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Who will be the next Conservative MP to defect to Reform UK? Esther McVey is currently 4/1 second favourite in the bettinghttps://t.co/hgrDgDDIaj https://t.co/hYgB8G5GR4

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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,973
    Who cares?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,701
    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Rats joining the sinking ship.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,053
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Well, people who bet on or are interested in politics.

    So losers
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,200
    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436
    If talking to yourself is a sign of madness negotiating with yourself must represent a severe case.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 42,973
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Well, people who bet on or are interested in politics.

    Yebbut, how many of them can there be?
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,471

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 7,388

    If talking to yourself is a sign of madness negotiating with yourself must represent a severe case.

    The so called peace plan seems to be a re-hash of the one put forward last year which was rejected by Iran .
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 21,510
    Once again I am getting a noom bomb as I glide past South Gyle Business Park on the Edinburgh tram.
  • MelonBMelonB Posts: 16,933
    Reform have done well with defections of sitting MPs in the last couple of years. Well ahead of Labour. But which party holds the modern record for receiving most defections?

    That’s right folks: Change UK
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 47,200

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    I believe even the attendees of the rugby club dinner at which the joke was told were unamused and grossed out, which is saying something.

    On the larger picture it suggests Offord is shit at reading an audience, a bit of a disadvantage for an aspiring politician.
  • BattlebusBattlebus Posts: 2,773
    edited 7:48AM
    If I had to choose I’d back Katie Lam because I wonder if she is annoyed that her fellow new intake member Nick Timothy was promoted to the shadow cabinet over her when Robert Jenrick defected.)

    Never. Why would she spend so long in cultivating the Maggie Thatcher Tribute Act to waste all that work. She's the future of the Conservatives. [Insert Kemi is a dud here]
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    EV drivers might be even more smug during shortages, imagine how unbearable Mercedes and Audi EV drivers will be.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,245

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Thank you Trump and Bibi and fuck you too.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    People losing their jobs due to this need to remember Reform support Trump.
    Indeed, General Gung Ho Badenoch's comments at the start of the war will haunt her too.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Well, people who bet on or are interested in politics.

    It's a mug's market though.
    Dependent entirely on the whim of a few individuals, and prone to insider betting.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 58,645
    Esther McVey of GB News? That Esther McVey? 🤣
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    I believe even the attendees of the rugby club dinner at which the joke was told were unamused and grossed out, which is saying something.

    On the larger picture it suggests Offord is shit at reading an audience, a bit of a disadvantage for an aspiring politician.
    The 24 virgins from Inverness were grateful for the lack of attention though
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Thank you Trump and Bibi and fuck you too.
    That's a bit harsh towards DecrepiterJohnL.
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 6,097
    edited 7:59AM
    Again, like Lam, McVey represents a constituency where defecting to Reform just doesn't make much sense electorally, if continuing as an MP is your game plan.

    I don't rule it out, as ego could mean you think you are taking your personal brand with you to Reform, and believing your personal brand will be untarnished in a posh area by association with Reform.

    I think that would be an error of judgement additional to the primary error of joining with Farage in the first place.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    I believe even the attendees of the rugby club dinner at which the joke was told were unamused and grossed out, which is saying something.

    On the larger picture it suggests Offord is shit at reading an audience, a bit of a disadvantage for an aspiring politician.
    The 24 virgins from Inverness were grateful for the lack of attention though
    And all returned home with their hymens intact due to audience members being too grossed out
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,471

    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    People losing their jobs due to this need to remember Reform support Trump.
    Indeed, General Gung Ho Badenoch's comments at the start of the war will haunt her too.
    Will they? History suggests no-one cares what the Opposition says. I suppose it might affect backbenchers' views on their leader's soundness but I doubt even that.
  • Brixian59Brixian59 Posts: 1,665
    If Katie Lam is the future of anything then they are truly fucked.

    Personally I think the next Tory defection will be to LD in a strong LD area, from a moderate one nation Tory who is unable to accept Badenoch death March right right right.

  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436
    MelonB said:

    Reform have done well with defections of sitting MPs in the last couple of years. Well ahead of Labour. But which party holds the modern record for receiving most defections?

