Well, I think it raises an interesting point. What do people across the political spectrum say about non-capitalist activity? I personally think it's a good thing that what we do isn't purely about money, although it's obviously easier to say that behind a comfortable salary! I still think there was some merit in Cameron's Big Society (although I think he put too much of it on individuals rather than on corporations).
Mamdani's call evokes to me the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic when we looked out for our neighbours and the world appeared to be contracting. People have always come together during emergencies and that's something to be praised, not ridiculed.
Tres’s point is irrelevant whataboutery. Muh Tories.
New York regularly has snow. They should be paying people for the work. Do we expect people to grit the roads for free when we need it ?
there is literally a huge grit/sand box on my road for anyone to help themselves when it snows shrugemoji
Well, I think it raises an interesting point. What do people across the political spectrum say about non-capitalist activity? I personally think it's a good thing that what we do isn't purely about money, although it's obviously easier to say that behind a comfortable salary! I still think there was some merit in Cameron's Big Society (although I think he put too much of it on individuals rather than on corporations).
Mamdani's call evokes to me the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic when we looked out for our neighbours and the world appeared to be contracting. People have always come together during emergencies and that's something to be praised, not ridiculed.
Tres’s point is irrelevant whataboutery. Muh Tories.
New York regularly has snow. They should be paying people for the work. Do we expect people to grit the roads for free when we need it ?
there is literally a huge grit/sand box on my road for anyone to help themselves when it snows shrugemoji
Yep, same where I grew up. We cleared the pavement in front of the house (and for elderly neighbours for £10 and a hot chocolate) and used the grit bins for the road. The council would come round eventually but in 2009-10 etc you'd be waiting days/weeks.
We want to encourage people to get vaccinated and explain the science behind that but we cannot force them to be
We can. But the question is: should we? I can make a case for legally enforced vaccination of children, but i'd be trepadatious about putting it into a bill and thence to an act and law. People create their own realities online and the number of vaccine denialists is growing, which will eventually result in dead children. Do you want to put their mothers in jail? If so, why? If not, why not?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes. That's why I don't eat chicken tartare although I suppose I could wash it first. Yuk.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes it does.
That said, if you like your chicken very soft and barely cooked, it probably doesn't do any harm.
I tend to prefer my chicken well cooked and falling off the bone. Unlike life, I’m a leg and not a breast man. Greek style, marinaded, slow,cooked with med veg and a Greek salad. Bliss.
I just saw (and heard) noisy construction work on a neighbouring streets roof on a Sunday at 4.20pm with a very eclectic mix of "roofer" workers with no PPE, and a slightly burly bloke (British) constantly walking perimeter on his phone.
Hmm.
Breaking in to a bank vault?
No, doing a neighbour's roof. But one appeared to be wearing a turban, two others of middle eastern appearance, and none were wearing any protective equipment- it's also illegal to do this work on a Sunday.
I'm afraid my mind jumped to illegal workers. Several alarm bells and behaviours went off.
Well, they'd be breaking the first rule of criminality - only break one rule at a time. Why bring attention to yourself by working on a Sunday? It's a bit like people doing 100mph on the M74 with £3 million of coke in the boot.
I can (and most people building trade adjacent) spot illegal working from a hundred yards away.
Typically the employment (sub minimum wage) is the least of it.
The neighbours roof is nearly certainly fucked by the clowns in questions.
Edit : it’s the lack of proper equipment and the working hours that are the tells here. Anyone smart enough to do a good job on a roof, doesn’t want to fall off it, for example.
Point 1: Touched, as always, that politicians think that teachers are that powerful.
Point 2: CofE churches are outside the standard planning system anyway, and the last thing any church wants is to be listed.
Point 3: (Sgt Wilson voice) Are you sure that's entirely wise, sir?
Point 4: Now we get to the point. How much would high-profile expats stand to benefit from this, and where is the money coming from? To take a purely random example, Isabel Oakeshott?
It is very Trumpian, and quite cynical; the people at the top get juicy tax cuts, the people at the bottom are apparently dumb enough to be bought off with some culture war noises.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Feck of you pompous arsehole of a cretin. Same brain again you would be dangerous. The cooking kills anything , spreading it all over kitchen is for moronic cretins like yourself. GTF and when you get there GTF again.
You opened this discussion by calling me a crazy. If you enjoy dishing it out, don't be surprised if someone gives it back.
