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  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,358

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    If you did chemistry, back when it was fun*, you look at the shelf in a hardware store and think - that & that….

    *doing home silvering of mirrors, if your silver nitrate solution turns black….
    One of our ‘tasks’ in A Level chemistry practical was to to make alcohol. We were told to bring some orange juice to school that day, so that we ‘could get rid of the surplus’.
    In college my practical was to make a tri nitro compound....didnt twig what it was till the lecturer told me not to let the temperature to get higher than a certain value else the lab would spread across the surrounding country....only had a litre of it
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    edited February 5
    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,252

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    I assume the risk is that the islands will be seized by the forces of the International Telecommunications Union if the UK is found in breach of international law?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,587

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    Seems like a weak excuse. If the decision on which the transfer rests on is non-binding, other agencies can't act as though we have already handed the islands over.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,541
    edited February 5

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    But there's not actually any real debate/uncertainty over the Islands belonging to us, is there? And even if some arbitrary court said they aren't British we would just tell them to **** off. Same as we would with the Falklands, Gibraltar and any other British sovereign territory?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    Ben Wallace (former Def Sec) seems to have immediately posted that this is all fabricated.

  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,587
    Trump to sign “JK’s law”.

    https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/1887241661081702624

    Under the Trump administration, we will defend the proud tradition of female athletes.

    From now on, women's sports will be ONLY FOR WOMEN!
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,541

    Trump to sign “JK’s law”.

    https://x.com/rapidresponse47/status/1887241661081702624

    Under the Trump administration, we will defend the proud tradition of female athletes.

    From now on, women's sports will be ONLY FOR WOMEN!

    The self-admitted "pussy grabber" is actually a feminist! Who knew?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,138

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Thankfully my plans are to avoid the US for the next 4 years - so not my concern. I have far too many places in Europe to visit.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,398
    edited February 5

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    biggles fought in both wars I believe pbbiggerpederantry
    What did he do inbetween the wars ?

    Did he go back to Pratt and Sons and play cricket for the Croydon Gentlemen or did he stay in the fledgling airforce. I’d guess not many interwar stories of Biggles were written.
    Between the wars, he fought criminals.

    And then he went off to Spain and was involved in the civil war there. I forget which side he was on.
    I was wondering why there was never a tv version, unlike the likes of Dick Barton, but there was. In 1960. Although I doubt any exist now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggles_(TV_series)
    There was a not great film made in the 80s. I remember being very excited about my mother hiring it for me from a video rental shop one Saturday morning as I had a school friend coming to stay for the night and it wasn't quite what we hoped for.

    You mean the way it involved yuppies and time travel?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    Memory has played us Pfalz.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169
    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Hell if you grind down the edge of a credit or debit card you can make it sharp enough to slit a throat
    Easy Pagan or they’re going to have to frisk everyone on entry to the next PB gathering. “Any dangerous socks, credit cards or plastic bags on you sir?”
    They’ll have to hold it in a nudist camp.
    Not again!
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,398
    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    biggles fought in both wars I believe pbbiggerpederantry
    What did he do inbetween the wars ?

    Did he go back to Pratt and Sons and play cricket for the Croydon Gentlemen or did he stay in the fledgling airforce. I’d guess not many interwar stories of Biggles were written.
    Between the wars, he fought criminals.

    And then he went off to Spain and was involved in the civil war there. I forget which side he was on.
    I was wondering why there was never a tv version, unlike the likes of Dick Barton, but there was. In 1960. Although I doubt any exist now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggles_(TV_series)
    There was a not great film made in the 80s. I remember being very excited about my mother hiring it for me from a video rental shop one Saturday morning as I had a school friend coming to stay for the night and it wasn't quite what we hoped for.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZl8wVhqB8c is the TV one - only one episode apparently.

