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edited March 2015 in General

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I understand from those close to UKIP that the well-funded and well-organised Farage campaign is becoming a tad concerned about the personable Will Scobie, the former Mayor of Margate and local councillor who is standing for Labour.

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  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    edited March 2015
    Agreed!

    10-1 in what most of the polling has as a three-way marginal is an insane price.
  • edmundintokyoedmundintokyo Posts: 17,708
    edited March 2015
    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Whatever about the price (and it does seem long but we had a poster on the ground slating Labour's chances recently) surely UKIP have an interest in talking up the other challenger in the hope of keeping the winning post as low as possible?
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    A not-entirely-innocent question: is the view that Labour are odds-on to finish at worst second?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    Despite the Tory lead in last night's YG, Lab retain their slight revival in the "part-ELBOW" for the 9 polls so far this week (with Opinium and the Sunday YG remaining). LDs also edging 8% for the first time in 4 weeks, but Greens lowest since mid-December. And UKIP scoring lowest since August (they've scored 14 or more every week up to this week):

    Lab 33.8
    Con 33.3
    UKIP 13.6
    LD 8.0
    Green 5.7

    Lab lead 0.5% (caveat: still awaiting Opinium and Sunday YG!)
    (cf. 0.0% w/e 15th Mar, 0.3% 8th Mar, 0.7% 1st Mar)
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Interesting Mike.

    You can buy labour on SPIN's spreads @ 5

    That would give you an evens bet on them coming second & 4/1 on them winning.

    Sounds to me like the value is on labour coming second - if you think it's a better than evens chance, then SPINS's bet is value.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Pong said:

    Interesting Mike.

    You can buy labour on SPIN's spreads @ 5

    That would give you an evens bet on them coming second & 4/1 on them winning.

    Sounds to me like the value is on labour coming second - if you think it's a better than evens chance, then SPINS's bet is value.

    You're no fun.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    antifrank said:

    Pong said:

    Interesting Mike.

    You can buy labour on SPIN's spreads @ 5

    That would give you an evens bet on them coming second & 4/1 on them winning.

    Sounds to me like the value is on labour coming second - if you think it's a better than evens chance, then SPINS's bet is value.

    You're no fun.
    lol

    They're holding their price at 5 though - that's despite them telling me I've reached my maximum position. They'll take bets from others but not me. :(
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538

    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...

    UKIP have every interest in portraying this as a Labour/UKIP contest.
  • JEOJEO Posts: 3,656
    It's interesting that Jean-Claude Juncker has come out today to argue for more European integration, just a month or so before the UK general election. Is it possible that he's deliberately trying to boost UKIP in order to prevent the Conservatives coming in and renegotiating EU treaties?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    If anyone can get on w spin pls inbox me I have a couple of moves I think
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    fpt

    Virtually nothing in the news about it but the Guardian's attempt to get Prince Charles' letters to ministers published is hotting up. The supreme court's judgement on whether the government acted illegally in blocking the letters is due next Thursday.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/20/prince-charles-letters-supreme-court-judgment-due

    Admittedly it's the Guardian's own story but the government's defence for not publishing seems outrageous. I thought Dominic Grieve was one of the more sensible Tories but he basically seemed to be saying that publishing would threaten Charles' role as a future king so therefore the correspondence must remain private. Essentially the public must live in ignorance of who their future monarch is because if they knew who he was his position would be in jeopardy.

    In a modern democratic nation that tries not to sensor information - unbelieveable.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    JEO said:

    It's interesting that Jean-Claude Juncker has come out today to argue for more European integration, just a month or so before the UK general election. Is it possible that he's deliberately trying to boost UKIP in order to prevent the Conservatives coming in and renegotiating EU treaties?

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/530051168790413313
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Pong said:

    Interesting Mike.

    You can buy labour on SPIN's spreads @ 5

    That would give you an evens bet on them coming second & 4/1 on them winning.

    Sounds to me like the value is on labour coming second - if you think it's a better than evens chance, then SPINS's bet is value.

    I know. I'm on

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    taffys said:
    And to think of those days of 1997 where every celeb wanted to be seen as a Labour support...now even hardcore from died in the wool Labour supporting backgrounds are muttering discontent.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    I'm not backing Labour here, but I've filled that £135 hole to a fiver.

