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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    WELKER: Trump promised he was going to improve the economy on day one. What's your message to Americans who want to retire and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

    BESSENT: Most Americans who have put away for years in savings accounts don't look at the day to day fluctuations

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5nbt7kus2e

    The US Treasury Secretary doesn't understand the difference between savings and investments?
    No he’s just diverted the question to one he wants to answer

    I haven’t looked at any data so this is an assumption

    Most Americans have relatively limited savings (if any). Much of that is in “savings accounts” which are cash based and not subject to the fluctuations in the stock market

    Of course “lifetime savings” =/= “savings accounts”
    Most American pensions are based on the stock market
  • CleitophonCleitophon Posts: 588
    I predict Labour's red lines with the EU are going to fall like dominoes before the next GE. The tories would be smart if they got a head start on this new reality.... their voters are even more eager for the eu that even labour voters...

    Latest poll has 66% pro eu..... those are numbers that make a realm difference if you are struggling for an edge.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,537
    edited April 6
    Nigelb said:

    This is pretty obviously a pack of lies.
    The only “mistake” they made was not finding the phone which proved they were lying.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0xp969n69o
    …Israel's army has admitted its soldiers made mistakes over the killing of 15 emergency workers in southern Gaza on 23 March.
    The convoy of Palestinian Red Crescent Society (PRCS) ambulances, a UN car and a fire truck from Gaza's Civil Defence came under fire near Rafah.
    Israel originally claimed troops opened fire because the convoy approached "suspiciously" in darkness without headlights or flashing lights. It said movement of the vehicles had not been previously co-ordinated or agreed with the army.
    Mobile phone footage, filmed by one of the paramedics who was killed, showed the vehicles did have lights on as they answered a call to help wounded people.
    The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) insists at least six of the medics were linked to Hamas - but has so far provided no evidence. It admits they were unarmed when the soldiers opened fire.
    The mobile video, originally shared by the New York Times, shows the vehicles pulling up on the road when, without warning, shooting begins just before dawn.
    The footage continues for more than five minutes, with the paramedic, named as Refat Radwan, heard saying his last prayers before the voices of Israeli soldiers are heard approaching the vehicles.
    An IDF official briefed journalists on Saturday evening, saying the soldiers had earlier fired on a car containing three Hamas members.
    When the ambulances responded and approached the area, aerial surveillance monitors informed the soldiers on the ground of the convoy "advancing suspiciously".
    When the ambulances stopped beside the Hamas car, the soldiers assumed they were under threat and opened fire, despite no evidence any of the emergency team was armed.
    Israel has admitted its earlier account claiming the vehicles approached without lights was inaccurate, attributing the report to the troops involved.
    The video footage shows the vehicles were clearly marked and the paramedics wore reflective hi-vis uniform.
    The soldiers buried the bodies of the 15 dead workers in sand to protect them from wild animals, the official said, claiming the vehicles were moved and buried the following day to clear the road

    There’s been ever increasing evidence that parts of the Isreali Army are simply out of control - effectively treating the entirety of Gaza as a free fire zone & shooting civilians at will.

    I don’t think the Isrealis really appreciate what this is doing to their image abroad. Or perhaps they do but they simply no longer care?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,149
    edited April 6
    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Has anyone here heard of or read anything by Charles Amos? Quite a bizarre character who I first saw on tv defending cousins having children together. I think he has an interesting view on life

    Substack is full of dating advice; rarely, though, is there advice to lonely people on getting more company. I present the market fundamentalist solution: Lonely people should buy company with dinner and drinks.

    https://x.com/mrcharlesamos/status/1908817685770907823?s=46&t=CW4pLmMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Advice to Lonely People: Buy Company
    Just friends but not like before


    https://t.co/lgOA9rdX2E

    There are good reasons for preventing cousin marriage: as well as the genetic problems, it also leads to tribal warfare as family groups become dramatically larger. Nuclear families where only the children inherit from the parent are more stable, and cases where only the eldest son inherits ensure that land estates are not broken up over time.
    Here’s his argument

    Marry your cousin, if you like
    Defending incest


    https://t.co/6kwr6rVujp
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,806
    edited April 6

    I predict Labour's red lines with the EU are going to fall like dominoes before the next GE. The tories would be smart if they got a head start on this new reality.... their voters are even more eager for the eu that even labour voters...

    Latest poll has 66% pro eu..... those are numbers that make a realm difference if you are struggling for an edge.

    LOL! It's not happening.

    If anything Starmer is going to be the PM that ends up cementing Brexit in place as I think he is quite enjoying those "Brexit freedoms" he disliked a few years ago :D
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,561

    I predict Labour's red lines with the EU are going to fall like dominoes before the next GE. The tories would be smart if they got a head start on this new reality.... their voters are even more eager for the eu that even labour voters...

    Latest poll has 66% pro eu..... those are numbers that make a realm difference if you are struggling for an edge.

    The latest YouGov poll has two to one support for restoring the death penalty. According to your logic it's inevitable that they will go for it to steal a march on the Tories and Reform.

    https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/should-the-death-penalty-be-reintroduced-for-cases-of-multiple-murder
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    WELKER: Trump promised he was going to improve the economy on day one. What's your message to Americans who want to retire and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

    BESSENT: Most Americans who have put away for years in savings accounts don't look at the day to day fluctuations

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5nbt7kus2e

    The US Treasury Secretary doesn't understand the difference between savings and investments?
    No he’s just diverted the question to one he wants to answer

    I haven’t looked at any data so this is an assumption

    Most Americans have relatively limited savings (if any). Much of that is in “savings accounts” which are cash based and not subject to the fluctuations in the stock market

    Of course “lifetime savings” =/= “savings accounts”
    Have you heard of “401k”?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,806
    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,445

    With regards to the welsh backpacker, what I don't understand is why US ICE took her in the first place.

