Just back from very good lunch. I've added EdM’s personal ratings data to the header
A very good lunch and you are back posting by 1430? Clearly different definitions apply in Bedfordshire! A good lunch doesn't normally finish until tea-time it is normally impossible to see a screen let alone post coherently after a very good lunch.
It's ironic that Allegra Stratton on Newsnight last night was saying that, after a torrid week, Ed Miliband had managed to get through the worst of the jitters.
Was that before or after the hard hitting interview with Dapper Laughs?
Just back from very good lunch. I've added EdM’s personal ratings data to the header
Ed's personal ratings are a catastrophe.
Can Labour really go into the election with him leading them? I mean really? That's the one danger for the Tories - Things get soooooooo bad for Ed that he has to go.
Maybe to shore up gains ahead of winter? Also the oil price drops will soon act as an inhibitor to Russia. Let us hope that winter comes soon and the oil price stays low or drops even lower.
" “I am not the architect of the Luxembourgish model,” he told reporters, adding that the Grand Duchy’s tax authority had acted on an “autonomous basis”, with little oversight from the finance minister – a job he also held for much of his time as prime minister. The commission president did concede he was “politically” responsible for the affair.""
So rather than be the rascal who knew what his officials were doing or the incompetent who didn't he's chosen the incompetence defence. In the EU probably the wisest course!
The last few days have seen Cameron dancing a little to the Ukip tune and gaining marginally as a result. Ed's lovesick romance with Europe and being kicked when he's down has meant a marginal decrease in his and Labour's ratings.
Overall, only a tiny change but it's the direction of travel. Ed could come out with "Let's trust the electorate and have a referendum, and a real discussion about immigration," but he won't. So he's locked into a slow death spiral unless something unforeseen crops up. Europe acting sensibly or Ukip imploding.
I was totally wrong: I assumed Ukip would drift down to around 10% and the Eurocrats would mouth sweet nothings. It could still happen but it's looking bad for Labour.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
Yes he really has the worst ratings for an opposition Leader and the Leader of the Govt. Quite remarkable. Still there is (I hope) no sense of panic in Labour.
How on earth can the SNP be on 8% when Scotland is ~ 8% of the population of the UK - that implies 90+% of the vote there.
Of course they cannot . They are in this poll at 58% in Scotland which has 9% of the seats in Westminster so their UK share would be around 5 1/2 % or perhaps 6 % if the turnout were to be much higher in Scotland .
It's ironic that Allegra Stratton on Newsnight last night was saying that, after a torrid week, Ed Miliband had managed to get through the worst of the jitters.
Was that before or after the hard hitting interview with Dapper Laughs?
Stodge wrote: 'The Con-Lab swing on the certain to vote is 2% but on the "All Expressing" it's 3.5% and that makes a huge difference.' etc....
So a reduction in Mili's lead from 10% months ago to around zero now with 6 months to go when historically, polls almost always move towards the Gov. by a few % points is not very bad news?. So much for my belief that here I could escape from the airheads on other forums. This is so scraping the barrel that it is almost admirable. The spiral does not stop here; stop thinking with your heart instead of your head.
Well, it's always nice to be insulted by someone's very first post.
No one knows how the Conservatives' number will move between now and May - might go up, might stay the same, might go down. The polls didn't move toward the last Government thought they did move away from the main Opposition in 2009-10.
Perhaps someone else has borrowed the family brain cell today.
1964 election — Labour failing to win targets in Bristol NW and Reading. The same thing could happen in 6 months' time, except Reading is now split into two seats.
I just don't see how Labour can win with a leader as unpopular as Miliband, and I don't see how they can change perceptions now.
Because we don't elect a PM, we elect 650 MPs.
Nobody wants Miliband as PM, but that doesn't mean we're safe. With UKIP screwing over the Tories, the accidental Labour leader will become the accidental PM.
Leading to a UKIP majority in 2020 (or so their strategy goes).
Kippers have peaked too early - their tanks on Labours lawn have taken out their ally Ed Miliband - their great hope to be relevant in the next parliament - looks like their Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is under threat..
I'm severely pissed off with Russell Brand for telling va yoof not to vote, since it looks like (see the Mori poll for example) the Tories will do better than expected because a lot of people just won't bother to vote. I just tweeted him to this effect and got the following reply: "my message ain't don't vote. My message is revolt." Yeah, right. Knob.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
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Going on the assumption that the smaller parties will be squeezed when the election comes, it's fanciful to suggest that none at all will go back to Labour.
