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  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    There’s a very fine line between stalking and being romantic.
    Was that your closing submission to the court right before you decided criminal law might not be for you?
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    Also "Baby It's Cold Outside"
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 74,156
    The Soviets made a million of these between the end of WWII and 1980.
    (And the Provos used one to shoot down an army helicopter back in the day.)

    https://x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1883780521857298725
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,958
    Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    "The seven members of one of Scotland's biggest child sex abuse rings have been given life-long sentences and warned that they may never be released."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o

    They actually look like orcs.
    I suspect few of us look our best in police mug shots but I'm starting to wonder if AI couldn't learn to pick out wrong 'uns just from their obviously guilty faces.
    So many paedos look like caricatures of paedos. People of obviously low intelligence, hideously ugly, and devoid of morals.
    The police and press have a long history of using the picture that portrays people as they want them to be seen.

    With the advent of cheap digital cameras, you can essentially film someone at 50-60fps and pick the one that makes them look evil/noble/brilliant/gormless.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    edited January 27
    Foss said:

    Sandpit said:

    Foss said:

    TimS said:

    Carnyx said:

    Foss said:

    Eabhal said:

    Spotted the council checking some damage on a tenement with a drone. What a fascinating modern age we live in.

    Last time we had some roof work done I was able to provide drone shots of the issues. It cut down on confusion and made the whole thing so much easier
    Ditto, for m-i-l's house (neighbour had a drone so it was free).
    And same for a solar PV company doing us a quote for rooftop panels. A obvious thing to do in hindsight but I was still surprised and impressed when they got the drone out.

    I got a small drone for Christmas about 5 years ago. It was so rubbish I couldn't even manage to keep it in the same field on a breezy day, and the photos were terrible. Put me off drones for years. Now I'm wishing I'd just got a more expensive one to start with.
    The light drones (250g) have less regs around them. But they do get blown around more.
    Yes the trick is to buy a decent one that’s 250g, something like DJI Mini. ($300)
    https://store.dji.com/product/dji-mini-4k?from=store_homepage&vid=166281
    The toy ones are uncontrollable outside on anything other than a dead calm day, and the heavier ones require formal training and licensing for commercial use.
    The Mini is a nice drone - but the US has been talking about banning DJI and, if they do so, one has to wonder how long their western business has to live.
    Yes you wouldn’t want to go mapping nuclear power stations with anything Chinese, but they won’t care too much about a little local domestic survey work. DJI could definitely get caught up in a political trade spat with the US though.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    "Younger generations"? Well, technically speaking I suppose...but it came out 28 years ago. "I'll be Missing You" by Puff Daddy is far closer in time (14 years) to "Every Breath You Take" than it is to us (28 years)...
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,533
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    Innocent me thought it was all about democratic scrutiny...
    There was an urban myth he wrote it about his first wife as they were divorcing at the time but that is not on any official account.

    He moved onto another actress, Trudy Styler, and got into Tantric Love with 6 hour lovemaking sessions and the like. Takes all sorts i guess.
    Not just an urban myth:

    "“I think it’s a nasty little song, really rather evil. It’s about jealousy and surveillance and ownership,” Sting said in 1983. The Police frontman was speaking during a sold-out arena tour of the US. Thanks to the “nasty little song”, which had just spent two months at the top of the Billboard singles chart, the trio were acclaimed as the world’s biggest band. They were also on the verge of breaking up.

    “Every Breath You Take”was written in 1982 when Sting was suffering what he called a “mental breakdown” amid the disintegration of his first marriage. It was a straightforward song by The Police’s standards: “generic” and “rule-obeying” in Sting’s words."

    https://ig.ft.com/life-of-a-song/every-breath-you-take.html
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,915
    edited January 27
    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    Sampled, not covered.
    His song is called I'll Be Missing You.

    ""I'll Be Missing You" is based on a sample of the 1983 single "Every Breath You Take" by the Police. It also uses an interpolation of the "Every Breath You Take" melody, sung by Biggie's widow, Faith Evans. Combs did not secure legal approval for the sample before releasing the song, and Police songwriter Sting sued, receiving 100% of the song royalties, with payments reportedly going until 2053.[2][3] Police guitarist Andy Summers called the sample "a major rip-off", and told the A.V. Club: "I found out about it after it was on the radio ... I’d be walking round Tower Records, and the fucking thing would be playing over and over. It was very bizarre while it lasted."[4] Sting later reconciled with Bad Boy, and performed the song alongside Puff Daddy and Evans in September 1997 at the MTV Video Music Awards.[5][6]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'll_Be_Missing_You
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,923
    TimS said:

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    I was also stalked by a woman. Mercifully briefly, and she backed off when I laid down the law. But it was unnerving while it happened.
    Mine lasted just over a year with her telling people we were in a relationship, even contacting my Facebook friends and introducing herself as my fiance, turning up at my home in the middle of the night.

