"There are fears that Cameron’s position could be in grave peril at a post-election meeting of the 1922 Committee, which has been brought forward to the Monday after polling day on 7 May"
Well well well what's all this on tomorrows front pages about Labour accepting donations from Hedge Fund Managers and appearing to try to conceal such donations. Did not Ed say it was hedge funds and not hedge trimmers he wanted to focus on. I assume by that he meant hedge funds would donate more than hedge trimmers. Nauseating stinking hypocrisy and some posters on here go on about Ed's moral compass. Tripe.
@Pulpstar We know his chicke...goose is cooked if he loses, the line of the story is about him getting the heave if he can only form a minority government
There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.
Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.
Why did the chicken cross the road?
To get to Ed's other kitchen.
If you are going to try telling a joke,make sure it`s atleast a little bit funny.
You need a stronger password, since the post in your name at 9.31 must be the work of an impostor.
PS all references to ed "two kitchens" Miliband's second kitchen are inherently funny. Very funny.
Front of the Time's and the I newspaper very funny
Michael Savage @michaelsavage · Ed Miliband attacked Tories for being “the party of Mayfair hedge funds”. Martin Taylor runs the Nevsky Capital fund from a Mayfair address
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
@Pulpstar We know his chicke...goose is cooked if he loses, the line of the story is about him getting the heave if he can only form a minority government
He needs at least 315 to be SURE of his job I reckon. 295 seats probably 11-8 or so to go, 288 or thereabouts even money out.
Maybe that's a bit generous, this is the Conservative party - don't take kindly to losers.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
If he gets less seats than Ed he's toast. Nailed on.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
If he gets less seats than Ed he's toast. Nailed on.
@Pulpstar They are a bunch of nutters for even allowing this to get started. Or perhaps they are trying to tempt back the kippers? But that means losing the wets.
I don't see the problem...file you tax returns when you should, otherwise there is a penalty points system. If you keep racking those points up and you will get a big fine.
The current system makes no distinction between people who miss the deadline by a day and those that just make no attempt to file.
At the moment, the fine is the same, kinda of like if you do the equivalent of 34mph in a 30 once and do 130mph in a 30 day in day out.
@Pulpstar They are a bunch of nutters for even allowing this to get started. Or perhaps they are trying to tempt back the kippers? But that means losing the wets.
The 1922 committee ?
It works both for and against the Conservative party tbh - gets rid of duffers for leaders more quickly than Labour who don't have any mechanism, but also creates more instability with OK ones.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
Yes, I get why people think that and thus are angry about last time missing a majority, as they feel it was within their grasp - but there is very little chance of one now, and it would be a massive accomplishment for any Tory leader to maintain largest party status this time, so if he could manage it - and I don't think he will - it's about as much as anyone could hope for.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
That's crap. TheTories are pretty much at the same level of polling as 2010, despite UKIP being at 14%. The "charge to the centre" has clearly paid off.
‘He sings in the bath, leaves cigarette ends by the side of the sink, never replaces the loo roll, leaves his socks rolled up in a ball under the sofa, sleeps through the loudest of child squawking and farts in bed.’
Labour's hedge fund manager is not a big story. Alas although rank hypocrisy on the part of the Labour leadership, because it feeds into a pre-conceived idea of the Tories, but not Labour, it hurts them asymmetrically.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
That's crap. TheTories are pretty much at the same level of polling as 2010, despite UKIP being at 14%. The "charge to the centre" has clearly paid off.
Leaders: Cameron rolls the dice in European gamble
Mr Cameron rejected claims that he is facing Mission Impossible in his bid to reform the EU, insisting he will have a powerful “mandate for change” in Brussels if he wins the right to stay as Prime Minister.
He knows that Europe is the graveyard of previous Conservative leaders, and he is aware that a miscalculation on this issue will mean the end of his premiership.
It destroyed Thatcher, it destroyed Major and it will destroy Cameron. That's the beauty of it. One way or another even if he does manage to get past May 7th the referendum will destroy him and it will wreck the Tory party.
Most passwords are either cracked via using common words or passwords, to reveal the details of, say, 1% or 2% of users, or the plaintext is hacked. The latter is much more likely with informal sites, so don't re-use the same passwords for important (high security things, e.g. banking, email) and non-important things (hobby sites).
I object to Vanilla having such a high password requirement for this reason.
If David Cameron's private life is one hundredth as complicated as Elegabalus, I am pre-ordering his autobiography now.
Well it would explain why Cameron is in favour of gay marriage.