We want to encourage people to get vaccinated and explain the science behind that but we cannot force them to be
We can. But the question is: should we? I can make a case for legally enforced vaccination of children, but i'd be trepadatious about putting it into a bill and thence to an act and law. People create their own realities online and the number of vaccine denialists is growing, which will eventually result in dead children. Do you want to put their mothers in jail? If so, why? If not, why not?
There is an argument for parents who stop children getting vaccinated but adult vaccination is their choice
I see that Lucy Powell has written to Wacky Zacky, and gone in studs-first.
Time to put these Trots back in their box.
What did she say unto him?
Slagging off the Greens' dodgy polling, slagging off their highlighting dodgy betting movements, slagging off their lack of knowledge on the ground and slagging off Zack's lack of real interest in Manchester.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes. That's why I don't eat chicken tartare although I suppose I could wash it first. Yuk.
‘ Christian Nègre, a former French Culture Ministry official is accused of drugging over 240 women with diuretics during fake job interviews, then forcing humiliating walks to observe their loss of bladder control, which he documented in an Excel spreadsheet detailing intimate details like underwear color.
“He stands accused of drugging a total of 248 women. The women recounted how he would spike their coffee and tea with powerful diuretics and then take them on long walks to watch them squirm. The apparent aim was to chart their descent into humiliation.”
We want to encourage people to get vaccinated and explain the science behind that but we cannot force them to be
We can. But the question is: should we? I can make a case for legally enforced vaccination of children, but i'd be trepadatious about putting it into a bill and thence to an act and law. People create their own realities online and the number of vaccine denialists is growing, which will eventually result in dead children. Do you want to put their mothers in jail? If so, why? If not, why not?
If the number of vaccine denialists is growing, doesn't that imply it gives adherents some kind of survival edge?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just reinforces that by requiring planning permission too
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes it does.
That said, if you like your chicken very soft and barely cooked, it probably doesn't do any harm.
I don't do it to rid the chicken of bacteria, I do it to check the chicken is OK, and to wash off the residue from plastic packaging.
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
I see that Lucy Powell has written to Wacky Zacky, and gone in studs-first.
Time to put these Trots back in their box.
What did she say unto him?
Slagging off the Greens' dodgy polling, slagging off their highlighting dodgy betting movements, slagging off their lack of knowledge on the ground and slagging off Zack's lack of real interest in Manchester.
It seems to be open season on the greens.
Apparently their plumber candidate lives in a massive house in Hale so cannot empathise with G&D.
Labour kicking the Greens. I wouldn’t be surprised for Labour to be happy to lose to Reform so,they could simply blame the Greens as a pitch to,get voters back.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
I prefer to use a meat thermometer, Big_G.
A prick test sounds like a good way of stuffing it.
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
Do you think it might catch on in the Sandpit with those fantastic dust storms to come over? You never know what you might find when you dig out the airport car park.
That’s a true story. It was a British fraudster’s Ferrari and it was impounded when he fled the UAE to avoid arrest.
Cars get very dirty when left outside for only a couple of weeks, covered in sand even in the city.
What does it do to your lungs then ?
That’s why we don’t spend too much time outside here! At the moment I’m working in a plant with a lot of chemicals around, just to add to it. If I ever seem even crazier than normal, you’ll know why!
Point 1: Touched, as always, that politicians think that teachers are that powerful.
Point 2: CofE churches are outside the standard planning system anyway, and the last thing any church wants is to be listed.
Point 3: (Sgt Wilson voice) Are you sure that's entirely wise, sir?
Point 4: Now we get to the point. How much would high-profile expats stand to benefit from this, and where is the money coming from? To take a purely random example, Isabel Oakeshott?
It is very Trumpian, and quite cynical; the people at the top get juicy tax cuts, the people at the bottom are apparently dumb enough to be bought off with some culture war noises.
Those expats may create new paid jobs on their return too to benefit people at the bottom
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
I prefer to use a meat thermometer, Big_G.
Same here. Although I use it for a myriad of other cooking applications too.
One of the things I cannot do,without in the kitchen, or would miss greatly.
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
Well for starters any church to be used for another purpose has to be deconsecrated first.
Second, Christians also need somewhere to worship in their community, even if say only 10 of them in a majority Muslim part of Luton or Bradford or Newham.
The C of E has billions in assets and millions in income it should use to keep them going
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
And there is your problem
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
There are plenty of growing Pentecostal churches for example who could take some over. The Bishop of Lincoln has been arrested and suspended from the C of E but he has not been charged or convicted and may be acquitted so we should not be speculating on that
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
I prefer to use a meat thermometer, Big_G.
A prick test sounds like a good way of stuffing it.
Does that mean we have to interview the chicken before cooking it?