The evidence of the Labour decline has been there for quite a while in the by-election results in Newark;Heywood & Middleton ,opinion poll numbers at R&S; recent local authority by- elections. These all seem to show they are doing no better and probably worse than 2010.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
The difference is that Brown held onto Labour's massive advantage in Scotland. I don't see Ed following that up. Scotland delivered 41 MPs to Labour in 2010, on the current polling that could be in single figures in 2015 and it could wipe 2 points off Labour's GB score. Additionally, whatever his faults, Brown still had a lead on economic competence compared to Dave. A narrow lead, but a lead nonetheless. It was Dave's personal ratings and his strong NHS position that delivered the 307 seats, not economic competence. Ed won't have that either, and it seems that since Dave has pledged to keep NHS spending growing in real terms from 2015 the gap between Con and Lab on the issue has narrowed, plus the Tories have retaken the lead on education after ridding themselves of the personally toxic Gove (though I think he was a good minister and the reforms are necessary, it is clear that he is too toxic to carry into the election in such a high profile position). In addition the Tories are far, far ahead on economic competence, and Dave is 27 points ahead on his personal ratings, and if the economy continues to improve that gap may become wider.
Look at it this way, on 29% Labour have lost as many votes in the centre from their 2010 voters as they have gained on the left from Lib Dems. If Ed continues to chase the leftist vote he may continue to lose centrist votes. Additionally UKIP's appeal to traditional socially conservative WWC Labour voters is something of a wildcard in the North. There is no guarantee they will stick to Labour after years of being told they have nowhere else to go.
@PickardJE: Ironic: Call for Labour unity from New Statesman, which began recent bout of grim introspection: "The Labour front bench must rally round."
Maybe to shore up gains ahead of winter? Also the oil price drops will soon act as an inhibitor to Russia. Let us hope that winter comes soon and the oil price stays low or drops even lower.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
I just don't see how Labour can win with a leader as unpopular as Miliband, and I don't see how they can change perceptions now.
Because we don't elect a PM, we elect 650 MPs.
Nobody wants Miliband as PM, but that doesn't mean we're safe. With UKIP screwing over the Tories, the accidental Labour leader will become the accidental PM.
Leading to a UKIP majority in 2020 (or so their strategy goes).
Kippers have peaked too early - their tanks on Labours lawn have taken out their ally Ed Miliband - their great hope to be relevant in the next parliament - looks like their Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is under threat..
This is reminiscent of
'Ukip just don't get 15% in yougov anymore' from the summer isn't it?
I just don't see how Labour can win with a leader as unpopular as Miliband, and I don't see how they can change perceptions now.
Because we don't elect a PM, we elect 650 MPs.
Nobody wants Miliband as PM, but that doesn't mean we're safe. With UKIP screwing over the Tories, the accidental Labour leader will become the accidental PM.
Leading to a UKIP majority in 2020 (or so their strategy goes).
Kippers have peaked too early - their tanks on Labours lawn have taken out their ally Ed Miliband - their great hope to be relevant in the next parliament - looks like their Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is under threat..
This is reminiscent of
'Ukip just don't get 15% in yougov anymore' from the summer isn't it?
There was a dead cat bounce on the way to single figures.
Feel free to list more because what you have given is a list of, arguably, what the Conservative government has done in the past four years or so. That wasn't the challenge though, was it? The question I asked was what could Cameron and Co say or do to lift their vote share to the high thirties at the GE next May.
I don't think gratitude for past performance will do it on its own and I don't think fear of Labour will be enough either. Either or a combination of both may well lift the Conservatives to maybe 34/35%, but where is that extra 3/4% suggested by Mr. Patrick going to come from?
Mr Eagles, I seek not an argument only enlightenment. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Possible Enlightenment:
A 3-4% movement to the Tories within the 6 month period before an election has been the case in almost every GE when the Tories have been in power. Why? Think about divorce proceedings and alternatives, etc. It is certain to happen. Around 6 months ago Labour were showing 6-9% leads; already this has almost disappeared.
Ashcroft's poll yesterday offers a great insight into the thinking of ex Tory kippers (many say they will return). So the above swing could well be greater than normal.
Even at the moment, 38% think Cameron is doing well. That is additional scope for the additional 3-4%.
Mili is performing worse day by day. In polling when people are reminded that he is leader of Labour, the Tories increase their lead (or reduce deficit) by 3%.
