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  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    oggologi said:

    Reform may have well peaked and is falling . These Tory defectors may wish they hadn’t defected came the next GE.

    On the other hand they will get a huge publicity boost when they gain several hundred council seats, take over some more councils and become the opposition in Scotland and Wales. Even if they perform below what us politics nerds regard as expectations, they will still get a huge publicity boost. And Pollcheck reports they are still a couple of percent above where they were this time last year.
    Depends on the overall results. They need 'wins' - NEV? Probably, overall wards? Maybe/probably. But they'll likely fall short in Wales, i think they'll finish 3rd or 4th in Scotland and similar in London.
    So the picture will be much less convincing than last year and the spin will be 'falling back from heights'/'not sealing the deal'
  • glwglw Posts: 10,851
    Sandpit said:

    Steven Swinford (PolEd at The Times) with a transcript of McSweeney’s 999 call.

    No mention at all of who he works for, and gives a personal email and address outside London, but he does say he called ‘work’ to have them track the phone.

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2036769547768807770

    If "them" can track the phone it implies it's under an MDM, not a regular user account, because in that case "he" would have to track the phone. If an MDM is running on a civil service issued phone I would be amazed if it's not enforcing a regular full backup, and it it isn't then it's almost certainly breaking regulations as is.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,963
    Scott_xP said:

    @pickardje.bsky.social‬

    supreme accidental comic timing in Commons just now during PMQs:

    Keir Starmer: “there is only one party leader who has shown he will say anything, no matter how divisive, if he is paid to do so”

    Speaker (calling the next question): “Nigel Farage”

    The order of questions is known in advance.
  • Pulpstar said:

    Dopermean said:

    FF43 said:

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
    30% of UK households (7mn) are in receipt of Universal Credit. Surprisingly the same spread throughout the UK (England 29% / Wales 30% / Scotland 31%). There are 9mn pensioner households.

    So the workers not in receipt of UC are doing a lot of the heavy lifting for pensioners more than anyone else.
    You’re obsessed with bloody pensioners receiving benefits but not working age people.

    Pension is a contribution based benefit and those receiving it did the heavy lifting in the past.

    Rightly or wrongly that’s the case.

    Aside from a few benefits, such as contribution based JSA, you cannot say that about most who receive working age benefits and bloody labour, or some of them, want to hand more money to the Boriswave.

    Personally I’d tie both pensions and benefits to GDP growth.

    @malcolmg what is it with people here who are happy to dump on people who contributed to the benefits system getting something back but radiate their middle class, white, worthiness on those who largely haven’t ?
    Hopefully no-one wants to see state support removed for old people but what grates is the huge sense of entitlement of the current generation of pensioners. Who are much better catered for than generations past, and also those to come. Who sound off about how they deserve the lion share of state welfare "because they worked for it", all the while denying any support to people who are actually working, and supposedly feckless and morally inferior.

    Sadly all parties indulge this sense of entitlement, hoping these guys will vote for them.
    It is not pensioners receiving free childcare despite family incomes of up to £200,000 a year. It is not pensioners whose children enjoy breakfast clubs and after-school clubs. It is not pensioners who get higher rate tax relief on private pension contributions. It *is* pensioners who left school at 15 or 16 and worked for more years to 65 than younger generations who left school at 21 and whose pension age is 67 or 68.

    And I still believe this intergenerational spat was started by Russian trolls.
    Sorry but this is a shockingly ignorant post. Look at the marginal tax rates on families earning £200k. Look at the gradual erosion of the tax advantages of DC occupational pensions as offered to younger people Vs dB pensions as typically enjoyed by older people, look at the drying up of dB scheme surpluses and the elimination of the generous early retirement provisions enjoyed by earlier generations.

    And what on earth is this point about younger people being in "school" until 21 ? They're at university, pushing themselves into debt rather than enjoying the free further education offered to previous generations, trying to improve their chances in a job market being choked by excessive taxation and poor growth.
    They're at University being milked.
    They've been sold a university degree as the best career path, sold tuition fee and maintenance loans as being a good value investment, then charged rents at getting on for the full maintenance loan.
    The system doesn't care if they get a worthwhile degree, it just wants students to borrow money to pay out as rent.
    RPI + 3% debt accruing for your fertile & mortgage paying years and then being wiped is simply bonkers from all perspectives. Effectively 9% extra tax on your working life, disgusting.
    I was mulling this over during a long hike yesterday: under the current tax system, it's quite possible that if I were back in my late 20s, just set up my own company, probably making £70-80k a year gross - I could send a client an invoice for £1380 which leaves £1150 after vat, which leaves £1000 to be paid as salary after employer NI, which then suffers 40% income tax, 2% employee NI and 9% student loan repayment. Net salary £490. Oops, hang on, I've got 2 kids so clawback of child benefit at approx 11%, net salary actually £380ish. Effective aggregate tax rate = 72%.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    kinabalu said:

    Can't messages sent/received by phone be accessed without the phone?

    If you want them to be, yes
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,853
    glw said:

    Sandpit said:

    Steven Swinford (PolEd at The Times) with a transcript of McSweeney’s 999 call.

    No mention at all of who he works for, and gives a personal email and address outside London, but he does say he called ‘work’ to have them track the phone.

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2036769547768807770

    If "them" can track the phone it implies it's under an MDM, not a regular user account, because in that case "he" would have to track the phone. If an MDM is running on a civil service issued phone I would be amazed if it's not enforcing a regular full backup, and it it isn't then it's almost certainly breaking regulations as is.
    This is going to run and run.

  • Jesus, Badenoch’s decision to want to join the war looking more baffling every day.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694
    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    My gaff has fallen about 15% in the last 3 years, Taz, you'll be happy to learn.

    I sense the era of making easy money off property has passed and that's got to be a good thing.
    Why would that please me ? I may disagree with you on here but I wish you, not anyone here, no ill fortune.
    Well it certainly pleases me. It reduces the inequality between our 2 streets.
  • As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    Reform with the walking out stunt. Pointless
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    glw said:

    Sandpit said:

    Steven Swinford (PolEd at The Times) with a transcript of McSweeney’s 999 call.

    No mention at all of who he works for, and gives a personal email and address outside London, but he does say he called ‘work’ to have them track the phone.

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2036769547768807770

    If "them" can track the phone it implies it's under an MDM, not a regular user account, because in that case "he" would have to track the phone. If an MDM is running on a civil service issued phone I would be amazed if it's not enforcing a regular full backup, and it it isn't then it's almost certainly breaking regulations as is.
    Exactly. They have record keeping regulations, and *plenty* of previous cases around message retention.

