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  • perdixperdix Posts: 1,806
    isam said:

    Andrew Neil has said three or four times now

    "The four main parties"

    The times they are a changin'

    Is that Con/Lab/LD/MRLP?

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,958
    joncraigSKY ‏@joncraig 1m

    UKIP source at Newark predicting Tories "will touch 40%", with them 2nd on 31-32%, Labour 18% & LibDems 2%. Tories would be happy with 40%.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    edited June 2014
    Curtice saying Lab swing required to win of 15% is in line with many other swings in last Parliament and pre 1997.

    Lab performance indicates not enough enthusiasm to suggest Lab is upcoming party of Government.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    UKIP briefing out Tories 40%, UKIP 32%, Lab 18%, LD 2%

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    UKIP 34 <<
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Nottingham Post: UKIP concede they haven't won.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    #BritainElects ‏@britainelects 1m

    #RUMOUR of revised Newark vote share at the moment: CON - 40% UKIP - 32% LAB - 18% LDEM - 2%
  • RochdalePioneersRochdalePioneers Posts: 28,947
    isam said:

    Andrew Neil has said three or four times now

    "The four main parties"

    The times they are a changin'

    And why all comparisons to prior elections in a 3 party world are outdated. The joy of maths is that percentage splits always add up to 100. Create a 4th main party and naturally the % split of the old 3 drop proportionally. To listen to some commentator types its as if the kippers 15%+ is new vote shares added on top.....
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    edited June 2014
    Twitter
    David Mundell MP ‏@DavidMundellMP 4m
    @britainelects @ianssmart Your figures on Clydesdale South by election are wrong Con + 7.5%, lab - 2.8%, SNP -9.8, UKIP +2, greens 2.8

    #BritainElects ‏@britainelects 37m
    Clydesdale South (South Lanarkshire) Result: LAB - 42.0% (+8.8) SNP - 32.9% (-14.0) CON - 18.5% (+4.5) UKIP - 6.6% (+6.6)
    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Xlibris1 ‏@Xlibris1 3m
    Richard Willis ‏@CllrRWillis 5m
    Clydesdale South (South Lanarkshire) Result: LAB: 42.0% (+8.8) GAIN SNP: 32.9% (-14.0) CONS: 18.5% (+4.5) UKIP:6.6% (+6.6)

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,528
    30% for UKIP would be fine.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    perdix said:

    isam said:

    Andrew Neil has said three or four times now

    "The four main parties"

    The times they are a changin'

    Is that Con/Lab/LD/MRLP?

    UKIP instead of LD
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    isam said:

    John Curtice saying if UKIP get 30% or more it will be a remarkable performance

    Also saying ridiculous that anyone says it would be a failure if UKIP didnt win

    Eh, I'd say if UKIP make it all the way through to the GE winning none of the by-elections they should be at the least disappointed.

    More or less all the emerging parties have won seats from way behind at by-elections as they came up. So the track record's there.

    It's not necessarily the only way of course, but it doesn't bode well for their seat winning prospects at the GE.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).
  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    Clydesdale South 1st preferences

    Lab 1492 - 40.7% down 3.6%
    SNP 1170 - 30.9% down 9.4%
    Con 659 - 18.0% up 7.6%
    UKIP 233 - 6.4% up 2.4%
    Green 104 - 2.9% up 2.9%
  • fitalassfitalass Posts: 4,320
    Twitter :)
    Ian Smart ‏@ianssmart 4m
    @DavidMundellMP This Scottish Tory revival is in danger of getting out of hand:-)
    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    David Mundell MP ‏@DavidMundellMP 4m
    @britainelects @ianssmart Your figures on Clydesdale South by election are wrong Con + 7.5%, lab - 2.8%, SNP -9.8, UKIP +2, greens 2.8

    #BritainElects ‏@britainelects 37m
    Clydesdale South (South Lanarkshire) Result: LAB - 42.0% (+8.8) SNP - 32.9% (-14.0) CON - 18.5% (+4.5) UKIP - 6.6% (+6.6)

    fitalass said:

    Twitter
    Xlibris1 ‏@Xlibris1 3m
    Richard Willis ‏@CllrRWillis 5m
    Clydesdale South (South Lanarkshire) Result: LAB: 42.0% (+8.8) GAIN SNP: 32.9% (-14.0) CONS: 18.5% (+4.5) UKIP:6.6% (+6.6)

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    Turnout 52.79%

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    isam said:

    Andrew Neil has said three or four times now

    "The four main parties"

    The times they are a changin'

    CON, UKIP, LAB ?

