If yes are in the lead in this poll, what price do you think Betfair Yes will go to?
Fairly reliable Twitter rumours saying it's 51% YES - i.e. a lead.
But still: just rumours. Caveat empt and all that.
The odds against secession now look absurdly generous. I think it's just that people can't quite believe it could happen. But it is happening, as things stand.
If yes are in the lead in this poll, what price do you think Betfair Yes will go to?
Fairly reliable Twitter rumours saying it's 51% YES - i.e. a lead.
But still: just rumours. Caveat empt and all that.
The odds against secession now look absurdly generous. I think it's just that people can't quite believe it could happen. But it is happening, as things stand.
Ive banged £570 that I haven't really got on it at 4.5 and 3.9 today so Im hoping for a bit of 2.5 tomorrow morning
@pppolitics 58s It's reported YouGov's poll will show a narrow lead for Scots to vote YES - odds now at shortest ever, 9/4 http://pdy.pr/ju5MzE #indyref
That's not quite true, it was 2/1 last week and also last year at some point.
The trouble is that even if the Labour leader offers Scotland a proper red deal:
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
@pppolitics 58s It's reported YouGov's poll will show a narrow lead for Scots to vote YES - odds now at shortest ever, 9/4 http://pdy.pr/ju5MzE #indyref
I just wonder if this could be a deal changer. 50.001% Yes 49.999% No. 10-20 votes in it overall. Does that really means the end of the Union?
I understand what Cameron and Salmond signed up to. But .........
The trouble is that even if the Labour leader offers Scotland a proper red deal:
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
The deal would have to be offered by all unionist leaders, from Brown to Miliband, Murphy to Clegg, Osborne, Cameron, everyone, and done with humility (as someone else said).
A Federal UK, with virtually all powers entirely devolved.
It's probably too late.
That c*nt Cameron has lost the Union, and those c*nts in Labour made it happen.
Shoot them. I mean shoot them *metaphorically*, of course, but shoot them nonetheless.
What about Scots' representation at Westminster? It's inconceivable that they could remain as they are with devomax. At the same time I can't imagine the Scots being happy with an English parliament that would dominate the UK. The only path to stability would be regional government of some kind similar to say Germany. To be arranged in a couple of weeks? Impossible.
SeanT..in spite of rumours to the contrary you seem to be sadly lacking in the gonad area..
Er, we're losing. I am suggesting ways we could still win.
What are the rest of you doing? Half of you mumbling about nothing, the others refusing really to believe it. A few going on about Clacton, like it really matters compared to the Partition of Britain.
Scotland is about to secede. This renders every other political event of the last forty years, since EU entry, utterly trivial. The after-effects will probably be felt by our grandchildren.
It is also the greatest blow to British prestige since Suez. Indeed I'd say it is the worst in modern history. Nothing compares to losing a third of your own country.
DC seems rather a sensitive soul... will he have the time to carry out his threat?
MJ Maxwell Scott@mmaxwellscott·15 mins Tiny minority of MPs putting their swollen egos ahead of the people they serve is what's 'wrong' with SW1, @DouglasCarswell. Sound familiar?
Douglas Carswell @DouglasCarswell·7 mins .@mmaxwellscott are you trolling me in your capacity as a Conservative parliamentary candidate, or just being yourself?
MJ Maxwell Scott@mmaxwellscott·4 mins @DouglasCarswell trolling is a lazy euphemism for opinion you don't like. I'm just unimpressed by your behaviour and making that known.
Douglas Carswell @DouglasCarswell·1 min .@mmaxwellscott every aggressive tweet you send me will increase the amount of time I will spend in Carshalton campaigning for UKIP
The trouble is that even if the Labour leader offers Scotland a proper red deal:
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
The deal would have to be offered by all unionist leaders, from Brown to Miliband, Murphy to Clegg, Osborne, Cameron, everyone, and done with humility (as someone else said).
A Federal UK, with virtually all powers entirely devolved.
It's probably too late.
That c*nt Cameron has lost the Union, and those c*nts in Labour made it happen.