    It only stopped when I had been seeing someone for about a month and she realised it was pointless I guess.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,085
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    Innocent me thought it was all about democratic scrutiny...
    There was an urban myth he wrote it about his first wife as they were divorcing at the time but that is not on any official account.

    He moved onto another actress, Trudy Styler, and got into Tantric Love with 6 hour lovemaking sessions and the like. Takes all sorts i guess.
    I wonder would the Rock Choir sing Ian Dury's "F*ck Off Noddy!".
  • MJWMJW Posts: 1,960
    On topic, beyond the obvious - the most notable right-wing populist is someone who even some of his supporters admit is a habitual liar, so he and his party may 'Spiders Georg' the figures and plus others emulate him. This could be because populist politics is more vibe and 'feeling' based than centrist politics - which aims to be and values more technocratic and fact-based politics - even when it gets it wrong.

    That can have its advantages - emotion is an important part of politics, as we found out in the Brexit Referendum when an emotional appeal defeated a technocratic one. But it's also led to some really dangerous radicalisation as social media favours the sharing of extreme views and claims as if you're going on vibes and emotion one is less likely to check your change when something chimes with your gut feeling.

    That's of course not to say others are immune - look at FBPE or the Corbynites - but the modern right appears to be much more vibe-based and work back from there than it was even 10 years ago.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,868
    boulay said:

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    There’s a very fine line between stalking and being romantic.
    It’s the flowers isn’t it. Heads on, romance, heads off, problems.
    My sister used to work as a florist and once had a request by a spurned woman to send a funeral wreath to her ex's office. I think the request was refused.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 18,092
    edited January 27
    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    Innocent me thought it was all about democratic scrutiny...
    There was an urban myth he wrote it about his first wife as they were divorcing at the time but that is not on any official account.

    He moved onto another actress, Trudy Styler, and got into Tantric Love with 6 hour lovemaking sessions and the like. Takes all sorts i guess.
    Allegedly that was a mis-hearing of 'frantic sex', but he liked the new version so much it stuck.

    Apropos of nothing I was gobsmacked to meet Sting one day while walking with my parents - gobsmacked because dad (a) knew who he was but more importantly (b) Sting knew who my dad was. At the time dad was in charge of the police where Sting lives and had been involved in the security arrangements for an event at the house.
    You rarely expect your dad to know A list musicians.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    edited January 27
    Nigelb said:

    I misread the title of the previous thread as "Is Nigel Farage far right?" :lol:

    That was not my intention.

    I would never use headlines that could be considered clickbait.
    It could have been How Far is Farage Right ?
    Surely with Nigel Farage far is in the middle (or on the left if you don’t use his first name).
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,533
    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    What, Ken Dodd??
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,102
    boulay said:

    TimS said:

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    I was also stalked by a woman. Mercifully briefly, and she backed off when I laid down the law. But it was unnerving while it happened.
    Mine lasted just over a year with her telling people we were in a relationship, even contacting my Facebook friends and introducing herself as my fiance, turning up at my home in the middle of the night.

    It only stopped when I had been seeing someone for about a month and she realised it was pointless I guess.
    Yuck. The Baby Reindeer timeline.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    DougSeal said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    "Younger generations"? Well, technically speaking I suppose...but it came out 28 years ago. "I'll be Missing You" by Puff Daddy is far closer in time (14 years) to "Every Breath You Take" than it is to us (28 years)...
    Well that’s me feeling old for the day!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 52,958
    TimS said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    I don't understand why Sting is so defensive about the lyrics. They're what make it such a powerful song. Writing creepy lyrics like that doesn't mean he's a stalker anymore than Bruce Dickinson actually wants to send his daughter to the slaughter or Jenrick-lookalike Brandon Flowers wants to murder his girlfriend in Midnight Show.
    Much less pressure was exerted on Prodigy - though I think they withdrew the original video to “Smack My Bitch Up”.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 12,745
    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    Sting got pissed off how many people said they'd played the song at their wedding, and wrote "If You Love Somebody Set Them Free" as an "antidote".

