Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
It could equally mean he was going to pay 20bn on December 1st... which he won't do either.
Honestly Rob D - there's bullshit - and then there's abusing the English language...
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
If I may borrow some of tim's political acuity (on the 70% of the time he was peerless in this matter), I would say that Cam should ensure that the footage of the guy running up to him, Cam sidestepping, and the police reacting, should be on constant loop everywhere until May.
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
Mr. CD13, jein. Anyone can self-publish. Getting 'properly'/traditionally published involves a few things (niche, right style of book for the market [grimdark, for example], etc).
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
Err, you kinda implying we won't ever pay it...
You're going to look very silly at some point...
Not my words!
*HERR HERR*
Wrong answer.
Try again and try to apologise to your PM at the same time.
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
Err, you kinda implying we won't ever pay it...
You're going to look very silly at some point...
Not my words!
*HERR HERR*
Wrong answer.
Try again and try to apologise to your PM at the same time.
I'll invite you to check Hansard when it is published :')
Ashcroft National Poll, 24-26 October: CON 31%, LAB 31%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 18%, GRN 5%. Full details on @ConHome, 4pm.
Lovely bloke that Lord A, gawd bless 'im an' 'is marginal polls. Not that Lab/Con level pegging excites me, but it leaves the site's dimmest trolls with nothing to say. Not heard from them for weeks.
Mensch is off again RTing, sorry no it's the broken record himself... LET IT GO!!! You ditched them, not them you, let the bitterness fade and look to a wider world than Tory, Tory, Tory.
Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver So David Cameron is going to hand the EU more cash from British taxpayers. That capitulation didn't take long. Retweeted by Douglas Carswell MP
Sounds like Dave just asked if he could pay in instalments
I'm listening, but didn't catch that. What did he say?
"I WILL NOT BE PAYING 2m EUROS
..... on dec 1st"
Miliband got the better of him there in my opinion.. said that the treasury must have known what was coming, and it should have been no surprise to him.. Cameron just started criticising Balls and Milibands record in the last government
That is hardly him suggesting he'll be paying in installments.
YES IT IS
And he just said "we won't be paying it".. without a time constraint.
Err, you kinda implying we won't ever pay it...
You're going to look very silly at some point...
Not my words!
*HERR HERR*
Wrong answer.
Try again and try to apologise to your PM at the same time.
I'll invite you to check Hansard when it is published :')
Dr. Prasannan, did any of those countries have a referendum this very year about destroying that country? Have any of them embarked upon ill-considered and ever-deepening devolution?
Scotland has one Parliament, and England ought to have the same. Carving it up is the policy of the parochial and the short-sighted.
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn Cameron escalates EU budget row: tells MPs he will never pay £1.7bn or "a sum anything like that". First flat refusal to meet full bill.
John Rentoul ✔ @JohnRentoul Kate Hoey deadly Q aimed at EdM: "The British public are not concerned with who knew what when." They want to know that we won't pay.
Douglas Carswell MP ✔ @DouglasCarswell David Cameron WILL pay the EU bill. Even if he disputes amount. And pays it late. #rollOver
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Mr. Floater, think you may've missed it last thread: are you the chap who wrote An Ever Rolling Stream? Just want to check before sending you some mail.
Hi MD.
I did respond but I think a new thread had started by then.
No, it was not me - my only foray into print was as a contributor to a textbook on Insurance :-)
Dr. Prasannan, did any of those countries have a referendum this very year about destroying that country? Have any of them embarked upon ill-considered and ever-deepening devolution?
Scotland has one Parliament, and England ought to have the same. Carving it up is the policy of the parochial and the short-sighted.
Mr Dancer
The USA is split into 50 states and a capital territory - are they any less American? And around the Commonwealth, India has 29 states and 7 territories, Canada has 13 provinces/territories, Australia has 8 states/territories, S Africa has 9 provinces. Need I go on?
Ashcroft National Poll, 24-26 October: CON 31%, LAB 31%, LDEM 7%, UKIP 18%, GRN 5%. Full details on @ConHome, 4pm.
Lovely bloke that Lord A, gawd bless 'im an' 'is marginal polls. Not that Lab/Con level pegging excites me, but it leaves the site's dimmest trolls with nothing to say. Not heard from them for weeks.
Edited extra bit: Dr. Prasannan, there is a world of difference between designing a system to operate that way (such as the US) or unifying strong regions (Germany) compared to carving up a land that has been unified for over a thousand years.
