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  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    A few posters, only yesterday, were chiding me for the 'wishful thinking' of my Tory vote forecasts. I hope they are feeling suitably chaste today.

    Yes, Nick Palmer, I'm thinking of you.

    What were you forecasting CR?
    My forecast was this, only yesterday afternoon:

    "..I think the Tories will pull at least 5 points clear of Labour by election day, and I expect slightly more. If you Baxter: Con - 35% , Lab - 29.5%, Lib Dem - 14% and UKIP - 12% then you get Con on 312 seats, 14 short of a majority."

    I stand by that forecast, although I think the seat totals for Con a little too high. I think something more like 295-305 seats.

    This morning we had JackW with a very similar ARSE prediction. We now have an opinion poll showing Con very close to my predicted poll share, and in the lead.

    Yet I have to put up with accusations I'm indulging in 'wishful thinking', and a PB Tory, by some posters, every time I post something that forecasts a Tory win. This is despite the fact I wasn't even planning to vote Conservative until Ed Miliband's speech, am fiercely critical of Cameron, and think the party will fall to pieces within a couple of years of winning GE2015.
    I did say "wishful thinking" but not because of your conclusion, just because you allocated % of UKIP voters to Con but none to Labour.
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,880
    Kentrising Indeed, looks like a solid England win against a decent Scottish team
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,960
    edited November 2014
    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    edited November 2014

    The other day, the Sunday People front page made me swear out loud in surprise.

    Tomorrow's telegraph has managed it as well

    'Father claims Scotland Yard covered up son's murder'

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2wUwbICYAIrhxD.jpg

    Too many "MP's killed my boy" front pages lately.
    It's one thing for the People to have it as a front page, quite another for the Telegraph to do it.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Telegraph has a grim headline, follow up from People story at weekend or adding something new?
  • http://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/humanitarian_campaign_launched_to_stop_labour_s_mansion_tax_1_3809207

    As I've been saying, it's a terrible terrible mistake. EdM has alienated a lot of people who matter.

    Interesting comment about Glenda's Hampstead & Highgate seat now being under threat.

    Reading that article, I think someone needs to ring up the DEC and tell them to forget about Ebola. Clearly the real humanitarian crisis is closer to home in Hampstead.
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    "I rocked
    To the shock
    Of his c*ck"

    W H Auden "The Platonic Blow"

  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    TGOHF said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    TGOHF said:

    HYUFD said:

    James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky · 13m13 minutes ago
    England fans chanting: 'You're just a small town in England'. Scotland fans: 'Jimmy Savile, he's one of your own'

    But Jimmy's mate Cardinal Keith O'Brien ..ll
    Justify your remark.

    In any case, he was Irish.
    Is he the one forced to retire due to groping and sexually assaulting young priests that he was in a position of power over?
    No charges brought - why not ?
    Having just read the wiki entry it's difficult, if taken at face value, to see why not.
    Again, justify your remark.

    Perhaps you wish to take out a private prosecution?
    multiple allegations from multiple complainants, an admission that his sexual conduct was inappropriate, as stated if taken at face value, it's difficult to see why no charges were brought. I would guess it was because the accusers did not raise a specific complaint with the police. Why they didn't is anyone's guess.
    Or they were eccleisiastic offences, but not criminal ones.

    Homosexual acts remain serious offences within the Roman Catholic Church.
    I am interested to hear that the Cardinal is still a Cardinal:

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/revealed-sex-shame-cardinal-keith-3867102

    I do hope that he gets a fair hearing in ecclesiastical court. With the Pope's recent conversion to a more enlightened view of homosexuality he may get a more sympathetic hearing.

    Do the priests/seminary students involve also get tried in these courts? Or are they seen as victims?
    Priests yes, seminarians no, as they haven't received the sacrament of holy orders.

    In fact, anyone can bring a case under Church Law, but it is usually to secure an annulment, or taking an over mighty bishop on for closing a church or seizing parish property.
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    dr_spyn said:

    Telegraph has a grim headline, follow up from People story at weekend or adding something new?

    Better to stay quiet on this issue, as the PB Moderator will probably make his presence felt soon now that it has a wider audience.
    So for the rest of the night, it's goodnight from me.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    I see that Scotland have scored 25% of the goals tonight.

    But as they are only 10% of the country, then they have won when scaled up.

    Another victory for the Scots!
  • Ishmael_XIshmael_X Posts: 3,664
    Tim_B said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
    I was surprised by Jackson's enthusiasm for a film called Free Willy. You'd have thought he could afford to pay for it.