Shoot them. I mean shoot them *metaphorically*, of course, but shoot them nonetheless.
What about Scots' representation at Westminster? It's inconceivable that they could remain as they are with devomax. At the same time I can't imagine the Scots being happy with an English parliament that would dominate the UK. The only path to stability would be regional government of some kind similar to say Germany. To be arranged in a couple of weeks? Impossible.
Actually if it were a Yes ( we shall see ) what happens to the existing 59 MP's even as of Sep 19th? Effectively they become foreigners in waiting. Why should the burghers of Basingstoke or Bassetlaw take any notice of them any more?
I agree by the way that Devomax would have to have a quid pro quo of less Scottish MP's too.
"The hopeful Ukip MP, wise to his former Conservative colleagues’ campaign style, revealed to his supporters that they had been found asking Clacton locals “what they thought of the local tube service”. The nearest London Underground stop is 50 miles away from the area, leading Carswell to conclude: “I think that tells you what you need to know”.
The Tories admit they had carried out such a survey when asked by HuffPostUK, but a campaigner says: "It was a legitimate question. As Douglas would know, many Clacton residents commute to London." "
It's Miliband not Milliband. The revolting geriatric must be thinking of Milly Dowler.
Quite ..... when trying to win friends and influence people, especially possible future Prime Ministers, it's always a good idea to be able to spell their names correctly.
They are taking this copying ukip routine a bit too far now
Douglas Carswell (@DouglasCarswell) 06/09/2014 19:45 “@John_J_C_Moss: @DouglasCarswell I want to see your traitorous testicles nailed to Clacton pier on 10 October.” <- Chingford Conservatives
He's going to be going around a lot of Tory/UKIP constituencies if his solution to nasty tweets is to campaign against the blue-tweeters..
If I were UKIP high command I'd be even more worried about how much time he's managing to spend on Twitter now than how much time he might spend in other constituencies after the by-election.
It's Miliband not Milliband. The revolting geriatric must be thinking of Milly Dowler.
Quite ..... when trying to win friends and influence people, especially possible future Prime Ministers, it's always a good idea to be able to spell their names correctly.
To be honest I've often wrote Milliband rather than Miliband. The guy is such a pathetic waste of space does it matter how you spell his name? I mean seriously?
Six months into Downing St. with no Scottish MP's and I think David will have far more to worry about than what people are calling him anyway (just as well, will probably be all the names under the sun, LOL)
There's a road south west of Clones Co Monaghan ( Republic ) where you can cross into N Ireland, back into the Republic back into N Ireland and back into the Republic again all in about five miles.
The trouble is that even if the Labour leader offers Scotland a proper red deal:
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
The deal would have to be offered by all unionist leaders, from Brown to Miliband, Murphy to Clegg, Osborne, Cameron, everyone, and done with humility (as someone else said).
A Federal UK, with virtually all powers entirely devolved.
It's probably too late.
That c*nt Cameron has lost the Union, and those c*nts in Labour made it happen.
Shoot them. I mean shoot them *metaphorically*, of course, but shoot them nonetheless.
What about Scots' representation at Westminster? It's inconceivable that they could remain as they are with devomax. At the same time I can't imagine the Scots being happy with an English parliament that would dominate the UK. The only path to stability would be regional government of some kind similar to say Germany. To be arranged in a couple of weeks? Impossible.
Yes, perhaps impossible. But it's the last throw of the dice, so it may as well be thrown. Otherwise we lose.
Promise a deal, in a solemn declaration, that gives Scotland devomax. Force it through the Commons if necessary. This is an emergency.
Cameron and Miliband must, respectively, be staring into an abyss of darkness this evening. Cameron's epitaph sealed, Miliband's party in tatters, and crippled.
They have said they have devomax plans after the referendum. If that's true, I see little to be lost from revealing them and committing to them now. I don't know anyone in Scotland who WANTS their MPs to have a vote on purely English matters -if they did want that, they'd vote No.