    That’s right folks: Change UK

    Who?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074

    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    People losing their jobs due to this need to remember Reform support Trump.
    Indeed, General Gung Ho Badenoch's comments at the start of the war will haunt her too.
    Will they? History suggests no-one cares what the Opposition says. I suppose it might affect backbenchers' views on their leader's soundness but I doubt even that.
    Election campaigns are now also fought on social media as well.

    A quick reel can damage a politician when they make a reverse ferret on something so profound.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,701

    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    People losing their jobs due to this need to remember Reform support Trump.
    Indeed, General Gung Ho Badenoch's comments at the start of the war will haunt her too.
    Will they? History suggests no-one cares what the Opposition says. I suppose it might affect backbenchers' views on their leader's soundness but I doubt even that.
    I agree. Badenoch's bellicosity won't make much difference as her comments are just irrelevant. Nominally LOTO, but we all know she is not.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Bank backed by Lord Mandelson fined £2m for fabricating finances

    The Bank of London Group misled the banking watchdog and ‘failed to act with integrity’


    A start-up bank whose board of directors previously included Lord Mandelson and a top Wall Street banker has been fined for misleading the regulator, including by fabricating documents about its finances.

    The Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) has fined The Bank of London Group Limited and a parent company £2 million for failing to act with integrity, failing to be open and co-operative and failing to maintain adequate financial resources. It was also found to have misled officials over their capital positions.

    The breaches warranted a £12 million fine, but the fine was reduced because it would have caused “serious financial hardship”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/business/companies-markets/article/bank-lord-mandelson-fabricating-finances-fl56qlt9f
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 61,838
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Thank you Trump and Bibi and fuck you too.
    The phrase you want is “Fuck you very much, Trump
    & Bibi”.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436
    edited 8:13AM
    Iran says a "message" in a bottle was found in the SOH

    Response Fuck you Trump & Bibi.

    Has anyone seen Taz and Iran in same room!
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,245

    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Thank you Trump and Bibi and fuck you too.
    The phrase you want is “Fuck you very much, Trump
    & Bibi”.
    In the words of Hylda Baker, thank you very glad.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Nigelb said:

    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.

    But Hunter Biden's laptop.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,697
    Good morning, everyone.

    Internet's been iffy. If there's no Japan stuff this will be why.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 23,436
    $200Bn was worth it - Trump to MIGA fans (post "ceasfire")

  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,788

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 55,701
    Nigelb said:

    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.

    It is not insane. The US is now a Trump family business, one like the Corleone family.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    We seem to have got into the mindset that the government can protect businesses and people from all exogenous risks. That’s just not affordable.

    The reality is that if a business can’t operate profitability at a given level of energy prices and that level is sustained then the business should shut down and the capital be redeployed
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,245
    A decent gag about Farage’s visit to Portman Road among all the pearl necklace clutches and fake offence

    https://x.com/oldgassy1984/status/2036538652969374032?s=61
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 2,571

    Bank backed by Lord Mandelson fined £2m for fabricating finances

    The Bank of London Group misled the banking watchdog and ‘failed to act with integrity’


    A start-up bank whose board of directors previously included Lord Mandelson and a top Wall Street banker has been fined for misleading the regulator, including by fabricating documents about its finances.

    The Prudential Regulation Authority (PRA) has fined The Bank of London Group Limited and a parent company £2 million for failing to act with integrity, failing to be open and co-operative and failing to maintain adequate financial resources. It was also found to have misled officials over their capital positions.

    The breaches warranted a £12 million fine, but the fine was reduced because it would have caused “serious financial hardship”.


    https://www.thetimes.com/business/companies-markets/article/bank-lord-mandelson-fabricating-finances-fl56qlt9f

    "Serious financial hardship"? Put it out of business?
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,765
    Nigelb said:

    Cookie said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Who cares?

    Well, people who bet on or are interested in politics.

    It's a mug's market though.
    Dependent entirely on the whim of a few individuals, and prone to insider betting.
    When McVey's other half is a well known punter, famously betting on his own defeat, this is definitely a market to avoid.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    Honest forget the homophobia - it’s just gross and unfunny
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 70,849
    edited 8:24AM
    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    Foxy said:

    Nigelb said:

    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.

