Wow that is one insidious policy guidance. Glad Pickles is squashing it as he should.
Yes - and the government also deserves huge credit for killing off John Prescott's ridiculous and insidious Standards Board, which at one point was trying to claim that Councillors were forbidden from voting on matters on which they'd campaigned for election.
Portsmouth South Mr Hancock appears to have a financial incentive to stand again in 2015.
"... MPs have the right to one month’s pay for every year they were an MP, up to a maximum of six months. As Hancock was elected in 1997 he would be entitled to the full £33,530. The claim can be made by MPs who re-stand for their seat but are not elected to it"
In 1987 Labour MP Willie Hamilton was deselected from his seat in Central Fife after 37 years and contested South Hams in Devon despite it being one of Labour's weakest seats.
Mr. Llama, no, I recall reading lines about it in 8-Bit Theater, I'm afraid.
I did indeed do psychology at university. There was a bit of maths, but mostly statistical stuff (shockingly, I was one of the more informed students, as I have a [rather poor] A-level in maths).
Tish., no matter. When I first came across non-Euclidean Geometry it was one of those parts of the course that I had to get through before I could get on to the interesting stuff (logic and number theory). Now in my approaching dotage I feel drawn back to it. As one gets ever older there is something comfortable in knowing that the angles in a triangle do not have to add up to 180 degrees.
Wow that is one insidious policy guidance. Glad Pickles is squashing it as he should.
Yes - and the government also deserves huge credit for killing off John Prescott's ridiculous and insidious Standards Board, which at one point was trying to claim that Councillors were forbidden from voting on matters on which they'd campaigned for election.
Yes, I had a couple of colleagues who were referred to the Standards board whilst I was a Cllr for in essence disagreeing with the opposition in a slightly banterish fashion.
It may be better if the Lib Dems were to change their namme from Liberal Democrats to Local Democrats. In Sutton where they are very strong it isnt because they are Lib Dems..indeed when talking to a lot of the new intake of councillors you find that they were approached by the Lib Dem leadership to stand because they were representatives of one part of the community. Friends of parks,Church leaders,Voluntary sector etc. Most of them are not political and in fact dont even know what the Lib Dems stand for. They have become marbled into the very fabric of places like Sutton and Eastleigh and even if the polls showed the LDs nationally at 1% they would still win in places like that.
Apparently it was 27 degrees in Perth yesterday. That's Perth, Scotland not Australia.
That's about -2 in celsius. Not bad for the time of year. Is the general assumption that these are terrible polls for the Lib Dems. I can't pretend that I generally enjoy going through all the polling data. On straw that people on ldv have been clinging to is that the polling was done during the Euro elections. Correct.
I think this Ashcroft poll is quite decent for the Lib Dems tbh...
I agree - this poll appears to place them fairly comfortably in the 30-40 seats band at the GE.
Apparently it was 27 degrees in Perth yesterday. That's Perth, Scotland not Australia.
That's about -2 in celsius. Not bad for the time of year. Is the general assumption that these are terrible polls for the Lib Dems. I can't pretend that I generally enjoy going through all the polling data. On straw that people on ldv have been clinging to is that the polling was done during the Euro elections. Correct.
I think this Ashcroft poll is quite decent for the Lib Dems tbh...
I agree - this poll appears to place them fairly comfortably in the 30-40 seats band at the GE.
Shadsy has the Lib Dems at 4-6 in Eastleigh and 8-11 in Torbay btw.
Portsmouth South Mr Hancock appears to have a financial incentive to stand again in 2015.
"... MPs have the right to one month’s pay for every year they were an MP, up to a maximum of six months. As Hancock was elected in 1997 he would be entitled to the full £33,530. The claim can be made by MPs who re-stand for their seat but are not elected to it"
In 1987 Labour MP Willie Hamilton was deselected from his seat in Central Fife after 37 years and contested South Hams in Devon despite it being one of Labour's weakest seats.
That was certainly true but ( and I may be wrong here ) I thought that the rules had been changed and this is not now the case .
I do hope that Mike Hancock contests Portsmouth South next year. It would make it a very fun constituency.
Would the local Lib Dems stand aside for him again as they did last month?
He lost the seat he'd held since 1973, coming a very poor third.
One would think the local LibDems would not be so stupid.
But then again...