“So chicken, what do you think of Tommy Robinson?”
I see that Lucy Powell has written to Wacky Zacky, and gone in studs-first.
Time to put these Trots back in their box.
What did she say unto him?
Slagging off the Greens' dodgy polling, slagging off their highlighting dodgy betting movements, slagging off their lack of knowledge on the ground and slagging off Zack's lack of real interest in Manchester.
It seems to be open season on the greens.
Apparently their plumber candidate lives in a massive house in Hale so cannot empathise with G&D.
Labour kicking the Greens. I wouldn’t be surprised for Labour to be happy to lose to Reform so,they could simply blame the Greens as a pitch to,get voters back.
So vote for a man with a posh house in the Home Counties?
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Indeed we had a civil war in part over a new prayer book...
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
And there is your problem
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
Do you, and if not why ?
No it doesn't, the Ten Commandments are black and white for starters and the teachings of Christ are also pretty clear.
From Leviticus to Paul there is plenty anti same sex sex and while Jesus did not oppose specifically he made clear matrimony was between one man and one woman for life
Thinking of the comments earlier by progressive types about people needing to man up etc..
In my unDicatorship, Crom will become the official religion of the country
- You never, ever pray to Crom. No, that film is wrong. - You never pray to him because he has already given you everything you deserve. - Praying to him would be whinny and greedy. - Crom steps on the whinny and the greedy. - Building temples? Fuck no. You don’t want his attention.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
And there is your problem
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
Do you, and if not why ?
No it doesn't, the Ten Commandments are black and white for starters and the teachings of Christ are also pretty clear.
From Leviticus to Paul there is plenty anti same sex sex and while Jesus did not oppose specifically he made clear matrimony was between one man and one woman for life
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
We need more ruined churches in remote places.
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
Do you think we should hold all our property in common like the Christian communities described in Acts?
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
I don’t think you police who can vote Tory!
What do you make of Boris repeatedly breaking the commandment about adukttery? Should he be barred from office, banished from politics for this unchristian behaviour?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes. That's why I don't eat chicken tartare although I suppose I could wash it first. Yuk.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Good evening
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
One reason why Andy John had limited support in the Diocese of Bangor after the row over Bangor Cathedral erupted was that he had been working assiduously to close churches in the diocese. This was part of a wider thing in the Church in Wales to close those churches that have no congregations and are not historically interesting ('if it's Victorian, it's gone' is the mantra) to try and preserve the rest.
It was incredibly unpopular, although it is being pushed out throughout Wales. It was piloted in Bangor largely because due to a financial crisis following a disastrous court case in 2006-2007 they had no money and therefore no choice in the matter.
In terms of Stephen Conway , whom I think you are referring to with the dodgy Archdeacon remark, another aspect of this is he was a very close associate of Welby. Don't underestimate the politics at play in that.
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
There are plenty of growing Pentecostal churches for example who could take some over. The Bishop of Lincoln has been arrested and suspended from the C of E but he has not been charged or convicted and may be acquitted so we should not be speculating on that
I'd be more inclined to attend if they were singing Edwin Hawkins songs rather than dirges in Welsh. I am not sure there are many Southern Pentecostalists in Burry Port (or Muslims for that matter).
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
One of my lecturers, the great Peter Lambert, refused to drink in the pub that had opened in the old St Paul's Methodist Chapel in Aberystwyth.
As an atheist, he was deeply uncomfortable with the religious setting, but he also felt it was totally inappropriate to have a boozer in a chapel closely associated with the temperance movement.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes it does.
That said, if you like your chicken very soft and barely cooked, it probably doesn't do any harm.
I don't do it to rid the chicken of bacteria, I do it to check the chicken is OK, and to wash off the residue from plastic packaging.
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
There are plenty of growing Pentecostal churches for example who could take some over. The Bishop of Lincoln has been arrested and suspended from the C of E but he has not been charged or convicted and may be acquitted so we should not be speculating on that
I'd be more inclined to attend if they were singing Edwin Hawkins songs rather than dirges in Welsh. I am not sure there are many Southern Pentecostalists in Burry Port (or Muslims for that matter).
If it’s Sreamin’ Jay Hawkins then it would be fun.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
I agree with @boulay, am a Christian, and vote conservative
You disagree with @boulay, are a Christian, and vote conservative
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
One reason why Andy John had limited support in the Diocese of Bangor after the row over Bangor Cathedral erupted was that he had been working assiduously to close churches in the diocese. This was part of a wider thing in the Church in Wales to close those churches that have no congregations and are not historically interesting ('if it's Victorian, it's gone' is the mantra) to try and preserve the rest.