    Though there is this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9-ylXTixxM

    *buffs my Blue Peter gold badge*
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,108
    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 72,622
    Taz said:

    boulay said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Hell if you grind down the edge of a credit or debit card you can make it sharp enough to slit a throat
    Easy Pagan or they’re going to have to frisk everyone on entry to the next PB gathering. “Any dangerous socks, credit cards or plastic bags on you sir?”
    They’ll have to hold it in a nudist camp.
    I like somebody else to hold it when I'm in a nudist camp.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,398

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    Quite a few Fokkers in WW2. Only they were wearing Dutch triangles/roundels - and Dutch East Indies ditto after May 1940.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    edited February 5

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    By WW2, Fokker had moved to Holland and his aircraft served alongside the Allies.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,398
    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    It's the 'aim to' that I notice.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169
    Carnyx said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    It's the 'aim to' that I notice.
    Good spot, that uncertainty is also highly encouraging in an industry where there are nearly 3 million passengers per day.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    I assume the risk is that the islands will be seized by the forces of the International Telecommunications Union if the UK is found in breach of international law?
    They have threatened to change the UK country code to:

    +87877724824

    (Work it out)
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,108

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    By WW2 Fokker, had moved to Holland and his aircraft served alongside the Allies.
    Weren’t they available to both sides? Although those made in Holland after 1941 were very unreliable.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    By WW2 Fokker, had moved to Holland and his aircraft served alongside the Allies.
    Weren’t they available to both sides? Although those made in Holland after 1941 were very unreliable.
    OK, I'll give you the C.X biplanes which had been sold to Finland before and during the Winter War, and which later served alongside the Germans invading the USSR in 1941.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    Taz said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    biggles fought in both wars I believe pbbiggerpederantry
    What did he do inbetween the wars ?

    Did he go back to Pratt and Sons and play cricket for the Croydon Gentlemen or did he stay in the fledgling airforce. I’d guess not many interwar stories of Biggles were written.
    Thwarting dastardly furriners undermining the Empire, wasn’t it?
    Some story tropes remain timeless.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    edited February 5

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    That's useful information, if true, though I can see why it is thought to be a bit hypothetical a concern for some. And comes with other solutions.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    ohnotnow said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    If you did chemistry, back when it was fun*, you look at the shelf in a hardware store and think - that & that….

    *doing home silvering of mirrors, if your silver nitrate solution turns black….
    My first job was as an industrial chemist....know what you mean....also qualifications in microbiology for the more viral moments if I ever chose to be a terrorist
    I remember having a chat with a quite senior professor who had got interested in science around the same time as me. We both, somewhat guiltily, admitted that "The Anarchists Cookbook" had sparked our interest.

    He now advises the UK Government on such things.

    “The Anarchists Cookbook" is full of things that don’t work and are more likely to kill/injure the wannabe anarchist.

    Most explosives are extremely simple. My brother made guncotton *by accident*.
    The good bomb maker spends more time making sure things don't explode (or rather only when intended)?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    Sam Stein
    @samstein
    ·
    4m
    Reports are that DOGE staffers are now at NIH
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941
    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    If you did chemistry, back when it was fun*, you look at the shelf in a hardware store and think - that & that….

    *doing home silvering of mirrors, if your silver nitrate solution turns black….
    My first job was as an industrial chemist....know what you mean....also qualifications in microbiology for the more viral moments if I ever chose to be a terrorist
    I remember having a chat with a quite senior professor who had got interested in science around the same time as me. We both, somewhat guiltily, admitted that "The Anarchists Cookbook" had sparked our interest.

    He now advises the UK Government on such things.

    “The Anarchists Cookbook" is full of things that don’t work and are more likely to kill/injure the wannabe anarchist.

    Most explosives are extremely simple. My brother made guncotton *by accident*.
    Isn’t it just HNO3 and cotton? Or do you need some H2SO4 too?
    You realise if anyone answers that question they may well fall foul of anti terrorism laws?
    I was going to say

    1) the process is described in detail in old encyclopaedias.
    2) I don’t want to get OGH into trouble. All it takes is one moron who thinks that basic chemical knowledge is some kind of Sekrit!!!!
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    Sam Stein
    @samstein
    ·
    4m
    Reports are that DOGE staffers are now at NIH

    Who exactly are these 'staffers'?

    Hopefully more than just self proclaimed 'experts in everything' who look at something, take 5 minutes to 'assess' things, then come out with a confident but simplistic solution.

    That's when internet message boards are for.
  • Evening PB.