Ignore the synthetic outrage about Nigel Farage envisaging circumstances where he'd prop up Ed Miliband (of course he would if it suited him). The important point here is that any bet on UKIP being in any form of coalition after the election looks likely to be a losing bet.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
Thats right and thats why it is totally bonkers to split the right wing anti labour vote. Even on this performance they could get in, and these numbers are reliant on them doing badly in Scotland. To be honest I expect Labour to do a U turn on EVEL, but not sure it will help now. I think they made a mistake over iScotland result in not going along with Cameron in saying Yes to more devolution but yes to EVEL as well. By saying No to the latter it made them look to be back tracking on the former to the Scots and made them look anti English in England. lose lose.
Who to? There are fewer than 100 Tories in the constituency and so few people willing to stand for them they had to re-run the selection. Going to be tough to fight a ground war with those resources.
I just don't see how Labour can win with a leader as unpopular as Miliband, and I don't see how they can change perceptions now.
Because we don't elect a PM, we elect 650 MPs.
Nobody wants Miliband as PM, but that doesn't mean we're safe. With UKIP screwing over the Tories, the accidental Labour leader will become the accidental PM.
Leading to a UKIP majority in 2020 (or so their strategy goes).
Kippers have peaked too early - their tanks on Labours lawn have taken out their ally Ed Miliband - their great hope to be relevant in the next parliament - looks like their Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is under threat..
This is reminiscent of
'Ukip just don't get 15% in yougov anymore' from the summer isn't it?
It's getting very late in the day now for the UKIP vote to decline.
Maybe to shore up gains ahead of winter? Also the oil price drops will soon act as an inhibitor to Russia. Let us hope that winter comes soon and the oil price stays low or drops even lower.
There's some thought that the Russians are going to really kick-off shortly.
I'm not sure how much credence I give to that but they are also setting up their own SWIFT system, once that's achieved and they've withdrawn from the western financial system so the theory goes they'll be more at liberty to take an even more aggressive stance.
If the above were to come to pass, full blown invasion of the Ukraine or any of the Baltics, heaven forbid, the Tories are nailed on for a majority Govt in May.
There is an excellent tome out called "The Devil's Alliance" by Roger Moorehouse about the M-R pact between 39-41 , didn't end well for either side- Kippers should note.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
Thats right and thats why it is totally bonkers to split the right wing anti labour vote. Even on this performance they could get in, and these numbers are reliant on them doing badly in Scotland. To be honest I expect Labour to do a U turn on EVEL, but not sure it will help now. I think they made a mistake over iScotland result in not going along with Cameron in saying Yes to more devolution but yes to EVEL as well. By saying No to the latter it made them look to be back tracking on the former to the Scots and made them look anti English in England. lose lose.
Talking of which - isn't Hague supposed to be bringing The Vow legislation and EVFEL legislation forwards later this month? Good opportunity to force Labour to vote against EVFEL and plumb new depths in England.
ScottP ---- ''The Labour Party gave you Gordon Brown, and are offering Ed "worse than Foot" Miliband. You also get Ed balls...''
You make a very good point. This has got to be one of the very worst 'Buy One Get One Free' offers ever. BOGOF indeed! Maybe I should email Crosby with the idea.
Maybe to shore up gains ahead of winter? Also the oil price drops will soon act as an inhibitor to Russia. Let us hope that winter comes soon and the oil price stays low or drops even lower.
There's some thought that the Russians are going to really kick-off shortly.
I'm not sure how much credence I give to that but they are also setting up their own SWIFT system, once that's achieved and they've withdrawn from the western financial system so the theory goes they'll be more at liberty to take an even more aggressive stance.
If the above were to come to pass, full blown invasion of the Ukraine or any of the Baltics, heaven forbid, the Tories are nailed on for a majority Govt in May.
There is an excellent tome out called "The Devil's Alliance" by Roger Moorehouse about the M-R pact between 39-41 , didn't end well for either side- Kippers should note.
@tnewtondunn: Farage tells @NewStatesman he'll prop up a minority Ed Mili Govt. This is a gift to Cameron - expect to hear PM repeat daily until May 7.
There is an excellent tome out called "The Devil's Alliance" by Roger Moorehouse about the M-R pact between 39-41 , didn't end well for either side- Kippers should note.
All very Molotov-Ribbentrop isn't it?
Marxists on one side, demagogue leader with interesting views on Romanians on the other - virtually history repeating itself
Amid all the excitement of the accelerating Labour / Ed meltdown, let us not forget bigger things are afoot in the world that will force politicians into actions and directions they may not like (especially if they are lefties):
Japan's debt/GDP is 250% and worsening fast. The only route open to them is to destroy the Yen. Utterly. And therefore the Japanese government bond market. The BoJ has gone 'all in' on MASSIVE quantitative easing. Global government bond markets are going to be ravaged. Deficit funded welfare states wound up sooner rather than later.