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
@MikeK "Man" flu is not an illness....Just get on with things you soft sod.
You ignorant lump of cods wallop! I have a very bad flu, developing into Pneumonia if not careful.
If you can post about it, you haven't got it!
Anyway as a Kipper you were probably eligible for a flu-jab! Didn't you have it?
I don't believe in flu vaccine, as the vaccine is for last years variety/ies. But seriously, first time I'm up in 2 days. It's a rotten flu this year. You have been warned.
I would be very, very surprised if this years vaccine was for last years virus. Normal practice is to identify the virus as it moves across from the East. That's why the vaccines are not delivered to surgeries etc until just before the "season" starts.
Case as stated though, sympathies.
That's right.
It's an educated guess as to what the flu virus will look like in any given year, but they make a call around February based on the Asian patterns and then manufacture it for the following winter season in the West.
It's often a close call to have "this years" vaccine ready in time. I seem to recall things going awry at least once and surgeries scrabbling around for enough. It's, or at least was at one time, a very profitable exercise for GP's.
Basically the timelines only work if they make the call on time and then everything goes smoothly in the manufacturing. If there is any scrapage then you can run into problems PDQ.
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
Avast and Belay, Cap'n Doc! England is split into counties, with some big cities. We don't need no stinking regions. Some devolution back down to the counties and cities and shifting power from Whitehall would be a jolly good idea though. Belike.
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
Avast and Belay, Cap'n Doc! England is split into counties, with some big cities. We don't need no stinking regions. Some devolution back down to the counties and cities and shifting power from Whitehall would be a jolly good idea though. Belike.
Avast, Mr Llama! I guess you and Mr Dancer have never heard of the Heptarchy?
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
meow - he's got his hands full with all the tweeting...
Greg Hands ✔ @GregHands Interesting to see @DouglasCarswell in Commons with no question to ask PM on the EU. Continuing long UKIP tradition of non-participation.
@MikeK "Man" flu is not an illness....Just get on with things you soft sod.
You ignorant lump of cods wallop! I have a very bad flu, developing into Pneumonia if not careful.
If you can post about it, you haven't got it!
Anyway as a Kipper you were probably eligible for a flu-jab! Didn't you have it?
I don't believe in flu vaccine, as the vaccine is for last years variety/ies. But seriously, first time I'm up in 2 days. It's a rotten flu this year. You have been warned.
I would be very, very surprised if this years vaccine was for last years virus. Normal practice is to identify the virus as it moves across from the East. That's why the vaccines are not delivered to surgeries etc until just before the "season" starts.
Case as stated though, sympathies.
That's right.
It's an educated guess as to what the flu virus will look like in any given year, but they make a call around February based on the Asian patterns and then manufacture it for the following winter season in the West.
It's often a close call to have "this years" vaccine ready in time. I seem to recall things going awry at least once and surgeries scrabbling around for enough. It's, or at least was at one time, a very profitable exercise for GP's.
Basically the timelines only work if they make the call on time and then everything goes smoothly in the manufacturing. If there is any scrapage then you can run into problems PDQ.
Chris Ship (@chrisshipitv) 27/10/2014 15:54 Helpful as ever, Ken Clarke tells PM: everyone in the Treasury & Foreign Office must have known this was coming along.
Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky) 27/10/2014 15:44 Ed Miliband reveals a letter from Nicky Morgan (then Economic Secretary) 7 months ago saying that Gross National Income would go up
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
Apology accepted.
You will have to flag up when you are talking to someone else but looking at me in future.. you're not boss eyed are you?
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
Avast and Belay, Cap'n Doc! England is split into counties, with some big cities. We don't need no stinking regions. Some devolution back down to the counties and cities and shifting power from Whitehall would be a jolly good idea though. Belike.
Avast, Mr Llama! I guess you and Mr Dancer have never heard of the Heptarchy?
Of course I have heard of the Heptarchy but that existed before England was a unified kingdom, you silly Pirate. It has as much relevance today as Sussex being a separate state (though if that is what is needed to keep us away from the Kentish tribes I am prepared to negotiate).
Dr. Prasannan, I'm more familiar with the tetrarchy. That was an unstable mess that ended up dividing the Roman Empire.
I wonder if the NE vote on a Regional Government would have been different if had been made clear that it was instead of one layer of local Government, not apparently another.
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
Apology accepted.
You will have to flag up when you are talking to someone else but looking at me in future.. you're not boss eyed are you?
Err No. My original comment was to MoK - on of your kippa bruvvas - you butted in. It's not all about you. Having seen how obsessive you are with others on the site you can take this as my final comment.