    Sunset Song from 1971 on BBC4 tonight, comes highly recommended.
  • Several Scottish documentaries, too.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    edited February 5
    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    "Tell me everything about this job in 2 days, so the President can make a decision by the weekend".
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 5,342

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    By WW2 Fokker, had moved to Holland and his aircraft served alongside the Allies.
    Weren’t they available to both sides? Although those made in Holland after 1941 were very unreliable.
    It was in the name of Friendship and Fellowship.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,941
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    If you did chemistry, back when it was fun*, you look at the shelf in a hardware store and think - that & that….

    *doing home silvering of mirrors, if your silver nitrate solution turns black….
    One of our ‘tasks’ in A Level chemistry practical was to to make alcohol. We were told to bring some orange juice to school that day, so that we ‘could get rid of the surplus’.
    In college my practical was to make a tri nitro compound....didnt twig what it was till the lecturer told me not to let the temperature to get higher than a certain value else the lab would spread across the surrounding country....only had a litre of it
    Wat, no fluorine compounds? Slacker….

    https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/things-i-won-t-work-triazadienyl-fluoride
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,056
    Pagan2 said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    Pagan2 said:

    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Captain Miller: "You take a standard G.I sock, cram it with as much Composition B as it can hold, rig up a simple fuse, then coat the whole thing with axel grease. Now when you throw it, it should stick. Its a bomb that sticks, its a "sticky bomb". Think of a better way to knock out the tracks, I'm all ears."
    Which makes my point how do you ban weapons that kill people when socks or tights are on the list
    If you did chemistry, back when it was fun*, you look at the shelf in a hardware store and think - that & that….

    *doing home silvering of mirrors, if your silver nitrate solution turns black….
    My first job was as an industrial chemist....know what you mean....also qualifications in microbiology for the more viral moments if I ever chose to be a terrorist
    I remember having a chat with a quite senior professor who had got interested in science around the same time as me. We both, somewhat guiltily, admitted that "The Anarchists Cookbook" had sparked our interest.

    He now advises the UK Government on such things.

    “The Anarchists Cookbook" is full of things that don’t work and are more likely to kill/injure the wannabe anarchist.

    Most explosives are extremely simple. My brother made guncotton *by accident*.
    Isn’t it just HNO3 and cotton? Or do you need some H2SO4 too?
    You realise if anyone answers that question they may well fall foul of anti terrorism laws?
    …quickly deleting my Wikipedia history.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    I assume the risk is that the islands will be seized by the forces of the International Telecommunications Union if the UK is found in breach of international law?
    They have threatened to change the UK country code to:

    +87877724824

    (Work it out)
    It's not the long number from the IT Crowd. in LCD calculator it's h2Bh2LLLBLB upside down, which is meaningless. As a phone number it's 08787 772 4824 which does not return a hit on Google. CoPilot is baffled. 08787 is the area code for Orpí in Catalonia, which again is insignificant.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,502
    Breaking: Grenfell Tower to be demolished
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    Some of the Biggles books deal with Bf.109s in WW2. Edit: Pagan got there before me!
    But there weren't any Messerschmitt aircraft in WW1 :p
    No, but there were in WW2, in which Bigglesworth served. (And in the years immediately before.)
    As in “these Fockers were Messerscmitts”?
    By WW2 Fokker, had moved to Holland and his aircraft served alongside the Allies.
    Weren’t they available to both sides? Although those made in Holland after 1941 were very unreliable.
    It was in the name of Friendship and Fellowship.
    I get that reference
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    kle4 said:

    Sam Stein
    @samstein
    ·
    4m
    Reports are that DOGE staffers are now at NIH

    Who exactly are these 'staffers'?

    Hopefully more than just self proclaimed 'experts in everything' who look at something, take 5 minutes to 'assess' things, then come out with a confident but simplistic solution.

    That's when internet message boards are for.
    Take a wild guess. It's the same twenty-one year old nerd hackers he has in the rest of the buildings I suspect.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    The local government reorganisation is a good idea. The additional millions to hold elections now and for the new unitaries both was probably a small price to pay to avoid that charge (I still think the timetable to get it done for next year is unrealistic).
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 12,732
    Why has Musk gone after USAID? Could it be as simple as USAID was investigating him? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    Why has Musk gone after USAID? Could it be as simple as USAID was investigating him? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365

    IDK, are mega billionaires known for being petty and vindictive?
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
  • Evening PB.