    Other Police songs with... complicated lyrics include "Can't Stand Losing You" and "Don't Stand So Close to Me".
  • Sean_F said:

    Sean_F said:

    "The seven members of one of Scotland's biggest child sex abuse rings have been given life-long sentences and warned that they may never be released."

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o

    They actually look like orcs.
    I suspect few of us look our best in police mug shots but I'm starting to wonder if AI couldn't learn to pick out wrong 'uns just from their obviously guilty faces.
    So many paedos look like caricatures of paedos. People of obviously low intelligence, hideously ugly, and devoid of morals.
    This tendency to judge character from appearance is why some of us choose not to have a profile picture :wink:
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 12,745
    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
  • DougSeal said:

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    There’s a very fine line between stalking and being romantic.
    Was that your closing submission to the court right before you decided criminal law might not be for you?
    Indeed.

    I know this will come as a galloping shock to all of you, but I am not very subtle, so the first time I fell in love, everyone else knew, except me.

    People found my geeky innocence endearing.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021

    TimS said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    I don't understand why Sting is so defensive about the lyrics. They're what make it such a powerful song. Writing creepy lyrics like that doesn't mean he's a stalker anymore than Bruce Dickinson actually wants to send his daughter to the slaughter or Jenrick-lookalike Brandon Flowers wants to murder his girlfriend in Midnight Show.
    Much less pressure was exerted on Prodigy - though I think they withdrew the original video to “Smack My Bitch Up”.
    That was a brilliant video, MTV wouldn’t play the original version until after midnight. Great twist at the end, which we’d all call ‘woke’ if it was today.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 14,102

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
    Of all the ones mentioned I think the one that's actually most problematic is Baby it's Cold Outside. The others don't hide the fact they are about control or violence and aren't condoning it. Whereas that one's intended to be a cheerful, homely song celebrating some really quite controlling behaviour as if it's just being romantic.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
    Robert Smith's a francophile and the lyrics of one of the earliest songs by The Cure was taken from a pivotal episode in Camus' L'etranger. If he'd have called it "Standing on the Beach" rather than ultimately going with "Killing an Arab" he would have suffered far fewer problems later on.
  • Sandpit said:

    DougSeal said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    "Younger generations"? Well, technically speaking I suppose...but it came out 28 years ago. "I'll be Missing You" by Puff Daddy is far closer in time (14 years) to "Every Breath You Take" than it is to us (28 years)...
    Well that’s me feeling old for the day!
    Nothing will ever top when your colleagues say to you ‘guys your age’ when talking about Oasis.
  • sarissasarissa Posts: 2,056
    viewcode said:

    Gold prices over time. Note to teenaged self: buy gold

    https://www.chards.co.uk/gold-price/gold-price-history

    now adjust for inflation:
    https://www.macrotrends.net/1333/historical-gold-prices-100-year-chart
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,681
    edited January 27

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
    Cliff Richard's "Living Doll"?

    ...gonna lock her up in trunk, so no big hunk...
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,923
    TimS said:

    boulay said:

    TimS said:

    boulay said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    One of Netflix’s most popular shows amongst women was “You” about a stalker. The song doesn’t glorify stalking.

    Humans can often work out for themselves if they should stalk people because Sting sang about a stalker or if they shouldn’t - I was stalked by a woman and would hazard she didn’t do it because of a song.
    I was also stalked by a woman. Mercifully briefly, and she backed off when I laid down the law. But it was unnerving while it happened.
    Mine lasted just over a year with her telling people we were in a relationship, even contacting my Facebook friends and introducing herself as my fiance, turning up at my home in the middle of the night.

    It only stopped when I had been seeing someone for about a month and she realised it was pointless I guess.
    Yuck. The Baby Reindeer timeline.
    Didn’t matter how many mutual female acquaintances/friends told her it’s not happening she kept going but I think actually seeing me with someone else a number of times broke the mindset.

    Some people need mental help, some police intervention and some just a reality check.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    Taz said:

    Nigelb said:

    DougSeal said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    It's about a stalker. It is an inherently creepy song.
    Innocent me thought it was all about democratic scrutiny...
    There was an urban myth he wrote it about his first wife as they were divorcing at the time but that is not on any official account.

    He moved onto another actress, Trudy Styler, and got into Tantric Love with 6 hour lovemaking sessions and the like. Takes all sorts i guess.
    Allegedly that was a mis-hearing of 'frantic sex', but he liked the new version so much it stuck.