For those who don't know what you and I are talking about
Elagabalus' sexual orientation and gender identity are the subject of much debate. Elagabalus married and divorced five women,[38] three of whom are known. His first wife was Julia Cornelia Paula;[37] the second was the Vestal Virgin Julia Aquilia Severa.[37]
Within a year, he abandoned her and married Annia Aurelia Faustina,[37] a descendant of Marcus Aurelius and the widow of a man recently executed by Elagabalus. He had returned to his second wife Severa by the end of the year.[38] According to Cassius Dio, his most stable relationship seems to have been with his chariot driver, a blond slave from Caria named Hierocles, whom he referred to as his husband.[31]
The Augustan History claims that he also married a man named Zoticus, an athlete from Smyrna, in a public ceremony at Rome.[41] Cassius Dio reported that Elagabalus would paint his eyes, epilate his hair and wear wigs before prostituting himself in taverns, brothels,[42] and even in the imperial palace:
If David Cameron's private life is one hundredth as complicated as Elegabalus, I am pre-ordering his autobiography now.
Well it would explain why Cameron is in favour of gay marriage.
For those who don't know what you and I are talking about
Elagabalus' sexual orientation and gender identity are the subject of much debate. Elagabalus married and divorced five women,[38] three of whom are known. His first wife was Julia Cornelia Paula;[37] the second was the Vestal Virgin Julia Aquilia Severa.[37]
Within a year, he abandoned her and married Annia Aurelia Faustina,[37] a descendant of Marcus Aurelius and the widow of a man recently executed by Elagabalus. He had returned to his second wife Severa by the end of the year.[38] According to Cassius Dio, his most stable relationship seems to have been with his chariot driver, a blond slave from Caria named Hierocles, whom he referred to as his husband.[31]
The Augustan History claims that he also married a man named Zoticus, an athlete from Smyrna, in a public ceremony at Rome.[41] Cassius Dio reported that Elagabalus would paint his eyes, epilate his hair and wear wigs before prostituting himself in taverns, brothels,[42] and even in the imperial palace:
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
If David Cameron's private life is one hundredth as complicated as Elegabalus, I am pre-ordering his autobiography now.
Well it would explain why Cameron is in favour of gay marriage.
For those who don't know what you and I are talking about
Elagabalus' sexual orientation and gender identity are the subject of much debate. Elagabalus married and divorced five women,[38] three of whom are known. His first wife was Julia Cornelia Paula;[37] the second was the Vestal Virgin Julia Aquilia Severa.[37]
Within a year, he abandoned her and married Annia Aurelia Faustina,[37] a descendant of Marcus Aurelius and the widow of a man recently executed by Elagabalus. He had returned to his second wife Severa by the end of the year.[38] According to Cassius Dio, his most stable relationship seems to have been with his chariot driver, a blond slave from Caria named Hierocles, whom he referred to as his husband.[31]
The Augustan History claims that he also married a man named Zoticus, an athlete from Smyrna, in a public ceremony at Rome.[41] Cassius Dio reported that Elagabalus would paint his eyes, epilate his hair and wear wigs before prostituting himself in taverns, brothels,[42] and even in the imperial palace:
Most passwords are either cracked via using common words or passwords, to reveal the details of, say, 1% or 2% of users, or the plaintext is hacked. The latter is much more likely with informal sites, so don't re-use the same passwords for important (high security things, e.g. banking, email) and non-important things (hobby sites).
I object to Vanilla having such a high password requirement for this reason.
Today, for the first time ever, my eight year old daughter Lucy suddenly started talking about pop music, and telling me all her favourite songs (by Katy Perry and Gary Barlow, apparently).
ya big softy - great piece of music however, I really must take more time out to troll through the youtube archives for my old vinyl albums long since banished to the attic and not listened to for quite a while.
Leaders: Cameron rolls the dice in European gamble
Mr Cameron rejected claims that he is facing Mission Impossible in his bid to reform the EU, insisting he will have a powerful “mandate for change” in Brussels if he wins the right to stay as Prime Minister.
He knows that Europe is the graveyard of previous Conservative leaders, and he is aware that a miscalculation on this issue will mean the end of his premiership.
It destroyed Thatcher, it destroyed Major and it will destroy Cameron. That's the beauty of it. One way or another even if he does manage to get past May 7th the referendum will destroy him and it will wreck the Tory party.
You are getting too worked up about this. Cameron will deliver a referendum if the electorate allow and then retire no matter what the result.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
The Liberal Democrats have been embroiled in a new fundraising scandal after accepting a second potentially illegal donation that allegedly “bought” a donor access to Nick Clegg.
Lord Strasburger, a senior Lib Dem peer, resigned from the party on Friday night, and the Electoral Commission began an investigation over the allegations.
They are said to centre on a £10,000 donation that was allegedly paid to the party by the “stepfather” of an undercover businessman, which would be against the rules on donations.
The Channel 4 Dispatches investigation, due to be screened on Monday, is understood to show Lord Strasburger discussing how to circumvent donation disclosure rules.
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, is understood to have been filmed meeting the “dodgy” donor.
The Liberal Democrats have been embroiled in a new fundraising scandal after accepting a second potentially illegal donation that allegedly “bought” a donor access to Nick Clegg.