    Either the IT team at No.10 is not fit for purpose, or the politicians are lying.

    (The No.10 IT team will be the best guys they can find at each grade, looking to use the posting for quick promotion under their arcane CS rules about salaries. They really need to throw serious money at a few ‘nerds’ if they want to solve the problem, but until they do the assumption will be that those right at the top would rather the problem wasn’t solved. )
  • Reform with the walking out stunt. Pointless

    It all rings so hollow now when so many of their MPs were in senior positions of power and yet did nothing.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,433

    Jesus, Badenoch’s decision to want to join the war looking more baffling every day.

    When did she ever say that?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,963

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,437

    Barnesian said:

    Boring PMQs. Yawn

    I thought SKS wiped the floor with Kimi
    Benefit Street Bailout will hit home. Cost of Living will be a heavy weight for Labour.
    Drill baby drill
    Only if you have tooth ache

    Fossil fuels will spike every time there is a global event .

    Gettng off them asap is the only protection
  • CiceroCicero Posts: 4,293

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Heard the one about Crispin Blake asking Chris Pincher for good smacks
    🤣🤣🤣

    Who’s Crispin Blake ?
    That was a bit Blunt!
    Like the Viz character of the same name, Bertie, who had a parrot ?
    Greatest standalone Viz story of all time. Possibly tied with Mickey's Monkey Spunk Moped.
    Nude Motorcycle Girl?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,649
    Taz said:

    Greater Israel coming soon.

    Lebanon below the river Litani, which is happening, and now this proposal.

    ‘ 🇮🇱🇬🇷 A representative of the Israel Defense Minister's party has proposed Israel purchase islands in Greece “for the good of the Jewish people.”

    Avri Steiner, a board member of the Jewish National Fund, proposed the purchasing Greek islands as an emergency “safe haven” for Jews, and claims a framework could be created with the Greek government to eventually transfer full sovereignty.

    Follow: @europa’

    https://x.com/europa/status/2036569682430374069?s=61

    [In 1917] Greece's Foreign Minister told the editor of the Salonica Jewish organ Pro-Israel that "the establishment of a Jewish State meets in Greece with full and sincere sympathy ... A Jewish Palestine would become an ally of Greece."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    edited 12:41PM

    Pulpstar said:

    Dopermean said:

    FF43 said:

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
    30% of UK households (7mn) are in receipt of Universal Credit. Surprisingly the same spread throughout the UK (England 29% / Wales 30% / Scotland 31%). There are 9mn pensioner households.

    So the workers not in receipt of UC are doing a lot of the heavy lifting for pensioners more than anyone else.
    You’re obsessed with bloody pensioners receiving benefits but not working age people.

    Pension is a contribution based benefit and those receiving it did the heavy lifting in the past.

    Rightly or wrongly that’s the case.

    Aside from a few benefits, such as contribution based JSA, you cannot say that about most who receive working age benefits and bloody labour, or some of them, want to hand more money to the Boriswave.

    Personally I’d tie both pensions and benefits to GDP growth.

    @malcolmg what is it with people here who are happy to dump on people who contributed to the benefits system getting something back but radiate their middle class, white, worthiness on those who largely haven’t ?
    Hopefully no-one wants to see state support removed for old people but what grates is the huge sense of entitlement of the current generation of pensioners. Who are much better catered for than generations past, and also those to come. Who sound off about how they deserve the lion share of state welfare "because they worked for it", all the while denying any support to people who are actually working, and supposedly feckless and morally inferior.

    Sadly all parties indulge this sense of entitlement, hoping these guys will vote for them.
    It is not pensioners receiving free childcare despite family incomes of up to £200,000 a year. It is not pensioners whose children enjoy breakfast clubs and after-school clubs. It is not pensioners who get higher rate tax relief on private pension contributions. It *is* pensioners who left school at 15 or 16 and worked for more years to 65 than younger generations who left school at 21 and whose pension age is 67 or 68.

    And I still believe this intergenerational spat was started by Russian trolls.
    Sorry but this is a shockingly ignorant post. Look at the marginal tax rates on families earning £200k. Look at the gradual erosion of the tax advantages of DC occupational pensions as offered to younger people Vs dB pensions as typically enjoyed by older people, look at the drying up of dB scheme surpluses and the elimination of the generous early retirement provisions enjoyed by earlier generations.

    And what on earth is this point about younger people being in "school" until 21 ? They're at university, pushing themselves into debt rather than enjoying the free further education offered to previous generations, trying to improve their chances in a job market being choked by excessive taxation and poor growth.
    They're at University being milked.
    They've been sold a university degree as the best career path, sold tuition fee and maintenance loans as being a good value investment, then charged rents at getting on for the full maintenance loan.
    The system doesn't care if they get a worthwhile degree, it just wants students to borrow money to pay out as rent.
    RPI + 3% debt accruing for your fertile & mortgage paying years and then being wiped is simply bonkers from all perspectives. Effectively 9% extra tax on your working life, disgusting.
    I was mulling this over during a long hike yesterday: under the current tax system, it's quite possible that if I were back in my late 20s, just set up my own company, probably making £70-80k a year gross - I could send a client an invoice for £1380 which leaves £1150 after vat, which leaves £1000 to be paid as salary after employer NI, which then suffers 40% income tax, 2% employee NI and 9% student loan repayment. Net salary £490. Oops, hang on, I've got 2 kids so clawback of child benefit at approx 11%, net salary actually £380ish. Effective aggregate tax rate = 72%.
    Yes, and we wonder why today’s young entrepreneurs are moving to the US, to Dubai, and to Singapore.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,252
    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    My gaff has fallen about 15% in the last 3 years, Taz, you'll be happy to learn.

    I sense the era of making easy money off property has passed and that's got to be a good thing.
    Why would that please me ? I may disagree with you on here but I wish you, not anyone here, no ill fortune.
    Well it certainly pleases me. It reduces the inequality between our 2 streets.
    That’s fine but doesn’t address my point.
  • RobD said:

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
    That argument makes sense. But it’s not the one most people are making.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,252
    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dopermean said:

    FF43 said:

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
    30% of UK households (7mn) are in receipt of Universal Credit. Surprisingly the same spread throughout the UK (England 29% / Wales 30% / Scotland 31%). There are 9mn pensioner households.

    So the workers not in receipt of UC are doing a lot of the heavy lifting for pensioners more than anyone else.
    You’re obsessed with bloody pensioners receiving benefits but not working age people.

    Pension is a contribution based benefit and those receiving it did the heavy lifting in the past.