    Apropos of nothing I was gobsmacked to meet Sting one day while walking with my parents - gobsmacked because dad (a) knew who he was but more importantly (b) Sting knew who my dad was. At the time dad was in charge of the police where Sting lives and had been involved in the security arrangements for an event at the house.
    You rarely expect your dad to know A list musicians.
    I am sure there is a gag there about your Dad knowing Sting and being in the Police by my gag writing ability is sadly deficient to make it.

    Great story and a true A List musician as well.

    Sting has not forgotten his roots either and still does stuff for the North East quite regularly.


  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    sarissa said:
    If you’d bought gold 25 years ago, at the turn of the century, you’d now be at 5x your initial investment in real terms.

    Yes, Tesla, Apple, or NVidia have done better, but it beats the bank account and the S&P tracker.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,445
    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous


    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!


    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Leon said:

    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous

    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!

    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”

    The last stand of Hollywood wokeness, before we start getting decent comedies back.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
    Never heard of it so had a google. The first couple of lines pull no punches. It sets the tone somewhat.

    "Well, I'd rather see you dead, little girl
    Than to be with another man"
  • Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    Taz said:

    Pulpstar said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    Remember Delilah getting cancelled a couple of years back.
    The Stones "Under My Thumb" has been considered problematic too.
    Or The Beatles' "Run for Your Life".
    Cliff Richard's "Living Doll"?

    ...gonna lock her up in trunk, so no big hunk...
    Of course there's the whimsical little ditty "Smack up my Bitch" by The Prodigy which had many bans as well.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    Leon said:

    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous


    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!


    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”

    I will say this only once


  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 33,642
    edited January 27
    Leon said:

    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous


    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!


    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”

    Saw it a couple of weeks ago. The first half was quite good in terms of atmosphere.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    If you’re in the UK, the International Space Station is 14 minutes away from being directly overhead.

    https://x.com/astro_timpeake/status/1883913400637411433
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    edited January 27

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,443
    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    #pbfreespeech. Or possibly #pbfreesong in this case.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,645
    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,915
    DougSeal said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    "Younger generations"? Well, technically speaking I suppose...but it came out 28 years ago. "I'll be Missing You" by Puff Daddy is far closer in time (14 years) to "Every Breath You Take" than it is to us (28 years)...
    The Falklands War is closer in time to WW2 than it is to us.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,645
    viewcode said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    #pbfreespeech. Or possibly #pbfreesong in this case.
    I always thought it was based on a commentary from a respiratory specialist in A&E.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    edited January 27

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Nope I'm suggesting that they work 5 days a week from Monday to Friday as currently a lot of courts don't do so.

    There is an awful lot of spare capacity available from Monday to Friday even before we thought about weekends..

  • Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    I prefer this cover, as used in the opening episode of season 2 of Sex Education.

    https://youtu.be/uZ5VNXIiv1c?si=auxSsn6OBjgGx82_
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,445
    edited January 27

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    GREAT song. I once wrote an entire article about the brilliant cover version by Scala, the Choir of Belgian Virgins
  • Leon said:

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    GREAT song. i once wrote an entire article about the brilliant cover version by Scala, the Choir of Belgian Virgins
    Spooky, see my post one minute before yours.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
  • Pagan2Pagan2 Posts: 10,373
    Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    Try l7 a female band that used to raffle off one of the band members to the audience for a night of fun
  • boulayboulay Posts: 5,923
    edited January 27
    Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    Tame compared to mainstream stuff too - Guess by Charli XCX/Billie Eilish makes I Touch Myself seem quite prudish really.
  • Nigel_ForemainNigel_Foremain Posts: 14,645
    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    I believe it will take two years to get an employment tribunal to take place, and then some considerable period before adjudication. Pretty crap if you are an employee who has been wronged or, on the other hand, a company that has had a vexatious case brought against them.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    I've just seen what the pay is - no wonder they have problem trying to find people

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65129fe1f6746b000da4b9ab/judicial-fees-2023-2024.pdf
  • FossFoss Posts: 1,237

    DougSeal said:

    Sandpit said:

    Andy_JS said:

    "Britain’s largest choir stop performing The Police’s ‘Every Breath You Take’ due to controversial lyrics and “impact of the narrative”. Comprising over 31,000 members across the UK, the Rock Choir has long performed the classic 1983 track but has now confirmed it will be removing it from the repertoire."

    https://www.nme.com/news/music/britains-largest-choir-stop-performing-the-police-every-breath-you-take-3831072

    A song more famous among the younger generations for being covered by the artist formerly known as Diddy.
    "Younger generations"? Well, technically speaking I suppose...but it came out 28 years ago. "I'll be Missing You" by Puff Daddy is far closer in time (14 years) to "Every Breath You Take" than it is to us (28 years)...
    The Falklands War is closer in time to WW2 than it is to us.
    What will really trouble you is that we're less than two and a half years from 'Aliens' being closer to WW2 than now...
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,404
    edited January 27
    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,445
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous


    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!