All those saying how low will Labour go, IMO they will still scrape 30% at the very worst when the GE comes. Labour still have a large client base (in fact could well be even bigger), which is strongly anti-Tory. Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
It will be a record high for Labour if they can go above the GE % where they lost office. Since at least WW2 Labour have always dropped lower in the GE after losing office. History is against you Francis.
There is an excellent tome out called "The Devil's Alliance" by Roger Moorehouse about the M-R pact between 39-41 , didn't end well for either side- Kippers should note.
All very Molotov-Ribbentrop isn't it?
Marxists on one side, demagogue leader with interesting views on Romanians on the other - virtually history repeating itself
Who to? There are fewer than 100 Tories in the constituency and so few people willing to stand for them they had to re-run the selection. Going to be tough to fight a ground war with those resources.
If UKIP bite disproportionately into his vote, the seat flips to Con...
UKIP have got to address the point about who they would prop up in the event of a minority government .Otherwise they cannot say that they are hopeful of being in a controlling position in a hung parliament which is the main response to the wasted vote argument.Also after the Lib Dem example parties will not be able to avoid answering the question of who they will support and in what circumstances next time. It is a tricky issue but it is not a mistake by Farage to try and answer it because it won't go away for UKIP; the SNP or the Lib Dems.
Amid all the excitement of the accelerating Labour / Ed meltdown, let us not forget bigger things are afoot in the world that will force politicians into actions and directions they may not like (especially if they are lefties):
Japan's debt/GDP is 250% and worsening fast. The only route open to them is to destroy the Yen. Utterly. And therefore the Japanese government bond market. The BoJ has gone 'all in' on MASSIVE quantitative easing. Global government bond markets are going to be ravaged. Deficit funded welfare states wound up sooner rather than later.
No, because most of this debt is internal to Japan, just as ours is to Britain. As a separate consideration, the exchange rate is not a virility symbol; exporting nations (like China and Germany) generally prefer lower rates.
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'Ed’s not dead and the Labour party rulebook will help him stay that way'
http://www.westminsteradvisers.co.uk/2014/11/eds-not-dead-and-the-labour-party-rulebook-will-help-him-stay-that-way/
With Ed at the helm? the floor's the limit...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2P1SrlCMAA8yJA.jpg
Can Labour really go into the election with him leading them? I mean really? That's the one danger for the Tories - Things get soooooooo bad for Ed that he has to go.
Alternatively, Ladbrokes set their SNP seats bar at 20.5 (@5/6)
Both decent bets right now, the ladbrokes one especially.
The last few days have seen Cameron dancing a little to the Ukip tune and gaining marginally as a result. Ed's lovesick romance with Europe and being kicked when he's down has meant a marginal decrease in his and Labour's ratings.
Overall, only a tiny change but it's the direction of travel. Ed could come out with "Let's trust the electorate and have a referendum, and a real discussion about immigration," but he won't. So he's locked into a slow death spiral unless something unforeseen crops up. Europe acting sensibly or Ukip imploding.
I was totally wrong: I assumed Ukip would drift down to around 10% and the Eurocrats would mouth sweet nothings. It could still happen but it's looking bad for Labour.
Gordon Brown gone bonkers, country in meltdown, and still despite polling as low as 24-25%, when the day came he still got 29%.
A bigger question is can the Tories get more than 35%. There isn't a lot of evidence that they can these days.
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http://order-order.com/2014/11/12/miliband-is-least-popular-leader-since-polling-began/
Yes he really has the worst ratings for an opposition Leader and the Leader of the Govt. Quite remarkable. Still there is (I hope) no sense of panic in Labour.
No one knows how the Conservatives' number will move between now and May - might go up, might stay the same, might go down. The polls didn't move toward the last Government thought they did move away from the main Opposition in 2009-10.
Perhaps someone else has borrowed the family brain cell today.
Look at it this way, on 29% Labour have lost as many votes in the centre from their 2010 voters as they have gained on the left from Lib Dems. If Ed continues to chase the leftist vote he may continue to lose centrist votes. Additionally UKIP's appeal to traditional socially conservative WWC Labour voters is something of a wildcard in the North. There is no guarantee they will stick to Labour after years of being told they have nowhere else to go.
@PickardJE: Ironic: Call for Labour unity from New Statesman, which began recent bout of grim introspection: "The Labour front bench must rally round."
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/11/nato-russian-troops-ukraine-now-2014111214105962679.html
Labour 32%, Conservative 31%, UKIP 16%, Others 20%.
Surprised you don't copy some of his tweets on here... Little has changed
'Ukip just don't get 15% in yougov anymore' from the summer isn't it?
