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  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533

    Keep paying up, taxpayers - or we'll send the boys round....
    Looks like the result of an Ed Balls tackle.
    Or Boris :-)
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    @nicholaswatt: Exc: @ed_miliband complained in person to @george_osborne about his 'two kitchens' jibe in budget, say Tories http://t.co/QbxF5cKL9S

    While he was whining to GO, did Ed apologies for the personal insults he made to the PM at PMQs?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.

    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    Groan....
    Whats wrong with aminimumof8characters ?

    or Oceans11 for that matter. To be honest I thought RobinAndThe7Hoods was better
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    Scott_P said:

    @nicholaswatt: Exc: @ed_miliband complained in person to @george_osborne about his 'two kitchens' jibe in budget, say Tories http://t.co/QbxF5cKL9S

    Because Ed never does the same.....

    I can just imagine how discussion in the "kitchenette" went on Wednesday night.

    Justine, Justine...those nasty bigger boys were horrible today at work...they said...they said...we have two fridges. We don't do we Justine?
  • MonikerDiCanioMonikerDiCanio Posts: 5,792
    Scott_P said:

    @nicholaswatt: Exc: @ed_miliband complained in person to @george_osborne about his 'two kitchens' jibe in budget, say Tories http://t.co/QbxF5cKL9S

    Ed doesn't like the heat.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited March 2015
    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    X0OvEgXjxU

    [ed: sorry, you said lower case only] gmrsxymhvg

    aabbccddeeffgghhiijj

    Get my drift?
  • @TSEofPB: As per earlier. Channel 4 next Thurs at 9pm have put in their schedules a show entitled

    "The Leaders' interviews" http://t.co/u645IEclG4
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited March 2015
    Ed's kitchen is truly the gift that keeps on giving. Twice.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100

    Channel 4 next Thursday at 9pm have put in their schedules a show entitled

    "The Leaders' interviews"

    Damn, I am washing my hair then....

    90 mins (with adverts), not going to be very long interviews then.
    "The Leaders interviews"
    I hope they put them side by side on a couch.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,543
    CD13 said:

    "UKIP has now suspended 18 councillors, 14 candidates, 2 MEPs, 1 national secretary, 1 youth sec, 1 Scottish chair & an entire local branch''

    I say well done to Ukip. As a NOTA, I'd say that's about par for a party their size. When will labour, the Tories and LDs clear out some of the "gypsies tramps and thieves" they're infested with.

    Bah, I'm in a grumpy mood today. Must be that bloody solar eclipse reducing the Ed M take from my solar panels.

    Labour has just expelled 130 people from one constituency association.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Speedy said:

    "The Leaders interviews"
    I hope they put them side by side on a couch.

    On the set of Saturday Kitchen...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    Groan....
    Whats wrong with aminimumof8characters ?

    or Oceans11 for that matter. To be honest I thought RobinAndThe7Hoods was better
    Also the joke about character creation in some RPGs, where the dialogue will say "Choose wisely, this can't be changed later", cue people posting images of characters named 'wisely', and 'changed'.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Scott_P said:

    Ed's kitchen is truly the gift that keeps on giving. Twice.

    We need a 'titter' emoticon.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    More than 130 new members of the Halifax Labour party have been disqualified from voting for the party’s general election candidate after suspicions were raised about their recruitment.

    All but seven of the disqualified members are of Asian heritage, and joined six to 12 months ago in the same multicultural ward of Halifax, according to Linda Riordan, the outgoing MP, who resigned at the end of February.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/labour-disqualifies-130-halifax-party-members-linda-riordan

    We keep getting wind of these kind of stories.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    edited March 2015
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.

    Not many 20 letter words around - but even having a simple phrase such as 'Ialwaysknowmypassword' is just as difficult to crack - but dead easy to remember.