    She was crossing *into Canada*. If as is being supposed that she needed a work visa to do unpaid housesitting and therefore she was "working" illegally, she would need to be removed from the US.

    But she's at the border. Removing herself.

    The piece highlights a few other examples. Romanian arrested for illegally crossing the US border at the Peace Arch whilst taking a photo of it. Someone else arrested for jogging on the beach.

    Whilst there is definitely some performative cruelty going on by Trump (so that he can boast about how many more illegals he is deporting), this has been going on for a long time.

    There is a way to avoid this - don't go to America.

    Canada refused her entry so she went back to the US. They said “why did Canada refuse entry… ok you were planning to work illegally… so what have you been doing for the last X weeks in the US”?

    The Peace Arch type stuff is odd… you would have thought the normal solution would be “you need to head back 20 yards that way”… unless the media story isn’t quite true…
    I think from what I've read that it's down to a) naivety on her part and b) the authorities tightening on both sides tightening up on regulations. And, perhaps, c) to inadequate information of the part of the agency.
    She done the trip before, signed in as a tourist, and no-one said anything. So she assumed all was as before. However, the last time she hadn't gone to Canada. The Canadian official asked if she knew, or was related to, the chap she was going to 'work' for. She said no, honestly, and was sent back. The US official asked her why she'd been sent back, and she was honest again.
    Then it all went wrong.
    I think some at least blame attaches to the Workaway people. I hope, if they are still trading, that they tighten up.
  • noneoftheabovenoneoftheabove Posts: 24,099

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    WELKER: Trump promised he was going to improve the economy on day one. What's your message to Americans who want to retire and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

    BESSENT: Most Americans who have put away for years in savings accounts don't look at the day to day fluctuations

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5nbt7kus2e

    The US Treasury Secretary doesn't understand the difference between savings and investments?
    No he’s just diverted the question to one he wants to answer

    I haven’t looked at any data so this is an assumption

    Most Americans have relatively limited savings (if any). Much of that is in “savings accounts” which are cash based and not subject to the fluctuations in the stock market

    Of course “lifetime savings” =/= “savings accounts”
    Have you heard of “401k”?
    Trump is replacing it. He has yet to decide whether he prefers 301k or 201k.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790
    @LucasFoxNews

    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent tells NBC: “We get these short-term market reactions from time to time. The market consistently underestimates Donald Trump.”

    https://x.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1908902786743361578
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790
    Only the best people. How a journalist got added to a National Security chat...

    https://x.com/JohnRentoul/status/1908911274252968374
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343

    Andy_JS said:

    "Mother jailed for Southport X post should be freed, says former prime minister
    Liz Truss says Lucy Connolly was ‘victim of politicised two-tier justice system in Starmer’s Britain’" (£)

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/05/lucy-connolly-jailed-southport-tweet-freed-braverman/

    Truss has gone down a MAGA rabbit hole.

    If you think that a 31 month sentence for a Tweet is justifiable, I don't think it's Truss who's down the rabbit hole.
    The entire case is a fucking disgrace, when actual rapists get similar amounts of jail time. She did a tweet
  • glwglw Posts: 10,322
    Scott_xP said:

    @LucasFoxNews

    Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent tells NBC: “We get these short-term market reactions from time to time. The market consistently underestimates Donald Trump.”

    https://x.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1908902786743361578

    He's correct it does, but not in the way he thinks.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    isam said:

    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Has anyone here heard of or read anything by Charles Amos? Quite a bizarre character who I first saw on tv defending cousins having children together. I think he has an interesting view on life

    Substack is full of dating advice; rarely, though, is there advice to lonely people on getting more company. I present the market fundamentalist solution: Lonely people should buy company with dinner and drinks.

    https://x.com/mrcharlesamos/status/1908817685770907823?s=46&t=CW4pLmMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Advice to Lonely People: Buy Company
    Just friends but not like before


    https://t.co/lgOA9rdX2E

    There are good reasons for preventing cousin marriage: as well as the genetic problems, it also leads to tribal warfare as family groups become dramatically larger. Nuclear families where only the children inherit from the parent are more stable, and cases where only the eldest son inherits ensure that land estates are not broken up over time.
    Here’s his argument

    Marry your cousin, if you like
    Defending incest


    https://t.co/6kwr6rVujp
    On the earlier point about people meeting other people more. That’s the ticket.

    Especially in a non-specifically dating situation.

    A local dingy sailing club has a rather nice semi-Palladian club house that gets used for weddings. One of the sailing instructors commented that the stages of life at the club were

    1) learn to sail in groups at the club
    2) go on the organised holiday/regatta they take part in, in Greece. Basically huge bay where you hire stuff to sail, either muck around or race.
    3) get certified and hire a sailing yacht between 6 for a cheap holiday.
    4) wedding at the club house.
    5) toddlers in life jackets on the sailing days at the club.
    6) see 1

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790
    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    Art of the deal innit.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34

    Chris said:

    Scott_xP said:

    @atrupar.com‬

    WELKER: Trump promised he was going to improve the economy on day one. What's your message to Americans who want to retire and have just seen their lifetime savings drop significantly?