    Rightly or wrongly that’s the case.

    Aside from a few benefits, such as contribution based JSA, you cannot say that about most who receive working age benefits and bloody labour, or some of them, want to hand more money to the Boriswave.

    Personally I’d tie both pensions and benefits to GDP growth.

    @malcolmg what is it with people here who are happy to dump on people who contributed to the benefits system getting something back but radiate their middle class, white, worthiness on those who largely haven’t ?
    Hopefully no-one wants to see state support removed for old people but what grates is the huge sense of entitlement of the current generation of pensioners. Who are much better catered for than generations past, and also those to come. Who sound off about how they deserve the lion share of state welfare "because they worked for it", all the while denying any support to people who are actually working, and supposedly feckless and morally inferior.

    Sadly all parties indulge this sense of entitlement, hoping these guys will vote for them.
    It is not pensioners receiving free childcare despite family incomes of up to £200,000 a year. It is not pensioners whose children enjoy breakfast clubs and after-school clubs. It is not pensioners who get higher rate tax relief on private pension contributions. It *is* pensioners who left school at 15 or 16 and worked for more years to 65 than younger generations who left school at 21 and whose pension age is 67 or 68.

    And I still believe this intergenerational spat was started by Russian trolls.
    Sorry but this is a shockingly ignorant post. Look at the marginal tax rates on families earning £200k. Look at the gradual erosion of the tax advantages of DC occupational pensions as offered to younger people Vs dB pensions as typically enjoyed by older people, look at the drying up of dB scheme surpluses and the elimination of the generous early retirement provisions enjoyed by earlier generations.

    And what on earth is this point about younger people being in "school" until 21 ? They're at university, pushing themselves into debt rather than enjoying the free further education offered to previous generations, trying to improve their chances in a job market being choked by excessive taxation and poor growth.
    They're at University being milked.
    They've been sold a university degree as the best career path, sold tuition fee and maintenance loans as being a good value investment, then charged rents at getting on for the full maintenance loan.
    The system doesn't care if they get a worthwhile degree, it just wants students to borrow money to pay out as rent.
    RPI + 3% debt accruing for your fertile & mortgage paying years and then being wiped is simply bonkers from all perspectives. Effectively 9% extra tax on your working life, disgusting.
    I was mulling this over during a long hike yesterday: under the current tax system, it's quite possible that if I were back in my late 20s, just set up my own company, probably making £70-80k a year gross - I could send a client an invoice for £1380 which leaves £1150 after vat, which leaves £1000 to be paid as salary after employer NI, which then suffers 40% income tax, 2% employee NI and 9% student loan repayment. Net salary £490. Oops, hang on, I've got 2 kids so clawback of child benefit at approx 11%, net salary actually £380ish. Effective aggregate tax rate = 72%.
    Yes, and we wonder why today’s young entrepreneurs are moving to the US, to Dubai, and to Singapore.
    Is it because they’re greedy for wanting to keep a reasonable proportion of what they’ve earned ?
  • glwglw Posts: 10,851
    Sandpit said:

    glw said:

    Sandpit said:

    Steven Swinford (PolEd at The Times) with a transcript of McSweeney’s 999 call.

    No mention at all of who he works for, and gives a personal email and address outside London, but he does say he called ‘work’ to have them track the phone.

    https://x.com/steven_swinford/status/2036769547768807770

    If "them" can track the phone it implies it's under an MDM, not a regular user account, because in that case "he" would have to track the phone. If an MDM is running on a civil service issued phone I would be amazed if it's not enforcing a regular full backup, and it it isn't then it's almost certainly breaking regulations as is.
    Exactly. They have record keeping regulations, and *plenty* of previous cases around message retention.

    Either the IT team at No.10 is not fit for purpose, or the politicians are lying.

    (The No.10 IT team will be the best guys they can find at each grade, looking to use the posting for quick promotion under their arcane CS rules about salaries. They really need to throw serious money at a few ‘nerds’ if they want to solve the problem, but until they do the assumption will be that those right at the top would rather the problem wasn’t solved. )
    They are going to look incredibly dodgy if they have to argue "actually we don't routinely backup the phones we issue".
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    https://x.com/i/status/2036780477718126770

    You see. He was clearly frustrated with the exchange at this moment but the picture doesnt capture that.
    You cant let yourself be photographed with your head in your hands in parliament under questioning
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,790
    MelonB said:

    Electricity grid news: I think we are currently beating the all time record for renewables generation: over 30gw - 23.79 wind, 8.4 solar.

    Good timing for some bright breezy days considering the price and availability of gas.

    https://grid.iamkate.com/

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen gas that low at 1.2GW.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    RobD said:

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
    If the Straight of Hormuz remains closed for any length of time, the price is irrelevant compared to the ability to actually supply the stuff. The problem isn’t about to be the price of oil, it’s about to be the supply of oil.

    Except for me, I’m expecting petrol prices in the sandpit to fall significantly next month, from the current 50p/litre.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,535
    edited 12:49PM

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,963
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
    If the Straight of Hormuz remains closed for any length of time, the price is irrelevant compared to the ability to actually supply the stuff. The problem isn’t about to be the price of oil, it’s about to be the supply of oil.

    Except for me, I’m expecting petrol prices in the sandpit to fall significantly next month, from the current 50p/litre.
    Yeah, supply is the issue in the short term. Not sure there is much that can be done about that given refining capacity.
  • DoctorGDoctorG Posts: 582

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    Brixian59 said:

    Heard the one about Crispin Blake asking Chris Pincher for good smacks
    🤣🤣🤣

    Who’s Crispin Blake ?
    That was a bit Blunt!
    Like the Viz character of the same name, Bertie, who had a parrot ?
    Greatest standalone Viz story of all time. Possibly tied with Mickey's Monkey Spunk Moped.
    Lol

    Dame Barbara Cartland's farmyard thrill stands out for me too
  • As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know that they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
    I think undoubtedly it would provide tax revenue.

    But that’s not the argument Badenoch and co are making. Indeed it’s not the one they made whilst in charge. Why not?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 22,892
    kinabalu said:

    Can't messages sent/received by phone be accessed without the phone?

    Depends on the app and the settings.

    For WhatsApp, you can choose to back the messages up in the cloud, and then it doesn't matter if you lose your phone. But if you don't back up the messages, then they're gone.
  • If London is as dangerous as Reform tell us, members of the government should be having phones stolen daily
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,742
    Who will be the first Tory to Reform UK defector to reverse feret?
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,649
    Brixian59 said:

    Barnesian said:

    Boring PMQs. Yawn

    I thought SKS wiped the floor with Kimi
    3 lessons got any LOTO

    Remember what you said in Government

    Understand basic Fundamental Law

    When you've been told twice that what you're suggesting is illegal, don't keep asking why it's not being done

    Bssic
    Bssic
    Basic
    Brassic.
  • kinabalu said:

    Can't messages sent/received by phone be accessed without the phone?