  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312
    When did I become the Voice of Reason on this site?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    Ishmael_X said:

    Tim_B said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
    I was surprised by Jackson's enthusiasm for a film called Free Willy. You'd have thought he could afford to pay for it.

    In Ab Fab free willy was described as a sixties thing
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,709
    edited November 2014
    Speedy said:

    The other day, the Sunday People front page made me swear out loud in surprise.

    Tomorrow's telegraph has managed it as well

    'Father claims Scotland Yard covered up son's murder'

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2wUwbICYAIrhxD.jpg

    Too many "MP's killed my boy" front pages lately.
    It's one thing for the People to have it as a front page, quite another for the Telegraph to do it.
    Not really. All sorts of lurid allegations by damaged and mistaken people have made it into the 'quality' press in recent times, as the late Lord McAlpine would have been able to attest.

  • Ninoinoz said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    TGOHF said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    TGOHF said:

    HYUFD said:

    James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky · 13m13 minutes ago
    England fans chanting: 'You're just a small town in England'. Scotland fans: 'Jimmy Savile, he's one of your own'

    But Jimmy's mate Cardinal Keith O'Brien ..ll
    Justify your remark.

    In any case, he was Irish.
    Is he the one forced to retire due to groping and sexually assaulting young priests that he was in a position of power over?
    No charges brought - why not ?
    Having just read the wiki entry it's difficult, if taken at face value, to see why not.
    Again, justify your remark.

    Perhaps you wish to take out a private prosecution?
    multiple allegations from multiple complainants, an admission that his sexual conduct was inappropriate, as stated if taken at face value, it's difficult to see why no charges were brought. I would guess it was because the accusers did not raise a specific complaint with the police. Why they didn't is anyone's guess.
    Or they were eccleisiastic offences, but not criminal ones.

    Homosexual acts remain serious offences within the Roman Catholic Church.
    I am interested to hear that the Cardinal is still a Cardinal:

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/revealed-sex-shame-cardinal-keith-3867102

    I do hope that he gets a fair hearing in ecclesiastical court. With the Pope's recent conversion to a more enlightened view of homosexuality he may get a more sympathetic hearing.

    Do the priests/seminary students involve also get tried in these courts? Or are they seen as victims?
    Priests yes, seminarians no, as they haven't received the sacrament of holy orders.

    In fact, anyone can bring a case under Church Law, but it is usually to secure an annulment, or taking an over mighty bishop on for closing a church or seizing parish property.
    In many ways more comparable to the General Medical Council than a secular court (although this wasn't always the case.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    isam said:

    AndyJS said:

    Weather for Rochester on Thursday: gloomy without rain. I wonder who that would suit?

    http://www.bbc.com/weather/2639268?day=2

    Under 50% turnout backers!!!

    Please someone smash up the Skybet 5/6.. they even give you an extra 0.5%
    I'm hoping to have info on the postal vote turnout which I'll publish tomorrow. My view is the higher the turnout the bigger the UKIP margin.

    Yes I agree, although my method for working that out, based on the primary returns, isn't 100% rock solid.

    My theory at the time was, given a 50% turnout, there would have to be at least 8000 returns for Cons to stand a chance
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207

    Mr. Owls, reality and reporting are often far apart.

    I'd dispute it as win-win, though. Best case scenario is zero damage for Miliband. He's not going to take any support from the Klass Party, is he?

    I think the majority of voters think the Mansion Tax is a good thing. Didnt a post announcement poll not even have a maj of Con voters supporting it?

    I think Myleene will get little sympathy for not wanting to pay an extra £250 per month out of her massive wealth.

    I stick by my win win comment

    nice try at spin

    however, the blogs and papers today were not good reading for Ed.

    I think you know full well the point she was making re people who were asset rich but cash poor.

    Your other post about the glass of water was typically wide of the mark too.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Tim_B said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Tim_B said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
    I was surprised by Jackson's enthusiasm for a film called Free Willy. You'd have thought he could afford to pay for it.

    In Ab Fab free willy was described as a sixties thing
    Anyone who missed "It was alright in the Seventies" last Saturday, should watch it on 4OD.

    Some jawdropping stuff; and more to come in part 2, covering race and homosexuality.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/it-was-alright-in-the-1970s/on-demand/57436-001/
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,880
    Fox Don't encourage them, next it will be 'we are the 25%!'
  • Floater said:

    Mr. Owls, reality and reporting are often far apart.