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
GB is split in to 4 regions. We also have local government. Why do we need more? England has never been a federal country. It is relatively small in land area and does not lend itself to autominous federal regions. England was a whole and homogenous country when various parts 'Germany' were components of the Holy Roman Empire.
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
Apology accepted.
You will have to flag up when you are talking to someone else but looking at me in future.. you're not boss eyed are you?
Err No. My original comment was to MoK - on of your kippa bruvvas - you butted in. It's not all about you. Having seen how obsessive you are with others on the site you can take this as my final comment.
Ill take that as admitting defeat.. you were right to do so x
Mr. Herdson, I concur the empire was largely a mess, but Diocletian's tetrarchy institutionalised division on a permanent basis and was the foundation for the West/East division, in my view.
Mr. Herdson, I concur the empire was largely a mess, but Diocletian's tetrarchy institutionalised division on a permanent basis and was the foundation for the West/East division, in my view.
I think the West/East division was about the Emperor's wanting to have their hols...
The Tetrarchy institutionalised a structure that worked when Diocletian was in charge of it, but didn't really work without his unique talents.
I rather wonder whether we'll say the same about the latest incarnation of the British monarchy a few years after the Queen's glorious reign has been brought to a close.
The Tetrarchy institutionalised a structure that worked when Diocletian was in charge of it, but didn't really work without his unique talents.
I rather wonder whether we'll say the same about the latest incarnation of the British monarchy a few years after the Queen's glorious reign has been brought to a close.
London already has city-regional govt. Why not Greater Manchester etc? What's your problem? It's a great idea
London does not have city regional govt. It has various local authority boroughs and the mayor is basically a glorified transport commissioner. Increasingly local goc=vts are sharing back moffice operations whilst keeping nservices local and in point of fact the govt wants to create a transpennine joined up govt area to mirror London.
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
GB is split in to 4 regions. We also have local government. Why do we need more? England has never been a federal country. It is relatively small in land area and does not lend itself to autominous federal regions. England was a whole and homogenous country when various parts 'Germany' were components of the Holy Roman Empire.
Whole and homogenous? No chance.
The English people spoke back then would have been mutually incomprehensible, as it was until relatively recently. Back in Canute's day - when he was off in other parts of his empire - Mercia, Wessex and Northumbria were essentially ruled by their respective Earls; great swathes of the kingdom were also controlled by the church.
meow - he's got his hands full with all the tweeting...
Greg Hands ✔ @GregHands Interesting to see @DouglasCarswell in Commons with no question to ask PM on the EU. Continuing long UKIP tradition of non-participation.
Isabel Hardman @IsabelHardman Douglas Carswell has left the Chamber, in case you hoped to hear from him. But he has been tweeting a lot about the eventual compromise
Mr. Observer, that was over a thousand years ago. Next you'll be saying we should be split into two English/Welsh regions, because that's what the Romans did.
England has been united for over a thousand years.
Mr. Antifrank, a system that requires a one-off chap in supreme authority is not a stable system.
The monarchy will endure.
I don't think it is fully appreciated just how special the Queen is. She is a quite remarkable woman who has more or less personally invented the idea of the modern monarchy, shaped it in her own image and has tirelessly applied herself to carrying it out.
He revelled in the high-profile role he got from his now famous "100 towns in 100 days" tour
Murphy got f*ck all press or traction until some twat threw an egg at him. He was basically hiding from being asked uncomfortable questions about his expense claims.
One Egg later and a heavily stage managed "brave return" in Edinburgh and he's a modern day martyr and suddenly a political genius.
I've yet to meet a person in the flesh up here in Scotland who thinks Murphy would be a good pick. Of course, I only know filthy Nats who are pretty much begging Labour to select Murphy.
I was at a major GE 2010 debate in Edinburgh where, far from being unflappable, he got very defensive and hostile when queried on his expenses claim - that aspect is still rumbling on
Cameron looking like he has a bad case of wind whilst Miliband sticking a fairly convincing boot in.
Nice to see the kippers supporting their BFF Miliband in the Commons - couldn't be clearer, go to bed with Farage and wake up with Miliband!
Most kippers ( certainly me) criticised Miliband for the Lord Freud nonsense, and acknowledging he did well today... whats wrong with that?
Its called saying it as you see it
Yeah right.
Check the threads..
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
My response was not to you. How about checking that? Ego or what!
Oh sorry, just when you directly responded to something I said I thought you were responding to me
Apology accepted.