Third place wasnt a bad result from a candidate who was mentally unfit to instruct lawyers in his upcoming High Court action. He might have won if he wasnt mentally ill!
I do hope that Mike Hancock contests Portsmouth South next year. It would make it a very fun constituency.
Nailed on Conservative gain under those circumstances
A nailed on Lib Dem loss. Not so sure it would be a certain Conservative win. The dockyard is in that constituency and the Conservative defence policy has not made them many friends in such areas.
One point to consider on this polling: these constituencies show a sizeable UKIP vote. Is this squeezable and if it is, what impact would that squeezing have and in whose favour?
In a quick post below I made the point about the LDs gaining 28 seats in 1997 - on a further look, they did this with a swing of 1% against them. And they have the nerve to complain about FPTP. They polled 17.8% in 1992 and 16.8% in 1997. The LDs did so well because they took advantage of a below the counter electoral pact with Labour. Now in govt for 4 years we see they spend most of their time trying to rubbish the tories and claim anythjing thats good for them. Nope - there is no point to the Libdems.
Nope , there seems to be no point to your posting on here except to give partisan drivel .
Whilst not a Miliband fan, I must confess I find myself warming to his surreal approach to politics.
Doing something, saying he was right to do it, then apologising and saying he was right to do that too was hard to top, but a £5.1bn pledge to provide every Briton with an owl might just do it.
Next up, an extra 27 minutes a day for the self-employed.
He could do better than that. If he pledged to ship the self-employed off to Mars they would enjoy a day nearly 40 minutes longer!
One point to consider on this polling: these constituencies show a sizeable UKIP vote. Is this squeezable and if it is, what impact would that squeezing have and in whose favour?
There are some figures which provide some pointers to that. In the aggregated summary (admittedly a rather rough aggregation, you'd really need to do this at the individual constituency level):
Would definitely NOT vote for (lower figures better, obviously!):
Amongst all voters: Con 44%, Lab 53%, LD 48%, UKIP 55% Amongst UKIP supporters: Con 63%, Lab 75%, LD 74%
Also, amongst UKIP supporters, 20% are satisfied with Cameron as PM, and a further 49% prefer him to Ed M, whereas just 19% prefer Ed.
Those all suggest that any squeezing is likely to benefit the Conservatives, although by how much is debatable.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
One point to consider on this polling: these constituencies show a sizeable UKIP vote. Is this squeezable and if it is, what impact would that squeezing have and in whose favour?
I know this is heresy, but could it not be possible that it might, in some areas, be UKIP that will be doing the squeezing? We have heard a lot on here about how in some constituencies Labour voters might vote Conservative to keep UKIP out (yes, I know, but that is what some people have been saying). Is not as likely that in a constituency where the contest is between UKIP and another party then third or forth party voters maybe persuaded to "lend their votes" to UKIP?
If you're into big explosions and stuff.. be sure to check out the mountain top they are going to blow up in about an hour to build the European Extremely Large Telescope (running out of superlatives for these things now)
Although I think Sir Roderick Floud sounds more like a character in a fantasy novel than an academic.
Here's a classic case of journalists not understanding the issues of what they're writing about:
David Willetts, the Universities Minister, has actually signalled an expansion in numbers by saying he wants to create dozens of new campuses in higher education “cold spots” over the coming years
Of course, Willetts is not disagreeing with Floud. Floud is calling for the number of organisations to be shrunk, not the number of campuses. His argument is that its too dispersed, with too many small organisations trying to do everything, leading to large inefficiencies. That's unrelated to the number of campuses the country has on aggregate.
If you're into big explosions and stuff.. be sure to check out the mountain top they are going to blow up in about an hour to build the European Extremely Large Telescope (running out of superlatives for these things now)
If you're into big explosions and stuff.. be sure to check out the mountain top they are going to blow up in about an hour to build the European Extremely Large Telescope (running out of superlatives for these things now)
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
If you're into big explosions and stuff.. be sure to check out the mountain top they are going to blow up in about an hour to build the European Extremely Large Telescope (running out of superlatives for these things now)
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Where else were they going to source sarin for black flag operations in Syria?
I do hope that Mike Hancock contests Portsmouth South next year. It would make it a very fun constituency.
Would the local Lib Dems stand aside for him again as they did last month?