It was incredibly unpopular, although it is being pushed out throughout Wales. It was piloted in Bangor largely because due to a financial crisis following a disastrous court case in 2006-2007 they had no money and therefore no choice in the matter.
In terms of Stephen Conway , whom I think you are referring to with the dodgy Archdeacon remark, another aspect of this is he was a very close associate of Welby. Don't underestimate the politics at play in that.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes it does.
That said, if you like your chicken very soft and barely cooked, it probably doesn't do any harm.
I don't do it to rid the chicken of bacteria, I do it to check the chicken is OK, and to wash off the residue from plastic packaging.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
I don’t think you police who can vote Tory!
What do you make of Boris repeatedly breaking the commandment about adukttery?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Feck of you pompous arsehole of a cretin. Same brain again you would be dangerous. The cooking kills anything , spreading it all over kitchen is for moronic cretins like yourself. GTF and when you get there GTF again.
You opened this discussion by calling me a crazy. If you enjoy dishing it out, don't be surprised if someone gives it back.
Helps if you have the brains to comment on the topic rather than try to insult the poster with your ignorance. Any fool knows you are better not to wash chicken as it will spread any bacteria. Ignorance does not get covered by insults. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
And there is your problem
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
Do you, and if not why ?
No it doesn't, the Ten Commandments are black and white for starters and the teachings of Christ are also pretty clear.
From Leviticus to Paul there is plenty anti same sex sex and while Jesus did not oppose specifically he made clear matrimony was between one man and one woman for life
So how come God didn't marry the mother of His only begotten son, then?
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
We need more ruined churches in remote places.
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
#CuthuluForPM
At least it could still be used as a community asset. I am sure the fine organ could be put to good use too for Demonic purposes. Although I have found a flaw in the plan. Are there still any sacrificial virgins in the Greater Llanelli area?
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
I appreciate that your religion is very important to you but I would rather schools taught the lessons of the enlightenment than any religion. There are too many elements of religion which are unbending and are rules for a different world where homosexuality risked reducing the children born into a tribe, where eating pork and shellfish could kill. Even the quasi-socialist teachings of Jesus would be a bit questionable in the country we live in. Should we ban money lending?
Well fine, go off and vote Green or Labour then.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
I don’t think you police who can vote Tory!
What do you make of Boris repeatedly breaking the commandment about adukttery?
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Feck of you pompous arsehole of a cretin. Same brain again you would be dangerous. The cooking kills anything , spreading it all over kitchen is for moronic cretins like yourself. GTF and when you get there GTF again.
You opened this discussion by calling me a crazy. If you enjoy dishing it out, don't be surprised if someone gives it back.
Helps if you have the brains to comment on the topic rather than try to insult the poster with your ignorance. Any fool knows you are better not to wash chicken as it will spread any bacteria. Ignorance does not get covered by insults. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
Don't go bringing Science into a thread on that subject!
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
A Spoons ? Like former banks become ?
A former pub in my town is being turned into a nursery.
There’s an old church in Tynemouth which has been turned into a hub with craft shops and bars called Land of Green Ginger. It’s nice. I like Vineyard 72 for the charcuterie and wine.
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
We need more ruined churches in remote places.
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
#CuthuluForPM
We've just got rid of McSweeney, and Cummings wasn't that long ago. Can we try not summoning anyone for a bit?
(There is a genuine problem with church buildings, though not so much in remote places as Victorian inner suburbs of cities. They were built with way too many churches at the time, because it was relatively easy and cheap to put up a great big barn to the glory of your personal version of God. Even before ethnic changes, they were a bit of a millstone, and now they are a massive burden for the faithful handful worshipping in them. That's before considering that, as Victorian barns, size often trumped build quality for the ages.
Where they can be repurposed sensitively, great- though emotionally challenging for the priest and people involved. But not always possible. And almost certainly not something that the state should interfere in. Beyond that- if you want your local church building to survive, find a way to drop them some cash from time to time. They'll generally use it well.)
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Does cooking not kill the bacteria?
Yes it does.
That said, if you like your chicken very soft and barely cooked, it probably doesn't do any harm.
I don't do it to rid the chicken of bacteria, I do it to check the chicken is OK, and to wash off the residue from plastic packaging.
1. How patriotic is Christianity, not a British origin religion. Go back to Druidism if they want true British values. Religion should be out of the classroom in all ways, it should be purely personal.