    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”

    Saw it a couple of weeks ago. The first half was quite good in terms of atmosphere.
    Andy_JS said:

    Leon said:

    Omfg CONCLAVE is fucking ludicrous


    Are they really gonna give it the Oscar?!


    “Yes eet eez true. Ze holy father ‘e knew I ‘ave seven penises”

    Saw it a couple of weeks ago. The first half was quite good in terms of atmosphere.
    It’s a really weird movie. The cinematography is superb, the acting is excellent, the soundtrack is good - but the plot and the script get increasingly turgid and then risible and by the end it devolves into a bizarre and comical puddle of silly woke nonsense

    It’s been nommed for EIGHT Oscars which is not a sign of a healthy film industry. BAD
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    I believe it will take two years to get an employment tribunal to take place, and then some considerable period before adjudication. Pretty crap if you are an employee who has been wronged or, on the other hand, a company that has had a vexatious case brought against them.
    That's not far off. I'm getting hearings pretty quickly at the East London Tribunal, 12 months away in Central London, but in South London you may as well forget it. That being said, the South London Tribunal is above a Lidl in Croydon that got torched in the 2011 riots, and they were holding hearings in it within a few days on, I kid you not, partially melted plastic chairs.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    edited January 27
    boulay said:

    Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    Tame compared to mainstream stuff too - Guess by Charli XCX/Billie Eilish makes I Touch Myself seem quite prudish really.
    As this comic act shows rather well

    https://youtu.be/7nzYGZXKBYY
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    I believe it will take two years to get an employment tribunal to take place, and then some considerable period before adjudication. Pretty crap if you are an employee who has been wronged or, on the other hand, a company that has had a vexatious case brought against them.
    Those of us who are F1 fans are well aware of the employment tribunal queue. It’s at least one year so far.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    eek said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    I've just seen what the pay is - no wonder they have problem trying to find people

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65129fe1f6746b000da4b9ab/judicial-fees-2023-2024.pdf
    I'd do it part-time I think if I became a consultant.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    I just googled/youtubed it. Apologies I need clarification. Is it:

    a) a classic example of female empowerment; or

    b) soft porn for the Spectator-reading cavalry-twill-wearing aged retired colonel demographic.

    tia

  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    Pagan2 said:

    Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    Try l7 a female band that used to raffle off one of the band members to the audience for a night of fun
    I am guessing a night of fun wasn't playing Scrabble or Ker-Plunk !!!!
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,373

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    A Cambridge-educated lawyer repeatedly saying courtrooms rather than courts – enough to drive anyone up the Rumpole. Can someone ask this new Chinese AI machine who was running the country while this appalling state of affairs unfolded.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 58,445
    THIS should get the Oscar. Keir Starmer and Donald Trump share a flat.

    https://x.com/boldyboy1975/status/1883686356549034186?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612
    TOPPING said:

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    I just googled/youtubed it. Apologies I need clarification. Is it:

    a) a classic example of female empowerment; or

    b) soft porn for the Spectator-reading cavalry-twill-wearing aged retired colonel demographic.

    tia

    I was just reading about it on Wiki. Tinged with Sadness as one of the writers of it died of Breast Cancer and after she died the "I Touch Myself" project was created to raise awareness of this sad condition which can also affect men albeit proportionally far fewer. I used to work with a chap who had suffered from it too
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    eek said:

    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
    Conversely, if you go in to hospital for treatment as an in-patient and they wrap up whatever they were treating you for on a Weds/Thurs you will stay in the hospital until Monday at the earliest because no one will be there to fill your prescriptions or discharge you.

    So there is that.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,021
    Taz said:



    boulay said:

    Taz said:


    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    Probably prefer to lie down at the time to be honest.

    Although tame stuff compared to a little know female band called Rockbitch.
    Tame compared to mainstream stuff too - Guess by Charli XCX/Billie Eilish makes I Touch Myself seem quite prudish really.
    As this comic act shows rather well

    https://youtu.be/7nzYGZXKBYY
    That’s brilliant!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    Taz said:

    TOPPING said:

    Where do we stand on ‘I Touch Myself’ by The Divinyls?

