 310 (+2) .. Lab 246 (-2) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 36 (NC) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority
    ......................................................................................

    "JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :

    Bury North - Con Hold
    Pudsey - Likely Con Hold
    Broxtowe - TCTC
    Warwickshire North - TCTC
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Con Hold
    Watford - TCTC
    Croydon Central - Con Hold
    Enfield North - TCTC from Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - TCTC
    Great Yarmouth - Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain

    Changes From 21 Mar - Enfield North moves from Likely Lab GAIN to TCTC

    TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes
    Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes
    Gain/Hold - Over 2500
    .......................................................................................

    ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)

    WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division
    JNN - Jacobite News Network
    ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
    APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain

    Matrix Switching Model

    Bury North - Likely Lab Gain
    Pudsey - Lab Gain
    Broxtowe - Lab Gain
    Warwickshire North - Lab Gain
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Lab Gain
    Watford - Likely Con Hold
    Croydon Central - Likely Lab Gain
    Enfield North - Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - Likely Con Gain
    Great Yarmouth - Likely Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - TCTC
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
  • South Africa in cricket world cups are like England's football team in penalty shoot outs
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704

    On topic, maybe Cameron just can't be arsed with it all any more. This would explain him coming up with a "renegotiation" plan that was obviously completely impractical not to mention very hard for any potential coalition partners to swallow, then hooking it around "if I am Prime Minister, this will happen". Instead he comes out as largest party, resigns to be good to his word, lets somebody else come up with a more sensible policy, goes down in history as Britain's most principled leader ever and finally gets to take some time off.

    Or he has looked at recent PMs who have gone into a third term and thought 'Hmmm, that didn't go well, two terms is enough for any PM'

    Recent history is on his side here, and it is very obvious how popularity of the leader has declined fast over extended time.

    I think for both the electorate and himself it is a no brainer to point out that we will have had enough of each other by the end of a second term.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415

    South Africa in cricket world cups are like England's football team in penalty shoot outs

    Like their rugby team too.
  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    "Not to be outdone, Nick Clegg announces that he won't be serving a first term as Prime Minister"
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    antifrank said:

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    Stoking inflation would have been a good thing. It would have been a way of distributing some of the pain more evenly between age groups, given all the pampering pensioners have had.
    I thought the thinking at the Bank of England was to target nominal GDP growth of 5%*, and to be supremely relaxed about how that broke down between inflation and real growth. So a few years ago we had inflation of 5% and zero growth, but that was fine because it's nominal GDP growth of 5%. Similarly, last year inflation was down, real GDP growth was up, so nominal GDP growth was still around 5%.

    Unless growth really accelerates this year it looks like we will have nominal GDP growth of about 3%, with zero inflation. That's why the Chief Economist at the Bank is talking about cutting interest rates. Nominal GDP growth is expected to be a lot lower than planned.

    * I think this is because it's the level of nominal GDP growth that determines whether you are caught in a debt deflation trap.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    edited March 2015
    Barnesian said:

    JackW said:

    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 21st March Projection) :

    Con 310 (+2) .. Lab 246 (-2) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 36 (NC) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority
    ......................................................................................

    "JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :

    Bury North - Con Hold
    Pudsey - Likely Con Hold
    Broxtowe - TCTC
    Warwickshire North - TCTC
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Con Hold
    Watford - TCTC
    Croydon Central - Con Hold
    Enfield North - TCTC from Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - TCTC
    Great Yarmouth - Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain

    Changes From 21 Mar - Enfield North moves from Likely Lab GAIN to TCTC

    TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes
    Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes
    Gain/Hold - Over 2500
    .......................................................................................

    ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)

    WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division
    JNN - Jacobite News Network
    ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
    APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain

    Matrix Switching Model

    Bury North - Likely Lab Gain
    Pudsey - Lab Gain
    Broxtowe - Lab Gain
    Warwickshire North - Lab Gain
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Lab Gain
    Watford - Likely Con Hold
    Croydon Central - Likely Lab Gain
    Enfield North - Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - Likely Con Gain
    Great Yarmouth - Likely Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - TCTC
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
    Thank you for that appreciation.