What proportion of the referendum vote is likely to be postal? How quickly are postal votes returned? These answers could hold the key to the final no/yes split.
l Lets assume that of an 80% turnout half the votes are postal and the huge majority are returned within a week.The last you Gov poll excluding DK was 53 "no" 47 "yes".If tonights poll is 50:50 then the average of postal votes in the period would be 51.5:48.5.
To get an overall majority the Yes vote on polling day would have to be a 51.5 yes 48.5 a 3% lead.
It is possble that" no" could win the postal vote and "yes" the vote on polling day.
Where is the Queen in all this -anyone clever knows the privy council has a lot more power than is generally let on, just what has she to say about her realm being split up (I know that she is to remain Scottish Monarch for the time being, but only in the sense she remains Canada's)? Can she not bang some heads together behind the scenes?
Where is the Queen in all this -anyone clever knows the privy council has a lot more power than is generally let on, just what has she to say about her realm being split up (I know that she is to remain Scottish Monarch for the time being, but only in the sense she remains Canada's)? Can she not bang some heads together behind the scenes?
If it's the democratic "will" of Scotland to leave the Union then why should she intervene?
I imagine she may play a role in handing Cameron (and Milliband?) a large whisky and a revolver on 19th though?
And falling. Absolutely remarkable what a poll which hasn't even been verified has done. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, and I believe it does. But credible sources aside it's still remarkable that we've seen no numbers but the odds have gone from 4.6 to 3.35 on these rumours. Hope you got plenty in on 4.6 TSE, sadly I wasn't so bold.
And falling. Absolutely remarkable what a poll which hasn't even been verified has done. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, and I believe it does. But credible sources aside it's still remarkable that we've seen no numbers but the odds have gone from 4.6 to 3.35 on these rumours. Hope you got plenty in on 4.6 TSE, sadly I wasn't so bold.
Even if doesn't have Yes ahead, the fact No's lead has gone from 20% to around 5/6% in a month tells you what the trend is.
What proportion of the referendum vote is likely to be postal? How quickly are postal votes returned? These answers could hold the key to the final no/yes split.
l Lets assume that of an 80% turnout half the votes are postal and the huge majority are returned within a week.The last you Gov poll excluding DK was 53 "no" 47 "yes".If tonights poll is 50:50 then the average of postal votes in the period would be 51.5:48.5.
To get an overall majority the Yes vote on polling day would have to be a 51.5 yes 48.5 a 3% lead.
It is possble that" no" could win the postal vote and "yes" the vote on polling day.
From memory about 600K postal votes sent out = about 1/7 of the total electorate of 4.2m (all figures woozy and dependent on final data give the mass registration campaigns). About 1/6 at most. Depends also on how many vote postally or in propria persona.
Labour's proposal to cap rent increases will make Britain’s chronic housing shortage worse and push up costs for tenants, according to an influential think-tank.
The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) said Labour’s pledge to end “excessive” rent increases was a pointless policy that would distort the market and discourage landlords from repairing their properties or renting them out at all.
The trouble is that even if the Labour leader offers Scotland a proper red deal:
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
The deal would have to be offered by all unionist leaders, from Brown to Miliband, Murphy to Clegg, Osborne, Cameron, everyone, and done with humility (as someone else said).
A Federal UK, with virtually all powers entirely devolved.
It's probably too late.
That c*nt Cameron has lost the Union, and those c*nts in Labour made it happen.
Shoot them. I mean shoot them *metaphorically*, of course, but shoot them nonetheless.
What about Scots' representation at Westminster? It's inconceivable that they could remain as they are with devomax. At the same time I can't imagine the Scots being happy with an English parliament that would dominate the UK. The only path to stability would be regional government of some kind similar to say Germany. To be arranged in a couple of weeks? Impossible.
Yes, perhaps impossible. But it's the last throw of the dice, so it may as well be thrown. Otherwise we lose.
Promise a deal, in a solemn declaration, that gives Scotland devomax. Force it through the Commons if necessary. This is an emergency.
Cameron and Miliband must, respectively, be staring into an abyss of darkness this evening. Cameron's epitaph sealed, Miliband's party in tatters, and crippled.