    (password hackers use a large database of common words and try them with numbers added - or O replace by 0 - that sort of thing. The larger their database the worse it is for them in this case as they must try all combinations. So a million sample word database would require 10^6^5 = 10^30 attempts to match the 5-word phrase quoted))

    (I hasten to add that the phrase shown is for illustrative purposes only. having the word 'password' in it reduces the possible combinations - but remember that the hacker does not know the length of your password)
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    JWisemann said:

    Im actually very warm hearted that both left and right are rounding on the sociopathic views of GeoffM which really do present as a leftist satire on Conservative attitudes

    I think you're reading a different site, sunshine.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.
    Not many 20 letter words around - but even having a simple phrase such as 'Ialwaysknowmypassword' is just as difficult to crack - but dead easy to remember.

    (password hackers use a large database of common words and try them with numbers added - or O replace by 0 - that sort of thing. The larger their database the worse it is for them in this case as they must try all combinations. So a million sample word database would require 10^6^5 = 10^30 attempts to match the 5-word phrase quoted))

    Yeah, a 20-letter word would be far easier to crack than 4 5-letter words joined together.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Late to the password conversation, but if you are looking for serious password management and protection, 2-factor always helps. These things are great

    https://store.yubico.com/store/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=95
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534
    Scott_P said:

    Don't break your leg in Wales. You might still be waiting for an ambulance...
    It takes quite a long time to create a poster like this. So Labour knew well before this week they would have no response to the budget, hence their use of Goebbels big lie strategy once again. It will be quite something if the electorate fall for this BS.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,717
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.
    Not many 20 letter words around - but even having a simple phrase such as 'Ialwaysknowmypassword' is just as difficult to crack - but dead easy to remember.

    (password hackers use a large database of common words and try them with numbers added - or O replace by 0 - that sort of thing. The larger their database the worse it is for them in this case as they must try all combinations. So a million sample word database would require 10^6^5 = 10^30 attempts to match the 5-word phrase quoted))
    Yeah, a 20-letter word would be far easier to crack than 4 5-letter words joined together.

    I use old car number plates with letters spelt out.... dee is D, em is M and so on
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,717
    Sean_F said:

    CD13 said:

    "UKIP has now suspended 18 councillors, 14 candidates, 2 MEPs, 1 national secretary, 1 youth sec, 1 Scottish chair & an entire local branch''

    I say well done to Ukip. As a NOTA, I'd say that's about par for a party their size. When will labour, the Tories and LDs clear out some of the "gypsies tramps and thieves" they're infested with.

    Bah, I'm in a grumpy mood today. Must be that bloody solar eclipse reducing the Ed M take from my solar panels.

    Labour has just expelled 130 people from one constituency association.
    Is that all from one association or some of them twice?
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    i went for fourweddings.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.
    Not many 20 letter words around - but even having a simple phrase such as 'Ialwaysknowmypassword' is just as difficult to crack - but dead easy to remember.

    (password hackers use a large database of common words and try them with numbers added - or O replace by 0 - that sort of thing. The larger their database the worse it is for them in this case as they must try all combinations. So a million sample word database would require 10^6^5 = 10^30 attempts to match the 5-word phrase quoted))

    (I hasten to add that the phrase shown is for illustrative purposes only. having the word 'password' in it reduces the possible combinations - but remember that the hacker does not know the length of your password)
    That would only be true if the five words were randomly taken from the million in the first place.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Coming to a poster near you?

    @WalesPolitics: "There's only one
    part of the UK where the NHS has been cut, and that's Wales
    which is run by the Labour Party", says David Cameron #GE2015
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642

    More than 130 new members of the Halifax Labour party have been disqualified from voting for the party’s general election candidate after suspicions were raised about their recruitment.

    All but seven of the disqualified members are of Asian heritage, and joined six to 12 months ago in the same multicultural ward of Halifax, according to Linda Riordan, the outgoing MP, who resigned at the end of February.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/labour-disqualifies-130-halifax-party-members-linda-riordan

    We keep getting wind of these kind of stories.

    Kinda puts those UKIP numbers in perspective.

    Some of the northern constituencies are a real real mess. There have been huge problems in Rotherham with the local Labour assosciation, now Labour in Halifax and prior to that Falkirk. Rotten to the core.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    MP_SE said:

    More than 130 new members of the Halifax Labour party have been disqualified from voting for the party’s general election candidate after suspicions were raised about their recruitment.