    However I feel your Labour "Gain" considerations are somewhat like England winning the Cricket World Cup - an utter fantasy with Ed Miliband failing even to get out of the Group Stage.

  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Watching the TV interview yesterday,Cameron keeps repeating

    `My health is OK`.

    Bizarre.
  • glwglw Posts: 9,956

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    No, but it is an outrage or blunder that he has said what we all expected him to say.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    Moi.

    I thought there was a prospect of Cameron winning a third election in 2020 and then departing after a couple of years just as Blair did.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    "You only have to look at the mass of Dave-centred glossy literature being pushed through letter boxes in the key marginals at the moment to realise how important Cameron is to the campaign."

    NE Derbyshire is not a marginal to my mind, but I know it is part of the 40:40 strategy.

    Not a mention of Dave on my doorstep literature.
  • Dave is doing a repeat of what Jim Callaghan did in 1979 and what Tony Blair did in 2005 saying they intend to retire asPM at the end of the subsequent parliament. I do not see this as a surprise.

    The question is if he remains PM after 7 May, will he in fact retire in 2019 or early 2020 and we have a new PM then when Conservative members elect him/her or does a new Conservative leader be elected early 2020 and Dave remains PM till election and then retires as PM ( and probably but not necessarily as MP also)? Strangely I do not rule out the second option as after all this is what happened last time in both a small and a large country - I refer to Ireland and to India.

    Of course Daves future plans may be affected by the possibility of a general election before 2020 which is possible despite Fixed Parliament. If Daves government lost a future vote ofconfidence, I do not think he could stand in ensuing GE and party would have to anoint a successor or he may realise in advance his government may fall and he may retire before the embarrassment of the loss of vote of confidence.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Todays BJESUS

    24.3.15 LAB 292 (291) CON 271(271) LD 30(30) UKIP 2(3) Others 55(55) (Ed is crap is PM)
    Last weeks BJESUS in brackets
    BJESUS (Big John Election Service Uniform Swing) BJESUS (Big John Election Service Uniform Swing)
    Using current polling adjusted for 43 days left to go factor and using UKPR standard swingometer
  • FalseFlagFalseFlag Posts: 1,801
    Reading far too much into like ratings. If people wanted a Labour government why didn't/aren't they voting for one.

    You just have to look at the LD numbers to realise the irrelevancy.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    Who knows, notwithstanding my "maybe he just can't be arsed with all this shit any more" theory, it's unusual for Prime Ministers to leave until they're either dragged out by their own party or booted out by the voters. Just thinking about British PMs in the last century or so, how many examples can we think of who went of their own accord?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    JackW said:

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    Moi.

    I thought there was a prospect of Cameron winning a third election in 2020 and then departing after a couple of years just as Blair did.

    By 2020 he'll have been Conservative leader for 15 years (assuming he lasts that long, of course). Of modern Conservative leaders only Maggie lasted that long, and by common consent it was too long.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,964
    Good morning, everyone.

    Slightly surprised by Cameron's announcement. Only relevant really if he wins (or the Miliband-led government is very unstable).
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787

    JackW said:

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    Moi.

    I thought there was a prospect of Cameron winning a third election in 2020 and then departing after a couple of years just as Blair did.

    By 2020 he'll have been Conservative leader for 15 years (assuming he lasts that long, of course). Of modern Conservative leaders only Maggie lasted that long, and by common consent it was too long.
    I'd venture to suggest that Maggie and Dave are different characters and certainly with Cameron there has never been the suggestion that he'd go "on and on".

    Also the rush of Conservative leaders in the early 2000's is unusual.

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821

    Just thinking about British PMs in the last century or so, how many examples can we think of who went of their own accord?