    It is not insane. The US is now a Trump family business, one like the Corleone family.
    It's crazy that anyone outside of Trump's immediate circle accepts it.
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,245

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    Honest forget the homophobia - it’s just gross and unfunny
    Funny or not, why the pearl clutching. It’s bullshit. It’s all context. It was an after dinner speech.

    But Reform are no better calling for Jo Brand to be cancelled over a joke about Farage and battery acid. Again context is what matters.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,380
    edited 8:25AM
    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,009

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Presumably a lack of fuel will keep warships in port (and any other shipping too, of course).

    Good morning, everyone.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    edited 8:28AM
    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    I live in a big house, but we've got solar panels, a battery, and lots of energy efficiency upgrades, and in January 2022 I signed up for a 2 year fixed deal so I was protected from the shocks of the Ukraine war yet the government thought I should receive £400 to reduce my costs.

    As with my father's WFA that money went to the Trussell Trust but I am sure others weren't as generous as me.

    OGH used to make a point of using his WFA to top up his Betfair account to point out the absurdity of it, sadly since the bank bailouts, everybody wants to get bailed out when things get bad.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937
    MelonB said:

    Reform have done well with defections of sitting MPs in the last couple of years. Well ahead of Labour. But which party holds the modern record for receiving most defections?

    That’s right folks: Change UK

    May be someone could do a daily mail style “where are they now?” Header?
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,651
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    People losing their jobs due to this need to remember Reform support Trump.
    Aren't you a supporter of Farage? Or maybe I misread one of your recent posts.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,053
    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,765
    Dura_Ace said:

    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.

    I didn't have you down as a watcher of Corrie.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Dura_Ace said:

    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.

    Wait, you watch Coronation Street?
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,970
    AnneJGP said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    Presumably a lack of fuel will keep warships in port (and any other shipping too, of course).

    Good morning, everyone.
    That's the problem, more even than fuel becoming horribly expensive. Potentially fuel will just become unavailable, at any meaningful price.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 46,053

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    We seem to have got into the mindset that the government can protect businesses and people from all exogenous risks. That’s just not affordable.

    The reality is that if a business can’t operate profitability at a given level of energy prices and that level is sustained then the business should shut down and the capital be redeployed
    utter bollox, given the government gerrymanders teh energy prices so we are paying the highest in the world and getting the worst possible infrastructure due to incompetence and penny pinching.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 5,009

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 15,380

    Dura_Ace said:

    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.

    I didn't have you down as a watcher of Corrie.
    I instinctively mistrust and dislike anybody who doesn't watch it. It speaks to an unhealthy degree of societal detachment.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.

    I didn't have you down as a watcher of Corrie.
    I instinctively mistrust and dislike anybody who doesn't watch it. It speaks to an unhealthy degree of societal detachment.
    The last soap I watched was Sunset Beach during my student days, that show was properly bonkers.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 38,318
    edited 8:35AM
    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
    But the flip side is the Trump family have made a ton of money on Polymarket.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,970
    Taz said:

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    Honest forget the homophobia - it’s just gross and unfunny
    Funny or not, why the pearl clutching. It’s bullshit. It’s all context. It was an after dinner speech.

    But Reform are no better calling for Jo Brand to be cancelled over a joke about Farage and battery acid. Again context is what matters.
    Even then... A joke that might have been seen as OK at the end of a rugby club dinner thirty/forty years ago isn't seen as OK now.

    Even if some humourless wokery goes too far, some of it happened for a damn good reason.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 16,905
    Despite the defections threat, here is another question. The last time Reform failed to lead in a poll was the start of May 2025, when it tied with Labour on 26%. The last 17 polls have had Reform with single digit leads, the lowest being 2 points ahead of the Greens.

    How long from now will it be before a poll fails to give Reform a lead? And will it be before the May elections?
  • TazTaz Posts: 26,245

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    We seem to have got into the mindset that the government can protect businesses and people from all exogenous risks. That’s just not affordable.

    The reality is that if a business can’t operate profitability at a given level of energy prices and that level is sustained then the business should shut down and the capital be redeployed
    The reality is a lot of what we face and will face now with energy is as a result of inept govt policy.