    All but seven of the disqualified members are of Asian heritage, and joined six to 12 months ago in the same multicultural ward of Halifax, according to Linda Riordan, the outgoing MP, who resigned at the end of February.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/labour-disqualifies-130-halifax-party-members-linda-riordan

    We keep getting wind of these kind of stories.

    Kinda puts those UKIP numbers in perspective.

    Some of the northern constituencies are a real real mess. There have been huge problems in Rotherham with the local Labour assosciation, now Labour in Halifax and prior to that Falkirk. Rotten to the core.
    Don't forget Bradford West. The candidate only lasted 72hrs after selection and stepped down in mysterious circumstances.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked

    Only on PB...
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.

  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    edited March 2015
    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Ha!
    Scott_P said:

    Coming to a poster near you?

    @WalesPolitics: "There's only one
    part of the UK where the NHS has been cut, and that's Wales
    which is run by the Labour Party", says David Cameron #GE2015

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Roger said:

    not nearly as negative

    There are times, Roger, when your parody persona is trying too hard. Dial it back just a touch
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    edited March 2015
    I don't like that Labour NHS poster.

    But I can see why Ed likes it - it's Too Kitsch.

  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    Something quite delicious about Harry Cole from Guido Fawkes calling the BBC metropolitan liberal elites on a video on their own website. 1.30 for the harsh but true words.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31989571
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Tories will reply with a split poster - one showing an arm in a sling and one showing a broken arm, horribly bent.

    Under the first will be : NHS - England - Tory. Under the second NHS - Wales - Labour
    And at the bottom something like - Who would YOU rather looked after your NHS?
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    With a password manager, what if you need to log in from another computer?
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    edited March 2015
    Roger said:

    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!

    It's amazingly dishonest, isn't it? I think tories are still ring fencing nhs expenditure till 2020, unless things have changed since the party conference last year. So what tory cuts? Does "next time" mean "in 2020"?
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    edited March 2015
    Roger said:

    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!

    'not nearly as negative' ! Youareunutterablyhilarious.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Scott 'n

    I'd love to know whether you get overtime for the extra hours you spend looking for negative Labour stories or whether at election time they just expect it for free? I don't know why you don't approach Labour. At least they'll be well unionised
  • nigel4englandnigel4england Posts: 4,800
    Roger said:

    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!

    I don't think I have ever heard such utter bollocks in my life.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    The poster has obviously touched a nerve!

    The public trust Labour more on the NHS, whatever Tory SpAds might tweet furiously about Wales. It's instinctive
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Freggles said:

    With a password manager, what if you need to log in from another computer?

    Mine syncs with Dropbox, so I have remote access. Only downside is I have to remember the Dropbox password, and hope it doesn't get hacked!
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
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    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    Not many 20 letter words around - but even having a simple phrase such as 'Ialwaysknowmypassword' is just as difficult to crack - but dead easy to remember.

    (password hackers use a large database of common words and try them with numbers added - or O replace by 0 - that sort of thing. The larger their database the worse it is for them in this case as they must try all combinations. So a million sample word database would require 10^6^5 = 10^30 attempts to match the 5-word phrase quoted))

    (I hasten to add that the phrase shown is for illustrative purposes only. having the word 'password' in it reduces the possible combinations - but remember that the hacker does not know the length of your password)
    That would only be true if the five words were randomly taken from the million in the first place.
    In theory yes - hence the caveat. Markov chains could possibly reduce the number of combinations - but remember that the hacker doesn't know how many letters or how many words. There are plenty of ways of making the phrase even harder. - the easiest is to increase the number of words (a La Snow White joke below)

    (For information: the computer that tests your password doesn't know it! What it does is takes the characters in your password and uses them to generate a 'hash value'. Information is lost during this process so it is impossible to decode the password FROM this 'hash value' - all the hacker can do is try passwords and see if the result going through the encryption algorithm produces the same value.)
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    Freggles said:

    The poster has obviously touched a nerve!