    Price will come in now it's featured on here.
  • MikeSmithsonMikeSmithson Posts: 7,382
    Sean_F said:

    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...

    UKIP have every interest in portraying this as a Labour/UKIP contest.
    So have Labour

  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @asabenn: If you can't keep up with how many Ukip members have been suspended, bookmark this tumblr http://t.co/iWEVdWUNzV

    @hugorifkind: In belated fairness to Cameron, when somebody gets suspended from UKIP, "fruitcake, loony or closet racist?" is still the question you ask.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Con -23.12
    Lab -5.53
    LD -313.53
    UKIP +36.8

    Fwiw
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Not only Thanet South but also Thurrock !
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    JEO said:

    It's interesting that Jean-Claude Juncker has come out today to argue for more European integration, just a month or so before the UK general election. Is it possible that he's deliberately trying to boost UKIP in order to prevent the Conservatives coming in and renegotiating EU treaties?

    I think the minor business in Greece might be higher in his mind. The Eurozone either integrates, or (at least partially) disintegrates in response.
  • NualaNuala Posts: 4
    Now that Sir Malcolm is stepping down (and I have still not forgiven him) I will be considering the offering of Mr Farage.
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Sean_F said:

    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...

    UKIP have every interest in portraying this as a Labour/UKIP contest.
    Yeah load of cobblers but waste your money if u like. Sort of cr*p gets pushed out by parties. Real msge is almost certain that ukip are behind the tories here so they want to make out lab best placed to beat them.

    As said - cobblers.

    more interesting's the populus poll. Said I had misgivings re the budget. If thats repeated at weekend then its a disaster for tories. Just don't think national debt repayment is a vote winner. People want £££ back in their pocket. We're all used to living with debt. We want to ease off the austerity. Yep you tories put us back in good shape but now's time to get a life.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    surbiton said:

    Not only Thanet South but also Thurrock !

    Labour are far shorter in Thurrock, and it'll be a bad night for them if they can't finish at least second there.
  • As commented below, my first thought is they would say that if the opposite was the case wouldn't they.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,132
    Scott_P said:

    @asabenn: If you can't keep up with how many Ukip members have been suspended, bookmark this tumblr http://t.co/iWEVdWUNzV

    @hugorifkind: In belated fairness to Cameron, when somebody gets suspended from UKIP, "fruitcake, loony or closet racist?" is still the question you ask.

    Seems difficulty handling an expense account might be added to that list.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    edited March 2015

    fpt

    Virtually nothing in the news about it but the Guardian's attempt to get Prince Charles' letters to ministers published is hotting up. The supreme court's judgement on whether the government acted illegally in blocking the letters is due next Thursday.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/20/prince-charles-letters-supreme-court-judgment-due

    Admittedly it's the Guardian's own story but the government's defence for not publishing seems outrageous. I thought Dominic Grieve was one of the more sensible Tories but he basically seemed to be saying that publishing would threaten Charles' role as a future king so therefore the correspondence must remain private. Essentially the public must live in ignorance of who their future monarch is because if they knew who he was his position would be in jeopardy.

    In a modern democratic nation that tries not to sensor information - unbelieveable.

    If this happened in any other country, say Putin's Russia or China or North Korea - we would call it censorship.

    If Prince Charles should not be brought into controversy then he should shut his gob and not enter into anything controversial.

    What is sauce for the goose...................
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Conservatives +6.5 available in South Thanet

    Even money
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Farage to quit before Year End is a decent hedge on UKIP here if you can get it at 11-4 or longer by the way, but I think this market has been pulled and if its up will be 5-2 at the most (Inverse of UKIP T South price)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Sean_F said:

    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...

    UKIP have every interest in portraying this as a Labour/UKIP contest.
    Yeah load of cobblers but waste your money if u like. Sort of cr*p gets pushed out by parties. Real msge is almost certain that ukip are behind the tories here so they want to make out lab best placed to beat them.

    As said - cobblers.

    more interesting's the populus poll. Said I had misgivings re the budget. If thats repeated at weekend then its a disaster for tories. Just don't think national debt repayment is a vote winner. People want £££ back in their pocket. We're all used to living with debt. We want to ease off the austerity. Yep you tories put us back in good shape but now's time to get a life.
    Nonsense - UKIP are deserved favourites here.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    TGOHF said:

    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.