2. If Christians don’t use churches and there is a risk of them falling apart it’s better they are used for whatever purpose, nightclubs, community centres, weather spoons or mosques.
3. Fair enough.
4. Absolutely right, not just expats, anyone who agrees to set up a business in the UK generating x in corporate tax and/or employing a certain number of UK people should be offered big personal tax incentives.
1 Christian values have been the basis of British culture for over a 1000 years.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just enforces that.
Problem is even Christian's do not agree with each other on these so called values
Well they should be based on what is in the Bible, especially the teachings of Christ
And there is your problem
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
Do you, and if not why ?
No it doesn't, the Ten Commandments are black and white for starters and the teachings of Christ are also pretty clear.
From Leviticus to Paul there is plenty anti same sex sex and while Jesus did not oppose specifically he made clear matrimony was between one man and one woman for life
Well your boys Trump and Boris are, well how can I put this? F***ed.
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Feck of you pompous arsehole of a cretin. Same brain again you would be dangerous. The cooking kills anything , spreading it all over kitchen is for moronic cretins like yourself. GTF and when you get there GTF again.
You opened this discussion by calling me a crazy. If you enjoy dishing it out, don't be surprised if someone gives it back.
Helps if you have the brains to comment on the topic rather than try to insult the poster with your ignorance. Any fool knows you are better not to wash chicken as it will spread any bacteria. Ignorance does not get covered by insults. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
How will it spread bacteria "everywhere" if you wash the chicken in the sink? Wipe the sink clean with Cif or Flash or whatever? And then wash your hands thoroughly with soap?
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
There are plenty of growing Pentecostal churches for example who could take some over. The Bishop of Lincoln has been arrested and suspended from the C of E but he has not been charged or convicted and may be acquitted so we should not be speculating on that
I'd be more inclined to attend if they were singing Edwin Hawkins songs rather than dirges in Welsh. I am not sure there are many Southern Pentecostalists in Burry Port (or Muslims for that matter).
If it’s Sreamin’ Jay Hawkins then it would be fun.
I see that Lucy Powell has written to Wacky Zacky, and gone in studs-first.
Time to put these Trots back in their box.
What did she say unto him?
Slagging off the Greens' dodgy polling, slagging off their highlighting dodgy betting movements, slagging off their lack of knowledge on the ground and slagging off Zack's lack of real interest in Manchester.
It seems to be open season on the greens.
Apparently their plumber candidate lives in a massive house in Hale so cannot empathise with G&D.
Labour kicking the Greens. I wouldn’t be surprised for Labour to be happy to lose to Reform so,they could simply blame the Greens as a pitch to,get voters back.
So vote for a man with a posh house in the Home Counties?
I wouldn’t vote for either but, in terms of attacks sauce for the goose and all that. Labour are really going in studs up on The Greens now and, from my social media, seem to be easing off on Reform.
Ties in with the change of tone Brixian is discussing.
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
A Spoons ? Like former banks become ?
A former pub in my town is being turned into a nursery.
There’s an old church in Tynemouth which has been turned into a hub with craft shops and bars called Land of Green Ginger. It’s nice. I like Vineyard 72 for the charcuterie and wine.
A few here in North Wales have been converted to delighful tea rooms complete with pulpit and gallery
I'm not sure how much traction all this "culture wars" nonsense outside the Reform/Restore/Conservative side of the fence.
I live opposite a Church and know the Vicar fairly well. Financially, despite what some would have you believe, she tells me it's a struggle. The Church and especially its hall is booked out by all sorts of groups from maths/english tutors to evangelical Christians. There are Sunday services in English and Tamil for the local Hindu community.
Yet she relies on volunteers to do most of the small scale repairs and mainteance both at the Church and the vicarage.
It's a focal point for the immediate locality and the only Church nearby while the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus all have their places of worship on the High Street.
As for Yusuf - I think children and young people should be exposed to the basic tenets of a number of faiths and belief systems. I'm not entirely sure what a "patriotic curriculum based on Christianity" means. The Norman Conquest was supported by the Pope and as I recall we broke with the Church of Rome so Henry VIII could re-marry and in WW1, I'm pretty sure while we might have claimed we had God on our side, I'm pretty sure the Germans thought the same.
I'm interested to see how we can undercut Dubai and Singapore in terms of personal taxation given even the post-Brexit Conservatives realised Singapore-on-Thames was a non-starter.
I'll be interested to see how Badenoch and Stride react to Yususf's ideas. Our resident Conservative seems to be more interested in attacking the critiques of others rather than stating his own view - does he have an opinion or is he waiting for Kemi to tell him what to think?