    I'd dispute it as win-win, though. Best case scenario is zero damage for Miliband. He's not going to take any support from the Klass Party, is he?

    I think the majority of voters think the Mansion Tax is a good thing. Didnt a post announcement poll not even have a maj of Con voters supporting it?

    I think Myleene will get little sympathy for not wanting to pay an extra £250 per month out of her massive wealth.

    I stick by my win win comment

    nice try at spin

    however, the blogs and papers today were not good reading for Ed.

    I think you know full well the point she was making re people who were asset rich but cash poor.

    Your other post about the glass of water was typically wide of the mark too.
    If people are asset rich and cash poor; then sell said asset and buy a cheaper asset. What makes them so special?

    We are quite happy to hammer people who are asset poor and have some savings through things like the £16,000 cap on savings, after which you get not a penny in benefits.

  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Scotland getting tonked good for Ed

    #desperatestrawclutcher
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Tim_B said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Tim_B said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
    I was surprised by Jackson's enthusiasm for a film called Free Willy. You'd have thought he could afford to pay for it.

    In Ab Fab free willy was described as a sixties thing
    Anyone who missed "It was alright in the Seventies" last Saturday, should watch it on 4OD.

    Some jawdropping stuff; and more to come in part 2, covering race and homosexuality.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/it-was-alright-in-the-1970s/on-demand/57436-001/
    I saw a bit of that.. the Leslie Phillips "Uncle" sitcom... puts the 70s paedophiles into context a bit
  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312

    Speedy said:

    The other day, the Sunday People front page made me swear out loud in surprise.

    Tomorrow's telegraph has managed it as well

    'Father claims Scotland Yard covered up son's murder'

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2wUwbICYAIrhxD.jpg

    Too many "MP's killed my boy" front pages lately.
    It's one thing for the People to have it as a front page, quite another for the Telegraph to do it.
    Not really. All sorts of lurid allegations by damaged and mistaken people have made it into the 'quality' press in recent times, as the late Lord McAlpine would have been able to attest.

    Good point.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    WingsOverSomerset is perhaps the most ludicrous concept ever imagined, but they have jumped the shark tonight

    Scotland lost a football match because they lost the Indyref...

    @Mr_Eugenides: LOL http://t.co/JjGfFyY2fv
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Kudos to all those PB'ers that have noticed all the cold weather in the USA and North America: http://iceagenow.info/2014/11/freezing-single-state/

    From the long term winter forecasts I've seen for the UK, the first cold snap of the winter should be coming in early December, and we should have some really cold spells for us this winter as well. At the end of October, Siberia had snow cover of 14.1 million km2 which was the highest for a great many years. Some very interesting stuff on how this correlates well with a negative North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) that produces cold winters for the UK. Can't wait for it all to come and shut up the AGW crowd yet again. The solar cycle 25 website is good reading too for anyone interested: http://sc25.com/

    Looks like this cycle isn't going to peak until some point into 2015, and it should lay the basis for 2016-2021 worldwide to be much cooler during the 5-6 year down phase of the 11 year solar cycle.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Ofcom Inquiry into cost of TV football, is there an election coming up?



  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,880
    Scott P Yes, Wayne Rooney is the new Longshanks!
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @hunchman

    Does weather have Elliot waves too? ;)

    See you Friday?
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    WOT? No YOU GOV. Is Labour back in the lead??
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,069
    edited November 2014
    Carswell starts jerking on twitter re cammo and Osborne... again.. two links to ukip home in a matter of mins... ban him!!!
  • RogerRoger Posts: 19,972
    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

  • NinoinozNinoinoz Posts: 1,312
    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    TGOHF said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    TGOHF said:

    HYUFD said:

    James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky · 13m13 minutes ago
    England fans chanting: 'You're just a small town in England'. Scotland fans: 'Jimmy Savile, he's one of your own'

    But Jimmy's mate Cardinal Keith O'Brien ..ll
    Justify your remark.

    In any case, he was Irish.
    Is he the one forced to retire due to groping and sexually assaulting young priests that he was in a position of power over?
    No charges brought - why not ?
    Having just read the wiki entry it's difficult, if taken at face value, to see why not.
    Again, justify your remark.

    Perhaps you wish to take out a private prosecution?
    multiple allegations from multiple complainants, an admission that his sexual conduct was inappropriate, as stated if taken at face value, it's difficult to see why no charges were brought. I would guess it was because the accusers did not raise a specific complaint with the police. Why they didn't is anyone's guess.
    Or they were eccleisiastic offences, but not criminal ones.
    Ah, the father Ted defence. I always thought allegations of "groping" where a criminal offence, as in sexual assault, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the law as it relates to young priests allegedly being touched up in the circumstances outlined in the wiki article.
    You, or the alleged victims, are free to take private prosecutions against O'Brien.