    I agree that govt bailing us all out is not the solution

    But govt needs also to put in place policies that are pro business and help business, not fuck them over or leave business vulnerable to the whims of the Middle East.

    And it’s not just renewables. We need oil and gas whether we like it or not.

    With that I’m off to take an old friend, my bike, off for its final journey.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 21,970

    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
    But the flip side is the Trump family have made a ton of money on Polymarket.
    And a reckoning with the Epstein files has been postponed. The collateral damage... serves us suckers right.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,853
    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.

    AEP being even bleaker than usual this morning in Telegraph about all this.

    "The International Energy Agency (IEA) says 40 energy assets have been “severely or very severely damaged” across nine countries."

    "Trump had better do a deal with the Iranians by Friday or soon after – if he can find any interlocutor whom he has not yet killed, maimed or outed prematurely. If the Strait of Hormuz is closed for another month, it is game, set and match to the Russo-Chinese axis."

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/03/25/china-has-already-won-the-gulf-war/
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,788
    malcolmg said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    If only spongers on benefits are getting the help I doubt many will be in big detached houses , once again telling that you spew hatred on a handful of poor pensioners ( unlike the majority) who may have a decent house and no money.
    Is this the “asset rich, cash poor” shite again? There’s another word for that - “rich”.

    My grandparents downsized and then later went into sheltered housing to convert their wealth into income (and reduce their expenses). But they were public and family minded people who took personal responsibility for their finances and care needs. This country needs more people like them rather than the kind of grasper you want to protect.
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937
    Taz said:

    I believe there was some curiosity as to the homophobic joke told by ‘Lord’ Offord’. I’d say erring more on the gross, unfunny prick side of things.

    FYI

    https://x.com/ferroxghilie/status/2036617093504745497?s=46&t=fJymV-V84rexmlQMLXHHJQ

    The thing is I've often heard that joke or a variation from my gay friends.

    My reaction is generally disgust as I really don't need those images in my head.
    Honest forget the homophobia - it’s just gross and unfunny
    Funny or not, why the pearl clutching. It’s bullshit. It’s all context. It was an after dinner speech.

    But Reform are no better calling for Jo Brand to be cancelled over a joke about Farage and battery acid. Again context is what matters.
    My conclusion is that Offord is a douche with some pretty antiquated views. Not sure it warrants much more pearl clutching than that
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937

    Iran says a "message" in a bottle was found in the SOH

    Response Fuck you Trump & Bibi.

    Has anyone seen Taz and Iran in same room!

    Was there a sting in the tale?
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 12,937
    edited 8:40AM

    Iran says a "message" in a bottle was found in the SOH

    Response Fuck you Trump & Bibi.

    Has anyone seen Taz and Iran in same room!

    Duplicate
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 24,765
    Wordle in two, and a hotel breakfast.

    A positive start to the day.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    .
    Dura_Ace said:

    Dura_Ace said:

    I thought EMcV had already gone Fukker. It seems like the type of stupid shit she'd do and she has the Daytime TV look that Big Nige prefers for his candidates so probably a worthy fav.

    Katie Lam has an air of unquantifiable strangeness about her like Mary out of Corrie.

    I didn't have you down as a watcher of Corrie.
    I instinctively mistrust and dislike anybody who doesn't watch it. It speaks to an unhealthy degree of societal detachment.
    That's well over 90% of the population.

    But you could be right.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,788

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    I live in a big house, but we've got solar panels, a battery, and lots of energy efficiency upgrades, and in January 2022 I signed up for a 2 year fixed deal so I was protected from the shocks of the Ukraine war yet the government thought I should receive £400 to reduce my costs.

    As with my father's WFA that money went to the Trussell Trust but I am sure others weren't as generous as me.

    OGH used to make a point of using his WFA to top up his Betfair account to point out the absurdity of it, sadly since the bank bailouts, everybody wants to get bailed out when things get bad.
    If I were you, I’d be fuming if gas guzzlers got a handout. You should be rewarded for doing the right thing by your country (insert Elgar), not them.
  • eekeek Posts: 33,014
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    We seem to have got into the mindset that the government can protect businesses and people from all exogenous risks. That’s just not affordable.

