Evening all and just this morning Sean T was telling us he is always correct and I am always wrong.
Now remind me which of the two of us has been predicting YES will win the IndyRef for well over a year?
Stopped clocks etc
Actually yes I will give you this one: looks like you might hacve called it right. I knew it would be tight (hence my warnings) but an actual defeat? Perhaps I never wanted to predict that as it seemed so horrendous.
Kudos to you.
SeanT
I have to go out for a while soon but can I ask you to keep up your pathetic BritNat wailing.
It really is so amusing to read and it will give me a good laugh when I look in later tonight.
I'm just shifting £50,000 out of sterling, so I can make a fat profit, so you may see a little less wailing for the next hour or two.
Don't know what you are doing.
That isn't possible at a sensible rate.. otherwise lots of people would be doing it in £100m GBP clips.
And we have 7/4 (sub 2s) with Bwin, not one of the bookmaking giants admittedly.
Actually, for anyone who absolutely believes the unstoppable momentum narrative, some of the 5/2 available is a steal for a 2 horse race in its closing stages.
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Personally I think he'll be quite pleased. He'll get everything he wants bar the bitter recriminations. He'll be a hero.
People will call him the FATHER of SCOTLAND. I don't think he will care aboiut anything else.
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Personally I think he'll be quite pleased. He'll get everything he wants bar the bitter recriminations. He'll be a hero.
People will call him the FATHER of SCOTLAND. I don't think he will care aboiut anything else.
Absolutely. I believe his ambition has always been to deliver Scotland up to the EU on a platter, and live out his days in a series of well remunerated and impressive sounding EU appointments, but that option may be looking increasingly unlikely and/or unattractive these days. Far better to be the man 'wot won it' for Scotland without actually having to face life out in the cold.
Irvine Welsh @IrvineWelsh 12 secs If I have one regret about this, I just wish poor Maggie was still around to see it happen.
It is most regrettable. It would have been wonderful if she had been able to come and lecture us in Edinburgh on the eve of the vote, as she did in 1997.
Evening all and just this morning Sean T was telling us he is always correct and I am always wrong.
Now remind me which of the two of us has been predicting YES will win the IndyRef for well over a year?
Stopped clocks etc
Actually yes I will give you this one: looks like you might hacve called it right. I knew it would be tight (hence my warnings) but an actual defeat? Perhaps I never wanted to predict that as it seemed so horrendous.
Kudos to you.
SeanT
I have to go out for a while soon but can I ask you to keep up your pathetic BritNat wailing.
It really is so amusing to read and it will give me a good laugh when I look in later tonight.
I'm just shifting £50,000 out of sterling, so I can make a fat profit, so you may see a little less wailing for the next hour or two.
Don't know what you are doing.
Sean, don't think you will be getting Friday's closing rates. It does not work like that. You will be losing more on the spread.
Evening all and just this morning Sean T was telling us he is always correct and I am always wrong.
Now remind me which of the two of us has been predicting YES will win the IndyRef for well over a year?
Stopped clocks etc
Actually yes I will give you this one: looks like you might hacve called it right. I knew it would be tight (hence my warnings) but an actual defeat? Perhaps I never wanted to predict that as it seemed so horrendous.
Kudos to you.
SeanT
I have to go out for a while soon but can I ask you to keep up your pathetic BritNat wailing.
It really is so amusing to read and it will give me a good laugh when I look in later tonight.
I'm just shifting £50,000 out of sterling, so I can make a fat profit, so you may see a little less wailing for the next hour or two.
Don't know what you are doing.
Sean, don't think you will be getting Friday's closing rates. It does not work like that. You will be losing more on the spread.
As an ignorant bystander reading this conversation, can someone explain to me what SeanT has done and how it is meant to work? And why it may not work, if applicable. Many thanks.
Irvine Welsh @IrvineWelsh 12 secs If I have one regret about this, I just wish poor Maggie was still around to see it happen.