He lost the seat he'd held since 1973, coming a very poor third.
One would think the local LibDems would not be so stupid.
But then again...
Third place wasnt a bad result from a candidate who was mentally unfit to instruct lawyers in his upcoming High Court action. He might have won if he wasnt mentally ill!
So, you are saying, he was unfit to defend a court case, but he was fit to stand for a responsible public position? Or did his unfitness come into play after the candidate list closed? But should he have then withdrawn, or is it assumed he would get better?
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Who is likely to fare better in the months leading up to the next election, given their respective current starting points: the Lib Dems or the Conservatives?
I'm inclined to start from the assumption that they will do equally well or badly. What do others think?
I'd have thought if the economy does better they'll get less of the credit and if it gets worse they'll get more of the blame.
If it does both (better for some, worse for others) then they'd get less of the credit from some and more of the blame from the rest.
In the latter case if it's the ABs doing better and the rest doing worse then even though nationally that might be bad for Lib, in particular seats where there's a lot of public sector ABs it might make their vote more solid.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
The latter has far more oil than it knows what to do with, and, to it's credit ha used the takings responsibly. I get the impression that the former is walking a tightrope, has been for years, and it's luck is beginning to run out.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
I do hope that Mike Hancock contests Portsmouth South next year. It would make it a very fun constituency.
Would the local Lib Dems stand aside for him again as they did last month?
He lost the seat he'd held since 1973, coming a very poor third.
One would think the local LibDems would not be so stupid.
But then again...
Third place wasnt a bad result from a candidate who was mentally unfit to instruct lawyers in his upcoming High Court action. He might have won if he wasnt mentally ill!
So, you are saying, he was unfit to defend a court case, but he was fit to stand for a responsible public position?
I'm saying nothing of the kind. Presumably it is what he himself, as well as the local Lib Dems who stood aside for him, thought though.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
"I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway..."
You might have a point if only Norway had ever had a policy of Neutrality. It has been a member of NATO since the organisation was founded in 1949. If you are going to gob off about another country at least get your basic facts right.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Norway neutral? Been part of NATO since the late 1940s.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Some PBers were tipping England win at 2.2 a good price to lay at Betfair recently. They were probably right, and it's now 2.02 after a flood of patriotic money all day. Really excellent value in my mind.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Norway neutral? Been part of NATO since the late 1940s.
Exactly, Cap'n Doc, but you know what it is like for some people. "These n words* all look the same to me, can't expect me to tell them apart. 'Course they have a natural sense of rhythm ('that group with the pretty gel with the long hair) and a weakness outside the off stump"
* n word in this context obviously stands for Nordic
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Norway neutral? Been part of NATO since the late 1940s.
Exactly, Cap'n Doc, but you know what it is like for some people. "These n words* all look the same to me, can't expect me to tell them apart. 'Course they have a natural sense of rhythm ('that group with the pretty gel with the long hair) and a weakness outside the off stump"
* n word in this context obviously stands for Nordic
Ahoy Mr. Llama! I think the only neutral countries in that part of the world are Sweden and Finland.
Denmark, Norway and Iceland are all in the NATO brethren of Pirates. Aaaaarrrr!
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Crikey, so being a member of NATO is now being Neutral is it? Norway, Germany and Italy have all been members of NATO for decades.
One point to consider on this polling: these constituencies show a sizeable UKIP vote. Is this squeezable and if it is, what impact would that squeezing have and in whose favour?
Someone on LD voice mentioned that UKIP supporters answered 'would not vote for LD' more heavily than 'would not vote for Con'. So a squeeze favours Con.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Crikey, so being a member of NATO is now being Neutral is it? Norway, Germany and Italy have all been members of NATO for decades.
Good point :-)
I was thinking more of not spending money and not engaging in foreign adventures.
You'd need a microscope for that. :') Telescopes are for observing very big things which are far away!
Ed is a very very very long way from being Credible.....
While there is a Sea of Cleverness on the Moon, there is not one for Credibility. There is, though, a crater called Cameron - that's how out of touch he is!
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Crikey, so being a member of NATO is now being Neutral is it? Norway, Germany and Italy have all been members of NATO for decades.
And Japan has been an official "global partner" of NATO since 1990
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Norway neutral? Been part of NATO since the late 1940s.