They have said they have devomax plans after the referendum. If that's true, I see little to be lost from revealing them and committing to them now. I don't know anyone in Scotland who WANTS their MPs to have a vote on purely English matters -if they did want that, they'd vote No.
Full marks. And it's insane to poke a stick into the ribs of the West Lothian Question like that. The SNP know, and they don't. Labour and LDs did. Who are the idiots?
If the Sun (Murdoch) and the Daily Record (Trinity Mirror) back the same outcome, that's the one that will win.
More likely, thought, the former will back YES and the latter NO.
As for these bloody poll rumours! The rumours sound professional to me. Half the YESniks really believed Cameron had suppressed a poll showing YES in the lead.
The closer the expected result, the higher the turnout.
Murdoch's talk of being against the establishment and of libertarians and the far left is fork-tongued in the extreme. Look at Fox News. Libertarians, or Randroids as they are also known, are far effing right. Got to admit that Alex Jones did a hilarious shtick though, bellowing "We will NOT relinquish our firearms" at Piers Morgan.
I will be very sad if yes wins and still very much hope the Union can be saved. If yes does win, at the very least there should be no Scottish MPs in the government on the 19th.
As this will likely be a great shock to much of England and Wales I expect many people, myself included, would want the rUK parties to stand up forcefully for our interests. Any party who looks weak on currency union or asset sharing will not be treated kindly whenever an election comes.
If the Sun (Murdoch) and the Daily Record (Trinity Mirror) back the same outcome, that's the one that will win.
More likely, thought, the former will back YES and the latter NO.
As for these bloody poll rumours! The rumours sound professional to me. Half the YESniks really believed Cameron had suppressed a poll showing YES in the lead.
The closer the expected result, the higher the turnout.
Murdoch's talk of being against the establishment and of libertarians and the far left is fork-tongued in the extreme. Look at Fox News. Libertarians, or Randroids as they are also known, are far effing right. Got to admit that Alex Jones did a hilarious shtick though, bellowing "We will NOT relinquish our firearms" at Piers Morgan.
"The IEA is the UK's original free-market think-tank, founded in 1955. Our mission is to improve understanding of the fundamental institutions of a free society by analysing and expounding the role of markets in solving economic and social problems."
Electoral Registration Officers appointed by local councils, the same as in England and Wales. In most of Scotland the person they appoint is the Assessor, similar to the District Valuer down south.
I thought you deplored ethnic cleansing. I suppose the magic word "English" stopped your habitual moralizing against such outrages.
Recent tweet ...
Iain Macwhirter @iainmacwhirter · 5 hrs Saddened to see Gdn's @MichaelWhite citing the Daily Mail as authority when even police say #indyref campaign "overwhelmingly good-natured`"
Where is the Queen in all this -anyone clever knows the privy council has a lot more power than is generally let on, just what has she to say about her realm being split up (I know that she is to remain Scottish Monarch for the time being, but only in the sense she remains Canada's)? Can she not bang some heads together behind the scenes?
If it's the democratic "will" of Scotland to leave the Union then why should she intervene?
I imagine she may play a role in handing Cameron (and Milliband?) a large whisky and a revolver on 19th though?
I'm not suggesting that she storms Edinburgh Castle, merely that she encourages a last ditch attempt to find a mutually beneficial settlement before the country cuts itself in half.
The poll better substantiate the rumours. People are paying big money on a prayer.
A case of "buy on the expectation, sell on the result"? Mid-price for YES at Betfair is currently 3.425, giving implied probablity 29.2%. I guarantee that price will fall, giving a lower implied probability, when the YouGov poll comes out tonight.
The poll will probably say 56-44, something like that, somewhere between the 57-43 where it stuck for a long time and the post-TVD2 53-47. Not much of a story really. It's going to go to the wire. The only thing that could stop that is if YES hit a big banana skin, which it's possible they will. Or if NO summon up the nous to play the bank account deposit protection card.
The poll better substantiate the rumours. People are paying big money on a prayer.