    The public trust Labour more on the NHS, whatever Tory SpAds might tweet furiously about Wales. It's instinctive

    The poster has obviously touched a nerve!

    Actually I think it reached the funny bone.


  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    I can't work out what's going on with Dropbox, OneCloud and GoogleDrive. They seem to be fighting with each other to publish crap pix I took by accident.

    I like Firefox Sync - I see most of the same things whatever device I'm using.

    EDIT I love Automatic Call - it records all mine in or outgoing.
    RobD said:

    Freggles said:

    With a password manager, what if you need to log in from another computer?

    Mine syncs with Dropbox, so I have remote access. Only downside is I have to remember the Dropbox password, and hope it doesn't get hacked!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    Izzy

    "It's amazingly dishonest, isn't it?"

    Possibly but not unpleasantly so. There's a gentle humour there as there was with the Tory one. But if it doesn't ring true it'll backfire as with all advertising.
  • welshowlwelshowl Posts: 4,464
    Roger said:

    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!

    Roger said:

    Good poster from Labour. Much easier to digest than the Tory one with Ed in Alex pocket and not nearly as negative (it implies Labour will cut less). Expect some broken plates at M&C Saatchi!

    For real?! It's off puttingly hideous.
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    We all know that Labour will campaign on the NHS as they have nothing else they can do. It is up to the Tories to a) rebut this campaign and b) drive their own messages (of which they have more) home.

    As they have the money, I would expect them to swamp Labour once Parliament is dissolved and the phoney war is over.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Plato said:

    I can't work out what's going on with Dropbox, OneCloud and GoogleDrive. They seem to be fighting with each other to publish crap pix I took by accident.

    I like Firefox Sync - I see most of the same things whatever device I'm using.

    RobD said:

    Freggles said:

    With a password manager, what if you need to log in from another computer?

    Mine syncs with Dropbox, so I have remote access. Only downside is I have to remember the Dropbox password, and hope it doesn't get hacked!
    Oh, is this a setting on your smartphone to auto publish photos on google + or something? Obtrusive. you should be able to disable it somehow
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    I'm usually pretty good with gadgets - but I clearly have dementia about Sony Z3 phones. It has a life of its own. Rings then doesn't. Plays a sound when emails or twitter arrives then doesn't. Honestly, I've no idea WTF is going on.

    Randomly publishing or syncing things is just another *feature* I'm enduring.

    If I had any secret I'd be fucked.
    RobD said:

    Plato said:

    I can't work out what's going on with Dropbox, OneCloud and GoogleDrive. They seem to be fighting with each other to publish crap pix I took by accident.

    I like Firefox Sync - I see most of the same things whatever device I'm using.

    RobD said:

    Freggles said:

    With a password manager, what if you need to log in from another computer?

    Mine syncs with Dropbox, so I have remote access. Only downside is I have to remember the Dropbox password, and hope it doesn't get hacked!
    Oh, is this a setting on your smartphone to auto publish photos on google + or something? Obtrusive. you should be able to disable it somehow
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Can we just forget about the campaign and have the election now please? It's getting beyond painful. None of the leaders have anything interesting to say, although Clegg's claim to being more anti-establishment now than he was in 2010 was at least eye-catching, if only for being absurd. I managed to sit through all the debates in 2010 even if a bit of fatigue set in a the end. Blair's masochism strategy of 2005 could hardly be called dull even if the man was at the point of having people throwing things at the TV. But this is just awful. Scaremongering, negative posters, a complete optimism deficit as we debate the non-debates and the PM tries to make sure all the big TV stuff that people might actually engage with is over before the public has remembered to switch the TV on because there's an election on the way soon.
  • glwglw Posts: 9,956
    saddo said:
    What is Ed going to do when negotiations with the likes of Putin go badly? Cry?
  • AlistairAlistair Posts: 23,670
    Plato said:

    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked

    Only on PB...
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.



    Hackers have rainbow tables of dictionary words (and compounds of pairs dictionary words)
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012

    MP_SE said:

    More than 130 new members of the Halifax Labour party have been disqualified from voting for the party’s general election candidate after suspicions were raised about their recruitment.