    Depends on the app and the settings.

    For WhatsApp, you can choose to back the messages up in the cloud, and then it doesn't matter if you lose your phone. But if you don't back up the messages, then they're gone.
    The backup functionality is two fold.

    There’s WhatsApp itself (which I think is turned off by default and in any case doesn’t back up constantly it’s only once per day and even then it’s only best effort - mine frequently doesn’t work).

    Then there’s iCloud backup which is on by default and is once a day and very reliable.

    Either would require a restore to another phone to get the content back.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    MattW said:

    Who will be the first Tory to Reform UK defector to reverse feret?

    If Boris returns, Nadine!
    I think the departees are all now verboten in Tory circles. They might take Kruger back
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,976
    MattW said:

    Who will be the first Tory to Reform UK defector to reverse feret?

    Oh, let it be Jenrick
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,742

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
    Extending the life of currently running down North Sea fields could have a short-term impact, but imo as you say Horse drilling new fields or going for fracking will take years - and by then alternatives (renewables / small nuclear) will be well on the way.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 7,702
    Taz said:

    Greater Israel coming soon.

    Lebanon below the river Litani, which is happening, and now this proposal.

    ‘ 🇮🇱🇬🇷 A representative of the Israel Defense Minister's party has proposed Israel purchase islands in Greece “for the good of the Jewish people.”

    Avri Steiner, a board member of the Jewish National Fund, proposed the purchasing Greek islands as an emergency “safe haven” for Jews, and claims a framework could be created with the Greek government to eventually transfer full sovereignty.

    Follow: @europa’

    https://x.com/europa/status/2036569682430374069?s=61

    90 years ago it was called lebensraum.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    Taz said:

    Sandpit said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Dopermean said:

    FF43 said:

    Taz said:

    Battlebus said:

    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
    30% of UK households (7mn) are in receipt of Universal Credit. Surprisingly the same spread throughout the UK (England 29% / Wales 30% / Scotland 31%). There are 9mn pensioner households.

    So the workers not in receipt of UC are doing a lot of the heavy lifting for pensioners more than anyone else.
    You’re obsessed with bloody pensioners receiving benefits but not working age people.

    Pension is a contribution based benefit and those receiving it did the heavy lifting in the past.

    Rightly or wrongly that’s the case.

    Aside from a few benefits, such as contribution based JSA, you cannot say that about most who receive working age benefits and bloody labour, or some of them, want to hand more money to the Boriswave.

    Personally I’d tie both pensions and benefits to GDP growth.

    @malcolmg what is it with people here who are happy to dump on people who contributed to the benefits system getting something back but radiate their middle class, white, worthiness on those who largely haven’t ?
    Hopefully no-one wants to see state support removed for old people but what grates is the huge sense of entitlement of the current generation of pensioners. Who are much better catered for than generations past, and also those to come. Who sound off about how they deserve the lion share of state welfare "because they worked for it", all the while denying any support to people who are actually working, and supposedly feckless and morally inferior.

    Sadly all parties indulge this sense of entitlement, hoping these guys will vote for them.
    It is not pensioners receiving free childcare despite family incomes of up to £200,000 a year. It is not pensioners whose children enjoy breakfast clubs and after-school clubs. It is not pensioners who get higher rate tax relief on private pension contributions. It *is* pensioners who left school at 15 or 16 and worked for more years to 65 than younger generations who left school at 21 and whose pension age is 67 or 68.

    And I still believe this intergenerational spat was started by Russian trolls.
    Sorry but this is a shockingly ignorant post. Look at the marginal tax rates on families earning £200k. Look at the gradual erosion of the tax advantages of DC occupational pensions as offered to younger people Vs dB pensions as typically enjoyed by older people, look at the drying up of dB scheme surpluses and the elimination of the generous early retirement provisions enjoyed by earlier generations.

    And what on earth is this point about younger people being in "school" until 21 ? They're at university, pushing themselves into debt rather than enjoying the free further education offered to previous generations, trying to improve their chances in a job market being choked by excessive taxation and poor growth.
    They're at University being milked.
    They've been sold a university degree as the best career path, sold tuition fee and maintenance loans as being a good value investment, then charged rents at getting on for the full maintenance loan.
    The system doesn't care if they get a worthwhile degree, it just wants students to borrow money to pay out as rent.
    RPI + 3% debt accruing for your fertile & mortgage paying years and then being wiped is simply bonkers from all perspectives. Effectively 9% extra tax on your working life, disgusting.
    I was mulling this over during a long hike yesterday: under the current tax system, it's quite possible that if I were back in my late 20s, just set up my own company, probably making £70-80k a year gross - I could send a client an invoice for £1380 which leaves £1150 after vat, which leaves £1000 to be paid as salary after employer NI, which then suffers 40% income tax, 2% employee NI and 9% student loan repayment. Net salary £490. Oops, hang on, I've got 2 kids so clawback of child benefit at approx 11%, net salary actually £380ish. Effective aggregate tax rate = 72%.
    Yes, and we wonder why today’s young entrepreneurs are moving to the US, to Dubai, and to Singapore.
    Is it because they’re greedy for wanting to keep a reasonable proportion of what they’ve earned ?
    Well my small company in Dubai is working on 5% VAT, and 9% corporation tax (above $100k profit, which I’m not at). No personal income tax or capital gains tax.

    Against that, I’m paying about three hundred quid a month on comprehensive health insurance, and if I had kids I’d need to pay £8-10k for education, but most of the larger employers out here cover both for their staff.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,433
    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2036780477718126770

    TFW Ed Miliband is running the government.

    image
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,437

    https://x.com/i/status/2036780477718126770

    You see. He was clearly frustrated with the exchange at this moment but the picture doesnt capture that.
    You cant let yourself be photographed with your head in your hands in parliament under questioning

    I think you can when the questioner is so wrong even other opposition leaders (LDs) feel obliged to point it out in their contributions

    Shocker of a session for KEMI the whole of her front/ backbench have their metophrical heads in their hands with that performance
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,972

    Jesus, Badenoch’s decision to want to join the war looking more baffling every day.

    Not baffling; it's obvious why Kemi B did it (mid Atlantic Twitter brain).