A case of "buy on the expectation, sell on the result"? Mid-price for YES at Betfair is currently 3.425, giving implied probablity 29.2%. I guarantee that price will fall, giving a lower implied probability, when the YouGov poll comes out tonight.
The poll will probably say 56-44, something like that, somewhere between the 57-43 where it stuck for a long time and the post-TVD2 53-47. Not much of a story really. It's going to go to the wire. The only thing that could stop that is if YES hit a big banana skin, which it's possible they will. Or if NO summon up the nous to play the bank account deposit protection card.
Mortgage interest rates. No one seems to hav emention that yet !
Electoral Registration Officers appointed by local councils, the same as in England and Wales. In most of Scotland the person they appoint is the Assessor, similar to the District Valuer down south.
There is a registrar in overall charge for all Scotland. She ordered 120% of ballot papers to be printed months ago, anticipating a high poll. In each of Scotland's 32 local authority areas the Council Chief Executive is the official returning officer though often it is delegated to one of his/her deputies. They are fiercely independent of political interference.
Alistair welcome to the fold. Sadly I fear you are wrong. Twitter is going crazy but the numbers quoted are all with YES in the lead by between 1 and 3.
For anyone outside Scotland trying to suggest a last ditch attempt to save the union, I fear it is too little too late as I said this morning. Blair pressed the starting pistol. Once the runners were out of the traps, there was no going back.
As for the Queen, she is very appropriately where the Queen of Scots can normally be found in August. She was at HER Highland Gathering today at Braemar and this evening she will no doubt be relaxing with a gin and dubonet at Balmoral with the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay. I do wonder if on independence, there will be a move for her to revert to the regnal number of Elizabeth I of Scotland and II of the United Kingdom, which would strictly be the case post breakup.
Electoral Registration Officers appointed by local councils, the same as in England and Wales. In most of Scotland the person they appoint is the Assessor, similar to the District Valuer down south.
There is a registrar in overall charge for all Scotland. She ordered 120% of ballot papers to be printed months ago, anticipating a high poll. In each of Scotland's 32 local authority areas the Council Chief Executive is the official returning officer though often it is delegated to one of his/her deputies. They are fiercely independent of political interference.
Alistair welcome to the fold. Sadly I fear you are wrong. Twitter is going crazy but the numbers quoted are all with YES in the lead by between 1 and 3.
For anyone outside Scotland trying to suggest a last ditch attempt to save the union, I fear it is too little too late as I said this morning. Blair pressed the starting pistol. Once the runners were out of the traps, there was no going back.
As for the Queen, she is very appropriately where the Queen of Scots can normally be found in August. She was at HER Highland Gathering today at Braemar and this evening she will no doubt be relaxing with a gin and dubonet at Balmoral with the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay. I do wonder if on independence, there will be a move for her to revert to the regnal number of Elizabeth I of Scotland and II of the United Kingdom, which would strictly be the case post breakup.
I wasn't enquiring about her geographical whereabouts.
Evening all and just this morning Sean T was telling us he is always correct and I am always wrong.
Now remind me which of the two of us has been predicting YES will win the IndyRef for well over a year?
Stopped clocks etc
Actually yes I will give you this one: looks like you might hacve called it right. I knew it would be tight (hence my warnings) but an actual defeat? Perhaps I never wanted to predict that as it seemed so horrendous.
Kudos to you.
SeanT
I have to go out for a while soon but can I ask you to keep up your pathetic BritNat wailing.
It really is so amusing to read and it will give me a good laugh when I look in later tonight.
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Sadly too little too late. Eck will pounce on this indicating why should Scots accept half the cake when on 19th September they can waken up with the full cake. He wont mention that the contents of the cake may be rancid with maggots!
Personally I think he'll be quite pleased. He'll get everything he wants bar the bitter recriminations. He'll be a hero.
Comments
Alan Roden @AlanRoden 16 mins
So, we're expecting the YouGov poll to show a (very) narrow lead for Yes later. Prepare for Twitter meltdown. #indyref
Rumour, entirely unsubstantiated, that it's 47% Yes, 46% No (and presumably 7% undecided, which seems quite low).