    BESSENT: Most Americans who have put away for years in savings accounts don't look at the day to day fluctuations

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5nbt7kus2e

    The US Treasury Secretary doesn't understand the difference between savings and investments?
    No he’s just diverted the question to one he wants to answer

    I haven’t looked at any data so this is an assumption

    Most Americans have relatively limited savings (if any). Much of that is in “savings accounts” which are cash based and not subject to the fluctuations in the stock market

    Of course “lifetime savings” =/= “savings accounts”
    Have you heard of “401k”?
    Trump is replacing it. He has yet to decide whether he prefers 301k or 201k.
    Trump is motivated by hurting his enemies. A stock market crash hurts his enemies greatly. From his point of view whats not to like.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,445

    isam said:

    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Has anyone here heard of or read anything by Charles Amos? Quite a bizarre character who I first saw on tv defending cousins having children together. I think he has an interesting view on life

    Substack is full of dating advice; rarely, though, is there advice to lonely people on getting more company. I present the market fundamentalist solution: Lonely people should buy company with dinner and drinks.

    https://x.com/mrcharlesamos/status/1908817685770907823?s=46&t=CW4pLmMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Advice to Lonely People: Buy Company
    Just friends but not like before


    https://t.co/lgOA9rdX2E

    There are good reasons for preventing cousin marriage: as well as the genetic problems, it also leads to tribal warfare as family groups become dramatically larger. Nuclear families where only the children inherit from the parent are more stable, and cases where only the eldest son inherits ensure that land estates are not broken up over time.
    Here’s his argument

    Marry your cousin, if you like
    Defending incest


    https://t.co/6kwr6rVujp
    On the earlier point about people meeting other people more. That’s the ticket.

    Especially in a non-specifically dating situation.

    A local dingy sailing club has a rather nice semi-Palladian club house that gets used for weddings. One of the sailing instructors commented that the stages of life at the club were

    1) learn to sail in groups at the club
    2) go on the organised holiday/regatta they take part in, in Greece. Basically huge bay where you hire stuff to sail, either muck around or race.
    3) get certified and hire a sailing yacht between 6 for a cheap holiday.
    4) wedding at the club house.
    5) toddlers in life jackets on the sailing days at the club.
    6) see 1

    That was, more or less, the raison d'être of the Young Conservatives in my youth.
    1) Socialise with parents at Con Club
    2) Go out 'canvassing' together
    3) Socialise afterwards
    4) Wedding reception at Con Club
    etc.

    The Labour League of Youth was much more serious.

    Don't know about the Young Liberals. By the time they were really up and running Mrs C and I had moved on from the Student Union dances.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,561
    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    To understand Trump understand the motivations of MAGA. Yes they want better living standards for themselves but failing that they will be satisfied with ruining the lives of the people in the laptop class. To them thats a sort of winning.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,544

    I predict Labour's red lines with the EU are going to fall like dominoes before the next GE. The tories would be smart if they got a head start on this new reality.... their voters are even more eager for the eu that even labour voters...

    Latest poll has 66% pro eu..... those are numbers that make a realm difference if you are struggling for an edge.

    Ok dear.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,864

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    Do you thing the nearly retired are suited to seasonal agriculture and working in slaughterhouses?

    And do you think they will thank Trump if that becomes their new retirement?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,864

    isam said:

    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Has anyone here heard of or read anything by Charles Amos? Quite a bizarre character who I first saw on tv defending cousins having children together. I think he has an interesting view on life

    Substack is full of dating advice; rarely, though, is there advice to lonely people on getting more company. I present the market fundamentalist solution: Lonely people should buy company with dinner and drinks.

    https://x.com/mrcharlesamos/status/1908817685770907823?s=46&t=CW4pLmMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Advice to Lonely People: Buy Company
    Just friends but not like before


    https://t.co/lgOA9rdX2E

    There are good reasons for preventing cousin marriage: as well as the genetic problems, it also leads to tribal warfare as family groups become dramatically larger. Nuclear families where only the children inherit from the parent are more stable, and cases where only the eldest son inherits ensure that land estates are not broken up over time.
    Here’s his argument

    Marry your cousin, if you like
    Defending incest


    https://t.co/6kwr6rVujp
    On the earlier point about people meeting other people more. That’s the ticket.

    Especially in a non-specifically dating situation.

    A local dingy sailing club has a rather nice semi-Palladian club house that gets used for weddings. One of the sailing instructors commented that the stages of life at the club were

    1) learn to sail in groups at the club
    2) go on the organised holiday/regatta they take part in, in Greece. Basically huge bay where you hire stuff to sail, either muck around or race.
    3) get certified and hire a sailing yacht between 6 for a cheap holiday.
    4) wedding at the club house.
    5) toddlers in life jackets on the sailing days at the club.
    6) see 1

    Yes, but you want numbers on your side.

    It works for female dinghy sailors, but men might be better off in a yoga or art class.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790
    Oh, the Mad King is not gonna like that...

    @atrupar.com‬

    BREAM: Do you believe there's a method by which Trump could seek a third term?

    BONDI: I wish we could have him for 20 years as our president, but I think he's gonna be finished probably after this term

    BREAM: Probably?