    All but seven of the disqualified members are of Asian heritage, and joined six to 12 months ago in the same multicultural ward of Halifax, according to Linda Riordan, the outgoing MP, who resigned at the end of February.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/labour-disqualifies-130-halifax-party-members-linda-riordan

    We keep getting wind of these kind of stories.

    Kinda puts those UKIP numbers in perspective.

    Some of the northern constituencies are a real real mess. There have been huge problems in Rotherham with the local Labour assosciation, now Labour in Halifax and prior to that Falkirk. Rotten to the core.
    Don't forget Bradford West. The candidate only lasted 72hrs after selection and stepped down in mysterious circumstances.
    Riordan the outgoing MP seems to be agreeing with the signing up of the membership though. She claims they voted for councillor candidates. I do not know if this has any significance, I point it out as the quote implies, as I first thought, that she was the whistleblower.
    Is Yorkshire the new Scotland?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,981
    edited March 2015
    Talking of political advertising. When I did my one and only PPB (which happened to be for the Lib Dems) it was written by Jeremy Bullmore who at the time was senior writer or possibly creative director of JWT.

    It was Paddy Ashdown's first PPB and it was entitled 'Maggies Broken Britain'. Lots of footage of dereliction intercut with Paddy in studio talking to camera. Jeremy's now working for WPP and Martin Sorrel Dave's biggest fan.

    Anyway I came across this. He's now become an advertising agony aunt in Campaign and the Guardian. Well worth a look


    http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/go/campaign_couch/
  • DavidBrackenburyDavidBrackenbury Posts: 354
    edited March 2015
    What the Conservatives should do is have a blow up of the famous note Lliam Byrne left to GO saying "Sorry but there's no money left" Then say that this is what Labour will do again. And from a worse base!
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited March 2015
    I do love an invitation to revisit In The Lib Dems - by Rory Bremner , the best EVAH piss take.

    youtube.com/watch?v=UP13Oc8CDxo
    Roger said:

    Talking of political advertising. When I did my one and only PPB (which happened to be for the Lib Dems) it was written by Jeremy Bullmore who at the time was senior writer or possibly creative director of JWT.

    It was Paddy Ashdown's first PPB and it was entitled 'Maggies Broken Britain'. Lots of footage of dereliction intercut with Paddy in studio talking to camera. He's now working for WPP and Martin Sorrel Dave's biggest fan.

    Anyway I came across this. He's now become an advertising agony aunt in Campaign and the Guardian. Well worth a look


    http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/go/campaign_couch/

  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    glw said:

    saddo said:
    What is Ed going to do when negotiations with the likes of Putin go badly? Cry?
    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,415
    Paging @isam
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    Alistair said:

    Plato said:

    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked

    Only on PB...
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.


    Hackers have rainbow tables of dictionary words (and compounds of pairs dictionary words)

    That's why you use more than 2 words! Gets exponentially harder.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043
    edited March 2015

    What the Conservatives should do is have a blow up of the famous note Lliam Byrne left to GO saying "Sorry but there's no money left" Then say that this is what Labour will do again. And from a worse base!

    Agreed, I think that'd be quite powerful.
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    Scott_P said:

    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
    There`
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Mark Tyrrell UKIP ‏@MarkTyrrellUKIP 46m46 minutes ago
    Labour disqualifies more than 130 Halifax party members before hustings http://gu.com/p/46zjd/stw
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759
    There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.

    Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.
  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584
    SMukesh said:

    There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.

    Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.


    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    To get to Ed's other kitchen.

  • Edin_RokzEdin_Rokz Posts: 516
    Scott_P said:

    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
    7 houses, how many kitchens does DC have?
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053

    Nothing to say? Why no headlines? @BBCNews @MirrorPolitics @Channel4 @hopenothate Where's the outcry? pic.twitter.com/OXGWS8Afzo

    — Suzanne Evans (@SuzanneEvans1) March 15, 2015
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    Two fingers up at the BBC / Guardian me thinks...