    Just really bad.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,790
    Eabhal said:

    MelonB said:

    Electricity grid news: I think we are currently beating the all time record for renewables generation: over 30gw - 23.79 wind, 8.4 solar.

    Good timing for some bright breezy days considering the price and availability of gas.

    https://grid.iamkate.com/

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen gas that low at 1.2GW.
    Updated and we see now 0.08GW off the all-time wind record.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    Head in hands photo going viral. Bacon Sandwich moment?
    When people want to mock and think the worst, these unfortunate snaps can be cruel and damaging
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,368
    oggologi said:

    Reform may have well peaked and is falling . These Tory defectors may wish they hadn’t defected came the next GE.

    Is that pretty much always the case for defectors?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,972
    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
    If the Straight of Hormuz remains closed for any length of time, the price is irrelevant compared to the ability to actually supply the stuff. The problem isn’t about to be the price of oil, it’s about to be the supply of oil.

    Except for me, I’m expecting petrol prices in the sandpit to fall significantly next month, from the current 50p/litre.
    Though beyond a certain point, cheapness doesn't matter. It's not as if you can drink the stuff.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,090
    edited 1:01PM
    kinabalu said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    House prices are seasonal. They go up on/after Easter, continue high until September, then stabilize/decline over Winter.

    Having said that, I have also heard about the London flat price falling that isn't obviously seasonal.
    Not just flats. London property is generally well off the peak.
    Varies by area I think. Where we are in SE14 prices are down marginally. Our house price has still almost doubled since we bought it in 2011 (not allowing for the rennovation/extension work) according to Zoopla. We still get handwritten notes from people saying they want to buy our house, demand still seems quite strong.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 32,742
    Quite an interesting video from Wheels for Wellbeing explaining why Chicane Barriers at the end of footpaths and cycle tracks are a bad thing, and destroy undermine accessibility and safety. 12 minutes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umI9Z0JW2Vs
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    https://x.com/i/status/2036780477718126770

    You see. He was clearly frustrated with the exchange at this moment but the picture doesnt capture that.
    You cant let yourself be photographed with your head in your hands in parliament under questioning

    I think you can when the questioner is so wrong even other opposition leaders (LDs) feel obliged to point it out in their contributions

    Shocker of a session for KEMI the whole of her front/ backbench have their metophrical heads in their hands with that performance
    Ed Davey hitching his wagon to Starmers pony is not new though
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,906

    Roger said:

    (((Dan Hodges))) reposted
    Andrew Snowden MP 🇬🇧
    @A_J_Snowden
    ·
    4m
    So, bets on PMQs this week?

    Kemi: When did you find out Morgan McSweeneys phone had been stolen and what did you do to recover and secure the critical data on it?

    Starmer: We’ve announced a new breakfast club in Barnsley.

    https://x.com/A_J_Snowden/status/2036724988120629739

    Doesn't it tell you all you need to know about todays Tory Party that when the world is in real peril their MPs are staying awake at night debating whether Kemi should lead PMQs on the theft of Morgan McSweeney's phone?
    Irrespective of politics it should concern all of us that McSweeney's phone, with all the confidential information and government communications, was stolen and dismissed by the police with just a crime number

    This phone could provide enormous potential for blackmail and should have been immediately referred to the National Crime Agency
    There has to be a back up of it anyway. To think otherwise would be stretching credulity to breaking point
    The phone(s) of recipient from/sender to MMcS will have them all, and having nothing to hide will have nothing to fear. No problem.

  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694
    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    kinabalu said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    My gaff has fallen about 15% in the last 3 years, Taz, you'll be happy to learn.

    I sense the era of making easy money off property has passed and that's got to be a good thing.
    Why would that please me ? I may disagree with you on here but I wish you, not anyone here, no ill fortune.
    Well it certainly pleases me. It reduces the inequality between our 2 streets.
    That’s fine but doesn’t address my point.
    There's an unaddressed point? We can't have that on here. If you steer me to it I will damn well rectify.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    https://x.com/KemiBadenoch/status/2036780477718126770

    TFW Ed Miliband is running the government.

    image

    Bacon Sandwich.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694

    kinabalu said:

    Can't messages sent/received by phone be accessed without the phone?

    Depends on the app and the settings.

    For WhatsApp, you can choose to back the messages up in the cloud, and then it doesn't matter if you lose your phone. But if you don't back up the messages, then they're gone.
    Is it a user action to have backup or to stop the auto backup, do we know?

    Also, what's the consensus speculation - that MM, knowing what was coming, destroyed his phone and pretended it was stolen?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,841
    edited 1:08PM

    kinabalu said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    House prices are seasonal. They go up on/after Easter, continue high until September, then stabilize/decline over Winter.

    Having said that, I have also heard about the London flat price falling that isn't obviously seasonal.
    Not just flats. London property is generally well off the peak.
    Varies by area I think. Where we are in SE14 prices are down marginally. Our house price has still almost doubled since we bought it in 2011 (not allowing for the rennovation/extension work) according to Zoopla. We still get handwritten notes from people saying they want to buy our house, demand still seems quite strong.
    It’s variation by segment and quality.

    So Edwardian flats with freehold, 3m ceilings, newly fitted sash windows with double glazing, modern heating and electrics etc are holding up

    Modern built cramped crap, with giant service charges and leasehold, not so much.

    And so on.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,745
    edited 1:08PM
    Some kind person should share some good jokes with that unfortunate speaker.

    For example:
    A Russian gets drunk and begins marching around the Kremlin, shouting: "Putin is a madman! Putin is a madman!"

    Naturally the man is arrested, given a quick trial, and a sentence of 11 years.

    Why 11 years? One year for insulting the leader of Russia, ten years for revealing a state secret.
    Full disclosure: I first heard that joke, in a slightly different form, told about Nikita Khrushchev.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,392

    Head in hands photo going viral. Bacon Sandwich moment?
    When people want to mock and think the worst, these unfortunate snaps can be cruel and damaging

    Bacon sandwich moment ! Starmers hair looks lovely .
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,078

    Barnesian said:

    Boring PMQs. Yawn

    I thought SKS wiped the floor with Kimi
    Light the beacons of Gondor.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,774

    Reform with the walking out stunt. Pointless

    Such a Drama Queen. Strictly CD soon?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,478
    ...
    Nigelb said:

    Suella bringing the stupid.

    Global warming?!?

    Just over a week to go until Easter and we need to get our big coats back out!