    BONDI: We'd have to look at the Constitution

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5u7emjns2g
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 37,790

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    So no, you can't spin Donny playing golf while pensions burn. OK
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    Do you thing the nearly retired are suited to seasonal agriculture and working in slaughterhouses?

    And do you think they will thank Trump if that becomes their new retirement?
    In China, complaining about the system reduces your Social Credit. Similarly, loudly protesting in favour of the regime earns you points.

    One of my daughters friends at university told her that, since he became an anti-Taiwan activist, it has evened up the score (with government) of a cousin who said some things about Hong Kong.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,864
    edited April 6
    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    Been gardening most of the day. Lots of bees this year, there was a dearth last spring and they never really made an appearance all year. It was so wet and miserable.

    This year I am already watering. Everything is bone dry.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,449

    Pulpstar said:

    MattW said:

    Taz said:

    Taz said:

    viewcode said:

    Scott_xP said:

    Mark Carney compares Trumpski torching the US economy to Brexit

    https://x.com/liberal_party/status/1908643764304044132

    The least surprising comment in all this chaos

    In the meantime Starmer is taking the benefit of Brexit by prioritising trade deals with the US, India and Australia
    How is Starmer's post Brexit "deal" with the US going? Ten percent on all imports from the UK compared to zip in the other direction.

    The art of the deal.
    Well it seems Darren Jones on Sky confirms it is a Brexit divided

    And you do not mention the 20% on the EU
    "He is hurting us less than the other guy" does not make it free trade. Somebody who is imposing tariffs on the UK is not interested in free trade.
    So given we apply tariffs to US goods coming into the U.K. presumably we’re not interested in free trade either ?
    One can be interested in free trade while still having other concerns and wanting reciprocity. The test of whether the UK is interested in free trade with the US, and vice versa, is whether we’re moving towards lower tariffs.
    So we’re interested but not interested enough to do anything about it.

    Let’s see what happens.

    I reckon we should just get rid of them and see what happens. Call his bluff.
    As you noted in another post, Trump wants a win. That implies we should negotiate something that looks like a win to him, which might involve dropping our tariffs. Just dropping them unilaterally might not work, however. Where’s the leverage in a future negotiation if we’ve already dropped them?

    The other issue is that there are trade barriers other than tariffs. Trump has said he wants the UK to drop food safety standards. I can see resistance to doing that from UK consumers.
    Lee Anderson's been on that one, citing lettuce.

    I'm not sure if he's checked how many people don't want US needs-to-be-chlorine-washed chicken (off the top of my head: 80-90%) here, and what this does for his attempted populism.

    We'll see how the "patriots" react, and what happens to the different factions of his voting coalition.
    If 80-90% don't want it I'd have thought it wouldn't sell ?
    You won’t be allowed to know it’s there.
    Of course you will.

    British chicken has union flags on the packaging and would be cheaper.

    So who is going to buy chicken which is lower quality, more expensive and imported ?
    The US in negotiations has explicitly criticised what they call “unjustified” labelling: https://www.which.co.uk/news/article/why-labels-wont-protect-uk-food-standards-from-a-us-trade-deal-ahUlA9H2YOWw
    They can criticize what they want but the UK government isn't going to make it illegal for UK supermarkets to put union flags or the world 'British' on UK produce.

    Nor does that deal with the fundamental fact that US food tends to cost more.
    Has much changed from the days of the horse meat scandal where when the shit hit the fan the only supermarket in the UK who could actually trace their meat supplies was Morrisons (and now they are owned by US private equity who are asset stripping, so i doubt that is true). And the reality of even big brands was very messy where the meat in your frozen meal came from e.g. a Romanian meat processing place that mixed horse and beef of questinable origins very casually

    That all been said it is always about the chlorinated chicken, but nobody seems bothered that Iceland stuff mostly comes from places like Thailand and lots of supermarket meat is cheap Brazilian, neither of which if we are honest is going to be top quality. That how Iceland does meals for a pennies.
    Some of the supermarket meat appears to be very specific with countries specified for 'born' and 'slaughtered'.

    Also some chicken is labelled 'Not for resale in EU'. Wouldn't any American chicken have to have that description ?
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    Do you thing the nearly retired are suited to seasonal agriculture and working in slaughterhouses?

    And do you think they will thank Trump if that becomes their new retirement?
    I did seasonal agriculture once. My main memory is the 40 yr old supervisors sh.gging the 19 yr old girls. Perks of the job you see.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,449
    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    BREAKING: Commerce Sectary Howard Lutnick says tariffs are coming on April 9th, crushing hopes of a tariff delay before the 6 PM ET futures open, per a CBS News interview.
    3:44 PM · Apr 6, 2025
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    https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1908893650991350041

    Trump wants to crush the asset rich class.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,445
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    I thought it was as a result of the Labour Government!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    I did. This is a false dawn, like the lockdown spring of 2020
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Foxy said:

    isam said:

    viewcode said:

    isam said:

    Has anyone here heard of or read anything by Charles Amos? Quite a bizarre character who I first saw on tv defending cousins having children together. I think he has an interesting view on life

    Substack is full of dating advice; rarely, though, is there advice to lonely people on getting more company. I present the market fundamentalist solution: Lonely people should buy company with dinner and drinks.

    https://x.com/mrcharlesamos/status/1908817685770907823?s=46&t=CW4pLmMpTqsJXCdjW0Z6Q

    Advice to Lonely People: Buy Company
    Just friends but not like before


    https://t.co/lgOA9rdX2E

    There are good reasons for preventing cousin marriage: as well as the genetic problems, it also leads to tribal warfare as family groups become dramatically larger. Nuclear families where only the children inherit from the parent are more stable, and cases where only the eldest son inherits ensure that land estates are not broken up over time.
    Here’s his argument

    Marry your cousin, if you like
    Defending incest


    https://t.co/6kwr6rVujp
    On the earlier point about people meeting other people more. That’s the ticket.