Lord Strasburger, a senior Lib Dem peer, resigned from the party on Friday night, and the Electoral Commission began an investigation over the allegations.
They are said to centre on a £10,000 donation that was allegedly paid to the party by the “stepfather” of an undercover businessman, which would be against the rules on donations.
The Channel 4 Dispatches investigation, due to be screened on Monday, is understood to show Lord Strasburger discussing how to circumvent donation disclosure rules.
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, is understood to have been filmed meeting the “dodgy” donor.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
Given both are in the top few "news" websites in the world, I think a lot more people do than would like to admit.
Today, for the first time ever, my eight year old daughter Lucy suddenly started talking about pop music, and telling me all her favourite songs (by Katy Perry and Gary Barlow, apparently).
ya big softy - great piece of music however, I really must take more time out to troll through the youtube archives for my old vinyl albums long since banished to the attic and not listened to for quite a while.
My 8 years old granddaughter was dancing to the smurfs on the Wii this very evening. Very amusing, not least in her delight at the points earned. But then again she is addicted to crossyroad.
Today, for the first time ever, my eight year old daughter Lucy suddenly started talking about pop music, and telling me all her favourite songs (by Katy Perry and Gary Barlow, apparently).
Then she asked her Daddy to name his favourite song.
I was too choked with emotions and wistfulness to give her a straight answer, but on reflection it should have been, of course, Who Knows Where The Time Goes.
Eight year old daughter? Jeez. I remember you talking about her when she was just a babe. Thinking about it, ten years I've been coming here (since the Cheadle by-election). I've acquired a wife and three daughters since then, moved city once and changed career twice. Who knows where the time goes indeed. Sandy Denny has perhaps the loveliest voice in popular music.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
Given both are in the top few "news" websites in the world, I think a lot more people do than would like to admit.
I have noticed amongst young women Mail Online is incredibly popular for its showbiz news. Their online success is quite impressive, expecially with sections of their website targeting North America and India. Whether this will offset the fall in circulation of their physical paper remains to be seen.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
Given both are in the top few "news" websites in the world, I think a lot more people do than would like to admit.
I have noticed amongst young women Mail Online is incredibly popular for its showbiz news. Their online success is quite impressive, expecially with sections of their website targeting North America and India. Whether this will offset the fall in circulation of their physical paper remains to be seen.
Like or not, the Mail is financially incredibly successful with no telly tax, no paywall or only being able to cover operating losses via a Trust who sits on a big pile of cash in a tax haven from selling a auto magazine years ago.
And for all the spewing of hate about the "sidebar of sham", I bet that drives huge amount of traffic through the site, especially (despite the Guardian cries of sexist) with mostly young women looking to get their hit of celeb tittle tattle.
Wouldn't buy the Mail myself, but clearly there is a sizable market out there that wants their product.
If David Cameron's private life is one hundredth as complicated as Elegabalus, I am pre-ordering his autobiography now.
Well it would explain why Cameron is in favour of gay marriage.
For those who don't know what you and I are talking about
Elagabalus' sexual orientation and gender identity are the subject of much debate. Elagabalus married and divorced five women,[38] three of whom are known. His first wife was Julia Cornelia Paula;[37] the second was the Vestal Virgin Julia Aquilia Severa.[37]
Within a year, he abandoned her and married Annia Aurelia Faustina,[37] a descendant of Marcus Aurelius and the widow of a man recently executed by Elagabalus. He had returned to his second wife Severa by the end of the year.[38] According to Cassius Dio, his most stable relationship seems to have been with his chariot driver, a blond slave from Caria named Hierocles, whom he referred to as his husband.[31]
The Augustan History claims that he also married a man named Zoticus, an athlete from Smyrna, in a public ceremony at Rome.[41] Cassius Dio reported that Elagabalus would paint his eyes, epilate his hair and wear wigs before prostituting himself in taverns, brothels,[42] and even in the imperial palace:
Today, for the first time ever, my eight year old daughter Lucy suddenly started talking about pop music, and telling me all her favourite songs (by Katy Perry and Gary Barlow, apparently).
Then she asked her Daddy to name his favourite song.
I was too choked with emotions and wistfulness to give her a straight answer, but on reflection it should have been, of course, Who Knows Where The Time Goes.
Eight year old daughter? Jeez. I remember you talking about her when she was just a babe. Thinking about it, ten years I've been coming here (since the Cheadle by-election). I've acquired a wife and three daughters since then, moved city once and changed career twice. Who knows where the time goes indeed. Sandy Denny has perhaps the loveliest voice in popular music.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
Given both are in the top few "news" websites in the world, I think a lot more people do than would like to admit.
I have noticed amongst young women Mail Online is incredibly popular for its showbiz news. Their online success is quite impressive, expecially with sections of their website targeting North America and India. Whether this will offset the fall in circulation of their physical paper remains to be seen.