    Which is the 4th ?
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
    No (hence why I said comes across rather than is). Judging by long exposure to his twitterings/bloggings/etc.
  • TykejohnnoTykejohnno Posts: 7,362

    Sun Politics @Sun_Politics

    Official turnout in Newark by-election is 52.79%

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395


    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    Turnout 52.79%

    That'll be about 39,000 votes.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    Pulpstar said:

    isam said:

    Andrew Neil has said three or four times now

    "The four main parties"

    The times they are a changin'

    CON, UKIP, LAB ?

    Which is the 4th ?
    Elvis? :)
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    John Curtice saying if UKIP get 30% or more it will be a remarkable performance

    Also saying ridiculous that anyone says it would be a failure if UKIP didnt win

    Eh, I'd say if UKIP make it all the way through to the GE winning none of the by-elections they should be at the least disappointed.

    More or less all the emerging parties have won seats from way behind at by-elections as they came up. So the track record's there.

    It's not necessarily the only way of course, but it doesn't bode well for their seat winning prospects at the GE.
    Ill bet with you if you like?

    UKIP vs LD at the GE

    £100 at EVEN money GE 2015 vote percentage

    I will buy UKIP seats at 2 for £500 off you
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    marke09 said:

    #BritainElects ‏@britainelects 1m

    #RUMOUR of revised Newark vote share at the moment: CON - 40% UKIP - 32% LAB - 18% LDEM - 2%

    If it's 40/32 with rural areas to come then 43/29 might be possible?

    UKIP might just miss Curtice target.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    edited June 2014


    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    Turnout 52.79%

    Beats Eastleigh as highest (mainland) turnout this parliament.
  • marke09marke09 Posts: 926
    Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 2m

    Turnout in the #Newark by-election announced as 52.79%
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    MikeL said:

    marke09 said:

    #BritainElects ‏@britainelects 1m

    #RUMOUR of revised Newark vote share at the moment: CON - 40% UKIP - 32% LAB - 18% LDEM - 2%

    If it's 40/32 with rural areas to come then 43/29 might be possible?

    UKIP might just miss Curtice target.
    Curtice said over 30% would be a remarkable result, not par for the course
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,958
    Yay - Jacob Rees-Mogg
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    RodCrosby said:


    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    Turnout 52.79%

    Might beat Eastleigh as highest (mainland) this parliament.
    What impact do you think Newark will have on your swingback model prediction?

    [The Mogg outperforming Hancock by a long margin].

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Lefty talking heads on Sky crowing over "the beginning of the end of UKIP"
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Yay - Jacob Rees-Mogg


    My fav Conservative
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
    No (hence why I said comes across rather than is). Judging by long exposure to his twitterings/bloggings/etc.
    Doesn't improve much. I dislike the attitudes of just general sneering at politics. I prefer people active in the game rather than throwing rocks from the cheap seats.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    I've reversed my 100/1.01 positions.

    It's not going to happen.

    Betting aside, I'm relieved the Kippers are back in their can - at least for now.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AveryLP said:

    RodCrosby said:


    Guido Fawkes ✔ @GuidoFawkes

    Turnout 52.79%

    Might beat Eastleigh as highest (mainland) this parliament.
    What impact do you think Newark will have on your swingback model prediction?

    [The Mogg outperforming Hancock by a long margin].

    I'll let you know after the result. Looks like a modest swing to Labour.

    Will reduce the average this parliament, if so...
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Rees-Mogg should be shot.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    RodCrosby said:

    Lefty talking heads on Sky crowing over "the beginning of the end of UKIP"

    Well it is.

    But there is no need to crow.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe_HtA5zw9U&feature=kp
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Why is Rees-Mogg still going on about a pact with UKIP?

    There isn't a one in a million chance of it happening.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,112
    Eastleigh was 52.8%
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    John Curtice saying if UKIP get 30% or more it will be a remarkable performance

    Also saying ridiculous that anyone says it would be a failure if UKIP didnt win

    Eh, I'd say if UKIP make it all the way through to the GE winning none of the by-elections they should be at the least disappointed.