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579033410003406848
  • SMukeshSMukesh Posts: 1,759

    SMukesh said:

    There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.

    Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.


    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    To get to Ed's other kitchen.

    If you are going to try telling a joke,make sure it`s atleast a little bit funny.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    So Ed...I take this guy is a good hedge fund guy, it is all the rest that are bad eggs? Ed a hypocrite, surely not.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579026004439666689
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533
    edited March 2015
    It appears the Times might have got some egg on their face though...people are claiming that photo of the girls looking at the eclipse is from 2012 taken in Japan!!!

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WL9OCjejjlc/T78YA5lq1TI/AAAAAAAAAH8/_6qhxbtCmB4/s1600/kinkan+nishoku.png

    QUICK STOP THE PRESSES................

    I noticed an ITV journo got caught out with a fake photo of the eclipse from the ISS.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    An IT guy once told me I should make my password as long as possible.

    So now I use TheNeverendingStory
  • saddosaddo Posts: 534

    So Ed...I take this guy is a good hedge fund guy, it is all the rest that are bad eggs? Ed a hypocrite, surely not.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579026004439666689

    Its obvious. All Tory donors are evil, child eating maniacs. Labour ones on the other hand, like kittens, only invest in ethical companies etc etc.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    It appears the Times might have got some egg on their face though...people are claiming that photo of the girls looking at the eclipse is from 2012 taken in Japan!!!

    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WL9OCjejjlc/T78YA5lq1TI/AAAAAAAAAH8/_6qhxbtCmB4/s1600/kinkan+nishoku.png

    QUICK STOP THE PRESSES................

    I noticed an ITV journo got caught out with a fake photo of the eclipse from the ISS.

    Looks like it is from 2012. Oh dear!
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Latest ARSE with added APLOMB 2015 General Election & "JackW Dozen" Projection Countdown :

    11 hours 11 minutes 11 seconds
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    saddo said:

    So Ed...I take this guy is a good hedge fund guy, it is all the rest that are bad eggs? Ed a hypocrite, surely not.

    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/579026004439666689

    Its obvious. All Tory donors are evil, child eating maniacs. Labour ones on the other hand, like kittens, only invest in ethical companies etc etc.
    They'd buy shares in 'good' industrial phone hackers such as Trinity Mirror.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Saturday's i front page:
    Labour’s secret City donor revealed
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/KJXdlBUOkr

    You have to laugh.
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262


    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Saturday's i front page:
    Labour’s secret City donor revealed
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/KJXdlBUOkr

    You have to laugh.

    Miliband will whine that it's 'so unfair'.
  • SimonStClareSimonStClare Posts: 7,976
    Edin_Rokz said:

    Scott_P said:

    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
    7 houses, how many kitchens does DC have?
    Does it matter? - It was never the number of kitchens one has, but the attempt by Ed to pass off his second 'kitchenette' as the main kitchen.


    Must be the first class war ever waged by a Labour millionaire with a dual-kitchened mansion.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Saturday's Telegraph front page:
    Lib Dems engulfed in second donor row
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers pic.twitter.com/efEVHF74Vb

  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Harry Phibbs @harryph

    Stonking hypocrisy. But Labour have made this much worse for themselves with their clumsy attempt at a cover-up. pic.twitter.com/NEYh1QfFWg

  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited March 2015

    Edin_Rokz said:

    Scott_P said:

    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
    7 houses, how many kitchens does DC have?
    Does it matter? - It was never the number of kitchens one has, but the attempt by Ed to pass off his second 'kitchenette' as the main kitchen.


    Must be the first class war ever waged by a Labour millionaire with a dual-kitchened mansion.
    Next up, Ed claims that the nanny sleeps in the luxury master bedroom with ensuite wet room, and him and the Mrs make do with the attic, and a bucket.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    Charles said:

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    An IT guy once told me I should make my password as long as possible.