    Especially in a non-specifically dating situation.

    A local dingy sailing club has a rather nice semi-Palladian club house that gets used for weddings. One of the sailing instructors commented that the stages of life at the club were

    1) learn to sail in groups at the club
    2) go on the organised holiday/regatta they take part in, in Greece. Basically huge bay where you hire stuff to sail, either muck around or race.
    3) get certified and hire a sailing yacht between 6 for a cheap holiday.
    4) wedding at the club house.
    5) toddlers in life jackets on the sailing days at the club.
    6) see 1

    Yes, but you want numbers on your side.

    It works for female dinghy sailors, but men might be better off in a yoga or art class.
    60%+ female intake on the sailing courses. Rowing is not dissimilar. Scuba has lots of women wanting to do it.

    Years ago, a friend was asked why he became a nurse, when he was literally one of 2 blokes on the course….
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,445
    Surrey, the erstwhile champion county, Following On against Essex!
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,445
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    No, that's down to Boeing.
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 18,216
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    Only if they are on the border between Ukraine China.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,009
    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    As someone considering a possible imminent flight from Almaty Kazakhstan to Dushanbe Tajikstan I'd rather not hear that

    Rahmet
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,864
    Bogota said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    Do you thing the nearly retired are suited to seasonal agriculture and working in slaughterhouses?

    And do you think they will thank Trump if that becomes their new retirement?
    I did seasonal agriculture once. My main memory is the 40 yr old supervisors sh.gging the 19 yr old girls. Perks of the job you see.
    In Siberia you have to find your own entertainment, and none of that Woke "no means no" nonsense.
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,564
    "What’s more, the US National Chicken Council estimates that only 10% of the processing plants in the US actually use chlorine washes."

    https://archive.is/Bhocr
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    Thick and fast on the Ukraine/Republic of China border. Deciding where to bury the survivors is a big task, these days.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Foxy said:

    Bogota said:

    Foxy said:

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    Do you thing the nearly retired are suited to seasonal agriculture and working in slaughterhouses?

    And do you think they will thank Trump if that becomes their new retirement?
    I did seasonal agriculture once. My main memory is the 40 yr old supervisors sh.gging the 19 yr old girls. Perks of the job you see.
    In Siberia you have to find your own entertainment, and none of that Woke "no means no" nonsense.
    Also on the Russian army, where a bit of involuntary man-on-man action is just “discipline”.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    edited April 6
    viewcode said:

    "...i am fascinated by the outright refusal of people in the professional political commentary class to just consider the possibility that there is no plan and that trump really is a braying idiot with the more acute case of narcissistic personality disorder on record..."

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3lm5w2ot4e22t

    Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

    Some are so far into denial as to be living on houseboats on Lake Victoria.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,009
    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    Ah, been a while since we had this one 🍿🍿🍿🍿
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,864
    edited April 6

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    In general Anthropecene Climate Change is making Britain wetter, but it is also making our already capricious climate even more so. So we need to invest both in flood defences as well as new reservoirs.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343
    I have an urge to see what little is left of the Aral Sea
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,436
    Leon said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    As someone considering a possible imminent flight from Almaty Kazakhstan to Dushanbe Tajikstan I'd rather not hear that

    Rahmet
    "The road to Dushanbe!"
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Eabhal said:

    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?

    That’s sounds like it will be interesting in high winds.

    I’ve wondered about a house design with a single slope roof, with a narrow balcony at the front for access.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918

    Leon said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    As someone considering a possible imminent flight from Almaty Kazakhstan to Dushanbe Tajikstan I'd rather not hear that

    Rahmet
    "The road to Dushanbe!"
    Dushanbe was where the Soviets were building an ABM laser system in one of the early Clancy novels….
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    viewcode said:

    "...i am fascinated by the outright refusal of people in the professional political commentary class to just consider the possibility that there is no plan and that trump really is a braying idiot with the more acute case of narcissistic personality disorder on record..."

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3lm5w2ot4e22t

    I love how commentators try to intellectualize Trump. Like hes this master strategist. Have they seen his business career.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,322

    Scott_xP said:

    ‪OK @williamglenn , spin this

    @atrupar.com‬

    Schiff: "That may end up being the most enduring image of the Trump presidency: The president out on a golf cart while peoples' retirement is in flames."

    https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3lm5t334bfe2x

    If people delay their retirement it will offset the impact of deporting illegal workers.
    How many Americans do you think voted for Trump hoping that they would be forced to delay their retirement due to his incoherent economic policy? Three? Four? Maybe even double figures?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,009

    Eabhal said:

    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?

    That’s sounds like it will be interesting in high winds.

    I’ve wondered about a house design with a single slope roof, with a narrow balcony at the front for access.
    Hadn't thought of that. If we get a storm from the Arctic...
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?

    That’s sounds like it will be interesting in high winds.