    More or less all the emerging parties have won seats from way behind at by-elections as they came up. So the track record's there.

    It's not necessarily the only way of course, but it doesn't bode well for their seat winning prospects at the GE.
    Ill bet with you if you like?

    UKIP vs LD at the GE

    £100 at EVEN money GE 2015 vote percentage

    I will buy UKIP seats at 2 for £500 off you
    Aren't we already betting on this?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    edited June 2014
    UKIP will not get any seats at the election. Diana James idea that they'll get 60 seats is risible.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Diane James talking about UKIP getting 30 to 60 seats at the GE!!!

    Has she put her life savings on UKIP getting over 5 seats on Betfair?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    John Curtice saying if UKIP get 30% or more it will be a remarkable performance

    Also saying ridiculous that anyone says it would be a failure if UKIP didnt win

    Eh, I'd say if UKIP make it all the way through to the GE winning none of the by-elections they should be at the least disappointed.

    More or less all the emerging parties have won seats from way behind at by-elections as they came up. So the track record's there.

    It's not necessarily the only way of course, but it doesn't bode well for their seat winning prospects at the GE.
    Ill bet with you if you like?

    UKIP vs LD at the GE

    £100 at EVEN money GE 2015 vote percentage

    I will buy UKIP seats at 2 for £500 off you
    Aren't we already betting on this?
    Yes but we can go again
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    On these early leaked figures looks like UKIP done a little better than polls, Tories about the same, Labour and LDs worse. If LDs on 2% could they fall behind the Greens?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,958
    Who on earth thinks UKIP will get 30-60 seats at the general election?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406

    Who on earth thinks UKIP will get 30-60 seats at the general election?

    So long as they include Great Grimsby and Thurrock I'll be happy.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,958
    Argh, JRM used "pre-prepared"
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Mogg's claim that they are highly unlikely to gain any seats is balderdash too.
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Tory MP (seriously?) very confused. "Unprecedented" hold.

    Told about Hague, 1989...

    "Well, yes, but his majority was reduced to 100".

    Nope, that was McLoughlin, 1986...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Mogg loves a by election :D
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Pulpstar said:

    Mogg's claim that they are highly unlikely to gain any seats is balderdash too.

    Less balderdash than 60 seats.

  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    edited June 2014
    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
    No (hence why I said comes across rather than is). Judging by long exposure to his twitterings/bloggings/etc.
    Doesn't improve much. I dislike the attitudes of just general sneering at politics. I prefer people active in the game rather than throwing rocks from the cheap seats.
    You've met him?

    (I also agree, FDR's Man in the Arena speech is a favourite of mine).
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737

    Who on earth thinks UKIP will get 30-60 seats at the general election?

    They'll be lucky to get 30-60 second places...
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Who on earth thinks UKIP will get 30-60 seats at the general election?

    No one

    Diane James makes some strange comments.. she is good but maybe over rated
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Farage on Five Live - Tories to win by about 2,500.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    ToryJim said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Mogg's claim that they are highly unlikely to gain any seats is balderdash too.

    Less balderdash than 60 seats.

    True !

    Wonder where a spread line would be set right now though. Certainly over 1.
  • manofkent2014manofkent2014 Posts: 1,543
    AndyJS said:

    Farage on Five Live - Tories to win by about 2,500.

    2,500? That's not a majority that 1,000 activists on the stump could be proud of.....
  • timmotimmo Posts: 1,469
    HYUFD said:

    On these early leaked figures looks like UKIP done a little better than polls, Tories about the same, Labour and LDs worse. If LDs on 2% could they fall behind the Greens?

    Any news on BuspassElvis?

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    AndyJS said:

    Farage on Five Live - Tories to win by about 2,500.

    6.5% I work that out as.
  • Swiss_BobSwiss_Bob Posts: 619
    More from the Twitter feed on the count site:

    "Fellow #UKIP members at the count are saying that the #LibDems are at around 2%, UKIP at 36%! Dead heat with the #TORIES"
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
    No (hence why I said comes across rather than is). Judging by long exposure to his twitterings/bloggings/etc.
    Doesn't improve much. I dislike the attitudes of just general sneering at politics. I prefer people active in the game rather than throwing rocks from the cheap seats.
    You've met him?