Like or not, the Mail is financially incredibly successful with no telly tax, no paywall or only being able to cover operating losses via a Trust who sits on a big pile of cash in a tax haven from selling a auto magazine years ago.
And for all the spewing of hate about the "sidebar of sham", I bet that drives huge amount of traffic through the site, especially (despite the Guardian cries of sexist) with mostly young women looking to get their hit of celeb tittle tattle.
Wouldn't buy the Mail myself, but clearly there is a sizable market out there that wants their product.
The only thing I really objected to recently from the Mail was sticking Milly Dowlers' picture on their front page.
The "UKIP in meltdown" story playing very nicely at the moment for UKIP.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
That's crap. TheTories are pretty much at the same level of polling as 2010, despite UKIP being at 14%. The "charge to the centre" has clearly paid off.
Saturday's Guardian front page: Operation ‘Save Cameron’ launched #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
Can someone tell me what this story is about ?
About a week old.
A successful Tory leader would have used this period in office to not only capitalise on the collapse of the Liberal Democrats, but also retain the existing voter base to build a solid majority winning coalition at near 40% support; leading to pull the political centre of gravity in the UK toward them, not nihilistically chasing it.
Cameron left a massive flank open to UKIP, insulted them and berated them, and now very few of them are coming back. Just scraping 35% really is poor.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
There are no Guardian readers. Anyone who tries to pursue the people who comment in the Guardian will find their heads exploding.
I like to confuse my work colleagues by reading Mail Online and the Guardian during my lunch break.
Given both are in the top few "news" websites in the world, I think a lot more people do than would like to admit.
I have noticed amongst young women Mail Online is incredibly popular for its showbiz news. Their online success is quite impressive, expecially with sections of their website targeting North America and India. Whether this will offset the fall in circulation of their physical paper remains to be seen.
Like or not, the Mail is financially incredibly successful with no telly tax, no paywall or only being able to cover operating losses via a Trust who sits on a big pile of cash in a tax haven from selling a auto magazine years ago.
And for all the spewing of hate about the "sidebar of sham", I bet that drives huge amount of traffic through the site, especially (despite the Guardian cries of sexist) with mostly young women looking to get their hit of celeb tittle tattle.
Wouldn't buy the Mail myself, but clearly there is a sizable market out there that wants their product.
The only thing I really objected to recently from the Mail was sticking Milly Dowlers' picture on their front page.
The "UKIP in meltdown" story playing very nicely at the moment for UKIP.
Will Opinium and the Sunday YG save UKIP from their first sub-14% score in ELBOW since August?
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
That's crap. TheTories are pretty much at the same level of polling as 2010, despite UKIP being at 14%. The "charge to the centre" has clearly paid off.
Saturday's Guardian front page: Operation ‘Save Cameron’ launched #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers
Can someone tell me what this story is about ?
About a week old.
A successful Tory leader would have used this period in office to not only capitalise on the collapse of the Liberal Democrats, but also retain the existing voter base to build a solid majority winning coalition at near 40% support; leading to pull the political centre of gravity in the UK toward them, not nihilistically chasing it.
Cameron left a massive flank open to UKIP, insulted them and berated them, and now very few of them are coming back. Just scraping 35% really is poor.
It may cost him the election.
All the evidence suggests Ukip voters on the whole are not Tory when it comes to economic policy. The hope that the mass of such peole will vote for a Thatcherite party so long as it controls immigration and bashes criminals seems, well, hopeful.
Honestly, I can understand Tory malcontents being mad at Cameron for not getting a majority last time, even he seems to ascribe it entirely to the debates as silly as that is, suggesting he agrees he threw his chance away, but absurdly optimistic betters aside, Cameron faces an uphill battle to secure most seats, and I'm not seeing as many Tories suggesting it would be easy to win decisively, so if he manages to win most seats, are they really still going to be whinging?
He is entirely to blame for the direction the Conservative Party has taken. The pursuit of Guardian readers has been there downfall.
That's crap. TheTories are pretty much at the same level of polling as 2010, despite UKIP being at 14%. The "charge to the centre" has clearly paid off.
A successful Tory leader would have used this period in office to not only capitalise on the collapse of the Liberal Democrats, but also retain the existing voter base to build a solid majority winning coalition at near 40% support; leading to pull the political centre of gravity in the UK toward them, not nihilistically chasing it.
Cameron left a massive flank open to UKIP, insulted them and berated them, and now very few of them are coming back. Just scraping 35% really is poor.
It may cost him the election.
All the evidence suggests Ukip voters on the whole are not Tory when it comes to economic policy. The hope that the mass of such peole will vote for a Thatcherite party so long as it controls immigration and bashes criminals seems, well, hopeful.
I'm sorry, but that's not true. All the evidence does not suggest that. You are selecting the evidence that suits the stereotype you wish to paint onto UKIP. At least a third of UKIP voters are direct Tory defectors, and ex-Tories outnumber ex-Labour supporters within UKIP by a very considerable margin.