    I just googled/youtubed it. Apologies I need clarification. Is it:

    a) a classic example of female empowerment; or

    b) soft porn for the Spectator-reading cavalry-twill-wearing aged retired colonel demographic.

    tia

    I was just reading about it on Wiki. Tinged with Sadness as one of the writers of it died of Breast Cancer and after she died the "I Touch Myself" project was created to raise awareness of this sad condition which can also affect men albeit proportionally far fewer. I used to work with a chap who had suffered from it too
    Brother of a friend had it also. Uncommon but not bonkersly uncommon.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,915
    edited January 27
    Sandpit said:

    If you’re in the UK, the International Space Station is 14 minutes away from being directly overhead.

    https://x.com/astro_timpeake/status/1883913400637411433

    I saw it, man! Passed not far from, and almost as bright as Jupiter! Thanks for the heads up!
  • AnneJGPAnneJGP Posts: 3,210
    Interesting thread header, @bondegezou, thank you. Do you know where the episodes during New Labour's term fit into the model? Pretty small beer by comparison, I know.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920
    Yes the populist right are close to monopoly market leaders in lies and misinformation. The study is correct. We need to find a way to counter it. This will mean ignoring their disingenuous whining about "free speech".
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
    Conversely, if you go in to hospital for treatment as an in-patient and they wrap up whatever they were treating you for on a Weds/Thurs you will stay in the hospital until Monday at the earliest because no one will be there to fill your prescriptions or discharge you.

    So there is that.
    Not where I live, you will be out the door that day...

    Pharmacy is open every day of the week and where that isn't the case the prescription can be sorted at my local pharmacy that is open late 7 days a week.

    Live up north it's great living in an area where people can afford to own a house...
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,373
    Sandpit said:

    sarissa said:
    If you’d bought gold 25 years ago, at the turn of the century, you’d now be at 5x your initial investment in real terms.

    Yes, Tesla, Apple, or NVidia have done better, but it beats the bank account and the S&P tracker.
    Lots of gold in Greenland, coincidentally.

    Inside the race for Greenland's mineral wealth
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d5jwvw9nlo
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920

    An alternative possibility (from a quick scan of the methods it seems that the data relates to tweets about news stories that have been identified as factually lacking) is the right is more gullible and links to said stories because they believe them.

    That's a good point. They are more gullible.
  • state_go_awaystate_go_away Posts: 5,836
    DeepSeek under cyber attack after sending Nvidia down nearly 20% on the stock price today
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920

    Like, duh.

    Yes, touch of the do bears poop in the woods.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 25,233

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    At my local hospital, weekend clinics (including Sundays) have been a thing for years.
  • TazTaz Posts: 16,612

    DeepSeek under cyber attack after sending Nvidia down nearly 20% on the stock price today

    Well it has just created for me the outline of a 7 story, 46 episode, season of Dr Who based on the early Troughton years, given me a recipe for Fig wine made from dried figs and apple wine made from eating apples. Done rather well at it too.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    Will anyone on the board be buying their local WH Smiths? I might put a bid in for the one in Canterbury where I spent a lot of the mid to late Eighties in the record department after school.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 53,598

    DeepSeek under cyber attack after sending Nvidia down nearly 20% on the stock price today

    Is it a cyberattack or just millions of people all trying to use it at once?
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    eek said:

    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
    Conversely, if you go in to hospital for treatment as an in-patient and they wrap up whatever they were treating you for on a Weds/Thurs you will stay in the hospital until Monday at the earliest because no one will be there to fill your prescriptions or discharge you.

    So there is that.
    Not where I live, you will be out the door that day...

    Pharmacy is open every day of the week and where that isn't the case the prescription can be sorted at my local pharmacy that is open late 7 days a week.

    Live up north it's great living in an area where people can afford to own a house...
    Sounds ghastly.

    Plus I'm sure you're right about people being discharged on time before or over the weekend absodoodle-doo.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920
    Sorry, TSE, forgot.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 52,915
    DougSeal said:

    Will anyone on the board be buying their local WH Smiths? I might put a bid in for the one in Canterbury where I spent a lot of the mid to late Eighties in the record department after school.

    Surprised to see Ilford's WH Smith has rebranded its toy section to "Toys R Us", using the original logo!