    So now I use TheNeverendingStory
    I thought you were going to say your password was aslongaspossible.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited March 2015
    MikeK said:

    Nothing to say? Why no headlines? @BBCNews @MirrorPolitics @Channel4 @hopenothate Where's the outcry? pic.twitter.com/OXGWS8Afzo

    — Suzanne Evans (@SuzanneEvans1) March 15, 2015
    There are no headlines because it is impossible for Labour to be racist. Calling Polish people offensive words is not racist, called Chuka Umuna Chukawumbawumba is not racist, British Jobs for British Workers is not racist, saying that white people like to play divide and rule is not racist, having neo-nazi councillors is not racist, accepting BNP members is not racist, etc etc etc.
  • MonksfieldMonksfield Posts: 2,808


    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Saturday's i front page:
    Labour’s secret City donor revealed
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/KJXdlBUOkr

    You have to laugh.

    Sounds like a nice bloke.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Police called in over billgate.
    I note that the bill claimed as part of this latest UKIP scandal was £3,150. But...
    ''The original receipt for the event, which Mr Farage and Ukip MP Mark Reckless attended, totalled £950 and was paid with a credit card. This week, however, Ms Hewitt returned to the restaurant to claim an invoice for £3,150.'' (Times)
    It looks like a room hire event was turned into a full blown meal, to be claimed on expenses allowable to the far right grouping UKIP made a point of joining. We see now why they needed to join. I wonder if any other restaurants have been in on the scam. It might be wise to keep quiet if there are because they will be part of a fraud.

    In this case Ms Hewitt is well in the frame so the question is will she be a patsy. From her alleged words this is not the first time they have repatriated money.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362


    Nick Sutton ✔ @suttonnick

    Saturday's i front page:
    Labour’s secret City donor revealed
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #BBCPapers pic.twitter.com/KJXdlBUOkr

    You have to laugh.

    Sounds like a nice bloke.
    Very good ;-)
  • weejonnieweejonnie Posts: 3,820
    SMukesh said:

    There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.

    Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.

    And for you mathematical dilettantes

    Why did the chicken cross the Mobius band?
    To get to the other ... oh s**t!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533

    Edin_Rokz said:

    Scott_P said:

    SMukesh said:

    At least he won`t be chicken and hide behind the sofa.

    Will he hide in one of his kitchens instead?
    7 houses, how many kitchens does DC have?
    Does it matter? - It was never the number of kitchens one has, but the attempt by Ed to pass off his second 'kitchenette' as the main kitchen.


    Must be the first class war ever waged by a Labour millionaire with a dual-kitchened mansion.
    Next up, Ed claims that the nanny sleeps in the luxury master bedroom with ensuite wet room, and him and the Mrs make do with the attic, and a bucket.
    http://www.worldrecordacademy.com/smallest/img/112188-1_worlds_smallest_apartment_Felice_Cohen.jpg
  • DaemonBarberDaemonBarber Posts: 1,626
    Alistair said:

    Plato said:

    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked

    Only on PB...
    RobD said:

    weejonnie said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    weejonnie said:

    Plato said:

    Millions still use easy-to-crack passwords such as ‘qwerty’ and ‘123456’, but many people are choosing to use more complex sets of characters for our online accounts.

    However, a new study has found these seemingly random passwords may be more obvious to hack than you realise.

    Researchers have shown that passwords such as ‘mnbvcxz’, ‘qaz2wsx’ and ‘adgjmptw’ can be cracked in seconds - and adding numbers to your codes does little to boost its strength

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3004470/Is-password-adgjmptw-Researcher-reveals-complex-log-details-easier-crack-thought.html#ixzz3UwrvBrPv
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    What bothers me is those passwords should never have been leaked in the first place.

    Any decent system never stores the password - so it cannot leak even if the software is hacked.


    The key factor in any password security is not caps/numbers/punctuation but LENGTH. Any password of 20 or more letters is pretty well uncrackable.
    And there was me thinking entropy had something to do with it.

    Is it also the case that the earth is shaped like a banana?
    If you have 20 characters then possible combinations (lowercasetextonly) is 26^20 =2 X 10^28. If you have 10 characters (Text0) you have 62^10 = 8 X 10^17 - which is 2.5 X 10^11 times as likely to be cracked.
    But if you use a 20-letter word (as Rees-Mogg might), it becomes much easier to crack.