Trousering allowances?
Byelection swingback: -1.1% n/c
Hanretty: 2.1% new
Fisher: 3.8% up
2009-2010 repeat: 3.8% down
Prosser: 5.0% n/c
L&N: 11.4% up
Seems Labour decline has resulted in rapid offensive tweeting disease. Luckily it seems very few people follow him.
HurstLlama wrote:
Feel free to list more because what you have given is a list of, arguably, what the Conservative government has done in the past four years or so. That wasn't the challenge though, was it? The question I asked was what could Cameron and Co say or do to lift their vote share to the high thirties at the GE next May.
I don't think gratitude for past performance will do it on its own and I don't think fear of Labour will be enough either. Either or a combination of both may well lift the Conservatives to maybe 34/35%, but where is that extra 3/4% suggested by Mr. Patrick going to come from?
Mr Eagles, I seek not an argument only enlightenment.
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Possible Enlightenment:
A 3-4% movement to the Tories within the 6 month period before an election has been the case in almost every GE when the Tories have been in power. Why? Think about divorce proceedings and alternatives, etc. It is certain to happen. Around 6 months ago Labour were showing 6-9% leads; already this has almost disappeared.
Ashcroft's poll yesterday offers a great insight into the thinking of ex Tory kippers (many say they will return). So the above swing could well be greater than normal.
Even at the moment, 38% think Cameron is doing well. That is additional scope for the additional 3-4%.
Mili is performing worse day by day. In polling when people are reminded that he is leader of Labour, the Tories increase their lead (or reduce deficit) by 3%.
New Statesman @NewStatesman
"I'd do a deal with the devil," Farage tells the NS about a possible Labour-Ukip deal next May - in tomorrow's issue http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/11/nigel-farage-id-do-deal-labour …
Is this an unforced error, as Guido suggests? Or is Farage more concerned at shoring up his new supporters?
Ignore the synthetic outrage about Nigel Farage envisaging circumstances where he'd prop up Ed Miliband (of course he would if it suited him). The important point here is that any bet on UKIP being in any form of coalition after the election looks likely to be a losing bet.
To be honest I expect Labour to do a U turn on EVEL, but not sure it will help now. I think they made a mistake over iScotland result in not going along with Cameron in saying Yes to more devolution but yes to EVEL as well. By saying No to the latter it made them look to be back tracking on the former to the Scots and made them look anti English in England. lose lose.
Identifying the equivalent in 2015 would pay handsome dividends.
Balls has to be worth a punt...
Sooner rather than later...
Maybe he is saying them for use on a smear website.
From the Farage interview.
Maybe they'll move their 2015 Conference forward to January? It's the only way to dislodge Ed...
I'm not sure how much credence I give to that but they are also setting up their own SWIFT system, once that's achieved and they've withdrawn from the western financial system so the theory goes they'll be more at liberty to take an even more aggressive stance.
If the above were to come to pass, full blown invasion of the Ukraine or any of the Baltics, heaven forbid, the Tories are nailed on for a majority Govt in May.
CCHQ Press Office @CCHQPress
Straight from the horse's mouth - @Nigel_Farage confirms it: Vote Ukip, get Labour ...
@MrHarryCole: Serious panic in Farage-land if frantic hassling bordering on abuse from key aide is anything to go by.
Tim Montgomerie @montie
Strategic error. @GuidoFawkes is absolutely right. Silly of @Nigel_Farage to say he might put Ed Miliband in No10
Krishnan Guru-Murthy @krishgm
@montie @GuidoFawkes doesn't it help the "vote UKIP, get a referendum even if the Tories lose" argument?
Guido Fawkes @GuidoFawkes
@krishgm @montie Well Ed ruled that out yesterday as not in the national interest, so it would probably have to be a deal with Yvette.
I can't understand why anyone would think Chuka Ummuna would make an appealing leader.
You make a very good point. This has got to be one of the very worst 'Buy One Get One Free' offers ever. BOGOF indeed!
Maybe I should email Crosby with the idea.
It would have worked out fine if the Germans hadn't broken it. The Russians would never have attacked.
“If Hitler invaded hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons.” – Winston Churchill.
http://www.mauldineconomics.com/ttmygh
Japan's debt/GDP is 250% and worsening fast. The only route open to them is to destroy the Yen. Utterly. And therefore the Japanese government bond market. The BoJ has gone 'all in' on MASSIVE quantitative easing. Global government bond markets are going to be ravaged. Deficit funded welfare states wound up sooner rather than later.
Apart from Stalin. At first he totally refused to believe Barbarossa was happening.