    Sunset Song from 1971 on BBC4 tonight, comes highly recommended.

    Remember watching that....unmissable tv at the time. Lewis Grassic Gibbon's novel. Just starting on BB4 episode 1-3.
  • glwglw Posts: 10,169
    viewcode said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    I assume the risk is that the islands will be seized by the forces of the International Telecommunications Union if the UK is found in breach of international law?
    They have threatened to change the UK country code to:

    +87877724824

    (Work it out)
    It's not the long number from the IT Crowd. in LCD calculator it's h2Bh2LLLBLB upside down, which is meaningless. As a phone number it's 08787 772 4824 which does not return a hit on Google. CoPilot is baffled. 08787 is the area code for Orpí in Catalonia, which again is insignificant.
    TRUMPSBITCH, but I think the number should be +87867724824.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,169
    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
  • FF43FF43 Posts: 17,619
    edited February 5

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    I guess the 20 year old intern whose only previous experience was summer camp counsellor will be leading this safety critical update, once he's finished taking over the US government's main payment system.

    Edit. "will aim to make safety upgrades" doesn't scream confidence.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,169
    Hmm. So now the CIA is the target of a right wing coup.

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/the-cia-is-about-to-get-a-trump-makeover-16fc0cbf

    Putin must be pissing himself laughing.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 50,169

    Why has Musk gone after USAID? Could it be as simple as USAID was investigating him? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365

    Wasn't it simply because USAID was instrumental in ending Apartheid?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,587
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
    Our motto is "Move fast and break things".
  • Pro_RataPro_Rata Posts: 5,449

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    "Not a good look?"

    No, postponements for reorganisations are bolt on standard, see the last couple of rounds in North Yorkshire as one recent example.

    Anyone taking this line, be it Reform, Jendick, whoever, should be called out in the strongest terms for bullshit conspiracist wankshittery, they identify themselves as unserious Trump fellaters who are a clear and present danger to democracy.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648
    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,825
    viewcode said:

    rcs1000 said:

    RobD said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Riddle me this PB:

    Why are we giving away the Chagos Islands and paying THEM £18bn for the privilege?

    Is that the worse deal in history or is there actually some logic behind it?

    Bloomberg have the explanation for the logic.

    https://x.com/alexwickham/status/1887203226044539166
    I assume the risk is that the islands will be seized by the forces of the International Telecommunications Union if the UK is found in breach of international law?
    They have threatened to change the UK country code to:

    +87877724824

    (Work it out)
    It's not the long number from the IT Crowd. .
    0118999881999119725...3

    I don't need to google that, it is indelibly marked on my brain.
  • Nunu3Nunu3 Posts: 250
    Keir "traitor" Starmer.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    FF43 said:

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    I guess the 20 year old intern whose only previous experience was summer camp counsellor will be leading this safety critical update, once he's finished taking over the US government's main payment system.

    Edit. "will aim to make safety upgrades" doesn't scream confidence.
    At some point Musk's over reach is going to come crashing down around Trump's head and then the bromance will be over.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    Pro_Rata said:

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    "Not a good look?"

    No, postponements for reorganisations are bolt on standard, see the last couple of rounds in North Yorkshire as one recent example.

    Anyone taking this line, be it Reform, Jendick, whoever, should be called out in the strongest terms for bullshit conspiracist wankshittery, they identify themselves as unserious Trump fellaters who are a clear and present danger to democracy.

    It's a silly line, but it could work on a lot of people. Plenty of people in my area were accusing the councils of wanting to avoid elections, and they hadn't even requested a delay and in fact said the opposite (as no reorganisations were planned).
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Best place for a collision to happen I suppose?
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446

    FF43 said:

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    I guess the 20 year old intern whose only previous experience was summer camp counsellor will be leading this safety critical update, once he's finished taking over the US government's main payment system.

    Edit. "will aim to make safety upgrades" doesn't scream confidence.
    At some point Musk's over reach is going to come crashing down around Trump's head and then the bromance will be over.
    How much reckless damage in the meantime?
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 36,648

    FF43 said:

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    I guess the 20 year old intern whose only previous experience was summer camp counsellor will be leading this safety critical update, once he's finished taking over the US government's main payment system.