    I thought the latter went bust in 2018!
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    edited January 27
    MattW said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    At my local hospital, weekend clinics (including Sundays) have been a thing for years.
    Big difference between that and the normal paraphernalia and activities of a hospital operating over the weekend. Which they simply don't.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,539
    If the AI bubble is bursting over in the US it does make listing in London much more attractive again because valuations for companies will naturally get closer as money from AI shifts into other industries that's less risky and London is a fairly low risk market.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    edited January 27
    DougSeal said:

    Will anyone on the board be buying their local WH Smiths? I might put a bid in for the one in Canterbury where I spent a lot of the mid to late Eighties in the record department after school.

    What do you go to Smiths for. Used to be magazines but the range there is shockingly narrow. Not stamps (what?), the odd newspaper okay. Some trashly airport or top 20 novels plus Jamie Oliver's latest. So I'm not entirely sure what it's for. Hence, I'm out.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 43,920
    TimS said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Jenrick. He's got soul but he's not a soldier.
    As shown by all the things that he has done.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 23,443
    Leon said:

    THIS should get the Oscar. Keir Starmer and Donald Trump share a flat.

    https://x.com/boldyboy1975/status/1883686356549034186?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    Who is the guy at the end meant to be?
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    edited January 27
    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
    Conversely, if you go in to hospital for treatment as an in-patient and they wrap up whatever they were treating you for on a Weds/Thurs you will stay in the hospital until Monday at the earliest because no one will be there to fill your prescriptions or discharge you.

    So there is that.
    Not where I live, you will be out the door that day...

    Pharmacy is open every day of the week and where that isn't the case the prescription can be sorted at my local pharmacy that is open late 7 days a week.

    Live up north it's great living in an area where people can afford to own a house...
    Sounds ghastly.

    Plus I'm sure you're right about people being discharged on time before or over the weekend absodoodle-doo.
    I know 4 people who have been in hospital over the past 2 years

    Discharge days were Saturday, Sunday, Sunday and Saturday,

    I remember the first Sunday one as they decided to discharge after the local pharmacy was closed so we had to wait until the hospital Pharmacist returned from getting her tea to get 2 days supply of some epilepsy drugs
  • eekeek Posts: 29,141
    TOPPING said:

    MattW said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    At my local hospital, weekend clinics (including Sundays) have been a thing for years.
    Big difference between that and the normal paraphernalia and activities of a hospital operating over the weekend. Which they simply don't.
    Again you keep saying that they don’t while I provided multiple pieces of evidence that around here there is little difference between weekend and weekday services
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,353
    eek said:

    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    TOPPING said:

    eek said:

    Carnyx said:

    DougSeal said:

    eek said:

    rcs1000 said:

    On topic, this from Robert Jenrick has really annoyed me.



    https://x.com/RobertJenrick/status/1882684767742951702

    Are you suggesting that not all the problems in the criminal justice system are due to the new Labour administration?
    Look, I give Starmer until this July.

    The solution is easy, as with most things, he needs to hire more (well remunerated) lawyers to fix the problems.
    That’s only part of the problem - he also needs to get the courts open every day. Currently a lot only work part time due to lack of judges (and a host of other issues).
    Goodness me, you are surely not suggesting that *professionals* should work weekends? Whatever next? Perhaps you might also suggest something as outrageous as hospital consultants should work weekends, or maybe something even more morally abominable that they shouldn't be able do private work on the sly when they are meant to be working for the NHS?

    Whatever would the world come to if highly paid (and super superannuated) public "servants" had to work at weekends. Preposterous!
    Funny you should say that. TMI perhaps but I needed my ears vacuumed out this weekend - I had the flu lurgy earlier this month and my ears had been backed up ever since. Thought it too good to be true but found an independent audiologist who did Sunday morning appointments to compete with Specsavers et al and...I'm not exactly sure where I was going with this anecdote so ignore it. She did a great job though.

    I keep being asked if I want to be an employment tribunal judge. They are that desperate.
    Last time I went to a hospital outpatient it was on a Saturday, which I didn't ask for (but was great as I was meeting friends later for lunch). And that was 2-3 years ago. And that was a real live specialist, not some imitation cheapo whatever they are called non-doctor folk.

    So the folk NF is berating for not working on Saturdays do work on Saturdays. Some of them, anyway.
    +1 - round here urgent referrals is a 7 day a week operation from 9am to roughly midnight. Mrs Eek was treated by them on a Friday evening, discharged at Saturday lunchtime and we visited them early for the following 2 weeks for dressings to be changed as the local district nurses were busy...
    Conversely, if you go in to hospital for treatment as an in-patient and they wrap up whatever they were treating you for on a Weds/Thurs you will stay in the hospital until Monday at the earliest because no one will be there to fill your prescriptions or discharge you.