If its 51/49 it must surely go in that region
Ed. Miliband will never be prime minister...
It's reported YouGov's poll will show a narrow lead for Scots to vote YES - odds now at shortest ever, 9/4 http://pdy.pr/ju5MzE #indyref
edit: I assume that's just with PP.
Alex Salmond = Sean Connery
Ed Miliband = Roger Moore
I'm not saying Miliband and Moore are interchangeable, but you get the drift. I don't feel he's the sort of leftie Scots will warm to. Even Gordon probably has more appeal.
Or leave it as is, whereas I'm green on both outcomes
Harry Cole@MrHarryCole·1 min
Some interesting defection chatter in tomorrow's Sun column...
I understand what Cameron and Salmond signed up to. But .........
I still think Spurs will have a great chance of Champs League qualification.
And they didn't exactly relish the terrorists crossing the border at will.
MJ Maxwell Scott@mmaxwellscott·15 mins
Tiny minority of MPs putting their swollen egos ahead of the people they serve is what's 'wrong' with SW1, @DouglasCarswell. Sound familiar?
Douglas Carswell @DouglasCarswell·7 mins
.@mmaxwellscott are you trolling me in your capacity as a Conservative parliamentary candidate, or just being yourself?
MJ Maxwell Scott@mmaxwellscott·4 mins
@DouglasCarswell trolling is a lazy euphemism for opinion you don't like. I'm just unimpressed by your behaviour and making that known.
Douglas Carswell @DouglasCarswell·1 min
.@mmaxwellscott every aggressive tweet you send me will increase the amount of time I will spend in Carshalton campaigning for UKIP
Another menace uncovered?
I agree by the way that Devomax would have to have a quid pro quo of less Scottish MP's too.
The Tories admit they had carried out such a survey when asked by HuffPostUK, but a campaigner says: "It was a legitimate question. As Douglas would know, many Clacton residents commute to London." "
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/5776998?1410023972
John Moss@John_J_C_Moss·10m
@DouglasCarswell @mmaxwellscott I want to see your traitorous testicles nailed to Clacton pier on 10 October.
Tim Shipman@ShippersUnbound·4m
@DouglasCarswell @John_J_C_Moss making new friends, Douglas?
They are taking this copying ukip routine a bit too far now
Douglas Carswell (@DouglasCarswell)
06/09/2014 19:45
“@John_J_C_Moss: @DouglasCarswell I want to see your traitorous testicles nailed to Clacton pier on 10 October.” <- Chingford Conservatives
Six months into Downing St. with no Scottish MP's and I think David will have far more to worry about than what people are calling him anyway (just as well, will probably be all the names under the sun, LOL)
There's a road south west of Clones Co Monaghan ( Republic ) where you can cross into N Ireland, back into the Republic back into N Ireland and back into the Republic again all in about five miles.
Look on the bright side, you are losing 5 million benefit junkies?
l
Lets assume that of an 80% turnout half the votes are postal and the huge majority are returned within a week.The last you Gov poll excluding DK was 53 "no" 47 "yes".If tonights poll is 50:50 then the average of postal votes in the period would be 51.5:48.5.
To get an overall majority the Yes vote on polling day would have to be a 51.5 yes 48.5 a 3% lead.
It is possble that" no" could win the postal vote and "yes" the vote on polling day.
I imagine she may play a role in handing Cameron (and Milliband?) a large whisky and a revolver on 19th though?
Yes I got on.
The Institute of Economic Affairs (IEA) said Labour’s pledge to end “excessive” rent increases was a pointless policy that would distort the market and discourage landlords from repairing their properties or renting them out at all.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11078886/Think-tank-criticises-pointless-Labour-rent-cap-scheme.html
More likely, thought, the former will back YES and the latter NO.
As for these bloody poll rumours! The rumours sound professional to me. Half the YESniks really believed Cameron had suppressed a poll showing YES in the lead.
The closer the expected result, the higher the turnout.