    I wouldn’t mind a bit more global warming to be honest, right now.

    https://x.com/SuellaBraverman/status/2036507074868207712

    Something one hears very often - rather out of touch to be outraged about.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    edited 1:16PM
    MattW said:

    Quite an interesting video from Wheels for Wellbeing explaining why Chicane Barriers at the end of footpaths and cycle tracks are a bad thing, and destroy undermine accessibility and safety. 12 minutes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umI9Z0JW2Vs

    Do they address the reasons these barriers are there in the first place, which is a small number of very antisocial youth on bikes and motorbikes making the paths unusable for pedestrians? Is there a compromise solution? Also bikes running straight into the road at the end, to be collected by a car.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,252

    Taz said:

    Greater Israel coming soon.

    Lebanon below the river Litani, which is happening, and now this proposal.

    ‘ 🇮🇱🇬🇷 A representative of the Israel Defense Minister's party has proposed Israel purchase islands in Greece “for the good of the Jewish people.”

    Avri Steiner, a board member of the Jewish National Fund, proposed the purchasing Greek islands as an emergency “safe haven” for Jews, and claims a framework could be created with the Greek government to eventually transfer full sovereignty.

    Follow: @europa’

    https://x.com/europa/status/2036569682430374069?s=61

    90 years ago it was called lebensraum.
    Indeed.

    There’s a David Mitchell meme that leaps to mind now.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 34,478

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036747276421370354

    Sir Keir Starmer's national security adviser Jonathan Powell has been in talks with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister

    They have been talking about the need to 'deepen co-operation in all fields and to effectively manage disputes', Reuters reports

    Wang told Powell that 'all parties should avoid adding fuel to the first' on Iran

    It is worth noting that we only know about the fact of this visit through the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV

    There was no advance notice of the trip or briefing from the government at all

    What the actual effing eff?
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,392
    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    nico67 said:

    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .

    Whaaaaaaaa?!
    My Bitcoin brings all the boys to the yard!
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036747276421370354

    Sir Keir Starmer's national security adviser Jonathan Powell has been in talks with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister

    They have been talking about the need to 'deepen co-operation in all fields and to effectively manage disputes', Reuters reports

    Wang told Powell that 'all parties should avoid adding fuel to the first' on Iran

    It is worth noting that we only know about the fact of this visit through the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV

    There was no advance notice of the trip or briefing from the government at all

    What the actual effing eff?
    We are Chinas pet now
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719
    I drove past this today - a massive effort from UAE and Saudi to get a land bridge running.

    https://x.com/salwashahi/status/2036581825800446410

    UAE Ports of Fujairah and Khorfakkan have miles-long queues of lorries waiting to load up, to keep regional logistics going.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694

    kinabalu said:

    viewcode said:

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    On pensions - the next comedy will be when generation rent retires.

    If you own your property outright, you can live well on very little.

    If they are paying full rent, many will not have the resources to retire at all - no savings, since it all went on rent.

    An oncoming cliff of pensioner poverty.

    All workers should have their own pensions by then because of pension auto enrolment.

    If they don't that will be their own fault.
    Good luck with a pension big enough to support the rental values we see.
    Housing has more or less kept pace with inflation since 2006. Sustained UK wide real terms house price growth is long gone.
    We are just stuck at absurd prices now.

    Unless they drop by about 50%, the problems will continue.
    I follow this site on the Twitter

    Prices, mainly leasehold flats, seem to be falling in London.

    https://x.com/londonpricedrop/status/2036713688388755609?s=61

    Round by me houses are selling with small drops in asking price. Although it’s all relative. A decent 3 bed detached with 1 bathroom goes for about £300K
    House prices are seasonal. They go up on/after Easter, continue high until September, then stabilize/decline over Winter.

    Having said that, I have also heard about the London flat price falling that isn't obviously seasonal.
    Not just flats. London property is generally well off the peak.
    Varies by area I think. Where we are in SE14 prices are down marginally. Our house price has still almost doubled since we bought it in 2011 (not allowing for the rennovation/extension work) according to Zoopla. We still get handwritten notes from people saying they want to buy our house, demand still seems quite strong.
    It will vary quite a lot by area, yes, and I'm sure you're right about yours, but overall a more than marginal drop, I believe. Actual txn prices are the best indicator imo. Here, off about 15% since 22.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,526
    edited 1:17PM
    .

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
    No they don't.
    They say it won't change oil and gas prices, which it won't.

    As a matter of economics, it will earn the country money, and won't make any difference at all to our oil and gas consumption.

    We could even put the £2bn or so extra that government might earn into solar plus grid backup projects.

    So there is no good argument not to do it.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036747276421370354

    Sir Keir Starmer's national security adviser Jonathan Powell has been in talks with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister

    They have been talking about the need to 'deepen co-operation in all fields and to effectively manage disputes', Reuters reports

    Wang told Powell that 'all parties should avoid adding fuel to the first' on Iran

    It is worth noting that we only know about the fact of this visit through the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV

    There was no advance notice of the trip or briefing from the government at all

    What the actual effing eff?
    'Powell doing his job' shocker.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,526

    ...

    Nigelb said:

    Suella bringing the stupid.

    Global warming?!?

    Just over a week to go until Easter and we need to get our big coats back out!

    I wouldn’t mind a bit more global warming to be honest, right now.

    https://x.com/SuellaBraverman/status/2036507074868207712

    Something one hears very often - rather out of touch to be outraged about.
    Rather cloth eared to think that was outrage.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 60,719

    Sandpit said:

    RobD said:

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    I don't think it would have any impact given it is a global market. However, the additional tax revenue generated could be used to support a subsidy or, perhaps more usefully, the push to renewables.
    If the Straight of Hormuz remains closed for any length of time, the price is irrelevant compared to the ability to actually supply the stuff. The problem isn’t about to be the price of oil, it’s about to be the supply of oil.

    Except for me, I’m expecting petrol prices in the sandpit to fall significantly next month, from the current 50p/litre.
    Though beyond a certain point, cheapness doesn't matter. It's not as if you can drink the stuff.
    Thankfully there’s a lot of water desalination plants here, so we can actually drink the stuff.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,855

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
    When Kemi, the unions, the SNP, the industry and even labour mps are demanding it and the Iran crisis has brought it to the front of the agenda they will be on the right side of public opinion

    I have always maintained the benefit is from the tax going into the treasury and I would not be surprised that Reeves makes the case as she becomes desperate to find additional revenue

    Not doing it is fiscal irresponsibility
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,392
    kinabalu said:

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036747276421370354

    Sir Keir Starmer's national security adviser Jonathan Powell has been in talks with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister

    They have been talking about the need to 'deepen co-operation in all fields and to effectively manage disputes', Reuters reports

    Wang told Powell that 'all parties should avoid adding fuel to the first' on Iran

    It is worth noting that we only know about the fact of this visit through the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV

    There was no advance notice of the trip or briefing from the government at all

    What the actual effing eff?
    'Powell doing his job' shocker.
    Given the US is no longer an ally and is now a corrupt malign administration we need to stop moralising about closer links with China .
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,976
    Trump is being spoonfed a video game version of the war in which the US is winning...