It is most regrettable. It would have been wonderful if she had been able to come and lecture us in Edinburgh on the eve of the vote, as she did in 1997.
This is the future of the country. Rather silly you having to use the memory of a dead lady to keep the flame burning. Time to move on?
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Mphm. Basically stolen from the White Paper complete with inviting all sections of Scottish civil society, not just pols, and even including the SNP. And it will be "... with the financial security of staying in the EU ...". Indeed, they may as well have the whole bannock from the original bakers.
Where is the Queen in all this -anyone clever knows the privy council has a lot more power than is generally let on, just what has she to say about her realm being split up (I know that she is to remain Scottish Monarch for the time being, but only in the sense she remains Canada's)? Can she not bang some heads together behind the scenes?
Any intel on the panelbase poll. Could we see two Yes lead polls today?
I do wonder whether YG's methods would be best to provide accurate polling. But having said that momentum has appeared to be with the YES side, so would not surprise me if they were neck and neck. It may well be that some on the Labour left or the militant tendency lot, may be voting for independence purely on the basis of getting away from Tory governments.
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Mphm. Basically stolen from the White Paper complete with inviting all sections of Scottish civil society, not just pols, and even including the SNP. And it will be "... with the financial security of staying in the EU ...". Indeed, they may as well have the whole bannock from the original bakers.
Except not. For a whole ****ing raft of expensive reasons we need not rehearse again. As you well know.
Irvine Welsh @IrvineWelsh 12 secs If I have one regret about this, I just wish poor Maggie was still around to see it happen.
It is most regrettable. It would have been wonderful if she had been able to come and lecture us in Edinburgh on the eve of the vote, as she did in 1997.
This is the future of the country. Rather silly you having to use the memory of a dead lady to keep the flame burning. Time to move on?
Actually, I don't (rather surprisingly perhaps) worry very much about the Iron Lady. But Mr Welsh's mention did bring back memories of 1997 and also of the Sermon on the Mount. However, as far as I am personally concerned her time is history - but at the same time I am gruesomely fascinated by the splendid irony of how SLAB spent so long stoking up the fires round her memory, and then committed suttee on the same pyre.
We should have paid more attention yesterday when Roger said No was going to win.
lol. We need that dark humour in dark times.
It is kind of fitting that this summor of horrors will end with the dissolution of my country. Ah well. At least I'm rich.
I am not rich and the summer will not end with the dissolution of my country, regardless of which way the Scots vote.
Honestly , Mr. T, have you ever thought how you would have been in WWII?
Whether you like it or not, your country is about to end. 300 plus years of history over. It is one of the most extraordinary moments in European history. And we have Dave, Ed and Eck sorting it out. My God.
I'm reluctant to reveal such a gamechanger for No, but I find I'm overcome with unfamiliar compassion for PB Unionists.
Shetland&OrkneyMove @ShetlandOrkney Absolutely fantastic news that The Shetland Times has come out against separation from the UK.Shetland says #NoThanks
i see your sarcasm, but it is intriguing nonetheless. What happens if Shetland demands to stay with England and rUK?
Are they just ignored by Edinburgh?
The Shetland Islands are technically an enclave within the iScotland continental shelf and asd such would have no economic rights in International law and precedent beyond a 12 nautical mile limit - so no oil and gas fields.
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How YouGov did last time there was a referendum. The AV vote in May 2011.
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Actually, for anyone who absolutely believes the unstoppable momentum narrative, some of the 5/2 available is a steal for a 2 horse race in its closing stages.
Any intel on the panelbase poll. Could we see two Yes lead polls today?
Yes 47 (+4)
No 46 (-3)
Don't Know 7 (-1)
Excluding Don't knows:
Yes 51 (+4)
No 49 (-4)
Nick Sutton @suttonnick
Mail on Sunday front page - "Miliband: We'll put guards on Scottish border"