    I am going to guess that "pop strumpet" is not what is listed on her CV
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    surbiton said:

    fpt

    Virtually nothing in the news about it but the Guardian's attempt to get Prince Charles' letters to ministers published is hotting up. The supreme court's judgement on whether the government acted illegally in blocking the letters is due next Thursday.

    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/20/prince-charles-letters-supreme-court-judgment-due

    Admittedly it's the Guardian's own story but the government's defence for not publishing seems outrageous. I thought Dominic Grieve was one of the more sensible Tories but he basically seemed to be saying that publishing would threaten Charles' role as a future king so therefore the correspondence must remain private. Essentially the public must live in ignorance of who their future monarch is because if they knew who he was his position would be in jeopardy.

    In a modern democratic nation that tries not to sensor information - unbelieveable.

    If this happened in any other country, say Putin's Russia or China or North Korea - we would call it censorship.

    If Prince Charles should not be brought into controversy then he should shut his gob and not enter into anything controversial.

    What is sauce for the goose...................
    Guardian must think there is some really juicy stuff in there. Paul Staines has run quite a few stories about Charles having employees working on secondment in government and it not exactly all being above board.

    Just a point...

    "For 10 years, the government, with the support of Charles, has been resisting a freedom of information request by the Guardian to see the letters sent by the prince to ministers in which he sought to change policies."

    So not exactly just the current government who have been doing this, but stupid of Grieve.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Scott_P said:

    TGOHF said:

    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.

    I am going to guess that "pop strumpet" is not what is listed on her CV

    Neither is whiny Geordie catnip - but ...
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
    She should sell her house, pocket a huge profit [ tax free ] and buy a castle. If she has to live in London, then let out the castle and live in a rented property.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    I'd love to know how much money the bookies have taken on Al Murray in this seat.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    TGOHF said:

    Neither is whiny Geordie catnip - but ...

    Not a fan then...
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    Scott_P said:

    TGOHF said:

    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.

    I am going to guess that "pop strumpet" is not what is listed on her CV
    Neither are a number of others things that I wont mention....
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Scott_P said:

    TGOHF said:

    Neither is whiny Geordie catnip - but ...

    Not a fan then...
    Not my kettle of fish - definitely a Triumph Toledo*


    * Very high maintenance for a dull ride.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Sorely tempted to change my username to Pop Strumpet now
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    I had no idea Cheryl even re-married until just now :lol:
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Scott_P said:

    Sorely tempted to change my username to Pop Strumpet now

    You'd have to change avatar as well, of course.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    surbiton said:

    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
    She should sell her house, pocket a huge profit [ tax free ] and buy a castle. If she has to live in London, then let out the castle and live in a rented property.
    I'm not sure about the mansion tax. Firstly the name is a bit of a misnomer since the size and price of property are no longer that well correlated. I'd rather see extra councl tax bands and a land value tax of some kind.

  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Just got off at gospel oak stn, first time back in NW ldn for a while

    First thing I see? Ad for farmers market! Every sat 10-2 at William Ellis school
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    You'd have to change avatar as well, of course.

    To a GIANT rose tattoo perhaps?
  • SmarmeronSmarmeron Posts: 5,099
    @Scott_P
    "Twitter Tart" might be more accurate?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    edited March 2015
    @labourpress: Oh dear. The "How many hours is it since UKIP suspended a candidate?" clock has just been reset to zero: twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/578905705064898560

    Is there a spread market on how many UKIP candidates will be left standing on the day?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    isam said:

    Just got off at gospel oak stn, first time back in NW ldn for a while

    First thing I see? Ad for farmers market! Every sat 10-2 at William Ellis school

    Did you go via Barking or Stratford?
  • PurseybearPurseybear Posts: 766
    Bad bad feeling about the tories from the budget. Nothings changed my misgivings and I'm on them with a fair deal of dosh.

    Did the 2015 budget lose the tories the election?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Did the 2015 budget lose the tories the election?

    No
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    It doesn't surprise me that all these Luuvies are spitting their dummies over Mansion tax tbh. Many, due to the business they are in, have had the advantage of being able to arrange their affairs to be as tax efficient as possible (very sensible IMO), but now somebody is going to whack them for a decent chunk of change based upon properties in London, which often aren't that super special.