    Not many, and when they did it was usually health-related (Macmillan, Wilson).
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Todays BJESUS

    24.3.15 LAB 292 (291) CON 271(271) LD 30(30) UKIP 2(3) Others 55(55) (Ed is crap is PM)
    Last weeks BJESUS in brackets
    BJESUS (Big John Election Service Uniform Swing) BJESUS (Big John Election Service Uniform Swing)
    Using current polling adjusted for 43 days left to go factor and using UKPR standard swingometer

    Labour Jesus's ARSE gap now 292-246 = 46

    To be tracked...
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    JackW said:

    I'd venture to suggest that Maggie and Dave are different characters

    I think you might be right!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Shredded Wheat will be glad of the free publicity, I'm sure.
  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @ToryTreasury: Inflation is 0.0%. @Ed_Miliband 's cost of living campaign has, literally, come to nought

    crisis what crisis
    another miliband wheel fallen off his bandwagon
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,680
    JackW said:

    Barnesian said:

    JackW said:

    BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS **** BREAKING WIND NEWS ****

    The breaking news is that WIND is reporting to the JNN the contents of the latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election and "JackW Dozen" Projections. (Changes From 21st March Projection) :

    Con 310 (+2) .. Lab 246 (-2) .. LibDem 32 (NC) .. SNP 36 (NC) .. PC 2 .. NI 18 .. UKIP 3 .. Respect 1 .. Green 1 .. Ind 0 .. Speaker 1

    Conservatives 16 seats short of a majority
    ......................................................................................

    "JackW Dozen" - 13 seats that will shape the General Election result :

    Bury North - Con Hold
    Pudsey - Likely Con Hold
    Broxtowe - TCTC
    Warwickshire North - TCTC
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Con Hold
    Watford - TCTC
    Croydon Central - Con Hold
    Enfield North - TCTC from Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - TCTC
    Great Yarmouth - Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - Con Hold
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain

    Changes From 21 Mar - Enfield North moves from Likely Lab GAIN to TCTC

    TCTC - Too Close To Call - Less than 500 votes
    Likely Hold/Gain - 500 - 2500 votes
    Gain/Hold - Over 2500
    .......................................................................................

    ARSE is sponsored by Auchentennach Fine Pies (Est 1745)

    WIND - Whimsical Independent News Division
    JNN - Jacobite News Network
    ARSE - Anonymous Random Selection of Electors
    APLOMB - Auchentennach Pies Leading Outsales Mainland Britain

    Matrix Switching Model

    Bury North - Likely Lab Gain
    Pudsey - Lab Gain
    Broxtowe - Lab Gain
    Warwickshire North - Lab Gain
    Cambridge - LibDem Hold
    Ipswich - Lab Gain
    Watford - Likely Con Hold
    Croydon Central - Likely Lab Gain
    Enfield North - Likely Lab Gain
    Cornwall North - Likely Con Gain
    Great Yarmouth - Likely Con Hold
    Vale of Glamorgan - TCTC
    Ochil and South Perthshire - SNP Gain
    Thank you for that appreciation.

    However I feel your Labour "Gain" considerations are somewhat like England winning the Cricket World Cup - an utter fantasy with Ed Miliband failing even to get out of the Group Stage.

    We'll see, won't we? Let's compare early morning 8th May.

    My model doesn't do trends. It is based on current polling so it is a prediction of what would happen if there was an election today.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    looking at @TSE's deleted post I don't think that is as bad for the SNP as it may look - it was "additional" SNP voters, Scotland's turnout was only 63.8% last time so may well nudge up a bit plus some of those saying Labour may not turnout on the day either...
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,858
    Indigo said:

    Apropos all that cheerleading on NHS Cancer care yesterday

    http://news.sky.com/story/1451236/uk-10-years-behind-europe-on-cancer-survival

    Macmillan Cancer Support analysed the most recent results from global research into cancer survival and found many countries were doing better in the 1990s than the UK has managed to date.

    The charity's chief executive has urged political leaders to commit to tackling the "shameful" survival rates ahead of the General Election.
    Lucky BJO told us it is leading the world, otherwise we might think we are in trouble.

    Cancer is a ticking time bomb of public anger in the UK. It's such a total deception - look at that poor boy the NHS were basically set to watch die, brought back to health in Romania of all places. Little wonder they wanted the parents arrested and the boy dragged back to his death bed. People are ceasing to believe in terminal cancer, and nor should they.
  • roserees64roserees64 Posts: 251
    Deflation beckons, low oil prices have helped low inflation , nothing to do with government!

  • kjohnwkjohnw Posts: 1,456

    Deflation beckons, low oil prices have helped low inflation , nothing to do with government!