Darth Vader: "Apology accepted, Captain Needa!" [after force-choking him to death]
O/T watching the European council debate in Parliament. Who is the Tory MP on the back row in the god awful brown suit? The fashion whips should have a word with him
meow - he's got his hands full with all the tweeting...
Greg Hands ✔ @GregHands Interesting to see @DouglasCarswell in Commons with no question to ask PM on the EU. Continuing long UKIP tradition of non-participation.
Isabel Hardman @IsabelHardman Douglas Carswell has left the Chamber, in case you hoped to hear from him. But he has been tweeting a lot about the eventual compromise
"I have held the PM to account using a medium that he said is for twats"
Mr. Observer, that was over a thousand years ago. Next you'll be saying we should be split into two English/Welsh regions, because that's what the Romans did.
England has been united for over a thousand years.
This is purely about administration of the regions, not their independence!
Dr. Prasannan, once you lay down dividing lines of devolved political power and create different areas of fiscal policy you're laying the foundations for separation. cf Scotland.
Mr. Ajob, as far as I understand, London has transport devolved and the rest of the powers are pretty watery.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Mr Dancer
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
GB is split in to 4 regions. We also have local government. Why do we need more? England has never been a federal country. It is relatively small in land area and does not lend itself to autominous federal regions. England was a whole and homogenous country when various parts 'Germany' were components of the Holy Roman Empire.
Whole and homogenous? No chance.
The English people spoke back then would have been mutually incomprehensible, as it was until relatively recently. Back in Canute's day - when he was off in other parts of his empire - Mercia, Wessex and Northumbria were essentially ruled by their respective Earls; great swathes of the kingdom were also controlled by the church.
Actually I remember seeing a learned prof type about ten years ago pointing out that in the 10th century the various dialects of Anglo Saxon would not only have been intelligible to each other but also to Danish ( well Norse really ) as spoken up North by many at the time. Anglo Saxon had only left its continental Danish neighbours about 500 years before and being pre 1066 there were no Normans and their fancy French vocabulary to get in the way. Indeed the need for a united English/Viking lingua Franca probably accelerated Anglo Saxon's already simplifying grammatical tendencies, helping English rid itself of all those tiresome genders and cases.
Back in the 21st century: dividing up England to "solve" a Scottish Welsh and N Irish question created by the logical irregularities of devolution is a nonsense in my humble view.
"Back in the 21st century: dividing up England to "solve" a Scottish Welsh and N Irish question created by the logical irregularities of devolution is a nonsense in my humble view." - precisely, Mr. Owl.
Mr. Observer, that was over a thousand years ago. Next you'll be saying we should be split into two English/Welsh regions, because that's what the Romans did.
England has been united for over a thousand years.
This is purely about administration of the regions, not their independence!
Mr. Observer, that was over a thousand years ago. Next you'll be saying we should be split into two English/Welsh regions, because that's what the Romans did.
England has been united for over a thousand years.
This is purely about administration of the regions, not their independence!
How about Moffs?
The REGIONAL governors now have direct control of their territories. FEAR will keep the local systems in line!
Dr. Prasannan, once you lay down dividing lines of devolved political power and create different areas of fiscal policy you're laying the foundations for separation. cf Scotland.
No state has a god-given right to exist.
Mr Dancer - in case you forgot, when push came to shove, the Scots rejected separation by 55%/45%.
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Makes him look v good indeed.
You're going to look very silly at some point...
The Lib Dems are ahead of the Greens.
Mr. CD13, jein. Anyone can self-publish. Getting 'properly'/traditionally published involves a few things (niche, right style of book for the market [grimdark, for example], etc).
London already has city-regional govt. Why not Greater Manchester etc? What's your problem? It's a great idea
https://t.co/5DxHoHnGec
Message received. Thanks for the advice, I'll take note.
Grateful for your help.
Wrong answer.
Try again and try to apologise to your PM at the same time.
Mr. CD13, np, and best of luck.
Its called saying it as you see it
Michael Heaver @Michael_Heaver
So David Cameron is going to hand the EU more cash from British taxpayers. That capitulation didn't take long.
Retweeted by Douglas Carswell MP
For the lurkers-
http://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/hansard/
http://www.hansardsociety.org.uk/
France, Germany, Spain and Italy are split into regions. Are the French, Germans, Spaniards and Italians any less French, German, Spanish or Italian?
Scotland has one Parliament, and England ought to have the same. Carving it up is the policy of the parochial and the short-sighted.