We want to encourage people to get vaccinated and explain the science behind that but we cannot force them to be
We can. But the question is: should we? I can make a case for legally enforced vaccination of children, but i'd be trepadatious about putting it into a bill and thence to an act and law. People create their own realities online and the number of vaccine denialists is growing, which will eventually result in dead children. Do you want to put their mothers in jail? If so, why? If not, why not?
If the number of vaccine denialists is growing, doesn't that imply it gives adherents some kind of survival edge?
Hmm. It's like autocannibalism. It gives you an initial edge, then all at once...splat
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
We need more ruined churches in remote places.
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
#CuthuluForPM
At least it could still be used as a community asset. I am sure the fine organ could be put to good use too for Demonic purposes. Although I have found a flaw in the plan. Are there still any sacrificial virgins in the Greater Llanelli area?
Whatever floats one's boat.
Indeed, without an organ to play “Toccata and Fugue in D Minor.”, who can be truly classy supervillain?
Perhaps we need a Supervillain Business Enterprise zone?
If we could get Dr Doom to take over Slough, say….
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
We need more ruined churches in remote places.
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
#CuthuluForPM
We've just got rid of McSweeney, and Cummings wasn't that long ago. Can we try not summoning anyone for a bit?
(There is a genuine problem with church buildings, though not so much in remote places as Victorian inner suburbs of cities. They were built with way too many churches at the time, because it was relatively easy and cheap to put up a great big barn to the glory of your personal version of God. Even before ethnic changes, they were a bit of a millstone, and now they are a massive burden for the faithful handful worshipping in them. That's before considering that, as Victorian barns, size often trumped build quality for the ages.
Where they can be repurposed sensitively, great- though emotionally challenging for the priest and people involved. But not always possible. And almost certainly not something that the state should interfere in. Beyond that- if you want your local church building to survive, find a way to drop them some cash from time to time. They'll generally use it well.)
Agree with that, in rural areas and villages like ours the C of E church is normally the only one of any denomination in the area, so we get Roman Catholics attending services in them too as well as evangelical Protestants.
In urban areas though especially big cities though there are already lots of churches but no reason growing denominations like Pentecostals can't take them over from fading denominations like the Methodists and Quakers and URC
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
A Spoons ? Like former banks become ?
A former pub in my town is being turned into a nursery.
There’s an old church in Tynemouth which has been turned into a hub with craft shops and bars called Land of Green Ginger. It’s nice. I like Vineyard 72 for the charcuterie and wine.
You could rent or buy this one. It's been offices for about 30 years. They used to peal the bells in that beautiful bell tower when I was a kid.
Why shouldn’t a church be converted to a Mosque if there’s no demand for the former in the area but plenty of demand for the latter ?
Prevent seem obsessed with the Far Right, like the lecturer who showed a class a Donald Trump video, this was a class studying US politics. He ended up losing his job and was accused of causing his students ‘emotional harm ‘
As it was set up for Christian worship and if Muslims want a new Mosque they can build one
What is the point of an underutilised/unused building in a mainly Muslim area ? Repurpose it.
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
I like it to be appropriate. Churches turned into nursery schools, nice cafes and craft shops I am happy with. Tattoo parlours no. I just don’t like it. Respect the spirit and heritage of the place.
A Spoons ? Like former banks become ?
A former pub in my town is being turned into a nursery.
There’s an old church in Tynemouth which has been turned into a hub with craft shops and bars called Land of Green Ginger. It’s nice. I like Vineyard 72 for the charcuterie and wine.
We should be pressuring to keep more of our banks open and using our pubs more too
Greenhouse gases are not injurious to human health as far as I am aware.
Neither is raw chicken but you still wash it in your sink
I never wash raw chicken. Why does anyone?
Big no no as you spead any bacteria everywhere, only crazies wash chicken
I wash chicken. If you don't clean your kitchen (as it appears your household doesn't) it is probably best to avoid doing it, as you can spread bacteria that can then fester in unwashed spaces.
Feck of you pompous arsehole of a cretin. Same brain again you would be dangerous. The cooking kills anything , spreading it all over kitchen is for moronic cretins like yourself. GTF and when you get there GTF again.
You opened this discussion by calling me a crazy. If you enjoy dishing it out, don't be surprised if someone gives it back.
Helps if you have the brains to comment on the topic rather than try to insult the poster with your ignorance. Any fool knows you are better not to wash chicken as it will spread any bacteria. Ignorance does not get covered by insults. Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it.