    Otherwise, innocent until proven guilty (or not proven, I suppose).

    Not trial by wikipedia, as you seem to think.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Having watched Cameron fail to out UKIP UKIP for years Labour have decided to join in the fun as well. Sigh.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    isam said:

    Tim_B said:

    Ishmael_X said:

    Tim_B said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    It's more natural than this:

    http://www.rte.ie/ten/news/2014/1118/660468-benjy-simpsons/

    Wow, animals are in the news recently

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2838098/Why-seals-having-sex-PENGUINS-Large-mammals-caught-attempting-mate-birds-multiple-occasions.html
    Oddly enough, as there is no evidence that the penguins were male, I can comment on this.

    I suppose this is bestiality.
    Every hole is a goal.

    #justsaying
    Reminds me of the old line about Boyz ii men being a delivery service for Michael Jackson
    I was surprised by Jackson's enthusiasm for a film called Free Willy. You'd have thought he could afford to pay for it.

    In Ab Fab free willy was described as a sixties thing
    Anyone who missed "It was alright in the Seventies" last Saturday, should watch it on 4OD.

    Some jawdropping stuff; and more to come in part 2, covering race and homosexuality.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/it-was-alright-in-the-1970s/on-demand/57436-001/
    I saw a bit of that.. the Leslie Phillips "Uncle" sitcom... puts the 70s paedophiles into context a bit
    Casanova 73!

    Though CI5 recovering a hand grenade from Pamela Stephenson's cleavage was a classic too.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    saddened said:

    TGOHF said:

    saddened said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    TGOHF said:

    HYUFD said:

    James Matthews ‏@jamesmatthewsky · 13m13 minutes ago
    England fans chanting: 'You're just a small town in England'. Scotland fans: 'Jimmy Savile, he's one of your own'

    But Jimmy's mate Cardinal Keith O'Brien ..ll
    Justify your remark.

    In any case, he was Irish.
    Is he the one forced to retire due to groping and sexually assaulting young priests that he was in a position of power over?
    No charges brought - why not ?
    Having just read the wiki entry it's difficult, if taken at face value, to see why not.
    Again, justify your remark.

    Perhaps you wish to take out a private prosecution?
    multiple allegations from multiple complainants, an admission that his sexual conduct was inappropriate, as stated if taken at face value, it's difficult to see why no charges were brought. I would guess it was because the accusers did not raise a specific complaint with the police. Why they didn't is anyone's guess.
    Or they were eccleisiastic offences, but not criminal ones.
    Ah, the father Ted defence. I always thought allegations of "groping" where a criminal offence, as in sexual assault, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge of the law as it relates to young priests allegedly being touched up in the circumstances outlined in the wiki article.
    You, or the alleged victims, are free to take private prosecutions against O'Brien.

    Otherwise, innocent until proven guilty (or not proven, I suppose).

    Not trial by wikipedia, as you seem to think.
    Isnt the Cardinal guilty of homosexuality by his own admission? It's always the ones that shout the loudest...

  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    Was Carswell always this dull?
  • SquareRootSquareRoot Posts: 7,095
    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Yes far better off horsewhipping champagne socialists as long as you exclude those at the top like ED.

    Now if Ed proposed a tax that would and really did hurt him personally then people might take him seriously, but on the other hand even if he did so, no one would take him seriously.. Hes f*cked.
  • compouter2compouter2 Posts: 2,371
    edited November 2014
    Tramadoladingdong! Basiliscious! Lolamendous....we have swingback!
  • Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by two: CON 32%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Neil said:

    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Having watched Cameron fail to out UKIP UKIP for years Labour have decided to join in the fun as well. Sigh.
    Who will be next? Has to be the Greens, right? It would be amusing to see at least.
  • Carswell starts jerking on twitter re cammo and Osborne... again.. two links to ukip home in a matter of mins... ban him!!!

    Another one to join Audrey in the 'ban anyone we disagree with' gang.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Maybe he should try wage protection for the poorest in the country
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    kle4 said:

    Neil said:

    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Having watched Cameron fail to out UKIP UKIP for years Labour have decided to join in the fun as well. Sigh.
    Who will be next? Has to be the Greens, right? It would be amusing to see at least.
    The beauty of having a core vote of about 1% means we never have to chase after populist sentiment.