    I’ve wondered about a house design with a single slope roof, with a narrow balcony at the front for access.
    Hadn't thought of that. If we get a storm from the Arctic...
    Once saw the temporary corrugated iron roof (on top of scaffolding) lift off in high wind. In London.

    It was pretty much as you describe - commonly used to cover a house while the roof is replaced. Usual a good dozen feet above the original roofline to create a working space. If the plastic sheeting at the sides gets torn out, then you are left with a nice large wing….
  • glwglw Posts: 10,322
    viewcode said:

    "...i am fascinated by the outright refusal of people in the professional political commentary class to just consider the possibility that there is no plan and that trump really is a braying idiot with the more acute case of narcissistic personality disorder on record..."

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3lm5w2ot4e22t

    Even the BBC is now sanewashing Trump. It's infuriating to listen to people who do know better trying to make a case for what they know to be the nonsensical ramblings of a vengeful crook. I'm absolutely certain that the media as a whole has to shoulder some of the blame for Trump's success, they have never laid into him to the degree he deserves.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,436

    Leon said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    As someone considering a possible imminent flight from Almaty Kazakhstan to Dushanbe Tajikstan I'd rather not hear that

    Rahmet
    "The road to Dushanbe!"
    Dushanbe was where the Soviets were building an ABM laser system in one of the early Clancy novels….
    "Spies Like Us" reference, sadly.
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    Have you ever been in a situation where you are playing poker and one guy is so bad and does so many stupid things it throws you off your game. And suddenly you find yourself losing to this terrible player. Thats Trump.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,185
    edited April 6
    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    glw said:

    viewcode said:

    "...i am fascinated by the outright refusal of people in the professional political commentary class to just consider the possibility that there is no plan and that trump really is a braying idiot with the more acute case of narcissistic personality disorder on record..."

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3lm5w2ot4e22t

    Even the BBC is now sanewashing Trump. It's infuriating to listen to people who do know better trying to make a case for what they know to be the nonsensical ramblings of a vengeful crook. I'm absolutely certain that the media as a whole has to shoulder some of the blame for Trump's success, they have never laid into him to the degree he deserves.
    Read Bill Ackman on X trying to justify Trumps latest decision if you fancy a good laugh.
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,328
    carnforth said:

    "What’s more, the US National Chicken Council estimates that only 10% of the processing plants in the US actually use chlorine washes."

    https://archive.is/Bhocr

    I can't work out whether the other 90% ought to be using chlorine washes or not. Is not using them a cost-cutting measure?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Eabhal said:

    Eabhal said:

    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?

    That’s sounds like it will be interesting in high winds.

    I’ve wondered about a house design with a single slope roof, with a narrow balcony at the front for access.
    Hadn't thought of that. If we get a storm from the Arctic...
    {Alistair McLean has entered the chat, adjectives spilling from all his pockets}
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,113

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    Only if they are on the border between Ukraine China.
    Quite a few are.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,544

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,728

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,113
    viewcode said:

    "...i am fascinated by the outright refusal of people in the professional political commentary class to just consider the possibility that there is no plan and that trump really is a braying idiot with the more acute case of narcissistic personality disorder on record..."

    https://bsky.app/profile/jamellebouie.net/post/3lm5w2ot4e22t

    Says guy in the professional political commentary class.
    And he’s hardly the first.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918
    Nigelb said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    Bogota said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Good afternoon PB. What a lovely spell of weather we're having!

    Lets hope we don't pay for it in July ☂

    Best April weather since 2020 lockdown. Hope its not a bad omen.
    I seem to remember a PBer saying that the climate had permanently changed and that the UK would have near continuous rainy days from now on.
    Trump has stopped the chemtrails you see. Better weather with Trump.
    No, no

    The vaccines killed all the BA pilots, so no planes are flying. Hard to do the chemtrails without planes.

    So it’s all down to Big Pharma.
    Seems to be more plane crashes lately which is interesting.
    Only if they are on the border between Ukraine China.
    Quite a few are.
    {tries to hide a Pantsir missile system under a very small tea cosy}

    Really?
  • BogotaBogota Posts: 34
    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
    Its interesting you have become much more anti immigration recently. Cant help but think this is related to the massive demographic change at your daughters school.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,436

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Brenda - "Not another one?!"
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 5,564
    AnneJGP said:

    carnforth said:

    "What’s more, the US National Chicken Council estimates that only 10% of the processing plants in the US actually use chlorine washes."

    https://archive.is/Bhocr

    I can't work out whether the other 90% ought to be using chlorine washes or not. Is not using them a cost-cutting measure?
    Chicken here is washed with water and cold air. I doubt adding chlorine is expensive.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,185
    edited April 6

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
    I presume this is the same story that led to them losing their licence that got a lot of publicity a couple of months ago.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,200

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
    I presume this is the same story that led to them losing their licence that got a lot of publicity a couple of months ago.
    What's the point of Leon if he isn't giving us the inside nod on all things Groucho?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,200

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
    I presume this is the same story that led to them losing their licence that got a lot of publicity a couple of months ago.
    What's the point of Leon if he isn't giving us the inside nod on all things Groucho?
    Apols, a dozen superfluous words there.
  • TazTaz Posts: 17,262

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
    Norris
  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,728
    Bogota said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
    Its interesting you have become much more anti immigration recently. Cant help but think this is related to the massive demographic change at your daughters school.
    Mm. This isn't really an immigration post - I'm expressing discomfort at the eagerness of the state to criminalise speech of any sort. Including, note, speech I disagree with.