How will it spread bacteria "everywhere" if you wash the chicken in the sink? Wipe the sink clean with Cif or Flash or whatever? And then wash your hands thoroughly with soap?
Well, you could wash your chicken in strong chlorinated solution….
How will it spread bacteria "everywhere" if you wash the chicken in the sink? Wipe the sink clean with Cif or Flash or whatever? And then wash your hands thoroughly with soap?
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and this was child labour.
I do not wash chicken but ensure it is prepared correctly , cooked, and prick tested for temperature
You can spread more bacteria by washing it
https://www.safefood.net/food-safety/preparing-food/raw-poultry
Typically the employment (sub minimum wage) is the least of it.
The neighbours roof is nearly certainly fucked by the clowns in questions.
Edit : it’s the lack of proper equipment and the working hours that are the tells here. Anyone smart enough to do a good job on a roof, doesn’t want to fall off it, for example.
I feel should we ever meet Malc IRL he would be a very eloquent and dapper Monarch of the Glen type of Scotsman
Point 2: CofE churches are outside the standard planning system anyway, and the last thing any church wants is to be listed.
Point 3: (Sgt Wilson voice) Are you sure that's entirely wise, sir?
Point 4: Now we get to the point. How much would high-profile expats stand to benefit from this, and where is the money coming from? To take a purely random example, Isabel Oakeshott?
It is very Trumpian, and quite cynical; the people at the top get juicy tax cuts, the people at the bottom are apparently dumb enough to be bought off with some culture war noises.
You do not need to be indoctrinated into a religion to take pride in lots of things
And I talk as a Christian confirmed into the COE and years assisting holy communion
You do not unite people by dividing them
It’s one after another with these creeps.
‘ Christian Nègre, a former French Culture Ministry official is accused of drugging over 240 women with diuretics during fake job interviews, then forcing humiliating walks to observe their loss of bladder control, which he documented in an Excel spreadsheet detailing intimate details like underwear color.
“He stands accused of drugging a total of 248 women. The women recounted how he would spike their coffee and tea with powerful diuretics and then take them on long walks to watch them squirm. The apparent aim was to chart their descent into humiliation.”
https://x.com/womenreadwomen/status/2025578638242943308?s=61
He may be referring to chapels.
2 C of E churches are normally grade listed so often restricted in use, they normally also require a deed of variation to be used for non Christian worship but this just reinforces that by requiring planning permission too
Apparently their plumber candidate lives in a massive house in Hale so cannot empathise with G&D.
Labour kicking the Greens. I wouldn’t be surprised for Labour to be happy to lose to Reform so,they could simply blame the Greens as a pitch to,get voters back.
LOL
Same if former churches are turned into residences or pubs.
It’s just a building. Bricks and mortar.
HYUFD, You can buy my late father's childhood chapel for £75,000 in order to save it for the nation. No? Well OK.
https://www.rightmove.co.uk/properties/154619648#/?channel=COM_BUY
It would seem like a worthwhile exercise to convert it to some other religious function rather, than as is most likely, it remains unsold and goes to rack and ruin.
These Chapels in Wales are dying out as their congregations die out. The CoE has the march on the non-conformists for their survival at least, although this week's news about another dodgy Archdeacon could ensure a swifter than expected demise.
Anyway, how did Sir Boris get on with Kuennsberg this morning? Was he gorgeous?
One of the things I cannot do,without in the kitchen, or would miss greatly.
Second, Christians also need somewhere to worship in their community, even if say only 10 of them in a majority Muslim part of Luton or Bradford or Newham.
The C of E has billions in assets and millions in income it should use to keep them going
Interpretation of the scriptures varies as does Christ teachings
I believe all gay couples should be married if they wish in a Church
Do you, and if not why ?
“So chicken, what do you think of Tommy Robinson?”
“Great lad”
“Prick, in the oven you go”
From Leviticus to Paul there is plenty anti same sex sex and while Jesus did not oppose specifically he made clear matrimony was between one man and one woman for life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLIeY685VI
In my unDicatorship, Crom will become the official religion of the country
- You never, ever pray to Crom. No, that film is wrong.
- You never pray to him because he has already given you everything you deserve.
- Praying to him would be whinny and greedy.
- Crom steps on the whinny and the greedy.
- Building temples? Fuck no. You don’t want his attention.
Reform aren't targeting the likes of you but traditional British patriots who like our Christian heritage. Even Jesus praised prudent investment in the Parable of the Talents
Where else will eldritch cults go to conduct their ceremonies to summon demons from other dimensions?
#CuthuluForPM
What do you make of Boris repeatedly breaking the commandment about adukttery? Should he be barred from office, banished from politics for this unchristian behaviour?