    The reality is that if a business can’t operate profitability at a given level of energy prices and that level is sustained then the business should shut down and the capital be redeployed
    The reality is a lot of what we face and will face now with energy is as a result of inept govt policy.

    I agree that govt bailing us all out is not the solution

    But govt needs also to put in place policies that are pro business and help business, not fuck them over or leave business vulnerable to the whims of the Middle East.

    And it’s not just renewables. We need oil and gas whether we like it or not.

    With that I’m off to take an old friend, my bike, off for its final journey.
    Um - North Sea oil wouldn't even at its peak provided enough energy for us.

    So exactly what has the Government done wrong because we are shifting to renewables far faster than anyone thought we would.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,697

    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
    But the flip side is the Trump family have made a ton of money on Polymarket.
    Is Polymarket essentially similar to the Betfair Exchange?
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,478
    On domestic energy bills, I don't know what all the fuss is about. I've just received an email from my supplier telling me that my monthly DD is going down from £176 to £109. To say I was surprised is an understatement.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 13,788
    Taz said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    We seem to have got into the mindset that the government can protect businesses and people from all exogenous risks. That’s just not affordable.

    The reality is that if a business can’t operate profitability at a given level of energy prices and that level is sustained then the business should shut down and the capital be redeployed
    The reality is a lot of what we face and will face now with energy is as a result of inept govt policy.

    I agree that govt bailing us all out is not the solution

    But govt needs also to put in place policies that are pro business and help business, not fuck them over or leave business vulnerable to the whims of the Middle East.

    And it’s not just renewables. We need oil and gas whether we like it or not.

    With that I’m off to take an old friend, my bike, off for its final journey.
    I broadly agree with that. The problem with bailing out fossil fuel users is it perverts the incentive to get off them, leaving us vulnerable in the future (as we’re now experiencing post-Ukraine).

    If we’re going to help businesses, a universal cut in business rates, employer NICs would be the best option.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 70,853
    (((Dan Hodges))) reposted
    Andrew Snowden MP 🇬🇧
    @A_J_Snowden
    ·
    4m
    So, bets on PMQs this week?

    Kemi: When did you find out Morgan McSweeneys phone had been stolen and what did you do to recover and secure the critical data on it?

    Starmer: We’ve announced a new breakfast club in Barnsley.

    https://x.com/A_J_Snowden/status/2036724988120629739
  • boulayboulay Posts: 8,528
    Nigelb said:

    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.

    There was an article about the same Trump family member the other day in the NYT or similar about how his teachers were staggered when he suddenly received an offer from Harvard as his academic performance, scores, general engagement etc were a million miles away from Harvard standards.

    People were less staggered once they learned that his family had made a big fat donation to Harvard.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    edited 8:53AM

    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
    But the flip side is the Trump family have made a ton of money on Polymarket.
    Is Polymarket essentially similar to the Betfair Exchange?
    Yes and no.

    It’s a bit more Wild West than Betfair, with more insider training, and traders with a vested interest in making sure one side wins.

    Not as bad as Kalshi…

    https://www.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2026/03/01/always-always-check-the-terms-of-your-bets/
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    I live in a big house, but we've got solar panels, a battery, and lots of energy efficiency upgrades, and in January 2022 I signed up for a 2 year fixed deal so I was protected from the shocks of the Ukraine war yet the government thought I should receive £400 to reduce my costs.

    As with my father's WFA that money went to the Trussell Trust but I am sure others weren't as generous as me.

    OGH used to make a point of using his WFA to top up his Betfair account to point out the absurdity of it, sadly since the bank bailouts, everybody wants to get bailed out when things get bad.
    If I were you, I’d be fuming if gas guzzlers got a handout. You should be rewarded for doing the right thing by your country (insert Elgar), not them.
    I’ve accepted my lot in life, I will be punished for being successful and being prudent.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,651
    Becoming a Faragist in Tatton would kiled her social life stone dead. I know many people who live in Tatton my daughter being one and for all the loucheness associated with the area there's more chance they'd vote Zack than Farage
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,471

    AnneJGP said:

    Eabhal said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Depressing. I’d much rather businesses were given some kind of some support - low interest government loans or similar - than handouts to people who can shoulder this. Loans that could bd used to install solar, heat pumps, batteries.