    @katiadoyl

    EXCLUSIVE: Each day since the start of the war, U.S. military officials compile a video update for President Trump that shows the biggest, most successful strikes on Iranian targets over the previous 48 hours.

    But the military can’t brief Trump on every strike and so the video, while it showcases U.S. capabilities, doesn’t reflect the full scope of the conflict.

    “We can’t tell him every single thing that happens,” a current U.S. official said. The official noted that Trump’s briefings tend to draw better feedback from his aides when they focus on U.S. victories.

    https://x.com/katiadoyl/status/2036761404984758507?s=20

    This alone is a scandal so huge it's barely comprehensible
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,976
    @katiadoyl
    Current and former officials said the videos are also driving Trump’s increasing frustration with news coverage of the war. Trump has pointed to the success depicted in the daily videos to privately question why his administration can’t better influence the public narrative, asking aides why the news media doesn’t emphasize what he’s seeing.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    nico67 said:

    kinabalu said:

    https://x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2036747276421370354

    Sir Keir Starmer's national security adviser Jonathan Powell has been in talks with Wang Yi, China's foreign minister

    They have been talking about the need to 'deepen co-operation in all fields and to effectively manage disputes', Reuters reports

    Wang told Powell that 'all parties should avoid adding fuel to the first' on Iran

    It is worth noting that we only know about the fact of this visit through the Chinese state broadcaster CCTV

    There was no advance notice of the trip or briefing from the government at all

    What the actual effing eff?
    'Powell doing his job' shocker.
    Given the US is no longer an ally and is now a corrupt malign administration we need to stop moralising about closer links with China .
    Cuddle a commie? No thanks
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,090
    nico67 said:

    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to prevent political parties taking untraceable anonymous money, especially in an age of malign foreign powers trying to buy influence in our politics. You'd think Reform would want to be "whiter than white" in this regard (no joke intended) what with their former Welsh leader doing time for taing Russian bribes.
    On this subject, did we ever find out which who provided that big payment to the leave campaign that was channeled through Northern Ireland to disguise its source?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,078

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,011
    Eabhal said:

    MelonB said:

    Electricity grid news: I think we are currently beating the all time record for renewables generation: over 30gw - 23.79 wind, 8.4 solar.

    Good timing for some bright breezy days considering the price and availability of gas.

    https://grid.iamkate.com/

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen gas that low at 1.2GW.
    But we are still importing 6.4% of our energy. We really need to close that gap and become a net exporter on days like this. (It was snowing in Aberdeen this morning).
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 49,694
    edited 1:22PM

    https://x.com/i/status/2036780477718126770

    You see. He was clearly frustrated with the exchange at this moment but the picture doesnt capture that.
    You cant let yourself be photographed with your head in your hands in parliament under questioning

    I think you can when the questioner is so wrong even other opposition leaders (LDs) feel obliged to point it out in their contributions

    Shocker of a session for KEMI the whole of her front/ backbench have their metophrical heads in their hands with that performance
    Yes, truly awful. Sorry to have missed it. I'm motivated to go and view the whole thing on catchup.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I thought i'd let you mention it. I'm a generous lover.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,855

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    I do not know why Davey doesn't just cross the floor

    Farage and Reform walking out in a childish fit reflects on just how dreadful they are
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,252

    nico67 said:

    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to prevent political parties taking untraceable anonymous money, especially in an age of malign foreign powers trying to buy influence in our politics. You'd think Reform would want to be "whiter than white" in this regard (no joke intended) what with their former Welsh leader doing time for taing Russian bribes.
    On this subject, did we ever find out which who provided that big payment to the leave campaign that was channeled through Northern Ireland to disguise its source?
    Seems perfectly reasonable to me and, in spite of Nico’s Reform obsession it would affect all parties.

    Of course Labour also has its own issues with Russian influence as well.

    Brexit happened,get over it.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,368

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I can't make a decision until @Brixian59 weighs in. He's the most unbiased commentator.
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,090

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    I do not know why Davey doesn't just cross the floor

    Farage and Reform walking out in a childish fit reflects on just how dreadful they are
    He was probably just gasping for a fag. Or maybe he had an urgent request to do one of those funny videos where he repeats far right memes.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 58,433

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    BJO fans, please explain.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 22,368
    DavidL said:

    Eabhal said:

    MelonB said:

    Electricity grid news: I think we are currently beating the all time record for renewables generation: over 30gw - 23.79 wind, 8.4 solar.

    Good timing for some bright breezy days considering the price and availability of gas.

    https://grid.iamkate.com/

    Don’t think I’ve ever seen gas that low at 1.2GW.
    But we are still importing 6.4% of our energy. We really need to close that gap and become a net exporter on days like this. (It was snowing in Aberdeen this morning).
    Just had white stuff falling here too, but hail, not snow. Bloody cold. I was in shorts at the weekend.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,252

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I thought i'd let you mention it. I'm a generous lover.
    I’m sure your right hand agrees as does your left when it’s time for a change
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,855

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    I do not know why Davey doesn't just cross the floor

    Farage and Reform walking out in a childish fit reflects on just how dreadful they are
    He was probably just gasping for a fag. Or maybe he had an urgent request to do one of those funny videos where he repeats far right memes.
    Or more likely to hear his funding is going up in smoke !!!!!
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 18,090
    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to prevent political parties taking untraceable anonymous money, especially in an age of malign foreign powers trying to buy influence in our politics. You'd think Reform would want to be "whiter than white" in this regard (no joke intended) what with their former Welsh leader doing time for taing Russian bribes.
    On this subject, did we ever find out which who provided that big payment to the leave campaign that was channeled through Northern Ireland to disguise its source?
    Seems perfectly reasonable to me and, in spite of Nico’s Reform obsession it would affect all parties.

    Of course Labour also has its own issues with Russian influence as well.

    Brexit happened,get over it.
    You don't need to tell me that, I spent an hour in a security line at Frankfurt Airport yesterday! Gave me plenty of time to curse the MFs who voted for it...
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 31,713

    HYUFD said:

    Barnesian said:

    HYUFD said:

    Brixian59 said:

    If Katie Lam is the future of anything then they are truly fucked.