    (I also agree, FDR's Man in the Arena speech is a favourite of mine).
    Yes. For my sins.

    I love FDRs Madison Sq Garden speech just before the 1936 election. Wonderful crafting.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Pulpstar said:

    AndyJS said:

    Farage on Five Live - Tories to win by about 2,500.

    6.5% I work that out as.
    Probably 40-33.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Rees Mogg is quality.

    Are people who prefer non enitities like Hancock really Conservative?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    isam said:

    Who on earth thinks UKIP will get 30-60 seats at the general election?

    No one

    Diane James makes some strange comments.. she is good but maybe over rated
    She is undoubtedly good as a party representative on TV. She handles aggressive questioning well.

    But there is latent anger in her eyes.

    Not a woman to cross I would guess.

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Impressive GOTV from the Conservatives, have to say.

    Also noticed for the first time yesterday that there is a road sign for Newark 2 miles from my house ... never noted that before.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,723
    Curtice explaining that Con / UKIP pact is totally impractical.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    Looks like result may be something like:

    Con 15,500 (40%)
    UKIP 13,000 (33%)
    Lab 7,000 (18%)
    LD 1,500 (4%)

    Based on what Farage was saying.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    AndyJS said:

    Farage on Five Live - Tories to win by about 2,500.

    Where is College?

    In Newark?

    I wonder if the result will cause him to stay up until 3:42 am.
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    MikeL said:

    Curtice explaining that Con / UKIP pact is totally impractical.

    It is. The number of people I know who would quit a Tory party that did a pact with UKIP.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    Timmo If the LDs fall behind BusPassElvis I think you can safely say Clegg has been run over
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    Helmer.

    The forced smile of the defeated.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Swiss_Bob said:

    More from the Twitter feed on the count site:

    "Fellow #UKIP members at the count are saying that the #LibDems are at around 2%, UKIP at 36%! Dead heat with the #TORIES"

    Viva Las Vegas for the Lib Dems.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    AveryLP said:

    Helmer.

    The forced smile of the defeated.

    Helmer speaks very well i think
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    AndyJS said:

    Looks like result may be something like:

    Con 15,500 (40%)
    UKIP 13,000 (33%)
    Lab 7,000 (18%)
    LD 1,500 (4%)

    Close, but no cigar.

    Again.

    Not going to break the mould at this rate...
  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Farage: shortlist of two three seats I will fight, to be announced before the summer recess...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Did Helmer concede? I missed his interview.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    isam said:

    AveryLP said:

    Helmer.

    The forced smile of the defeated.

    Helmer speaks very well i think
    Sounded very similar to my late father,

    And as he was a staunch Tebbitite, he may even have flirted with the Kippers had he still been alive.

  • MarkSeniorMarkSenior Posts: 4,699
    timmo said:

    HYUFD said:

    On these early leaked figures looks like UKIP done a little better than polls, Tories about the same, Labour and LDs worse. If LDs on 2% could they fall behind the Greens?

    Any news on BuspassElvis?

    What happened to your forecast of big Conservative and Labour gains from the Lib Dems in Sutton 2 weeks ago ?
  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    RodCrosby said:

    Farage: shortlist of two three seats I will fight, to be announced before the summer recess...

    Mistake to show his hand that soon.

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    RodCrosby said:

    AndyJS said:

    Looks like result may be something like:

    Con 15,500 (40%)
    UKIP 13,000 (33%)
    Lab 7,000 (18%)
    LD 1,500 (4%)

    Close, but no cigar.

    Again.

    Not going to break the mould at this rate...
    Farage might be able to win Thanet South next year, but apart from that it's difficult to see them winning anything.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    corporeal said:

    isam said:

    John Curtice saying if UKIP get 30% or more it will be a remarkable performance

    Also saying ridiculous that anyone says it would be a failure if UKIP didnt win

    Eh, I'd say if UKIP make it all the way through to the GE winning none of the by-elections they should be at the least disappointed.

    More or less all the emerging parties have won seats from way behind at by-elections as they came up. So the track record's there.