Murdoch's talk of being against the establishment and of libertarians and the far left is fork-tongued in the extreme. Look at Fox News. Libertarians, or Randroids as they are also known, are far effing right. Got to admit that Alex Jones did a hilarious shtick though, bellowing "We will NOT relinquish our firearms" at Piers Morgan.
A case of vote NO to stop Murdoch?
Who controls the electoral rolls in Scotland ?
As this will likely be a great shock to much of England and Wales I expect many people, myself included, would want the rUK parties to stand up forcefully for our interests. Any party who looks weak on currency union or asset sharing will not be treated kindly whenever an election comes.
This think tank?
"The IEA is the UK's original free-market think-tank, founded in 1955. Our mission is to improve understanding of the fundamental institutions of a free society by analysing and expounding the role of markets in solving economic and social problems."
#RUMOURED:
YouGov #IndyRef poll:
YES - 47% (+4)
NO - 46% (-3)
(DK) - 7% (-1)
Britain Elects @britainelects 5m
#RUMOURED:
YouGov #IndyRef poll (excluding DKs):
YES - 51% (+4)
NO - 49% (-4)
Now remind me which of the two of us has been predicting YES will win the IndyRef for well over a year?
Iain Macwhirter @iainmacwhirter · 5 hrs
Saddened to see Gdn's @MichaelWhite citing the Daily Mail as authority when even police say #indyref campaign "overwhelmingly good-natured`"
Mid-price for YES at Betfair is currently 3.425, giving implied probablity 29.2%.
I guarantee that price will fall, giving a lower implied probability, when the YouGov poll comes out tonight.
The poll will probably say 56-44, something like that, somewhere between the 57-43 where it stuck for a long time and the post-TVD2 53-47. Not much of a story really. It's going to go to the wire. The only thing that could stop that is if YES hit a big banana skin, which it's possible they will. Or if NO summon up the nous to play the bank account deposit protection card.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/09/06/Socialist-French-President-Who-Despises-the-Poor-Beaten-by-Le-Pen-in-Latest-Poll
Scots Asians for Yes @SAFI4yes 3h
Fantastic talking to these shopkeepers who were definate no's and now are so passionate about yes @NicolaSturgeon
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw3NgB2IYAAE3oQ.jpg
Alistair welcome to the fold. Sadly I fear you are wrong. Twitter is going crazy but the numbers quoted are all with YES in the lead by between 1 and 3.
For anyone outside Scotland trying to suggest a last ditch attempt to save the union, I fear it is too little too late as I said this morning. Blair pressed the starting pistol. Once the runners were out of the traps, there was no going back.
As for the Queen, she is very appropriately where the Queen of Scots can normally be found in August. She was at HER Highland Gathering today at Braemar and this evening she will no doubt be relaxing with a gin and dubonet at Balmoral with the Duke of Edinburgh and the Duke and Duchess of Rothesay. I do wonder if on independence, there will be a move for her to revert to the regnal number of Elizabeth I of Scotland and II of the United Kingdom, which would strictly be the case post breakup.
Eck has promised them that "curry" will be the new national dish. Served with donner kebab possibly.
I have to go out for a while soon but can I ask you to keep up your pathetic BritNat wailing.
It really is so amusing to read and it will give me a good laugh when I look in later tonight.
Amid growing nervousness among unionists about the prospect of a yes vote on 18 September, an announcement is expected within days on plans to allow people from all parts of Scottish society to decide how to finish the job of devolving powers from London to Holyrood.
A senior government minister close to the Better Together campaign told the Observer: "Watch this space. You can expect something in the next few days." It is understood that there have been intensive cross-party talks in recent days to finalise the plans.
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If I have one regret about this, I just wish poor Maggie was still around to see it happen.
It looks exactly like panic -that's why its good news.
For example saying in the event of a NO vote that there will be spending cuts and tax rises imposed on Scotland from Westminster.
Well blow me down.
Please vote yes Scotland,it won't be fair on England for what you will get out of a No vote.
BREAKING: @SkyNews has just reported that tomorrow's Yougov poll in Sunday Times puts #Yes narrowly ahead
The Sunday Times poll on Scotland will be published at 9.30pm. Stay tuned.