    So there is that.
    Not where I live, you will be out the door that day...

    Pharmacy is open every day of the week and where that isn't the case the prescription can be sorted at my local pharmacy that is open late 7 days a week.

    Live up north it's great living in an area where people can afford to own a house...
    Sounds ghastly.

    Plus I'm sure you're right about people being discharged on time before or over the weekend absodoodle-doo.
    I know 4 people who have been in hospital over the past 2 years

    Discharge days were Saturday, Sunday, Sunday and Saturday,

    I remember the first Sunday one as they decided to discharge after the local pharmacy was closed so we had to wait until the hospital Pharmacist returned from getting her tea to get 2 days supply of some epilepsy drugs
    Yes but let's not forget that they were discharged into the grim wastelands of The North.

    I am very happy for your six-monthly experiences. I doubt that this is replicated regularly.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,404
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jan/27/hms-agincourt-no-10-accused-of-trying-not-to-upset-french-by-renaming-submarine

    Very odd story as Agincourt was a crap name for a modern warship in the first place. I almost suspect wokehunter-laid bait.

    The last but one was an infamous 6 x twin gun turreted dreadnought taken over at the shipyard in 1914 and the Turkish crew ejected (probably motivated the Turks, for whom it was being built, to go the other side ... well, I'd be pissed too). The last was a Battle class fleet destroyer converted to a radar picket. But it's never been a submarine name. Admittedly some of the other submarine names in the Astute class aren't traditional boat names. But by the same token there are plenty of more important names to use.
  • DougSealDougSeal Posts: 12,612
    TOPPING said:

    DougSeal said:

    Will anyone on the board be buying their local WH Smiths? I might put a bid in for the one in Canterbury where I spent a lot of the mid to late Eighties in the record department after school.

    What do you go to Smiths for. Used to be magazines but the range there is shockingly narrow. Not stamps (what?), the odd newspaper okay. Some trashly airport or top 20 novels plus Jamie Oliver's latest. So I'm not entirely sure what it's for. Hence, I'm out.
    About 15 years ago they had a tie up with a weird "game-changer" franchise for provincial solicitors called "Quality Solicitors". A manned open-plan concession for a divorce consultation. I might give that another go.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,404
    Taz said:

    DeepSeek under cyber attack after sending Nvidia down nearly 20% on the stock price today

    Well it has just created for me the outline of a 7 story, 46 episode, season of Dr Who based on the early Troughton years, given me a recipe for Fig wine made from dried figs and apple wine made from eating apples. Done rather well at it too.
    Doesn't the apple wine smell of urine, just a bit?
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 13,439
    kinabalu said:

    Yes the populist right are close to monopoly market leaders in lies and misinformation. The study is correct. We need to find a way to counter it. This will mean ignoring their disingenuous whining about "free speech".

    One of my difficulties with the conclusions in the article is that many terms like 'radical right' 'conservative' 'liberal' and so on have no fixed meaning. Unless you manage to clarify your terms with scalpel like accuracy you will end up with unrealistic conclusions.

    To take an obvious example, Reform may come under 'Radical Right' (don't know about here). but in many respects it is fairly old fashioned social democrat + nationalism + low net migration + unrealistic economics + appeal to the working class. There is nothing especially Radical or Right about any of this.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 3,177
    Off topic, but should be of interest to anyone concerned with health:
    "He [cardiologist David Sabgir] would treat patients with heart disease and counsel them to exercise. But at six-month follow-up appointments, he would find they hadn’t made any changes. A major barrier was that they had trouble getting started. Those who got going often stopped when motivation waned.

    One day in 2005, he decided he didn’t want to wait six months to find out that his recommendations weren’t being heeded. He tried an experiment: He invited a patient to join him and his family for a walk."
    source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/02/walk-with-doc-exercise-sabgir/

    Which led, eventually, to an organization, https://walkwithadoc.org/ .
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 29,373
    TOPPING said:

    DougSeal said:

    Will anyone on the board be buying their local WH Smiths? I might put a bid in for the one in Canterbury where I spent a lot of the mid to late Eighties in the record department after school.

    What do you go to Smiths for. Used to be magazines but the range there is shockingly narrow. Not stamps (what?), the odd newspaper okay. Some trashly airport or top 20 novels plus Jamie Oliver's latest. So I'm not entirely sure what it's for. Hence, I'm out.
    Nowadays, WHSmith is often where the Post Office is, so this is an important story for many towns.
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