    Hackers have rainbow tables of dictionary words (and compounds of pairs dictionary words)
    XKCD on password strength
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    It looks like labour falling out with all they celebrity supporters ,story might help labour though.

    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick · 10 mins10 minutes ago
    Saturday's Daily Mirror front page:
    Cheryl's mansion tax row
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Charles said:

    My password is

    "SnowWhiteAndTheSevenDwarfs"

    As I was told my password had to be a minimum of eight characters.

    An IT guy once told me I should make my password as long as possible.

    So now I use TheNeverendingStory
    I thought you were going to say your password was aslongaspossible.
    I do have certain minimum standards, I'll have you know!
  • TheWatcherTheWatcher Posts: 5,262
    edited March 2015

    Police called in over billgate.
    I note that the bill claimed as part of this latest UKIP scandal was £3,150. But...
    ''The original receipt for the event, which Mr Farage and Ukip MP Mark Reckless attended, totalled £950 and was paid with a credit card. This week, however, Ms Hewitt returned to the restaurant to claim an invoice for £3,150.'' (Times)
    It looks like a room hire event was turned into a full blown meal, to be claimed on expenses allowable to the far right grouping UKIP made a point of joining. We see now why they needed to join. I wonder if any other restaurants have been in on the scam. It might be wise to keep quiet if there are because they will be part of a fraud.

    In this case Ms Hewitt is well in the frame so the question is will she be a patsy. From her alleged words this is not the first time they have repatriated money.

    Banks of shredders whirr into life.
  • MP_SEMP_SE Posts: 3,642
    edited March 2015

    Police called in over billgate.
    I note that the bill claimed as part of this latest UKIP scandal was £3,150. But...
    ''The original receipt for the event, which Mr Farage and Ukip MP Mark Reckless attended, totalled £950 and was paid with a credit card. This week, however, Ms Hewitt returned to the restaurant to claim an invoice for £3,150.'' (Times)
    It looks like a room hire event was turned into a full blown meal, to be claimed on expenses allowable to the far right grouping UKIP made a point of joining. We see now why they needed to join. I wonder if any other restaurants have been in on the scam. It might be wise to keep quiet if there are because they will be part of a fraud.

    In this case Ms Hewitt is well in the frame so the question is will she be a patsy. From her alleged words this is not the first time they have repatriated money.

    I have been invivted to events hosted by other parties at the EU taxpayers expense. Justsayin....
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,533

    It looks like labour falling out with all they celebrity supporters ,story might help labour though.

    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick · 10 mins10 minutes ago
    Saturday's Daily Mirror front page:
    Cheryl's mansion tax row
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

    That reminds me of a great quote from another previous X-Factor "star"...

    Dermot O'Leary when asked about his politics - "I suspect that these days I'm politically closest to the Socialist Workers, but they'd take all my money so it's still Labour."
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick ·

    Saturday's Guardian front page:
    Operation ‘Save Cameron’ launched
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

    Can someone tell me what this story is about ?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,043

    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick ·

    Saturday's Guardian front page:
    Operation ‘Save Cameron’ launched
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

    Can someone tell me what this story is about ?

    This is the praetorian guard story?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362
    RobD said:

    Nick Sutton ‏@suttonnick ·

    Saturday's Guardian front page:
    Operation ‘Save Cameron’ launched
    #tomorrowspaperstoday #bbcpapers

    Can someone tell me what this story is about ?

    This is the praetorian guard story?
    Your right.

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/camerons-praetorian-guard-plan-to-save-him-from-post-election-unseating

  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    SMukesh said:

    SMukesh said:

    There is only one man who is hiding at the moment.

    Why did the chicken cross the road?To avoid the TV debates.


    Why did the chicken cross the road?

    To get to Ed's other kitchen.

    If you are going to try telling a joke,make sure it`s atleast a little bit funny.
    You need a stronger password, since the post in your name at 9.31 must be the work of an impostor.

    PS all references to ed "two kitchens" Miliband's second kitchen are inherently funny. Very funny.
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