If Cameron had not insulted some of his natural supporters, shown empathy and successfully delivered on his pledge to lower immigration to 100k or below per year I'm confident he'd now been polling much better than 35%.
I am one of those defectors and have returned in sheer terror at the prospect of a Miliband government. But boy oh boy was it a close thing and, if it had been David Miliband as the alternative, I wouldn't have bothered.
I am under no illusions that Cameron has any answers to any of the long-term challenges the UK faces, other than the economy. And even there he will tack to what suits his political triangulation strategy.
Just because ex Tories outnumber ex Labour voters in Ukip does not make it a Thatcherite party. All the polling I've seen on economic issues shows Ukip supporters much nearer to Labour and the Lib Dems on economic policy than to the Tories. And as you surely know Cameron's pledge on net migration was absurd. There are countless millions of British citizens living abroad. Did you want him to forcibly stop them returning? And we're open to 400m foreign people and always will be inside the EU. What exactly did you expect him to do?
FPT. 'Danny565 Posts: 1,404 7:52AM Time to obligatorily wonder just what on earth people were thinking when they tipped Jim Murphy as the party's saviour.'
Its pretty simple really, Jim Murphy was the politician as Scottish Minister who delivered a resounding victory for Labour in Scotland at the last GE. I really believe that some posters on here from down South continue to underestimate just how much of a driving force he was in the political ground war up here in Scotland in 2010. And I am hard pushed to think of anyone else over the last five years in the Scottish Labour party who comes anywhere close to matching his abilities or previous achievements as a Labour MP or MSP!! Go on, have a go and come up with another elected Scottish Labour politician you think might be making a better job of it right now?
FPT. 'Danny565 Posts: 1,404 7:52AM Time to obligatorily wonder just what on earth people were thinking when they tipped Jim Murphy as the party's saviour.'
Its pretty simple really, Jim Murphy was the politician as Scottish Minister who delivered a resounding victory for Labour in Scotland at the last GE. I really believe that some posters on here from down South continue to underestimate just how much of a driving force he was in the political ground war up here in Scotland in 2010. And I am hard pushed to think of anyone else over the last five years in the Scottish Labour party who comes anywhere close to matching his abilities or previous achievements as a Labour MP or MSP!! Go on, have a go and come up with another elected Scottish Labour politician you think might be making a better job of it right now?
@Fitalass It is difficult to know if anyone could be stopping the SNP tide or not to be truthful. Murphy has a very hard task indeed, Ed Miliband being party leader straight after Gordon Brown (He was very popular in Scotland amongst Labourites) makes it especially hard also.
Just because ex Tories outnumber ex Labour voters in Ukip does not make it a Thatcherite party. All the polling I've seen on economic issues shows Ukip supporters much nearer to Labour and the Lib Dems on economic policy than to the Tories. And as you surely know Cameron's pledge on net migration was absurd. There are countless millions of British citizens living abroad. Did you want him to forcibly stop them returning? And we're open to 400m foreign people and always will be inside the EU. What exactly did you expect him to do?
UKIP whether it realises it or not is a decentralist party. It wants to devolve power as far down the political structure as is sensible to do. I do not think that equates to either current or past Tory ethos particularly and is the very antithesis of Labour ethos.
However decentralism made simple can be described as 'Big is Bad' so it opposes globalisation, big business and the associated corporatism and it opposes statism and big government. Therefore at one level it is Thatcherite in it wants small government and on another it would seem to be more socialist opposing big business (but not for the normal anti-capitalist reasons) although actually it isn't in any way socialist. It also is to a greater extent based on supply side economic theory (another very Thatcherite concept which through the concept of diseconomies of scale supports the idea that big is bad.
Where the Tories wanted to put the power in the hands of a business elite and Labour want to put the power into the hands of a self appointed political elite, UKIP want to put it in the hands of the people. UKIP may not have academics espousing their philosophical outlook but its pretty much as I suggest and pretty much what the likes of Farage have been saying. The thing is the concept of disempowering the ruling political class is so alien to the current political class and its media hangers on that none of them can actually work out what is so different about UKIP. So instead they view them just as a bunch of nutters
@Fitalass It is difficult to know if anyone could be stopping the SNP tide or not to be truthful. Murphy has a very hard task indeed, Ed Miliband being party leader straight after Gordon Brown (He was very popular in Scotland amongst Labourites) makes it especially hard also.
Also Ed hs the unique achievement of being less popular in Scotland than the poshest Tory in half a century...
FPT. 'Danny565 Posts: 1,404 7:52AM Time to obligatorily wonder just what on earth people were thinking when they tipped Jim Murphy as the party's saviour.'
Its pretty simple really, Jim Murphy was the politician as Scottish Minister who delivered a resounding victory for Labour in Scotland at the last GE. I really believe that some posters on here from down South continue to underestimate just how much of a driving force he was in the political ground war up here in Scotland in 2010. And I am hard pushed to think of anyone else over the last five years in the Scottish Labour party who comes anywhere close to matching his abilities or previous achievements as a Labour MP or MSP!! Go on, have a go and come up with another elected Scottish Labour politician you think might be making a better job of it right now?