Exactly, Cap'n Doc, but you know what it is like for some people. "These n words* all look the same to me, can't expect me to tell them apart. 'Course they have a natural sense of rhythm ('that group with the pretty gel with the long hair) and a weakness outside the off stump"
* n word in this context obviously stands for Nordic
Ahoy Mr. Llama! I think the only neutral countries in that part of the world are Sweden and Finland.
Denmark, Norway and Iceland are all in the NATO brethren of Pirates. Aaaaarrrr!
Belay that, Cap'n, else you'll confuse young RCS1000 who seems to think that membership of NATO = neutrality (but only for some members).
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Crikey, so being a member of NATO is now being Neutral is it? Norway, Germany and Italy have all been members of NATO for decades.
Good point :-)
I was thinking more of not spending money and not engaging in foreign adventures.
There's a German contingent in ISAF (Afghanistan) currently some 2,700 strong, and Italy has 2,000.
"1632 Isis has seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal"
Is this the WMD Saddam didn't have and couldn't be found when we invaded?!?
It looks very much that the US military knew of this cache of chemical weapons and where it was stored. If they were so worried about this stuff ( a form of Sarin gas I believe) why the hell didn't they destroy the stuff when they had the chance?
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Another good reason for UK to stay with the EU rather than becoming involved with some mid-Atlantic grouping, governed by the US!
I don't think one is obliged to ally oneself with anyone.
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
Norway got invaded by the Nazis did they not?
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
Presumably, the Germans and the Italians and the Japanese and the Finns - all of whom have been essentially neutral since WW2 - are equally guilty.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
Crikey, so being a member of NATO is now being Neutral is it? Norway, Germany and Italy have all been members of NATO for decades.
Good point :-)
I was thinking more of not spending money and not engaging in foreign adventures.
Germany, Italy and Norway deployed troops to ISAF in Afghanistan and, at least the last two, took casualties there. Best bet, mate, is when you don't know what you are talking about and have been called on a silly remark shut up and move on.
Mr. Llama, bit harsh. I never asked you to stop talking about classical history, just because you have a deranged and indefensible view of Hannibal and Caesar.
While there is a Sea of Cleverness on the Moon, there is not one for Credibility. There is, though, a crater called Cameron - that's how out of touch he is!
I can't see either Ed or Nick paddling in the Sea of Tranquility this summer.
"Mr. Llama, I do like a triangle with 270 degrees."
Fair enough, it is not compulsory. You can have triangles whose angles add up to 180 degrees or more than 180 degrees or less than 180 degrees. It is all entirely up to you, the mathematics will work whatever way you want to look at the world. You need not be stuck with three physical dimensions either, just don't ask me to explain what a six dimensional cube looks like.
Mr. Llama, bit harsh. I never asked you to stop talking about classical history, just because you have a deranged and indefensible view of Hannibal and Caesar.
Do either the fava bean favouring serial killer or the salad have much in common with ancient culinary history ?
Staggeringly, I learnt about the fourth and fifth (time and space) from a Sonic the Hedgehog book, when I was about 7. I also learnt (same series, different book) about transmogrification.
Mr. Llama, bit harsh. I never asked you to stop talking about classical history, just because you have a deranged and indefensible view of Hannibal and Caesar.
Do either the fava bean favouring serial killer or the salad have much in common with ancient culinary history ?
"A Census-taker LibDem canvasser once tried to test me..."
While there is a Sea of Cleverness on the Moon, there is not one for Credibility. There is, though, a crater called Cameron - that's how out of touch he is!
I can't see either Ed or Nick paddling in the Sea of Tranquility this summer.
It doesn't mean they're down to earth though....
I suppose they could always join the Moonster Raving Loonar Party!
Mr. Llama, bit harsh. I never asked you to stop talking about classical history, just because you have a deranged and indefensible view of Hannibal and Caesar.
Sort of a fair point there, Mr. D. At least my arguments about Hannibal are defensible.
He lost and therefore he was a loser. After all it is not the group stages and the heats that count, is it? It is the final, and Hannibal lost the final. Before going off to be become a mercenary and a suicide that is.
"Mr. Llama, I do like a triangle with 270 degrees."