It was incredibly unpopular, although it is being pushed out throughout Wales. It was piloted in Bangor largely because due to a financial crisis following a disastrous court case in 2006-2007 they had no money and therefore no choice in the matter.
In terms of Stephen Conway , whom I think you are referring to with the dodgy Archdeacon remark, another aspect of this is he was a very close associate of Welby. Don't underestimate the politics at play in that.
As an atheist, he was deeply uncomfortable with the religious setting, but he also felt it was totally inappropriate to have a boozer in a chapel closely associated with the temperance movement.
You disagree with @boulay, are a Christian, and vote conservative
Jesus said
'In my Father's house there are many mansions'
Whatever floats one's boat.
A former pub in my town is being turned into a nursery.
There’s an old church in Tynemouth which has been turned into a hub with craft shops and bars called Land of Green Ginger. It’s nice. I like Vineyard 72 for the charcuterie and wine.
(There is a genuine problem with church buildings, though not so much in remote places as Victorian inner suburbs of cities. They were built with way too many churches at the time, because it was relatively easy and cheap to put up a great big barn to the glory of your personal version of God. Even before ethnic changes, they were a bit of a millstone, and now they are a massive burden for the faithful handful worshipping in them. That's before considering that, as Victorian barns, size often trumped build quality for the ages.
Where they can be repurposed sensitively, great- though emotionally challenging for the priest and people involved. But not always possible. And almost certainly not something that the state should interfere in. Beyond that- if you want your local church building to survive, find a way to drop them some cash from time to time. They'll generally use it well.)
Ties in with the change of tone Brixian is discussing.
However science isn't its own best friend. Most 'science' is absolute waste paper. Endless crap.
As the world abounds with physicists that have PhDs from corner shops it should come as no surprise that little progress is made.
Pontcysyllte Chapel Tea Room https://share.google/y8wHtQtDFXkfzVnMb
“John Barron” just called @CSPAN to complain about the Supreme Court nuking Trump’s tariffs.
Yes — that John Barron.
The fake name Trump used for decades.
They cut him off mid-call.
https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2025557961595089053
I'm not sure how much traction all this "culture wars" nonsense outside the Reform/Restore/Conservative side of the fence.
I live opposite a Church and know the Vicar fairly well. Financially, despite what some would have you believe, she tells me it's a struggle. The Church and especially its hall is booked out by all sorts of groups from maths/english tutors to evangelical Christians. There are Sunday services in English and Tamil for the local Hindu community.
Yet she relies on volunteers to do most of the small scale repairs and mainteance both at the Church and the vicarage.
It's a focal point for the immediate locality and the only Church nearby while the Muslims, Sikhs and Hindus all have their places of worship on the High Street.
As for Yusuf - I think children and young people should be exposed to the basic tenets of a number of faiths and belief systems. I'm not entirely sure what a "patriotic curriculum based on Christianity" means. The Norman Conquest was supported by the Pope and as I recall we broke with the Church of Rome so Henry VIII could re-marry and in WW1, I'm pretty sure while we might have claimed we had God on our side, I'm pretty sure the Germans thought the same.
I'm interested to see how we can undercut Dubai and Singapore in terms of personal taxation given even the post-Brexit Conservatives realised Singapore-on-Thames was a non-starter.
I'll be interested to see how Badenoch and Stride react to Yususf's ideas. Our resident Conservative seems to be more interested in attacking the critiques of others rather than stating his own view - does he have an opinion or is he waiting for Kemi to tell him what to think?
Perhaps we need a Supervillain Business Enterprise zone?
If we could get Dr Doom to take over Slough, say….
In urban areas though especially big cities though there are already lots of churches but no reason growing denominations like Pentecostals can't take them over from fading denominations like the Methodists and Quakers and URC
https://www.siddalljones.com/property/carillon-house-chapel-lane-wythall-birmingham-b47-6jx/
1/ Yesterday I told you 43.6% of Harris County early voters had zero or minimal Democratic primary history.
Today it's 47.7%.
The surge isn't slowing down. It's accelerating. 📈🧵
https://x.com/Levi_Asher_/status/2025588381992747508
They also skew young, and Hispanic, which is not exactly typical of primary voters.
Do you stuff the turnips inside, or let them roast underneath?
Wasn't it quite common on breakfast radio shoes in the 90s?
How will it spread bacteria "everywhere" if you wash the chicken in the sink? Wipe the sink clean with Cif or Flash or whatever? And then wash your hands thoroughly with soap?