The Labour party thought that devolution and the creation of the Holyrood Parliament would give the Scottish Labour party, and therefore the Labour Party at Westminster an impregnable fiefdom in Scotland. They really thought it would be a win win situation for them who ever was in power at Westminster, and because they expected it to provide a solid base that would support a Labour government at Westminster, while being a thorn in the side of any future Conservative Government.
But we then ended up with three consecutive Labour Governments at Westminster, and at every GE we saw the ambitious Scottish Labour politicians who had entered Holyrood after devolution immediately using it as a stepping stone on the road to Westminster and away from grass roots Scottish politics. Looking back over the last decade, its not hard to see why the SNP were able to step so neatly and effectively into the role of being the party of the left up here after the Labour party itself left such a political vacuum in their wake.
While Margaret Curran was trying to flit down to Westminster at the last GE, Alex Salmond was making the move back up the road to actually get involved with Scottish politics. Jim Murphy maybe disillusioned about Westminster politics as a Labour MP under Ed Miliband, but he is trying to replicate that move by Salmond at the last GE by being the first very capable and talented Scottish Labour MP to make the move back to Scottish politics at Holyrood. And remember, he has a poor relationship with Ed Miliband and Ed Balls, so he is quite correctly trying to portray himself as a man who will not be a push over when it comes to any Government at Westminster, Labour or Conservative.
@Fitalass It is difficult to know if anyone could be stopping the SNP tide or not to be truthful. Murphy has a very hard task indeed, Ed Miliband being party leader straight after Gordon Brown (He was very popular in Scotland amongst Labourites) makes it especially hard also.
Scots don't mind a posh tory like Cameron, they understand him for what he is, the scion of an aristo family that's ruled for generations. There's no great political desire in Cameron, it's just noblesse oblige.
It's the middle class true believers like Thatcher that cause the problems........
The Labour party thought that devolution and the creation of the Holyrood Parliament would give the Scottish Labour party, and therefore the Labour Party at Westminster an impregnable fiefdom in Scotland. They really thought it would be a win win situation for them who ever was in power at Westminster, and because they expected it to provide a solid base that would support a Labour government at Westminster, while being a thorn in the side of any future Conservative Government.
But we then ended up with three consecutive Labour Governments at Westminster, and at every GE we saw the ambitious Scottish Labour politicians who had entered Holyrood after devolution immediately using it as a stepping stone on the road to Westminster and away from grass roots Scottish politics. Looking back over the last decade, its not hard to see why the SNP were able to step so neatly and effectively into the role of being the party of the left up here after the Labour party itself left such a political vacuum in their wake.
While Margaret Curran was trying to flit down to Westminster at the last GE, Alex Salmond was making the move back up the road to actually get involved with Scottish politics. Jim Murphy maybe disillusioned about Westminster politics as a Labour MP under Ed Miliband, but he is trying to replicate that move by Salmond at the last GE by being the first very capable and talented Scottish Labour MP to make the move back to Scottish politics at Holyrood. And remember, he has a poor relationship with Ed Miliband and Ed Balls, so he is quite correctly trying to portray himself as a man who will not be a push over when it comes to any Government at Westminster, Labour or Conservative.
Is it really that hard to conform to what most other people on the board do and post your comments below other comments? It seems bizarre and deliberately antagonistic but from the content of your posts maybe that;s to be expected.
Murphy is talented? Murphy has moved the Labour vote fro 28% to 26%. He has reduced the SNP vote from 47% to 47%. That does not seem to be talented. Failure is how it comes across.
Maybe you are out of touch with Scottish politics.
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posted it earlier
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/camerons-praetorian-guard-plan-to-save-him-from-post-election-unseating
Oh My.
We know his chicke...goose is cooked if he loses, the line of the story is about him getting the heave if he can only form a minority government
Michael Savage @michaelsavage ·
Ed Miliband attacked Tories for being “the party of Mayfair hedge funds”. Martin Taylor runs the Nevsky Capital fund from a Mayfair address
Maybe that's a bit generous, this is the Conservative party - don't take kindly to losers.
Michael Savage
@michaelsavage Here is #MartinTaylor getting an award in 2010, revealing how he built up his hedge fund working 100-hour weeks: https://youtu.be/MdbvuObWmR4?t=8m32s …
/pedant
They are a bunch of nutters for even allowing this to get started.
Or perhaps they are trying to tempt back the kippers? But that means losing the wets.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/11486621/Liberal-Democrats-and-Nick-Clegg-in-new-party-fundraising-scandal.html
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/03/20/labours-mystery-600k-donor-martin-taylor-revealed-as-mayfair-hedge-funder/
Hedge fund has huge interests in energy cos like Gazprom
HAHAHA HAHAHA
The 64k$ question - did ed have Martin round to a kitchen supper or just to a second kitchen supper?