    Edit. "will aim to make safety upgrades" doesn't scream confidence.
    At some point Musk's over reach is going to come crashing down around Trump's head and then the bromance will be over.
    Apparently some Trump staff are already bitching about him
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    kle4 said:

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    The local government reorganisation is a good idea. The additional millions to hold elections now and for the new unitaries both was probably a small price to pay to avoid that charge (I still think the timetable to get it done for next year is unrealistic).
    Exactly. We could have elected a new set of county councillors for at least two years in May in those areas that have now been cancelled.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 64,216
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    What time did the kids starting rehacking code?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,569
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    An unfortunate cluster....or a clusterfuck?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,911
    Pagan2 said:

    kinabalu said:

    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    Socks?
    If I have a sock I have a weapon....can be used as a garotte if long enough, else fill with coins, gravel, sand, a half brick if one is available. A long one can also double as a sling....the lethal possibilities of a sock are myriad
    Oh gosh yes, I see. I'll watch out for that from now on.
  • PhilPhil Posts: 2,452
    edited February 5
    Foxy said:

    Why has Musk gone fter USAID? Could it be as simple as USAID was investigating him? https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365

    Wasn't it simply because USAID was instrumental in ending Apartheid?
    That‘s certainly one plausible explanation I’ve seen for why he started in on USAID as his first target. Notably, out of the bunch of tech-bros who are currently carrying out a takeover of the US government, three of them are white South Africans: Thiel, Sacks & Musk. The three of them carrying a life long grudge against USAID is entirely possible.

    https://www.ft.com/content/cfbfa1e8-d8f8-42b9-b74c-dae6cc6185a0
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
  • kamskikamski Posts: 5,816
    Pagan2 said:

    I'd suggest one of the reasons that knife crime exercises us so much is positive: it's because gun crime is relatively rare in the UK, for a variety of reasons including accessibility. So knives are the chosen weapon of many ne'er-do-wells.

    I share the scepticism about banning pointed knives. However, amidst all the scathing comments on here about the government's approach, I can't recall reading a single sensible suggestion that would reduce knife crime, either the act itself or the root causes. It's easy to oppose -what's the solution?

    The governments suggestions aren't sensible either. The only way to control the killings is to ban everything that could conceivably be used as a weapon to kill because people will just pack anyway. Gun's are a different category I think as they allow killing at a distance which makes you remote from the consequence.....so by all mean ban knives, chisels, screwdrivers, axes, crossbows, socks, awls, hammers,baseball bats, cricket bats, dowling, any martial arts weapon etc
    I don't think this is true.

    The majority of homicides (including with knives) are unplanned.

    People are unlikely to routinely carry a crossbow for protection. Nor do most people have them lying around.

    An effective ban on pointed knives would save lives. Whether it's worth it or workable is another question.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,825

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,641

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

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    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    In what ways has it gone to pot? This is news to me.
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,559
    edited February 5
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

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    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
    That sounds like a scheduled disassembly...
  • DriverDriver Posts: 5,559

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    An unfortunate cluster....or a clusterfuck?
    One of the planes in this was parked, and therefore presumably not under the control of ATC.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 29,793
    boulay said:

    CatMan said:

    boulay said:

    Taz said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Taz said:

    Pagan2 said:

    Taz said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    kle4 said:

    biggles said:

    kle4 said:

    kle4 said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Sean_F said:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy481jwjljjo

    I think that Sam Kerr was the author of her own misfortune.

    It's hard not to conclude that they were pissed and behaved badly, and seem to be rather surprised that there were consequences to their actions.
    She sounds like an arsehole drunk who was outraged at not being believed, which I doubt is unique with footballers of any gender in that situation, though being an arsehole in itself should not be a crime.
    If being an arsehole were a crime...

    fuck me, there'd be some by-elections...
    I have no doubt, however, that many people think being an arsehole is, or should be, a crime.

    Sadly, in some cases, they may well be right!
    I am ok with it being a crime, provided I am the arbiter of being an arsehole.

    Don’t thank me for holding the door? Prison.

    Play music out loud on the train? Prison.
    Funny, I don't remember a 'Biggles enforces a police state' book.

    Maybe that was 1956's - 'Biggles takes charge.