  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Does weather have Elliot waves too? ;)

    See you Friday?

    It has cycles like everything else. And if this is a Maunder minimum coming up, rather that a Dalton minimum, which I think it is on the broad 300 year cycle, then watch out for much much colder weather ahead over the next 20 years or so.

    Will be there on Friday, can't wait to put a face to your name!

    As for the stockmarkets, everything is rather murky to put it mildly right now. The rally off the October 15 lows has been stronger than I expected - 2 or 3 plausible short term scenarios, but nothing that leaps out of the page to be honest. Medium term I'm bullish for the US - think we're going to see 26,000 on the Dow before this rally is done going into late next year. US Dollar needs to correct lower in the next few months, but once we've got that out of the way we should get an enormous crescendo of capital flow into US Dollar assets, and principally the US stock market as its the only game in town right now. Watch out when the US economy turns down at the beginning of October 2015, as its the only thing holding up the world economy right now. No one should be surprised at the dismal failure of Abenomics in Japan with policy right out of Ed Balls' book, but then again their demographics were always going to consign Abenomics to abject failure.
  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:

    Neil said:

    Ninoinoz said:



    There is a separate issue, but I am restricted by moderation to discuss it.

    It's ok, Nino. We know what you *want* to say. And we still find you cute. Looking forward to Friday!!!
    Do you think that is a real picture of me in the corner?

    You're in for a real shock on Friday.

    In more ways than one.
    Nino, my lust is blind.

    This could be the most unlikeliest friendship since Bob Geldof and Andrew Mitchell

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/pleb-bob-geldof-tells-court-4652429
    Any chance this is why the new band aid song is getting a bit of a pounding from some parts of the media?
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    Will Newsnight ask Yvette if non-EU migration is too high. Or would that be wacist?
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    ITV: Labour's Rochester candidate is fit, but UKIP win bonbon vote in local sweet shop.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091
    Itajai said:

    Will Newsnight ask Yvette if non-EU migration is too high. Or would that be wacist?

    I think she said yes, though she couldn't just say it plainly.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    Only been asked about EU migrants so far.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    Lucy Powell gets her man onto another couple of front pages.

    They are both him getting spanked by Myleene Klass, but hey...
  • hunchman said:

    Kudos to all those PB'ers that have noticed all the cold weather in the USA and North America: http://iceagenow.info/2014/11/freezing-single-state/

    From the long term winter forecasts I've seen for the UK, the first cold snap of the winter should be coming in early December, and we should have some really cold spells for us this winter as well. At the end of October, Siberia had snow cover of 14.1 million km2 which was the highest for a great many years. Some very interesting stuff on how this correlates well with a negative North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) that produces cold winters for the UK. Can't wait for it all to come and shut up the AGW crowd yet again. The solar cycle 25 website is good reading too for anyone interested: http://sc25.com/

    Looks like this cycle isn't going to peak until some point into 2015, and it should lay the basis for 2016-2021 worldwide to be much cooler during the 5-6 year down phase of the 11 year solar cycle.

    Given up on forecasting the next stock market crash? Lol.

    Central England Temperature is very close to setting a new record high for a calendar year. Strangely I haven't seen the "coldists" mention it since the cold month of March 2013. Funny that.
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    edited November 2014
    Itajai said:

    Only been asked about EU migrants so far.

    The elephant in the room is that it's not just immigration from the EU that people worry about.
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721

    Itajai said:

    Only been asked about EU migrants so far.

    The elephant in the room is that it's not just EU immigration that people worry about.
    But that's wacist and so can't be raised.
  • Sun Politics ‏@Sun_Politics

    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by two: CON 32%, LAB 34%, LD 7%, UKIP 15%, GRN 6%

    Greens lose one quarter of their support in a night! Perhaps people heard about the snow in Siberia...
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Talking on Newsnight about EU migration and the effect on wages for the poorest in the country...Isn't Yvette Cooper just saying what I have been saying for about three years on here?
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    edited November 2014
    dr_spyn said:

    Ofcom Inquiry into cost of TV football, is there an election coming up?

    So the TV companies in the UK pay a billion pounds a year and show about 40% of the games.

    NBC signed a 3 year deal for $250 million, about $83 million a year. It shows all the games on its various platforms. That sum was triple the previous deal with Fox. It is widely considered that NBC way overpaid to get it.

    By contrast ESPN pays the NFL over $110 million PER GAME for Monday Night Football.
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    So a Labour luvvie soft pedals on Yvette on the unbiased BBC.