I have backed Cameron up when I think he was right and criticised him when I think he was wrong.. same for Miliband.. its all here if you want to check
I've no reason to do anything else, no need for you to rely on Tory soundbites to tell you whats going on, think for yourself
Tom Newton Dunn @tnewtondunn
Cameron escalates EU budget row: tells MPs he will never pay £1.7bn or "a sum anything like that". First flat refusal to meet full bill.
John Rentoul ✔ @JohnRentoul
Kate Hoey deadly Q aimed at EdM: "The British public are not concerned with who knew what when." They want to know that we won't pay.
Douglas Carswell MP ✔ @DouglasCarswell
David Cameron WILL pay the EU bill. Even if he disputes amount. And pays it late. #rollOver
Cons:33
LAB: 30
LD: 6
UKIP: 21
Green: 6
twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/526765724296302592
I did respond but I think a new thread had started by then.
No, it was not me - my only foray into print was as a contributor to a textbook on Insurance :-)
The USA is split into 50 states and a capital territory - are they any less American? And around the Commonwealth, India has 29 states and 7 territories, Canada has 13 provinces/territories, Australia has 8 states/territories, S Africa has 9 provinces. Need I go on?
King Cole, quite right.
Edited extra bit: Dr. Prasannan, there is a world of difference between designing a system to operate that way (such as the US) or unifying strong regions (Germany) compared to carving up a land that has been unified for over a thousand years.
But this news will help a lot:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-27/csl-buys-novartis-flu-vaccine-division/5844108
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptarchy
Greg Hands ✔ @GregHands
Interesting to see @DouglasCarswell in Commons with no question to ask PM on the EU. Continuing long UKIP tradition of non-participation.
Douglas Carswell MP ✔ @DouglasCarswell
@DPJHodges @tnewtondunn Westminster word play. Brussels will get most of the extra money it asked for
Chris Ship (@chrisshipitv)
27/10/2014 15:54
Helpful as ever, Ken Clarke tells PM: everyone in the Treasury & Foreign Office must have known this was coming along.
Sophy Ridge (@SophyRidgeSky)
27/10/2014 15:44
Ed Miliband reveals a letter from Nicky Morgan (then Economic Secretary) 7 months ago saying that Gross National Income would go up
Osborne - Dude
Mr. Herdson, I concur the empire was largely a mess, but Diocletian's tetrarchy institutionalised division on a permanent basis and was the foundation for the West/East division, in my view.
The Lab lead was 4% at the start of the month. It's now 1%. [my estimates]
I may have to bring my forecast of "real" crossover forward from January!
I rather wonder whether we'll say the same about the latest incarnation of the British monarchy a few years after the Queen's glorious reign has been brought to a close.
Increasingly local goc=vts are sharing back moffice operations whilst keeping nservices local and in point of fact the govt wants to create a transpennine joined up govt area to mirror London.
The English people spoke back then would have been mutually incomprehensible, as it was until relatively recently. Back in Canute's day - when he was off in other parts of his empire - Mercia, Wessex and Northumbria were essentially ruled by their respective Earls; great swathes of the kingdom were also controlled by the church.
Isabel Hardman @IsabelHardman
Douglas Carswell has left the Chamber, in case you hoped to hear from him. But he has been tweeting a lot about the eventual compromise
The monarchy will endure.
England has been united for over a thousand years.
This is a link to a Google doc.
It looked valid enough.
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(Although that fucking idiot probably wouldn't'' have a clue what I'm on about)
But you are admittedly doing a good job...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwio208q3jY
Who is the Tory MP on the back row in the god awful brown suit?
The fashion whips should have a word with him
Rock on Carswell.
No state has a god-given right to exist.
Back in the 21st century: dividing up England to "solve" a Scottish Welsh and N Irish question created by the logical irregularities of devolution is a nonsense in my humble view.
I don't clink on Sunil links.
See also etc. etc...
The Winchester Club? Shades of Glyn Edwards and George Cole "Ello Arfur"
17th Aug: 3.0%
24th Aug: 3.6%
31st Aug: 3.8%
7th Sep: 3.3%
14th Sep: 4.6%
21st Sep: 3.6%
28th Sep: 4.4%
5th Oct: 2.9%
12th Oct: 2.6%
19th Oct: 2.4%
26th Oct: 1.1%
Alan Roden @AlanRoden 5 mins5 minutes ago
Source close to Gordon Brown categorically rules out the former PM standing for Scottish Labour leadership.
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