    Leading to 1963's - 'Biggles takes it rough'.
    His short lived and undistinguished foray into porn?
    That was 'Biggles' Camel Hump.'
    A focker on every page.
    Did Biggles say ‘these fockers were in Messerschmitts’ ?
    Were there any Messerschmitts in WW1?

    #PBpendantry
    biggles fought in both wars I believe pbbiggerpederantry
    What did he do inbetween the wars ?

    Did he go back to Pratt and Sons and play cricket for the Croydon Gentlemen or did he stay in the fledgling airforce. I’d guess not many interwar stories of Biggles were written.
    Between the wars, he fought criminals.

    And then he went off to Spain and was involved in the civil war there. I forget which side he was on.
    I was wondering why there was never a tv version, unlike the likes of Dick Barton, but there was. In 1960. Although I doubt any exist now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biggles_(TV_series)
    There was a not great film made in the 80s. I remember being very excited about my mother hiring it for me from a video rental shop one Saturday morning as I had a school friend coming to stay for the night and it wasn't quite what we hoped for.

    The one with time travel? That was....weird.
    That’s the one - just googled it and it clearly killed the careers of everyone in it apart from Peter Cushing as I don’t think I’ve ever seen any of them in anything since.
    I really like it. Managed quite a lot on a small budget. Not quite there, but entertaining enough.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,554
    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408
    kle4 said:

    FF43 said:

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    I guess the 20 year old intern whose only previous experience was summer camp counsellor will be leading this safety critical update, once he's finished taking over the US government's main payment system.

    Edit. "will aim to make safety upgrades" doesn't scream confidence.
    At some point Musk's over reach is going to come crashing down around Trump's head and then the bromance will be over.
    How much reckless damage in the meantime?
    Who cares? It gets clicks!...
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
    Our motto is "Move fast and break things".
    I quite like sentry.io's motto of "Move fast and fix things".
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    The easy answer would be sense and competence are not the key skills that get you ahead in politics.

    But being relatively under the radar but competent could indeed serve a future candidate well now. Whereas someone like Streeting, even if he does prove himself, feels too...current, in the political scene to me. His star will fade sooner.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
    The burning plane he's referring to was the 747 containing the fake soldiers and the drug lord at the end of the film, not the 707? piloted by Miles Edward O'Brien in the middle of the film.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408
    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
    Brings to mind this (filthy!) 1999 Prince track :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sGh8zBD4U

    ---

    Good evening. This is your pilot Prince speaking
    You are flying aboard the Seduction 747
    Mmm, and this plane is fully equipped with anything
    Your body desires
    If, for any reason, there is a loss in cabin pressure
    I will automatically drop down to apply more
    To activate the flow of excitement

    ---

    One of the less (marvellously) dirty sections. (and also the first of his tracks to mention "Diamonds and Pearls" - which became a theme)
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
    "We gotcha! We gotcha!"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    viewcode said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
    The burning plane he's referring to was the 747 containing the fake soldiers and the drug lord at the end of the film, not the 707? piloted by Miles Edward O'Brien in the middle of the film.
    DC-8, it was NOT a 707!

    #PBpedantry
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    edited February 5

    viewcode said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
    The burning plane he's referring to was the 747 containing the fake soldiers and the drug lord at the end of the film, not the 707? piloted by Miles Edward O'Brien in the middle of the film.
    DC-8, it was NOT a 707!

    #PBpedantry
    Hence the question mark. I was working from memory.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850
    Pro_Rata said:

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    "Not a good look?"

    No, postponements for reorganisations are bolt on standard, see the last couple of rounds in North Yorkshire as one recent example.

    Anyone taking this line, be it Reform, Jendick, whoever, should be called out in the strongest terms for bullshit conspiracist wankshittery, they identify themselves as unserious Trump fellaters who are a clear and present danger to democracy.

    The LibDems have joined Farage in taking that line.