    And I've always been pretty sceptical of a) the economic arguments for immigration, which I don't think stack up, and b) the principle of multiculturalism. This isn't a new thing! That said, I'm also very positive about the impact of certain immigrants eg many of the HK immigrants, who are generally highly skilled, Anglophone, and quick to integrate. So it's not a black and white issue.

    That said, you are right in the respect that I have noticed previously impeccably Guardianista individuals at the school gate start to express a lot more reservations now the impacts are much closer to home!
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,200
    Bogota said:

    Have you ever been in a situation where you are playing poker and one guy is so bad and does so many stupid things it throws you off your game. And suddenly you find yourself losing to this terrible player. Thats Trump.

    No.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 19,139
    A British consumer products company I buy things from has quiet quit from twitter. They still post there from time-to-time, but much less than before. They don't have twitter (or X) on their list of social media website that they tell people about (that list is now facebook, instagram, youtube and twitch).

    They haven't done something silly like publicly announce that they're quitting twitter, but that's what they're doing. Quietly.

    Anyone else noticed other companies doing the same?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,200
    Bogota said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
    Its interesting you have become much more anti immigration recently. Cant help but think this is related to the massive demographic change at your daughters school.
    You need to try harder with your apostrophes if you want to pass for a native speaker.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,385

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Brenda - "Not another one?!"
    As @rcs1000 pointed out, it's strange how many sex politicians are sexual offenders.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,544
    Sean_F said:

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Brenda - "Not another one?!"
    As @rcs1000 pointed out, it's strange how many sex politicians are sexual offenders.
    :lol:

    I am sure it's a typo but do we want to know what a sex politician is?
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 30,544

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Wait, so this isn't Dan Morris?
    I presume this is the same story that led to them losing their licence that got a lot of publicity a couple of months ago.
    Apparently not according to the DM.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918

    Bogota said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
    Its interesting you have become much more anti immigration recently. Cant help but think this is related to the massive demographic change at your daughters school.
    You need to try harder with your apostrophes if you want to pass for a native speaker.
    Though the budget has reached a caps key….
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,736

    A British consumer products company I buy things from has quiet quit from twitter. They still post there from time-to-time, but much less than before. They don't have twitter (or X) on their list of social media website that they tell people about (that list is now facebook, instagram, youtube and twitch).

    They haven't done something silly like publicly announce that they're quitting twitter, but that's what they're doing. Quietly.

    Anyone else noticed other companies doing the same?

    I think it was a trend even before Musk. Corporates feel more comfortable somewhere they won’t get trolled, so they increasingly stick to LinkedIn (for the corporate stuff) and Insta for the brand messages. Plus a lot of them have started using the execrable TikTok more.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,626
    TimS said:

    A British consumer products company I buy things from has quiet quit from twitter. They still post there from time-to-time, but much less than before. They don't have twitter (or X) on their list of social media website that they tell people about (that list is now facebook, instagram, youtube and twitch).

    They haven't done something silly like publicly announce that they're quitting twitter, but that's what they're doing. Quietly.

    Anyone else noticed other companies doing the same?

    I think it was a trend even before Musk. Corporates feel more comfortable somewhere they won’t get trolled, so they increasingly stick to LinkedIn (for the corporate stuff) and Insta for the brand messages. Plus a lot of them have started using the execrable TikTok more.
    Chief Executives pulling stupid dance moves?
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 53,918

    Sean_F said:

    A Labour MP is being investigated by the Metropolitan Police over an allegation of sexual assault at the well known celeb hangout The Groucho club

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14577253/MP-probed-sex-assault-Groucho-Club.html

    Brenda - "Not another one?!"
    As @rcs1000 pointed out, it's strange how many sex politicians are sexual offenders.
    :lol:

    I am sure it's a typo but do we want to know what a sex politician is?
    It’s repetition.

    as Mark Twain put it -“Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.”
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343
    Cookie said:

    Bogota said:

    Cookie said:

    Cookie said:

    MattW said:

    Was the tweet a one off? Or was it part of a pattern of behaviour?

    The sentencing comments at https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/R-v-Lucy-Connolly.pdf describe “other tweets” which made “further racist remarks” sent before and after.
    The report says she deleted the tweet that got her in trouble within 4hrs. I wonder if all the others that were deemed racist were sent around the same time and also deleted, or was this a prolonged behaviour?
    A couple of us have linked it. The main one mentioned:

    At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following:

    “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”

    When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used to cause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
    ...
    Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940 reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
    That's it? She was jailed for two years for that? I've seen Palestinian activists make rather more incendiary comments about Jews without similar repurcussions.

    Your regular reminder that free speech also includes free speech we disapprove of.
    You are free to report said Palestinian activists to the police, if you should so wish. That others get away with crimes is not a reason to go lightly on those who were caught.

    And, no, she has been jailed for one year (40% of 31 months).
    You're missing half the point. Free speech means things we defend the right of people to say things we don't like. I no more want to see angry lefties jailed for spouting shite than angry righties.
    The inconsistency is annoying, but nit as annoying as the general principle.
    Its interesting you have become much more anti immigration recently. Cant help but think this is related to the massive demographic change at your daughters school.
    Mm. This isn't really an immigration post - I'm expressing discomfort at the eagerness of the state to criminalise speech of any sort. Including, note, speech I disagree with.