    Gabble!
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    No, but given what we know about the British media, and their inability to deal with direct honesty without running around like headless chickens, he should probably have dissembled.

    If the Conservatives are still in government after the election then the media will try to give us a four-year long Conservative leadership campaign. I think this reflects badly on the British media, rather than Cameron, but he would have done us all a favour to keep his intention not to serve a third term to himself.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,027

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    I am going to put my hand up for that. I really did not see how all that QE could not result in a run on the £ and consequential inflation. I clearly underestimated the deflationary effects of the reduction of Bank balance sheets and the reduction of consumer borrowing.

    I also expected interest rates to be rising by now on the back of stronger growth. Once again I underestimated the deflationary pressures but at least I am consistently wrong!

    The management of Osborne and Mark Carney over these last several years is arguably the finest we have seen over a sustained period for at least 50 years.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @TelePolitics: Labour accused of using 'inappropriate' election poster image of potential 'victim of child abuse' http://t.co/IfQLDLVwPV
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    It's purely a hunch and I've spoken to no-one about it but I think this is a westminster village story. It may have dominated the news yesterday but the election is hardly gripping people anyway. It will make a difference to the internal dynamics of the Tory party if Cameron wins but I can't see it causing him problems at the election. How many PMs have served longer than 10 years consecutively? Only one in a very very long time. Alistair Campbell looked pained on Newsnight but then I think he knows Blair never really recovered his authority after his announcement and he doesn't like Cameron anyway. Easy to forget that Blair was already under pressure in 2004 and did it to reassert himself against the Brownites. If he went into an election pledging to serve a full term what authority would they have to remove him if they won?
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656

    JackW said:

    Is there anyone, anyone at all, who seriously thought Cameron would try to go on for a third term?

    Moi.

    I thought there was a prospect of Cameron winning a third election in 2020 and then departing after a couple of years just as Blair did.

    By 2020 he'll have been Conservative leader for 15 years (assuming he lasts that long, of course). Of modern Conservative leaders only Maggie lasted that long, and by common consent it was too long.
    I do not think that Margaret Thatcher lasted too long. The problem was that she was brought down by some of the disloyal types like Heseltine who had their own agendas. Had she stayed in office, she would never have signed Maastrict, for example, which already means she would have been better than her replacement.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262

    Indigo said:

    Apropos all that cheerleading on NHS Cancer care yesterday

    http://news.sky.com/story/1451236/uk-10-years-behind-europe-on-cancer-survival

    Macmillan Cancer Support analysed the most recent results from global research into cancer survival and found many countries were doing better in the 1990s than the UK has managed to date.

    The charity's chief executive has urged political leaders to commit to tackling the "shameful" survival rates ahead of the General Election.
    Lucky BJO told us it is leading the world, otherwise we might think we are in trouble.
    Cancer is a ticking time bomb of public anger in the UK. It's such a total deception - look at that poor boy the NHS were basically set to watch die, brought back to health in Romania of all places. Little wonder they wanted the parents arrested and the boy dragged back to his death bed. People are ceasing to believe in terminal cancer, and nor should they.


    But it's the envy of the world!

    Perhaps the dancing nurses at the Olympic opening ceremony, should have been replaced with whirling Undertakers.
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792

    Deflation beckons, low oil prices have helped low inflation , nothing to do with government!

    Has a government ever gone into an election with a better economic record than the Coalition?
    Healthy growth, plummeting unemployment and zero inflation. It's a tragedy that people can't just vote Coalition.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,387
    edited March 2015

    Deflation beckons, low oil prices have helped low inflation , nothing to do with government!

    Has a government ever gone into an election with a better economic record than the Coalition?
    Healthy growth, plummeting unemployment and zero inflation. It's a tragedy that people can't just vote Coalition.
    We should have had a "coupon" election like in 1918!

    Viva La Coalition! :smiley:

  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    Scott_P said:

    @TelePolitics: Labour accused of using 'inappropriate' election poster image of potential 'victim of child abuse' http://t.co/IfQLDLVwPV

    Jennifer's tibia ?
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    DavidL said:

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    I am going to put my hand up for that. I really did not see how all that QE could not result in a run on the £ and consequential inflation. I clearly underestimated the deflationary effects of the reduction of Bank balance sheets and the reduction of consumer borrowing.