    Huge number in the entertainment and media, many would say opinion formers, are going to be hit for having a half decent house in a decent part of London. Where as for example they have been able to shield themselves from paying 50p tax, reduce their tax bill using perfect legal means like paying share dividends to family, and offset of expenses through their service companies.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited March 2015
    Still a colossal under-round on Great Yarmouth by the way. My advice would be to back the Tories with Coral first up though at evens then take the silly 10-3 on UKIP.

    9-2 Labour is ok as well.
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Pulpstar said:

    Farage to quit before Year End is a decent hedge on UKIP here if you can get it at 11-4 or longer by the way, but I think this market has been pulled and if its up will be 5-2 at the most (Inverse of UKIP T South price)

    A you sure you are are not 'confused' there?
    Anyway OGH seems to be shouting 'vote kipper get labour'.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Bad bad feeling about the tories from the budget. Nothings changed my misgivings and I'm on them with a fair deal of dosh.

    Did the 2015 budget lose the tories the election?

    How exactly are you on them, Dave to remain PM, Most seats or majority ?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411

    Pulpstar said:

    Farage to quit before Year End is a decent hedge on UKIP here if you can get it at 11-4 or longer by the way, but I think this market has been pulled and if its up will be 5-2 at the most (Inverse of UKIP T South price)

    A you sure you are are not 'confused' there?
    Anyway OGH seems to be shouting 'vote kipper get labour'.
    What's confused you about that lot ?
  • Farage would be vulnerable to tactical voting.

    At the previous election, Tory voters showed some reluctance to vote tactically, so unless attitudes are different this time around the Labour man in S Thanet cannot expect them to help him over the line.

    Labour voters might be more inclined to vote tactically, but I suspect they would do so more to UKIP's benefit than the Tory candidate.

    Nigel is safe.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    Interesting that the Sun journos being cleared is #1 story on BBC website...Mirror hacking trial, you have to really go hunting to find any mention of it, despite most days there being jaw dropping revelations about the extent of what the Mirror were up to.
  • rural_voterrural_voter Posts: 2,038

    JEO said:

    It's interesting that Jean-Claude Juncker has come out today to argue for more European integration, just a month or so before the UK general election. Is it possible that he's deliberately trying to boost UKIP in order to prevent the Conservatives coming in and renegotiating EU treaties?

    https://twitter.com/Sunil_P2/status/530051168790413313
    Private Eye reports that the UK has agreed to transfer wide-ranging powers over its energy markets to the EU Commission.

    In return, the UK proposal to let EDF (i.e. Electricite de France) build a £16 billion nuke at Hinkley Point (subsidised by electriciy consumers) will not be taken to the Court of Justice for breaching state aid rules.

    If I was a Euro-sceptic MP, I'd be outraged. It seems to give away a huge amount in exchange for a rather minor concession. DECC must have been desperate to save face.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Wasn't she previously also Cheryl Tweedy who was convicted of assaulting a Ladies attendant in a club?
    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633

    Bad bad feeling about the tories from the budget. Nothings changed my misgivings and I'm on them with a fair deal of dosh.

    Did the 2015 budget lose the tories the election?

    Are you Tim Montgomerie ?

    Courage man - and shuffle the cards !
  • FlightpathFlightpath Posts: 4,012
    Pulpstar said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Farage to quit before Year End is a decent hedge on UKIP here if you can get it at 11-4 or longer by the way, but I think this market has been pulled and if its up will be 5-2 at the most (Inverse of UKIP T South price)

    A you sure you are are not 'confused' there?
    Anyway OGH seems to be shouting 'vote kipper get labour'.
    What's confused you about that lot ?
    Ah, I must stop my little jokes about Farage and UKIP. "I spoke to her [Ms Atkinson] after midnight and she said it was all to do with bills and fundraising. I was, frankly, confused by it all." (BBC)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    Plato said:

    Wasn't she previously also Cheryl Tweedy who was convicted of assaulting a Ladies attendant in a club?

    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
    Yes, Cheryl Tweedy of Girls Aloud.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 82,514
    edited March 2015
    Plato said:

    Wasn't she previously also Cheryl Tweedy who was convicted of assaulting a Ladies attendant in a club?

    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
    Some interesting terms and phases were also used while battering the lady..but they WEREN'T racist.
  • Bad bad feeling about the tories from the budget. Nothings changed my misgivings and I'm on them with a fair deal of dosh.

    Did the 2015 budget lose the tories the election?