    Plus ça change!
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    edited November 2014
    Itajai said:

    Itajai said:

    Only been asked about EU migrants so far.

    The elephant in the room is that it's not just EU immigration that people worry about.
    But that's wacist and so can't be raised.
    Nobody's talking about the fact that because we have no control over EU immigration, the government has had to increase restrictions on non-EU immigration, often on desirable, much needed immigration from the Commonwealth - Australian nurses, Indian doctors etc.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Neil said:

    kle4 said:

    Neil said:

    Roger said:

    I understand Labour's new ploy is to horsewhip immigrants? It might work but it's not guaranteed. Chances are that the Tories will propose skinning them but everyone knows you can't out UKIP UKIP.

    I think Ed would be better sticking to a left wing agenda.

    Having watched Cameron fail to out UKIP UKIP for years Labour have decided to join in the fun as well. Sigh.
    Who will be next? Has to be the Greens, right? It would be amusing to see at least.
    The beauty of having a core vote of about 1% means we never have to chase after populist sentiment.

    True. I worry for them if they actually achieve 5% or so in a GE, they'll start to feel the pressure to really try to replace the LDs or siphon off more of Labour's former vote, to become a bigger force, and that'll mean chasing after the centre ground like everyone else. I might not think much of many of the Green policies that make the front pages of websites, but at least they can be counted upon to be different more than the others, generally. Stay true and stay pure, Greens.

    And a good night to all.

    Itajai said:

    Only been asked about EU migrants so far.

    The elephant in the room is that it's not just immigration from the EU that people worry about.
    Depends where you live. Non-EU immigration might be a concern of people in my neck of the 'on-the-edge-of-the-shires', but it's a general concern which can be safely put on the backburner most of the time, whereas EU migration is of truly elephantine scale.
  • Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Floater said:
    » show previous quotes
    nice try at spin

    however, the blogs and papers today were not good reading for Ed.

    I think you know full well the point she was making re people who were asset rich but cash poor.

    Your other post about the glass of water was typically wide of the mark too.

    Long may rich celebrities squeal about the Mansion tax its £250 per month FFS

    Tonights YG shows Myleene bounce!!!

    LAB 332 CON 272 LD 18

    EICIPM
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453
    @tnewtondunn: How Guardian reporting Mili v Klass tmrw: 'Ed Miliband took more than 12 hours yesterday to craft a mocking response to the singer Myleene..
  • ItajaiItajai Posts: 721
    If only we were getting the Australian nurses and Indian doctors. Instead we get the Pakistani brides, Somali suicide bombers and Nigerian fraudsters.
  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
    Better than your FTSE -8,000 prediction ;)

  • Anyhoo - Opinium and Ipsos-Mori = The Gold Standard.
  • Scott_PScott_P Posts: 51,453

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    What time does the event run? I think I will be in London for another reason, but I may call past either before or after
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    WOT? No YOU GOV. Is Labour back in the lead??

    Yes
  • Scott_P said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    What time does the event run? I think I will be in London for another reason, but I may call past either before or after
    Usually starts around 6pmish, and the last time I was there, I stayed there until midnightish when Neil, JohnO and I were turfed out.

    Very few people know this, but that was the night JohnO ended up in Bournemouth.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591

    hunchman said:

    Kudos to all those PB'ers that have noticed all the cold weather in the USA and North America: http://iceagenow.info/2014/11/freezing-single-state/

    From the long term winter forecasts I've seen for the UK, the first cold snap of the winter should be coming in early December, and we should have some really cold spells for us this winter as well. At the end of October, Siberia had snow cover of 14.1 million km2 which was the highest for a great many years. Some very interesting stuff on how this correlates well with a negative North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) that produces cold winters for the UK. Can't wait for it all to come and shut up the AGW crowd yet again. The solar cycle 25 website is good reading too for anyone interested: http://sc25.com/

    Looks like this cycle isn't going to peak until some point into 2015, and it should lay the basis for 2016-2021 worldwide to be much cooler during the 5-6 year down phase of the 11 year solar cycle.

    Given up on forecasting the next stock market crash? Lol.