    I also expected interest rates to be rising by now on the back of stronger growth. Once again I underestimated the deflationary pressures but at least I am consistently wrong!

    The management of Osborne and Mark Carney over these last several years is arguably the finest we have seen over a sustained period for at least 50 years.
    I thought QE = future inflation when Brown initiated it and Osborne continued it.
    One of the known knowns is that I know I know little about macro economics.
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    DavidL said:

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    I am going to put my hand up for that. I really did not see how all that QE could not result in a run on the £ and consequential inflation. I clearly underestimated the deflationary effects of the reduction of Bank balance sheets and the reduction of consumer borrowing.

    I also expected interest rates to be rising by now on the back of stronger growth. Once again I underestimated the deflationary pressures but at least I am consistently wrong!

    The management of Osborne and Mark Carney over these last several years is arguably the finest we have seen over a sustained period for at least 50 years.
    I agree totally with that last statement, Osborne has worked a miracle and anyone that cannot see that is a partisan idiot who cares more about his party than the country.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited March 2015
    breaking: Airbus A320 goes down in the Southern French Alps. Believed en route from Barcelona to Dusseldorf, with 148 on board...
  • DanSmithDanSmith Posts: 1,215
    Scott_P said:

    @TelePolitics: Labour accused of using 'inappropriate' election poster image of potential 'victim of child abuse' http://t.co/IfQLDLVwPV

    Is that a windup?
  • BenMBenM Posts: 1,795
    The difference in these favourability ratings between Labour and Tory Parties is 19 points.

    Between Cameron and Miliband, just 9.

    That relative differential doesn't suggest the presidential style campaign the Tories are haplessly indulging in is going ot have any effect.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Ha!
    Scott_P said:

    @ToryTreasury: Inflation is 0.0%. @Ed_Miliband 's cost of living campaign has, literally, come to nought

  • IndigoIndigo Posts: 9,966
    edited March 2015
    DanSmith said:

    Scott_P said:

    @TelePolitics: Labour accused of using 'inappropriate' election poster image of potential 'victim of child abuse' http://t.co/IfQLDLVwPV

    Is that a windup?
    The doctor in the article didn't think so
    Prof Christopher Colton, emeritus consultant in orthopaedic and accident surgery, Nottingham University Hospital, said: “If that X-ray presented itself at a hospital, all the alarm bells would ring for possible non-accidental injury.

    “There are absolutely clear two episodes of violence and possibly the bone bruise is a third." Prof Colton explained: “There is a fresh fracture in the middle of the leg, which is less than ten days old. Above the ankle there is a healed fracture consistent with a blow to the outer side of the leg, which is at least three to four weeks old.

    “On the knee side of the main fracture, there is a slight white haze in the centre of the bone suggesting a healed bone bruise or a healed green stick fracture, about five to six weeks old.” Prof Colton said there are other possibilities, such as the child having brittle bone disease, however he said he is “90 per cent certain” it is non-accidental injury.
    Labour were obviously just using a stock photo, but possibly a bit stupid not to have got a doctor to eyeball it first.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,027
    philiph said:

    DavidL said:

    I remember reading on PB a few years ago, that Osborne was stoking inflation....

    I am going to put my hand up for that. I really did not see how all that QE could not result in a run on the £ and consequential inflation. I clearly underestimated the deflationary effects of the reduction of Bank balance sheets and the reduction of consumer borrowing.

    I also expected interest rates to be rising by now on the back of stronger growth. Once again I underestimated the deflationary pressures but at least I am consistently wrong!

    The management of Osborne and Mark Carney over these last several years is arguably the finest we have seen over a sustained period for at least 50 years.
    I thought QE = future inflation when Brown initiated it and Osborne continued it.
    One of the known knowns is that I know I know little about macro economics.
    With the benefit of hindsight I see that reduction of Bank balance sheets and the consequential reduction of credit in the economy was so massive that it needed QE on the scale it was to offset it.

    But I did not see that at the time. It has been an incredible achievement and brilliantly calibrated.
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