The current system makes no distinction between people who miss the deadline by a day and those that just make no attempt to file.
At the moment, the fine is the same, kinda of like if you do the equivalent of 34mph in a 30 once and do 130mph in a 30 day in day out.
It works both for and against the Conservative party tbh - gets rid of duffers for leaders more quickly than Labour who don't have any mechanism, but also creates more instability with OK ones.
Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick
Updated Times front page with new #eclipse2015 photo
#tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/y77Kn1Jhii
The times have changed the eclipse photo - lol
They could have plotted after the election if they had a bit of common sense?
/pedant2
At times you could almost believe the 1922 was full of leftwing plants.
Or theTurnip Taliban? (hat tip to @Malcom)
I don't think the BBC will be able to shut this down.
Remember with HSBC, Lord Paul was also named...hardly a mention on BBC..
Remember when Ed was banging on about those using tax avoidance and tax efficient methods...John Mills get much of a mention, did it bollocks.
‘He sings in the bath, leaves cigarette ends by the side of the sink, never replaces the loo roll, leaves his socks rolled up in a ball under the sofa, sleeps through the loudest of child squawking and farts in bed.’
CHAMPION I say.
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2015/03/01/operation-save-dave-is-unlikely-to-succeed/
Please note Guardian, Praetorian Guards can be a bit rubbish. As Emperor Elagabalus would confirm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus#Assassination
Arguably closer to the 2005 GE figures.
Jesus wept - How the f'ck is the BBC going to hide this?
http://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/2015/03/20/labours-mystery-600k-donor-martin-taylor-revealed-as-mayfair-hedge-funder/
Leaders: Cameron rolls the dice in European gamble
Mr Cameron rejected claims that he is facing Mission Impossible in his bid to reform the EU, insisting he will have a powerful “mandate for change” in Brussels if he wins the right to stay as Prime Minister.
He knows that Europe is the graveyard of previous Conservative leaders, and he is aware that a miscalculation on this issue will mean the end of his premiership.
http://www.scotsman.com/news/leaders-cameron-rolls-the-dice-in-european-gamble-1-3724513
It destroyed Thatcher, it destroyed Major and it will destroy Cameron. That's the beauty of it. One way or another even if he does manage to get past May 7th the referendum will destroy him and it will wreck the Tory party.
Most passwords are either cracked via using common words or passwords, to reveal the details of, say, 1% or 2% of users, or the plaintext is hacked. The latter is much more likely with informal sites, so don't re-use the same passwords for important (high security things, e.g. banking, email) and non-important things (hobby sites).
I object to Vanilla having such a high password requirement for this reason.
For those who don't know what you and I are talking about
Elagabalus' sexual orientation and gender identity are the subject of much debate. Elagabalus married and divorced five women,[38] three of whom are known. His first wife was Julia Cornelia Paula;[37] the second was the Vestal Virgin Julia Aquilia Severa.[37]
Within a year, he abandoned her and married Annia Aurelia Faustina,[37] a descendant of Marcus Aurelius and the widow of a man recently executed by Elagabalus. He had returned to his second wife Severa by the end of the year.[38] According to Cassius Dio, his most stable relationship seems to have been with his chariot driver, a blond slave from Caria named Hierocles, whom he referred to as his husband.[31]
The Augustan History claims that he also married a man named Zoticus, an athlete from Smyrna, in a public ceremony at Rome.[41] Cassius Dio reported that Elagabalus would paint his eyes, epilate his hair and wear wigs before prostituting himself in taverns, brothels,[42] and even in the imperial palace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus#Sex.2Fgender_controversy
fleet street hounds go mad at a whiff of high profile sex scandal.
Revealed: Ex-chief constable who says Cyril Smith cover-up went right to the top
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3004934/Ex-chief-constable-says-Cyril-Smith-cover-went-right-top.html
Now Dave as Elegabalus, I'm going to need years of therapy.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3004302/Parents-anger-school-bans-pupils-watching-eclipse-cultural-religious-reasons.html
Cameron will deliver a referendum if the electorate allow and then retire no matter what the result.
The Liberal Democrats have been embroiled in a new fundraising scandal after accepting a second potentially illegal donation that allegedly “bought” a donor access to Nick Clegg.
Lord Strasburger, a senior Lib Dem peer, resigned from the party on Friday night, and the Electoral Commission began an investigation over the allegations.
They are said to centre on a £10,000 donation that was allegedly paid to the party by the “stepfather” of an undercover businessman, which would be against the rules on donations.
The Channel 4 Dispatches investigation, due to be screened on Monday, is understood to show Lord Strasburger discussing how to circumvent donation disclosure rules.