    Central England Temperature is very close to setting a new record high for a calendar year. Strangely I haven't seen the "coldists" mention it since the cold month of March 2013. Funny that.
    It will crash eventually - just not at this point in time. As for the CET, you have to look at world weather in aggregate. Yes we've had some warm weather in a few parts of the world, based on the wild jetstream patterns that we're getting as we enter a mini ice-age but cold weather records are predominant over some warm weather that is being observed. We should be thankful that we've had some warmer weather and not had a couple of very cold summers like they've had in the US for the past couple of summers. Certainly you didn't hear any farmers complaining about the summer that we've just had. As for a CET record, the climate is nowhere near as warm as it was going back to the Holocene warm period or the medieval warm period between 1000 and 1200 AD when they had agriculture on Greenland (no clue in the name?!) and were growing vines up in northern England - haven't you seen some streets called Vine St or the Vineyard in Northern England. They didn't get named by accident with someone's wild imagination did they?!
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    My apologies; I have a clinic that afternoon.

    I do hope to make the Broxtowe victory party though!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    I thought Mtleene had agreed to get the first round in lieu of her MT payment due in summer 2015
  • RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Neil said:

    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
    Better than your FTSE -8,000 prediction ;)

    LOL.

    I trust your AGW predictions are going just as well> No Arctic sea ice by 2014, no snow in winter in the UK by now. Global warming of 1.5C worldwide by now to name but a few.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,624
    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
    Better than your FTSE -8,000 prediction ;)

    LOL.

    I trust your AGW predictions are going just as well> No Arctic sea ice by 2014, no snow in winter in the UK by now. Global warming of 1.5C worldwide by now to name but a few.
    I never made predictions, especially not about the future.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Why have you agreed to buy the first round.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    Just catching up on Daily Politics, and saw the bit on Salmond.

    Love him or hate him, he's one heck of a politician!
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  • NeilNeil Posts: 7,983
    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
    Better than your FTSE -8,000 prediction ;)

    LOL.

    I trust your AGW predictions are going just as well> No Arctic sea ice by 2014, no snow in winter in the UK by now. Global warming of 1.5C worldwide by now to name but a few.
    You'll find no predictions of the kind from me in any of my posts in over 10 years on pbc!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
    No, but I did buy a ticket. Spooky....

    That's the Opinium one? I think that's now recorded for posterity in the wiki list, and I've added it to my list. Thanks for the heads up though.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Is Tim coming to Dirty Dicks?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Why have you agreed to buy the first round.
    I was thinking of the £700 plane ticket to get there!
  • RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
    No, but I did buy a ticket. Spooky....

    That's the Opinium one? I think that's now recorded for posterity in the wiki list, and I've added it to my list. Thanks for the heads up though.
    It is the opinium one.

    Buy more tickets.
  • Tim_BTim_B Posts: 7,669
    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Why have you agreed to buy the first round.
    I was thinking of the £700 plane ticket to get there!
    You could take me as your baggage
  • KentRisingKentRising Posts: 2,917
    edited November 2014
    ITV Meridian: "Fat arse" Reckless comes off the best in the snatched coverage of the latest debate, at the University of Kent. Labour's candidate is solid and she would come second if there was any justice - but she will be beaten by Tolhurst, who's frankly not very good.

    Tolhurst's trying to gain traction by being seen to accuse Cameron of being weak on immigration. Her leaflet was sanctioned by Tory HQ though...

    The latest leaflet is called "Kelly talks" (lol!) and is designed to look "like a popular woman's magazine, carrying light-hearted interviews with the candidate about her hobbies and favourite television shows."

    "It carries no references to the Conservative Party..."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron/11238868/Now-Camerons-by-election-candidate-attacks-his-immigration-record.html
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
    What were LDs on?
  • chestnutchestnut Posts: 7,341
    The YG Named Leader Adjustment

    CON 34 LAB 31

    The YG Named Leader Myleene Klass Bikini Adjustment

    CON 37 LAB 28
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    RobD said:

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
    No, but I did buy a ticket. Spooky....

    That's the Opinium one? I think that's now recorded for posterity in the wiki list, and I've added it to my list. Thanks for the heads up though.
    It is the opinium one.

    Buy more tickets.
    Will probably have to wait until next month, gotta save some $$ in my budget ;)

    Saying that, expect crossover Dec 11th/12th, 18th/19th ;)
  • hunchmanhunchman Posts: 2,591
    Neil said:

    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    hunchman said:

    Neil said:

    @hunchman

    Will be good to see you too. Hopefully a certain Watford fan will be able to join us and update us on his ISA. I'll be the one flirting with Nino in the corner if you cant find me.

    Yes I hope the Watford fan and his ISA is there too. And I'll ask him how his FTSE 8,000 forecast is going!
    Better than your FTSE -8,000 prediction ;)

    LOL.