    It's not necessarily the only way of course, but it doesn't bode well for their seat winning prospects at the GE.
    Ill bet with you if you like?

    UKIP vs LD at the GE

    £100 at EVEN money GE 2015 vote percentage

    I will buy UKIP seats at 2 for £500 off you
    Aren't we already betting on this?
    Yes but we can go again
    Alas I'm a little too short on cash to stack up more such bets.
    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    ToryJim said:

    corporeal said:

    Harry Cole always comes across as something of a twat (imho).

    Have you ever met him?
    No (hence why I said comes across rather than is). Judging by long exposure to his twitterings/bloggings/etc.
    Doesn't improve much. I dislike the attitudes of just general sneering at politics. I prefer people active in the game rather than throwing rocks from the cheap seats.
    You've met him?

    (I also agree, FDR's Man in the Arena speech is a favourite of mine).
    Yes. For my sins.

    I love FDRs Madison Sq Garden speech just before the 1936 election. Wonderful crafting.
    Your sins must be great indeed.

    Wiki informs me I've been naming it wrong all the time. Apparently the speech is properly called Citizenship in a Republic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_in_a_Republic
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    ToryJim said:

    RodCrosby said:

    Farage: shortlist of two three seats I will fight, to be announced before the summer recess...

    Mistake to show his hand that soon.

    Farage's obvious choice is Thanet South and that is where he will probably end up standing.

    His problem is that a successor to Laura Sandys has not yet been chosen. So he risks being trumped (e.g. by Boris) if he declares too early.

    I guess what he is doing is trying to force Thanet South Conservatives Association to make a choice of candidate before he declares.

  • RodCrosbyRodCrosby Posts: 7,737
    Craig to Farage: so the earth didn't move here tonight, and, as we know, it didn't in Malta either...
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    Helmer is younger than the Beatles.
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    AndyJS said:

    Did Helmer concede? I missed his interview.

    Not in words.

    In tone and manner, yes.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Simon Danczuk seems to not to believe in the letter 'h'
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    AndyJS said:

    Helmer is younger than the Beatles.

    Not in social attitudes. About half a century older.

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    AveryLP said:

    AndyJS said:

    Did Helmer concede? I missed his interview.

    Not in words.

    In tone and manner, yes.

    Thanks Avery.
  • corporealcorporeal Posts: 2,549
    AveryLP said:

    AndyJS said:

    Did Helmer concede? I missed his interview.

    Not in words.

    In tone and manner, yes.

    Farage conceded apparently
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    College looks a little tired.

    Must have been a hard week.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    I doubt Ukip will win 60 seats next year but people saying it's a million to one shot are wrong. Trouble for Ukip is they're back in the low teens after the Euros. They haven't really moved forward in the last 12 months. It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if the economy hadn't picked up.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    UKIP have been a bit unlucky in that there are probably about 50 seats they could have won in a by-election but none of them have become vacant during the parliament.
  • stjohnstjohn Posts: 1,861
    This is probably common knowledge to PBers - but news to me.

    I have just gone to Wikipedia to find out the turnout for the Newark constituency vote at the last GE 2010. (51,228, 71.4%).

    I did not know that Newark's elected MP in 1832 was the "TORY CANDIDATE", William Ewart Gladstone!

    Shows how much I know.

  • ToryJimToryJim Posts: 4,189
    Has Farage been drinking?
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    Farage on BBC conceding Tories won, says UKIP cut their majority to 2,500 - 3000
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,928
    AndyJS said:

    UKIP have been a bit unlucky in that there are probably about 50 seats they could have won in a by-election but none of them have become vacant during the parliament.

    That's one in 13 seats. How many by elections have we had? And anyway they only really picked up around 2012 didn't they?
  • AveryLPAveryLP Posts: 7,815
    edited June 2014
    AndyJS said:

    AveryLP said:

    AndyJS said:

    Did Helmer concede? I missed his interview.

    Not in words.

    In tone and manner, yes.

    Thanks Avery.
    He has. A 2,000-3,000 majority for the Tories.

    Expectations management or a straight estimate? Sounds like the latter.

    [Should be answer to corporeal @ 1:26]

  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited June 2014
    "The Newark by-election count has officially started! #newarkbyelection"

    https://mobile.twitter.com/NSDCouncil
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