    No
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    taffys said:
    Who needs democracy anyway? (unless the election result goes the way UNITE) want.

    What has Ed to say about this attack on Democracy?

    Probably as much as he has to say about phone hacking at the Mirror.

    **tumbleweed**

  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    FTSE 6981 trades.....

    is today the day we see 7,000?

  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Following on from this morning's thread, here are the Scottish seats arranged by prices as at today's date:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bygi8eZw-4q1dVo4dE5YRjdtOWs/view?usp=sharing

    Given that only 25 seats are priced for the SNP at 1/2 or shorter, there still seems to be value here if (like me) you believe there is a better than two in three chance that the SNP will get more than 25 seats. The Labour seats where the SNP are priced between 1/2 and 2/1 continue to look worthy of close scrutiny.

    There are, however, only three Scottish seats where the SNP are priced at longer than 2/1: East Renfrewshire, Berwickshire Roxburgh & Selkirk and Orkney & Shetland.

    There are now a huge number of bookies in the Scottish seat markets.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,963
    Good afternoon, everyone.

    Mr. Voter, that sounds bloody ridiculous.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    edited March 2015
    I disagree with Mike's assessment of "Any other Gov't" by the way as defined by Betfair

    1) Labour has NOT ruled out a deal with the SNP. It has ruled out a coalition.

    2) It is such a tight range that SDLP gets Lab + Lib Dem over the line, rather than Lab + Lib Dem.

    3) Even if the SDLP join up with the Lib Dems and Labour they are surely odds against to have a ministrable position.

    4) Greens have ruled out a coalition.

    5) PC have ruled out a coalition by proxy, they can be included in the SNP minority Lab support bloc.

    6) The DUP aren't interested in being in Gov't, at all. It is apple pie for NI in return for minority support for them.

    Not tempted by 7.0 at all.

    Also Labour could possibly get the support of both the DUP and SDLP as minority supporters - that won't happen if the SDLP is in Gov't.
  • On topic
    Farage delivers another seat to Miliband.
    Oh deep joy. Not.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    Scott'n

    "Sorely tempted to change my username to Pop Strumpet now"

    Pop tart.

  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Pulpstar said:

    I disagree with Mike's assessment of "Any other Gov't" by the way as defined by Betfair

    1) Labour has NOT ruled out a deal with the SNP. It has ruled out a coalition.

    2) It is such a tight range that SDLP gets Lab + Lib Dem over the line, rather than Lab + Lib Dem.

    3) Even if the SDLP join up with the Lib Dems and Labour they are surely odds against to have a ministrable position.

    4) Greens have ruled out a coalition.

    5) PC have ruled out a coalition by proxy, they can be included in the SNP minority Lab support bloc.

    6) The DUP aren't interested in being in Gov't, at all. It is apple pie for NI in return for minority support for them.

    Not tempted by 7.0 at all.

    Everything changes at 10pm on may 7th.

    That's when the rhetoric meets the cold hard mathematical reality.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Pong said:

    Pulpstar said:

    I disagree with Mike's assessment of "Any other Gov't" by the way as defined by Betfair

    1) Labour has NOT ruled out a deal with the SNP. It has ruled out a coalition.

    2) It is such a tight range that SDLP gets Lab + Lib Dem over the line, rather than Lab + Lib Dem.

    3) Even if the SDLP join up with the Lib Dems and Labour they are surely odds against to have a ministrable position.

    4) Greens have ruled out a coalition.

    5) PC have ruled out a coalition by proxy, they can be included in the SNP minority Lab support bloc.

    6) The DUP aren't interested in being in Gov't, at all. It is apple pie for NI in return for minority support for them.

    Not tempted by 7.0 at all.

    Everything changes at 10pm on may 7th.

    That's when the rhetoric meets the cold hard mathematical reality.
    What odds do you put on the option as defined by Betfair right now though ?
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    Scott_P said:

    Sorely tempted to change my username to Pop Strumpet now

    You should change your profile picture to that of Ms Cole's tattoo.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Nuala said:

    Now that Sir Malcolm is stepping down (and I have still not forgiven him) I will be considering the offering of Mr Farage.

    What have you not forgiven him for - stepping down or the loose talk that resulted in him stepping down?
  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    Pulpstar said:

    1) Labour has NOT ruled out a deal with the SNP. It has ruled out a coalition.