    If it’s “bolt on standard” sensible money saving when reorganisations a year away, why has the Labour government picked and chosen who can, and who cannot postpone? How come bolt in standard, merely on Labour’s whim?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408
    Andy_JS said:
    Who is 'VC'?
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,850
    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    Charisma?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408

    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    Charisma?
    I have never heard from or of her before. So a possible John Major bet, I guess. Assuming that 'sensible and competent' has betting value in the future.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,434
    ohnotnow said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    Charisma?
    I have never heard from or of her before. So a possible John Major bet, I guess. Assuming that 'sensible and competent' has betting value in the future.
    The last four people to "win" a GE were Cameron (2010, 15), May (2017), Boris (2019) and Starmer (2024). Hmm...
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,958
    kle4 said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    "Not a good look?"

    No, postponements for reorganisations are bolt on standard, see the last couple of rounds in North Yorkshire as one recent example.

    Anyone taking this line, be it Reform, Jendick, whoever, should be called out in the strongest terms for bullshit conspiracist wankshittery, they identify themselves as unserious Trump fellaters who are a clear and present danger to democracy.

    It's a silly line, but it could work on a lot of people. Plenty of people in my area were accusing the councils of wanting to avoid elections, and they hadn't even requested a delay and in fact said the opposite (as no reorganisations were planned).
    As ever though, I think people need to think more broadly than "what some people are shouting about on Twitter".

    Firstly, sadly, how many people care or pay attention to local elections (not too many given turnout). Secondly, if you're susceptible to it, how far are you down the rabbithole already? Is it just a situation where certain people have decided the government are malign and anything they do is an example of some awful conspiracy? Thirdly, the government will have a reasonable case to make to those who are pissed off now when elections are eventually held in those places - sorry you had to wait a year but it was a reorganisation to save your money.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    Driver said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

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    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    An unfortunate cluster....or a clusterfuck?
    One of the planes in this was parked, and therefore presumably not under the control of ATC.
    Although ATC presumably told the plane where to park, and was therefore should have been at least vaguely aware of its location.

    FWIW - these accidents happen fairly regularly. We probably only know about this, because (dog bites man style) it's following on from a couple of other more serious plane crash stories.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    ohnotnow said:

    Andy_JS said:
    Who is 'VC'?
    Valdo Calocane.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,683
    ohnotnow said:

    Foxy said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

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    Elon Musk @elonmusk
    ·
    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    This is your pilot speaking. We take off in 10 minutes, climbing to 30 000 feet before the rapid unscheduled disassembly. Fasten your seat belts.
    Our motto is "Move fast and break things".
    I quite like sentry.io's motto of "Move fast and fix things".
    My motto is "Move fast to evade responsibility."
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 97,446
    MJW said:

    kle4 said:

    Pro_Rata said:

    The cancelling of elections is not a good look at all for Labour and stupidly plays right into Farage's hands.

    Social media already spreading Tice and Farage clips saying it is denying 5 million people a vote this spring.

    "Not a good look?"

    No, postponements for reorganisations are bolt on standard, see the last couple of rounds in North Yorkshire as one recent example.

    Anyone taking this line, be it Reform, Jendick, whoever, should be called out in the strongest terms for bullshit conspiracist wankshittery, they identify themselves as unserious Trump fellaters who are a clear and present danger to democracy.

    It's a silly line, but it could work on a lot of people. Plenty of people in my area were accusing the councils of wanting to avoid elections, and they hadn't even requested a delay and in fact said the opposite (as no reorganisations were planned).
    As ever though, I think people need to think more broadly than "what some people are shouting about on Twitter".

    Firstly, sadly, how many people care or pay attention to local elections (not too many given turnout). Secondly, if you're susceptible to it, how far are you down the rabbithole already? Is it just a situation where certain people have decided the government are malign and anything they do is an example of some awful conspiracy? Thirdly, the government will have a reasonable case to make to those who are pissed off now when elections are eventually held in those places - sorry you had to wait a year but it was a reorganisation to save your money.

    I'd generally agree, but local elections you get around 1/3 turnout, low as you say, and some wards can be pretty small, so those yelling on twitter might be a more impactful number than those yelling about things during a GE.

    Of course, if Reform is doing well in polls nationally they may well do pretty well with little effort in areas where elections are going ahead, and it'd be hard to say whether 'anger' will make a difference in the other areas in a year or two.

    No one really cares about their local council anyway, I've had some political anecdotes where candidates told people to look at their council tax bill because the person didn't realise bits were taken on behalf of different councils/authorities (eg fire/police/town/unitary), but in brief moments they can get worked up.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 58,481
    viewcode said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Scott_xP said:

    rcs1000 said:

    glw said:

    glw said:

    .