    I include myself in this. We save for emergencies so can weather this out. We do huge mileage each year, but a lot of that is social, weekend driving that we can cut back on. We don’t need any help from the government.

    OTOH , we don’t use much gas because we live in an energy-efficient flat, appropriate for two young-ish adults. I’m not sure why people like me should bail out those in big, detached houses. They’ve made their choice.
    We live in a big detached house and are unlikely to be affected beyond what we can afford

    However, if those energy prices hit next week no amount of future investment in energy savings will prevent both huge price rises and many lost jobs

    This is a very serious crisis that has nightmare implications for all governments
    Everyone will be affected if there is no fuel. No transport, no deliveries, nothing in shops, and so on.
    But the flip side is the Trump family have made a ton of money on Polymarket.
    Is Polymarket essentially similar to the Betfair Exchange?
    Kalshi and Polymarket might loosely be thought of as Betfair on steroids with minimal regulation. Some markets are seemingly designed for manipulation and insider trading, such as the number of tweets Elon Musk makes in a day.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,925
    I think those who were going to defect to Reform even while Kemi is leader already have, the Tory right is now largely united behind her. If the local and devolved elections are poor for the Conservatives in May though and she loses a VONC and is replaced by a more moderate Conservative leader like Cleverly then you could see a handful of the Jenrickite hardcore cultural right of the party still join Farage, Lam, McVey and indeed Timothy himself would top that list.

    Timothy is clever but given he wrote the disastrous 2017 Tory manifesto I doubt any Tory leader would be too devastated at his loss
  • Northern_AlNorthern_Al Posts: 9,478
    algarkirk said:

    Arrests in .the Golders green ambulance attack.

    On which, I think the government deserves some credit for providing replacements for the ambulances destroyed so swiftly.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 127,074
    Including Man Utd players, Mohamed Salah is the eighth-highest PL scorer at Old Trafford in the 2020s

    https://x.com/oilysailor/status/2036535508575109478?s=46

    To be in the top 10 for goals at a stadium you only play at once a year is a level of disrespect we may never see again.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 58,009
    MelonB said:

    As I predicted, mandatory WFH here we come.

    If we're really lucky we might even get a de facto lockdown

    Huge energy price rises pile pressure on British companies

    Warning of businesses going under as cost of gas set to rise by as much as 80 per cent, while electricity bills to increase by up to 30 per cent


    Businesses across the UK are facing “eye-watering” rises in their energy bills because of the conflict in the Middle East, analysis for The Times suggests.

    Unlike households, companies are not insulated from volatility in gas and electricity prices, which have almost doubled since the Iran war began.

    The problem is particularly acute for the thousands of companies that fix their annual price tariff at the start of the financial year in April and will face an immediate sharp rise in their bills.

    Analysis by the energy consultancy Cornwall Insight found that as a result of the conflict, business users’ electricity bills would rise by up to 30 per cent, while the cost of gas could go up by as much as 80 per cent. This would mean that a business such as a larger retail and leisure site, on an average 12-month electricity contract, would have an annual bill of £578,000 — £95,000 more than early last month.

    For gas, bills have risen by £376,000, reaching just over £1.02 million a year, an increase of nearly 60 per cent, based on the latest wholesale prices.

    On Tuesday Wael Sawan, the chief executive of Shell, warned that Europe risked fuel shortages as soon as next month. At an industry conference in Houston, Texas, he said the global oil and gas supply squeeze had already forced parts of Asia to cut energy consumption and that the “ripple effect” threatened to spread west within days.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/huge-energy-price-rises-pile-pressure-on-british-companies-6w9m0j0xk

    Forget the price and the bills that take up most of that story and focus on the end: shortages. If there is no petrol, the price doesn't matter.

    The really bad news, as we saw after SMO inflation, is an upsurge in calls by misguided but influential pundits for tightening the money supply and higher interest rates to curb inflation. Idiots!
    One of the great logical fallacies of our times: that imported commodity inflation is somehow the fault of over-exuberant businesses and consumers and can best be held in check by choking off money supply.