    Personally I think the next Tory defection will be to LD in a strong LD area, from a moderate one nation Tory who is unable to accept Badenoch death March right right right.

    There aren't many Tory MPs from strong LD areas left though, most LD leaning areas in the likes of Surrey and Oxfordshire and Hertfordshire and Berkshire already went LD at the 2024 general election. The few who did hold on in those areas like Hunt will stay Tory regardless
    Here are the possible LD gains and the Tory candidates for defection to LDs:

    East Hampshire: Damian Hinds
    Farnham and Bordon: Gregory Stafford
    Godalming and Ash : Sir Jeremy Hunt
    Hamble Valley: Paul Holmes
    Romsey and Southampton North : Caroline Nokes
    North Cotswolds: Sir Geoffrey Clifton-Brown
    North Dorset: Simon Hoare

    All unlikely defectors I think.
    Indeed and less than 10% combined of the even relatively small current Tory parliamentary party, only ones I could see possibly going LD of those are Nokes and Hoare. Though if Cleverly replaced Badenoch as Tory leader after May I think even they would stay
    Some of those are very strange constituencies. Farnham (posh Surrey town) and Bordon (run down ex military town with a shitload of new housing) have very little in common, ditto Godalming (equally posh Surrey town) and Ash (suburb of Aldershot).
    Another bright idea from the Cameron days.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,229
    The problem with the Government's in the thrall of the mad Miliband narrative is that its energy policy is identical to the previous government's. Not similar, identical, with one and a half exceptions. The one exception is the previous ban on onshore wind farms. Not even Badenoch claims the country is in a better state Vis a Vis Iran because of a lack of wind energy. The half exception is that the previous government ignored its own policy on no new drilling in the North Sea.

    If Miliband is mad, logically the previous government was also mad for having the exact same policies. As a member of that government, Badenoch is simply drawing attention to her own supposed madness.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,851
    edited 1:31PM
    Scott_xP said:

    Trump is being spoonfed a video game version of the war in which the US is winning...

    @katiadoyl

    EXCLUSIVE: Each day since the start of the war, U.S. military officials compile a video update for President Trump that shows the biggest, most successful strikes on Iranian targets over the previous 48 hours.

    But the military can’t brief Trump on every strike and so the video, while it showcases U.S. capabilities, doesn’t reflect the full scope of the conflict.

    “We can’t tell him every single thing that happens,” a current U.S. official said. The official noted that Trump’s briefings tend to draw better feedback from his aides when they focus on U.S. victories.

    https://x.com/katiadoyl/status/2036761404984758507?s=20

    This alone is a scandal so huge it's barely comprehensible

    It was going to say it sounds like /r/combatfootage, but it can't be because that subreddit would also show the failiures and the successful Iranian strikes. So Trump would literally be better informed if he was doom scrolling.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881
    Taz said:

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I thought i'd let you mention it. I'm a generous lover.
    I’m sure your right hand agrees as does your left when it’s time for a change
    I dont change hands. I'm not a Frenchman
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 8,057

    Taz said:

    nico67 said:

    Looks like Reform will have to stop accepting dodgy money through cryptocurrency.

    I expect we’ll hear a load of whining about it being a witch hunt .

    Doesn't seem unreasonable to prevent political parties taking untraceable anonymous money, especially in an age of malign foreign powers trying to buy influence in our politics. You'd think Reform would want to be "whiter than white" in this regard (no joke intended) what with their former Welsh leader doing time for taing Russian bribes.
    On this subject, did we ever find out which who provided that big payment to the leave campaign that was channeled through Northern Ireland to disguise its source?
    Seems perfectly reasonable to me and, in spite of Nico’s Reform obsession it would affect all parties.

    Of course Labour also has its own issues with Russian influence as well.

    Brexit happened,get over it.
    You don't need to tell me that, I spent an hour in a security line at Frankfurt Airport yesterday! Gave me plenty of time to curse the MFs who voted for it...
    And the Europeans who can't run a border operation to save their lives. I waltzed through Cambodian, Singaporean and Malaysian airports over the winter, delays at the border are nothing to do whether we are in the EU or not, it is down to basic competence. After all, we are not in ASEAN but they don't feel the need to make us suffer.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,078

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I can't make a decision until @Brixian59 weighs in. He's the most unbiased commentator.
    If they say Badenoch won PMQs then we're living on Bizarro.
  • wooliedyedwooliedyed Posts: 16,881

    Starmer has gone viral with his head in his hands
    Davey outed himself again as a Labour super subscriber
    Reform did a walk out stunt that looked very foolish

    Not as dull as it seemed

    You're missing the biggie.

    Big John Owls said Starmer won PMQs.
    I can't make a decision until @Brixian59 weighs in. He's the most unbiased commentator.
    If they say Badenoch won PMQs then we're living on Bizarro.
    Clearly it was Sir Edward Leigh and his Point of Order as everyone rushed off to the canteen
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 15,535
    Nigelb said:

    .

    As I’ve said continuously I’m fully supportive of more North Sea oil drilling but I think the idea it would have any impact on energy bills is thin.

    Why are supportive of opening up new fields when the vast majority of experts say no? What do you know they don’t?

    https://theconversation.com/would-more-north-sea-drilling-lower-uk-energy-bills-our-analysis-says-no-278467

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-67945281

    https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-would-opening-up-north-sea-oil-again-resolve-the-current-energy-price-problems-for-the-uk

    Kemi and her front bench team are going to have to u-turn on this, so they are in future backed up by the science and the facts in what they are claiming.
    No they don't.
    They say it won't change oil and gas prices, which it won't.

    As a matter of economics, it will earn the country money, and won't make any difference at all to our oil and gas consumption.

    We could even put the £2bn or so extra that government might earn into solar plus grid backup projects.

    So there is no good argument not to do it.
    The Unions game here is wholly interested in taxpayers money keeping people in jobs, by government subsidising any industry, anywhere, that’s not economically viable or profit making. That’s what Unions are doing in the lobby.

    The industry lobby says it’s all government policy decision, not geology at all.
    Green Lobby says UK North Sea is waning due to geology, and UK policy is still too much commitment to drilling fossil fuel for far too long. Here’s an example of Green Lobby spin:
    https://www.upliftuk.org/post/the-declining-economics-of-the-north-sea

    North Sea policy is a war. There’s various sides, each have vested interest in not sticking to fact or balance - including government with their net zero policy, and the Conservatives who invented net zero policy in office, but prefer to argue Populist position against net zero in opposition.

    Truth is the first casualty of war. It’s very hard to for us to spot what’s smartest in long run with this one imho.
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