    We seem to be facing the hilarious prospect of Labour begging the SNP not to support them!

    It's important to understand that there doesn't need to be a deal to support a minority government, there only needs to be the absence of a majority to vote it down. In practice, in a hung parliament where Lab+SNP is over 325, I would expect the SNP to cause as much havoc as possible without actually voting against Labour in a confidence motion, at least for a while.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/next-government

    Unfortunately the "Any other Gov't" at 5000-1 is actually "Any other majority" with Corals.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,975
    Poor audreyanne. She'll be desperate to tell us how she predicted the mansion tax would cost Labour votes. That makes three.

    Cheryl Sol and Mylene.

    And what an articulate trio "I pay a f—ing lot of tax. So I think that I need to have a really well-informed, well-educated opinion.” said Cheryl

    As Sting was heard to mumble "You can take the girl out of Newcastle but you can't take Newcastle out of the girl"
  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,932

    Sean_F said:

    If this is true, why are UKIP blathering it to the person who writes Britain's most-read political blog?

    OTOH it could be a cunning double-bluff...

    UKIP have every interest in portraying this as a Labour/UKIP contest.
    So have Labour

    Yes, saying that you see your main opponent as the third placed party is a common ploy. Getting anti - UKIP voters to back the third placed party would help Farage.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    @Neil What odds would you stick on the SDLP having a ministry in the next parliament.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,041
    I see Unite are threatening a toy and pram moment.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,133
    Pulpstar said:

    @Neil What odds would you stick on the SDLP having a ministry in the next parliament.

    3 MPs out of 323 = roughly 1%?
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @HTScotPol: The Wet Dream Shall Never Die: Paddy Ashdown calls @AlexSalmond's new book "the longest exercise in literary masturbation" in politics
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,538
    Plato said:

    Wasn't she previously also Cheryl Tweedy who was convicted of assaulting a Ladies attendant in a club?

    TGOHF said:

    surbiton said:
    Was Cheryl Cole , pop strumpet and X-factor judge.
    Yes, she smashed her round the head with her shoe (found guilty) while allegedly racially abusing her (not guilty).

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,195
    Roger said:

    Poor audreyanne. She'll be desperate to tell us how she predicted the mansion tax would cost Labour votes. That makes three.

    Cheryl Sol and Mylene.

    And what an articulate trio "I pay a f—ing lot of tax. So I think that I need to have a really well-informed, well-educated opinion.” said Cheryl

    As Sting was heard to mumble "You can take the girl out of Newcastle but you can't take Newcastle out of the girl"

    I didn't realise that Sting knew our Ms Plato!
  • taffystaffys Posts: 9,753
    You should change your profile picture to that of Ms Cole's tattoo.

    The gag is that Ms F-V is anything but a pop strumpet. Her husband's very high profile cheating clearly affected her very deeply, and still does.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Pulpstar said:

    @Neil What odds would you stick on the SDLP having a ministry in the next parliament.

    About zero.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Neil said:

    Pulpstar said:

    @Neil What odds would you stick on the SDLP having a ministry in the next parliament.

    About zero.

    Thanks.
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,706
    7 weeks today we'll know the result. Scary.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    7 weeks today we'll know the result. Scary.

    Or not. Might be weeks of haggling to go
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    RobD said:

    I see Unite are threatening a toy and pram moment.

    It's the Tories that are threatening workers' rights.
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Ha!

    Roger said:

    Poor audreyanne. She'll be desperate to tell us how she predicted the mansion tax would cost Labour votes. That makes three.

    Cheryl Sol and Mylene.

    And what an articulate trio "I pay a f—ing lot of tax. So I think that I need to have a really well-informed, well-educated opinion.” said Cheryl

    As Sting was heard to mumble "You can take the girl out of Newcastle but you can't take Newcastle out of the girl"

    I didn't realise that Sting knew our Ms Plato!
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,411
    Scott_P said:

    7 weeks today we'll know the result. Scary.

    Or not. Might be weeks of haggling to go
    Yes but we'll have all the pieces on the chessboard :)
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    taffys said:

    You should change your profile picture to that of Ms Cole's tattoo.

    The gag is that Ms F-V is anything but a pop strumpet. Her husband's very high profile cheating clearly affected her very deeply, and still does.

    Not the first beard to be "broken hearted"
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