    As you said, exactly the same problem in 2022: people who should know better failing to distinguish between home grown demand driven inflation and external supply shocks.
    I completely agree. The correct response to an external shock like this is to cut interest rates not increase them. And to reduce taxes so that any windfall gained by the government is available to maintain demand. And of course to reopen the North Sea but that is a longer term help not immediate.

    What we will get instead is a tightening of monetary policy by increases in base rates and the government spending lots of money it doesn’t have to boost consumption amongst its favoured clientele.

    Idiots.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 134,925
    Brixian59 said:

    If Katie Lam is the future of anything then they are truly fucked.

    Personally I think the next Tory defection will be to LD in a strong LD area, from a moderate one nation Tory who is unable to accept Badenoch death March right right right.

    There aren't many Tory MPs from strong LD areas left though, most LD leaning areas in the likes of Surrey and Oxfordshire and Hertfordshire and Berkshire already went LD at the 2024 general election. The few who did hold on in those areas like Hunt will stay Tory regardless
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,471
    algarkirk said:

    Arrests in .the Golders green ambulance attack.

    Amazing what police (and no doubt Shomrim) can do when they actually bother to look at cctv images.

    Iranian agents or random antisemites?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 87,522
    boulay said:

    Nigelb said:

    Saudi Leader Is Said to Push Trump to Continue Iran War in Recent Calls
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/politics/saudi-prince-iran-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VlA.tGWI.AzAFt1X9Mtfi&smid=url-share

    Absolutely insane that a corrupt Trump family member, with no official government position, and having recently received $2bn in Saudi funding for his business, is one of the two lead negotiators with Iran.

    There was an article about the same Trump family member the other day in the NYT or similar about how his teachers were staggered when he suddenly received an offer from Harvard as his academic performance, scores, general engagement etc were a million miles away from Harvard standards.

    People were less staggered once they learned that his family had made a big fat donation to Harvard.
    Dad is an ex con, a vile person, and ridiculously, US ambassador to France.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 35,471

    algarkirk said:

    Arrests in .the Golders green ambulance attack.

    On which, I think the government deserves some credit for providing replacements for the ambulances destroyed so swiftly.
    Yes and no. Other groups might be readying their own claims for free ambulances, if only to make political capital.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 19,228

    (((Dan Hodges))) reposted
    Andrew Snowden MP 🇬🇧
    @A_J_Snowden
    ·
    4m
    So, bets on PMQs this week?

    Kemi: When did you find out Morgan McSweeneys phone had been stolen and what did you do to recover and secure the critical data on it?

    Starmer: We’ve announced a new breakfast club in Barnsley.

    https://x.com/A_J_Snowden/status/2036724988120629739

    Of course she hasn't asked that question yet at PMQs and maybe she won't, but Starmer is lucky to have such a useless LotO facing him, despite his huge unpopularity.
  • Daveyboy1961Daveyboy1961 Posts: 5,400

    On domestic energy bills, I don't know what all the fuss is about. I've just received an email from my supplier telling me that my monthly DD is going down from £176 to £109. To say I was surprised is an understatement.

    That's a drop and a half. Do you think you may have been paying too much up to now?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 63,697
    F1: btw, Merc apparently investigated by FIA for rear and front wings closing at different times (beyond regulation).

    I'd be mildly miffed if they got disqualified from China, so Hamilton gets the win, as it's way past the time when my Hamilton to win bet would count as green.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 22,651

    (((Dan Hodges))) reposted
    Andrew Snowden MP 🇬🇧
    @A_J_Snowden
    ·
    4m
    So, bets on PMQs this week?

    Kemi: When did you find out Morgan McSweeneys phone had been stolen and what did you do to recover and secure the critical data on it?

    Starmer: We’ve announced a new breakfast club in Barnsley.

    https://x.com/A_J_Snowden/status/2036724988120629739

    Doesn't it tell you all you need to know about todays Tory Party that when the world is in real peril their MPs are staying awake at night debating whether Kemi should lead PMQs on the theft of Morgan McSweeney's phone?
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