Fair enough, it is not compulsory. You can have triangles whose angles add up to 180 degrees or more than 180 degrees or less than 180 degrees. It is all entirely up to you, the mathematics will work whatever way you want to look at the world. You need not be stuck with three physical dimensions either, just don't ask me to explain what a six dimensional cube looks like.
Just imagine that you are a speck of dust, a point (nil dimensions). Extend your horizon to a line (one dimension) and repeat the process 5 more times.
Mr. Llama, whereas the sign of true victory is when your own side stab you several dozen times?
Mr Dancer, is it not true that the Roman civilisation long outlived Caesar, and that his name (with spelling variations) even found its way into modern German and Russian?
Mr. Llama, whereas the sign of true victory is when your own side stab you several dozen times?
Mr Dancer, and yet even in death he prevailed because he talent spotted Octavian who with Agrippa beat all challenges to hrs establishment of the Imperium.
Comments
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/10911839/Close-half-of-Britains-universities-leading-academic-says.html
Although I think Sir Roderick Floud sounds more like a character in a fantasy novel than an academic.
They are born in Britain Jack, they merely holiday in the south of France and the Med in winter, like true aristocrats.
One would think the local LibDems would not be so stupid.
But then again...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27926420
Tawny Blair says:
June 19, 2014 at 4:22 pm
Predation, predation, predation.
Would definitely NOT vote for (lower figures better, obviously!):
Amongst all voters: Con 44%, Lab 53%, LD 48%, UKIP 55%
Amongst UKIP supporters: Con 63%, Lab 75%, LD 74%
Also, amongst UKIP supporters, 20% are satisfied with Cameron as PM, and a further 49% prefer him to Ed M, whereas just 19% prefer Ed.
Those all suggest that any squeezing is likely to benefit the Conservatives, although by how much is debatable.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html
Blair and Bush were right!!!
Probably overpaid as our wage is higher than that of Germany.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-17543356
http://new.livestream.com/accounts/1266210/events/3018574
David Willetts, the Universities Minister, has actually signalled an expansion in numbers by saying he wants to create dozens of new campuses in higher education “cold spots” over the coming years
Of course, Willetts is not disagreeing with Floud. Floud is calling for the number of organisations to be shrunk, not the number of campuses. His argument is that its too dispersed, with too many small organisations trying to do everything, leading to large inefficiencies. That's unrelated to the number of campuses the country has on aggregate.
100 Prescotts to the Soames...
The more one scrutinises US mideast policy the more one want's to throw up!
Switzerland and Norway seem to have done OK with policies of studied neutrality.
I regard the policy of neutrality by countries like Norway, Switzerland and Ireland at times in the past to be one of rank selfishness. All it takes for evil to prosper is for good men to do nothing.
If it does both (better for some, worse for others) then they'd get less of the credit from some and more of the blame from the rest.
In the latter case if it's the ABs doing better and the rest doing worse then even though nationally that might be bad for Lib, in particular seats where there's a lot of public sector ABs it might make their vote more solid.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WS-JcaPFzp4
You might have a point if only Norway had ever had a policy of Neutrality. It has been a member of NATO since the organisation was founded in 1949. If you are going to gob off about another country at least get your basic facts right.
Remind me: did our intervention in Iraq help make the locals better or worse off?
* n word in this context obviously stands for Nordic
Denmark, Norway and Iceland are all in the NATO brethren of Pirates. Aaaaarrrr!
I was thinking more of not spending money and not engaging in foreign adventures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nato
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_NATO
Belike.
Mr. Llama, I do like a triangle with 270 degrees.
Mr. Me, perhaps the owls are intended to fly the self-employed to Mars?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISAF
It doesn't mean they're down to earth though....
"Mr. Llama, I do like a triangle with 270 degrees."
Fair enough, it is not compulsory. You can have triangles whose angles add up to 180 degrees or more than 180 degrees or less than 180 degrees. It is all entirely up to you, the mathematics will work whatever way you want to look at the world. You need not be stuck with three physical dimensions either, just don't ask me to explain what a six dimensional cube looks like.
Staggeringly, I learnt about the fourth and fifth (time and space) from a Sonic the Hedgehog book, when I was about 7. I also learnt (same series, different book) about transmogrification.
He lost and therefore he was a loser. After all it is not the group stages and the heats that count, is it? It is the final, and Hannibal lost the final. Before going off to be become a mercenary and a suicide that is.
Does that help?