    I trust your AGW predictions are going just as well> No Arctic sea ice by 2014, no snow in winter in the UK by now. Global warming of 1.5C worldwide by now to name but a few.
    You'll find no predictions of the kind from me in any of my posts in over 10 years on pbc!
    So you're disowning the predictions of Caroline Lucas, Natalie Bennett et al then?!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    RobD said:

    Those planning to attend Dirty Dicks on Friday, let yourselves be known.

    Now

    It appears most of PB will be attending.

    Is attendance not compulsory?
    Hope not, otherwise that'd be bloody expensive!
    Were you in the air today?

    Make sure you add this poll to your spreadsheet.

    Greens were on 5%

    Fieldwork was 14th to 17th of November.

    Sample size was 1,947, off which 1,705 gave a VI.

    They've pulled the tables from their site.
    What were LDs on?
    Also 5%, same as the others too!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,624
    Speedy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Speedy said:

    Mr Crosby, (good article, by the way) that sounds right. Thorpe was also in possession of a number of telegrams (remember them) from Liberal parties up and down the country (one from me, as an Agent and my candidate) ...... there had been frantic phone calls all over the place ..... pointing out that whoever had won the election, Heath had lost it!

    I think there's also a report somewhere that Thorpe was offered the (don't laugh, folks) the post of Home Secretary.

    IMHO that was Clegg's big mistake in 2010; Deputy PM is up there with VPOTUS .... sounds good but generally speaking that's been a dead end ..... whereas if Clegg had insisted on one of the Great Offices he'd have had a "real" job.

    If we have to have a Coalition after May 7th no doubt lessons will have been learned.

    Lesson number one: Never go into a coalition.
    Lesson number two: See lesson number one.

    It's pathetic to think that the LD problem was that Nick Clegg became deputy PM instead of a Cabinet Secretary.
    Voters don't care, even if Clegg became Archbishop, the LD would still have been destroyed.
    If we have a situation - which is not inconceivable - within the next 10 years of:

    Conservatives 275
    Labour 225
    UKIP 100
    SNP 20
    LibDems 20
    Others 10

    Then you'll have coalitions whether you like it or not.

    I suspect political parties which refused to go into coalitions for reasons of idealogical purity, and therefore caused additional elections, would be treated harshly by the electorate.
    So far the only parties that have been treated harshly by the electorate are those who have entered coalitions.
    But I still don't hear your solution. If no party has a majority of seats in the house of commons, they can enact no legislation. Do you want constant elections, where we get the same result again and again. If no party has the 325-odd seats, then there will need to be some sort of arrangement. (As happens in councils up and down the country today, and as happens in countries all over the world.)

    I would also remind you that there is no correlation at all between "government by coalition" and "bad government" worldwide. (Just as there is no correlation between single party rule and good government.)
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,736
    Is Man of Kent allowed in Dirty Dicks?

    Or is he smited from the Liverpool St area
  • Carswell starts jerking on twitter re cammo and Osborne... again.. two links to ukip home in a matter of mins... ban him!!!

    Another one to join Audrey in the 'ban anyone we disagree with' gang.
    People linking to conhome are frowned on here I believe old boy. That's all..
  • SpeedySpeedy Posts: 12,100
    I just saw this one for HYUFD, Scott Walker apparently ruling out running for president in 2016:

    http://fox6now.com/2014/11/16/a-one-on-one-interview-governor-walker-talks-about-his-bald-spot-his-family-and-2016/

    "Governor Walker: “To me, I’m not going to run just because of the pundits or anything else like that. The closer you get to something like that the more you realize — and I say this only half jokingly — that you have to be crazy to want to be president. And anyone who has seen pictures of this president or any of the former presidents can see the before and after. No matter how fit, no matter how young they are, they age pretty rapidly when you look at their hair any everything else involved with it. Whether it’s two years, six years or 20 years from now — because I think of Hillary Clinton. I could run 20 years from now and still be about the same age as the former Secretary of State is right now. The only thing I think someone is sane should want to be president, or should run for president not because they want to be or yearn to be, but because they feel called to. Right now, I still feel called to be the governor of the state of Wisconsin, and I’m going to do the best job I can over the next four years.” "

    Goodnight.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,624
    hunchman said:

    Watch out when the US economy turns down at the beginning of October 2015

    I love wonderfully precise forecasts... the US economy will begin to turn down at the beginning of October 2015. Not "late 2015", nor "autumn 2015", nor even "October 2015", but "the beginning of October 2015"...

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