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, is understood to have been filmed meeting the “dodgy” donor.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/liberaldemocrats/11486621/Liberal-Democrats-and-Nick-Clegg-in-new-party-fundraising-scandal.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/labour-open-to-the-charge-of-hypocrisy-after-failing-to-divulge-hedge-fund-managers-donation-10124387.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/martin-taylor-some-hedge-fund-managers-do-support-the-labour-party-10124420.html
The Herald:
http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/wider-political-news/labour-donor-unveiled-as-millionaire-hedge-fund-manager.121227926
and The Times:
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/politics/article4388891.ece
Sandy Denny has perhaps the loveliest voice in popular music.
Next week: ComRes (phone)/The Mail, and Survation/Mirror
And for all the spewing of hate about the "sidebar of sham", I bet that drives huge amount of traffic through the site, especially (despite the Guardian cries of sexist) with mostly young women looking to get their hit of celeb tittle tattle.
Wouldn't buy the Mail myself, but clearly there is a sizable market out there that wants their product.
What was your song
Labour create another dodgy poster
UKIP create another dodgy receipt
Conservatives create another 1000 jobs.
The "UKIP in meltdown" story playing very nicely at the moment for UKIP.
Cameron left a massive flank open to UKIP, insulted them and berated them, and now very few of them are coming back. Just scraping 35% really is poor.
It may cost him the election.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3003429/We-better-George-Expert-backing-Chancellor-s-claim-family-incomes-higher-Coalition-began.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3003003/Ukip-axes-MEP-general-election-candidate-financial-allegations.html
If Cameron had not insulted some of his natural supporters, shown empathy and successfully delivered on his pledge to lower immigration to 100k or below per year I'm confident he'd now been polling much better than 35%.
I am one of those defectors and have returned in sheer terror at the prospect of a Miliband government. But boy oh boy was it a close thing and, if it had been David Miliband as the alternative, I wouldn't have bothered.
I am under no illusions that Cameron has any answers to any of the long-term challenges the UK faces, other than the economy. And even there he will tack to what suits his political triangulation strategy.
Time to obligatorily wonder just what on earth people were thinking when they tipped Jim Murphy as the party's saviour.'
Its pretty simple really, Jim Murphy was the politician as Scottish Minister who delivered a resounding victory for Labour in Scotland at the last GE. I really believe that some posters on here from down South continue to underestimate just how much of a driving force he was in the political ground war up here in Scotland in 2010. And I am hard pushed to think of anyone else over the last five years in the Scottish Labour party who comes anywhere close to matching his abilities or previous achievements as a Labour MP or MSP!! Go on, have a go and come up with another elected Scottish Labour politician you think might be making a better job of it right now?
Gordon Brown
Edit - the BBC have to mention it in their coverage of the newspapers given its plastered over several front pages....
http://m.bbc.com/news/blogs-the-papers-31996399
However decentralism made simple can be described as 'Big is Bad' so it opposes globalisation, big business and the associated corporatism and it opposes statism and big government. Therefore at one level it is Thatcherite in it wants small government and on another it would seem to be more socialist opposing big business (but not for the normal anti-capitalist reasons) although actually it isn't in any way socialist. It also is to a greater extent based on supply side economic theory (another very Thatcherite concept which through the concept of diseconomies of scale supports the idea that big is bad.
Where the Tories wanted to put the power in the hands of a business elite and Labour want to put the power into the hands of a self appointed political elite, UKIP want to put it in the hands of the people. UKIP may not have academics espousing their philosophical outlook but its pretty much as I suggest and pretty much what the likes of Farage have been saying. The thing is the concept of disempowering the ruling political class is so alien to the current political class and its media hangers on that none of them can actually work out what is so different about UKIP. So instead they view them just as a bunch of nutters
But we then ended up with three consecutive Labour Governments at Westminster, and at every GE we saw the ambitious Scottish Labour politicians who had entered Holyrood after devolution immediately using it as a stepping stone on the road to Westminster and away from grass roots Scottish politics. Looking back over the last decade, its not hard to see why the SNP were able to step so neatly and effectively into the role of being the party of the left up here after the Labour party itself left such a political vacuum in their wake.
While Margaret Curran was trying to flit down to Westminster at the last GE, Alex Salmond was making the move back up the road to actually get involved with Scottish politics. Jim Murphy maybe disillusioned about Westminster politics as a Labour MP under Ed Miliband, but he is trying to replicate that move by Salmond at the last GE by being the first very capable and talented Scottish Labour MP to make the move back to Scottish politics at Holyrood. And remember, he has a poor relationship with Ed Miliband and Ed Balls, so he is quite correctly trying to portray himself as a man who will not be a push over when it comes to any Government at Westminster, Labour or Conservative.
It's the middle class true believers like Thatcher that cause the problems........
Murphy is talented? Murphy has moved the Labour vote fro 28% to 26%. He has reduced the SNP vote from 47% to 47%. That does not seem to be talented. Failure is how it comes across.
Maybe you are out of touch with Scottish politics.