    Any PBers flying in or to US in next few weeks?

    Brace.



    Elon Musk @elonmusk
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    47m
    With the support of President @realDonaldTrump, the @DOGE
    team will aim to make rapid safety upgrades to the air traffic control system.

    Just a few days ago, the FAA’s primary aircraft safety notification system failed for several hours!

    Ah yes if there is one thing that safety critical systems would benefit from it is agile development. Genius!
    "This shit's written in 'C', we need to rehack it in Mojo, give me your password and keyboard now."
    It doesn't matter how good a developer you are if you have no experience in the domain you can't "make rapid safefy upgrades". Something like ATC is going to need a lot of knowledge, training, and processes to follow or you can really screw things up, hopefully in safe way by grounding aircraft and not in a dangerous way.
    Look, we'll lose a few planes and passengers along the way, but we're rapidly iterating and we estimate it will take no more than seven or eight... incidents... before we have it working as well before. Only in Erlang.
    @FoxNews

    BREAKING: Delta Airlines, Japan Airlines planes collide on the ground in Seattle
    https://trib.al/dSoY5XN
    Since Trump took over, air travel Stateside has gone to pot.
    Wait till they have to land at the airports using the flaming wreckage of another plane in lieu of landing lights, Die Hard 2 style.
    That made no sense. The plane was almost completely out of fuel: any burning was likely to be therefore limited to the drinks trolley.
    The burning plane he's referring to was the 747 containing the fake soldiers and the drug lord at the end of the film, not the 707? piloted by Miles Edward O'Brien in the middle of the film.
    You make an excellent point. It was the Windsor Air (?) flight that was deliberately crashed (presumably because its radar altimeter was broken).
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,117
    CIA Sets Off Security Crisis With One Email to Trump’s White House

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/cia-sets-off-security-crisis-204618974.html
    The New York Times is reporting that the Central Intelligence Agency, complying with Trump’s attempts to purge the federal government, sent his administration an unclassified email containing a list of every single person the CIA had hired over the past two years. Security experts everywhere are alarmed at the news, as many of those named closely monitor U.S. adversaries like Russia and China—and could soon become targets because of it.

    The list, which was sent to the White House’s Office of Management and Budget, contained names of operatives whose identities are typically guarded. It’s not clear how many names were in the email.

    “Exposing the identities of officials who do extremely sensitive work would put a direct target on their backs for China,” Democratic Senator Mark Warner wrote on X. “A disastrous national security development.”

    A former CIA officer described the email as a “counterintelligence disaster.” This comes as Trump offered CIA employees an unauthorized “buyout” in return for their resignations.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,408
    viewcode said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    Charisma?
    I have never heard from or of her before. So a possible John Major bet, I guess. Assuming that 'sensible and competent' has betting value in the future.
    The last four people to "win" a GE were Cameron (2010, 15), May (2017), Boris (2019) and Starmer (2024). Hmm...
    From that list I'd been quite aware of Boris, May and Cameron before they 'won'. Maybe I was faintly aware of Starmer in a 'oh, the grey guy who talks in turgid terms about Europe' way.

    Either way - I'm still not giving a bookie a quid on.... the Labour person I've already forgotten the name of.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,909
    Cyclefree said:

    Labour leader of the future: why not the Justice Secretary, Shabana Mahmood. Seems rather more sensible and competent than others.

    Are you sure, Cyclefree?

    Mahmood says on her website that she is a passionate supporter of Palestinian rights.[59] In 2014, Mahmood took part in a demonstration outside a branch of Sainsbury's in central Birmingham. She said "We lay down in the street and we laid down inside Sainsbury's to say we object to them stocking goods from illegal settlements – and that they must stop. We managed to close down that store at peak time on a Saturday. This is how we can make a difference."[60] The Jewish Chronicle reported that she was criticised for this by members of the Board of Deputies and the Jewish Leadership Council. The report also said that the chair of the Jewish Labour Movement and the director of Antisemitism Policy Trust both said that she had taken action against anti-semitism.[61]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shabana_Mahmood#Israel_and_Palestine
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