    And I've always been pretty sceptical of a) the economic arguments for immigration, which I don't think stack up, and b) the principle of multiculturalism. This isn't a new thing! That said, I'm also very positive about the impact of certain immigrants eg many of the HK immigrants, who are generally highly skilled, Anglophone, and quick to integrate. So it's not a black and white issue.

    That said, you are right in the respect that I have noticed previously impeccably Guardianista individuals at the school gate start to express a lot more reservations now the impacts are much closer to home!
    Your Guardianista fellow parents are wankers. Sorry, but it is true. I despise them

    The inability to see the terrible downsides of mass immigration for OTHERS in Britain (usually poorer, less well educated, less mobile) is a basic failure of Theory of Mind, common in the autistic or the dogmatic; they cannot think themselves into other people's lives or they cannot see beyond their own perceived virtue

    Until it hits them for real, and in person

    Fools and knaves, the lot of them. They are why Europe is headed for a grimly Hard Right future, whatever Trump does
  • AugustusCarp2AugustusCarp2 Posts: 294

    Bogota said:

    Have you ever been in a situation where you are playing poker and one guy is so bad and does so many stupid things it throws you off your game. And suddenly you find yourself losing to this terrible player. Thats Trump.

    No.
    Yes, the last two companies I worked for have disappeared, as have a lot of non commercial institutions that I used to cover. I am thinking of museums, university departments, various historians and academics and churches. No fuss, no grandstanding, but they have just disappeared over the last six months or so. I miss them.

    (Sorry, I have just got in, so forgive me if this has already bee covered, but there was a first class documentaery on BBC2 on Friday night on the decline and fall of Twitter/X. Genuinely fascinating on a number of levels.)
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,626
    Eabhal said:

    Noticed a couple of houses in the Highlands with a slightly mad solar setup. They've put two steel supports at the northern corners of the house and extended their array from the south facing roof into the air, so it's double the size and across the whole footprint of their house. Heatpumps attached to the supports too.

    Looks dreadful tbh. Not sure why it wasn't cheaper to just create a big standalone array in the garden. Something to do with a planning loophole? Gardeners trying to preserve space?

    Any sort of solar setup that far north is more than a little mad.
  • nico67nico67 Posts: 4,984
    What a shame Marine Le Pens martyrdom rally was a flop !

    A poll shows 61% support the Paris Criminal Court decision to bar her from elections for 5 years .
  • TresTres Posts: 2,789

    Bogota said:

    Have you ever been in a situation where you are playing poker and one guy is so bad and does so many stupid things it throws you off your game. And suddenly you find yourself losing to this terrible player. Thats Trump.

    No.
    Yes, the last two companies I worked for have disappeared, as have a lot of non commercial institutions that I used to cover. I am thinking of museums, university departments, various historians and academics and churches. No fuss, no grandstanding, but they have just disappeared over the last six months or so. I miss them.

    (Sorry, I have just got in, so forgive me if this has already bee covered, but there was a first class documentaery on BBC2 on Friday night on the decline and fall of Twitter/X. Genuinely fascinating on a number of levels.)
    yep, oh well at least we got GB News
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 65,217
    Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).

    One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.

    The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.

    The latter, the source says, no one would go near.

    Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,561

    Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).

    One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.

    The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.

    The latter, the source says, no one would go near.

    Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?

    Maybe they need to hide it in a Great Repeal Bill to revert the constitution to how it was in 1997. Abolish everything that came after that, from the OBR to the Sentencing Council to the Triple Lock.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,343
    nico67 said:

    What a shame Marine Le Pens martyrdom rally was a flop !

    A poll shows 61% support the Paris Criminal Court decision to bar her from elections for 5 years .

    But 39% do not?

    Far too early to exult, you ghoulish Marxist pervert

    She called a raily in Paris. She got few. But her voters are not the type to go to Paris for rallies

    They live elsewhere, and they are angry

    Remember the terrible numbers that anti-EU or UKIP rallies achieved in London? - utterly embarrassing. But that was, it turned out, because Leavery, anti-EU people tend to be older, do not live in London, and don't like political rallies per se

    Wait for the next French elex

  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,328

    Whitehall source tells S Times that there are two options for further dramatic cuts in welfare budget (which might be needed thanks to Trumpski).

    One is means testing the disability benefit, PIP.

    The other is looking again at the Triple Lock for pensioners.

    The latter, the source says, no one would go near.

    Madness. Just madness. Will no one grasp this nettle?

    The Triple Lock has to go. It's stupid to hang on to it. It should have gone last year right after the GE and there's still, what, 4 years to the next GE.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,453

    Bogota said:

    Have you ever been in a situation where you are playing poker and one guy is so bad and does so many stupid things it throws you off your game. And suddenly you find yourself losing to this terrible player. Thats Trump.

    No.
    Yes, the last two companies I worked for have disappeared, as have a lot of non commercial institutions that I used to cover. I am thinking of museums, university departments, various historians and academics and churches. No fuss, no grandstanding, but they have just disappeared over the last six months or so. I miss them.

    (Sorry, I have just got in, so forgive me if this has already bee covered, but there was a first class documentaery on BBC2 on Friday night on the decline and fall of Twitter/X. Genuinely fascinating on a number of levels.)
    Twitter revenues are down to 2016/7 levels, and about half their peak around 2021.
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