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Let’s talk about your favourite Tube lines – politicalbetting.com

SystemSystem Posts: 12,223
edited December 17 in General
Let’s talk about your favourite Tube lines – politicalbetting.com

Which is the *most liked* Tube line, based on Londoners’ reviewsElizabeth: +63 net scoreOverground: +46DLR: +41Jubilee: +36Victoria: +26District: +24Metropolitan: +22Hammersmith & City: +20Circle: +18Piccadilly: +14Waterloo & City: +13Bakerloo: +3Central: -5… pic.twitter.com/G7ZwCio4dS

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  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,519
    I am partial to the Green line on the Tyne and Wear Metro.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 54,054
    edited December 6
    An excellent heading for those of us who live outside the grand metropolis to be sure. But the tube line to Lords (Jubilee line?) is surely the answer for most civilised folk.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,137
    Elizabeth line has air conditioning and glass barriers protecting from the tracks so is clearly best
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,153
    26% like the Northern line?

    Must have changed a lot since I had to make use of it every few weeks back in the day.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,974
    Labour look to be doing very badly on your Elizabeth line graph on Is it a subsample?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,025
    I nearly missed out the word ‘tube’ from the headline, that would have led to a slightly different discussion.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,020
    Oldest lines with crappiest rolling stock least liked? Who could have predicted that....
  • TazTaz Posts: 15,094
    As I used to work on the rolling stock for them, the Northern Line and the Jubilee Line.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,313
    The Lizzie isn't of course a Tube line, which is why several stations on it have suddenly moved into the Top 10 busiest railway stations.
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    The central line is absolutely the worst.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,017
    Victoria Line

    Driverless and fast
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,175
    Ot. Here in SE Spain my house is new and there's no fibre but I now have 5g mobile with Movistar and a router with sim card. Both have unlimited data and it cost 48€ a month. In the house I get typical speeds of 90-200mb. In town with the mobile typically 600-800mb. I begin to think this is the future. No cables to worry about and I can plug the router anywhere in the country! Am I making sense?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    edited December 6
    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years
  • glwglw Posts: 9,957
    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I nearly missed out the word ‘tube’ from the headline, that would have led to a slightly different discussion.

    "Don't tell him, Pike!"
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,688
    DavidL said:

    An excellent heading for those of us who live outside the grand metropolis to be sure. But the tube line to Lords (Jubilee line?) is surely the answer for most civilised folk.

    I used to go via the Jubilee line to work (Green Park) in preference to the Northern Line because it was so much more civilized, even if it did mean walking a bit further to West Hampstead or Finchley Road tube stations.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,688
    MaxPB said:

    The central line is absolutely the worst.

    And it's awfulness is thrown into sharp relief by just how good the competing Elizabeth Line is.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,688
    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,353
    Mornington Crescent.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,791
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    The speech was a bit churlish and dripping with entitlement, I thought. It's rather undercut the benefit accruing from his resignation.
  • Stark_DawningStark_Dawning Posts: 9,716
    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,020
    edited December 6
    glw said:

    TheScreamingEagles said:

    I nearly missed out the word ‘tube’ from the headline, that would have led to a slightly different discussion.

    "Don't tell him, Pike!"
    "I took her to see India, Fawlty - at the Oval."
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,046
    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    It’s being new.
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 11,590
    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    (a) It's not a tube line at all.
    (b) It's new and shiny and clean and has all mod cons.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,962
    felix said:

    Ot. Here in SE Spain my house is new and there's no fibre but I now have 5g mobile with Movistar and a router with sim card. Both have unlimited data and it cost 48€ a month. In the house I get typical speeds of 90-200mb. In town with the mobile typically 600-800mb. I begin to think this is the future. No cables to worry about and I can plug the router anywhere in the country! Am I making sense?

    We've been using that with Vodafone in rural SW Ireland for several years, but the routers they supply are rubbish, and we have a lot of issues with it dropping the connection, having to use mobile phone hotspots instead.

    Starlink would probably be a better option here.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,791
    DavidL said:

    kinabalu said:

    Broken sleazy Central Line on the slide!

    Yet another example of the collapse of the centre and the flight to the extremes.
    It needs to get on tiktok.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,486
    williamglenn said:

    Mornington Crescent.

    You've played this before, haven't you.
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,500
    kinabalu said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    The speech was a bit churlish and dripping with entitlement, I thought. It's rather undercut the benefit accruing from his resignation.
    A lot of the benefit had already evaporated when he announced that he would hang on in the job til January but only bother to perform "minimal duties". Most of the rest vanished when he decided that "minimal duties" wouldn't even cover any Christmas or New Year services.

    He's been acting like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum, and deserves to be shunned for his behaviour.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,246
    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 124,137
    kinabalu said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    The speech was a bit churlish and dripping with entitlement, I thought. It's rather undercut the benefit accruing from his resignation.
    Maybe though some interesting historical references. I doubt he cares too much, he is no longer going to be a Bishop or in the Lords (as Starmer almost certainly won't make him a life peer) and is a multi millionaire as he enters retirement.

    For all the criticism of him remember Smyth was a barrister not a C of E priest and after being alerted in 2013 the police did not take an investigation of him further even if Welby should have followed it up
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,489
    bondegezou said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    (a) It's not a tube line at all.
    (b) It's new and shiny and clean and has all mod cons.
    Quite right. It doesn't feel like a faecal bolus being pushed along the intestine by peristalsis, and for that matter it doesn't smell like it.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,313
    RobD said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    It’s being new.
    It's big and shiny and gets you from Essex straight to the centre, without having to change trains
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,017
    The winner of the best Tube station announcer has to go to the chap at Earls Court on District Line duties about a decade ago during rush hour

    "Please allow the sardines off the train before boarding"
  • StuartinromfordStuartinromford Posts: 17,485
    RobD said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    It’s being new.
    See also: Overground, DLR, Jubilee lines. All of them have had serious money spent on them in the last three decades.

    Once the Great British Public get over the "don't want to spend the money"/"don't want the disruption" bit, the nation is perfectly capable of building stuff and liking the results.
  • JohnLilburneJohnLilburne Posts: 6,313
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    It has to be my favourite. My Dad took me on when I was small, back then it was still run by BR and had old 1950s trains, it was like a fairground ride.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,489
    edited December 6
    Stuartinromford said:

    RobD said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    It’s being new.
    See also: Overground, DLR, Jubilee lines. All of them have had serious money spent on them in the last three decades.

    Once the Great British Public get over the "don't want to spend the money"/"don't want the disruption" bit, the nation is perfectly capable of building stuff and liking the results.
    Also: not that many voters live in any particular strip of London, compared to the poor sods who have to travel in and across it.

    So the whines of Camden locals should not have prevented HS2 from connecting to HS1. Thougch the former has been rather overtaken by events, admittedly.
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,486
    You know that tickle in the nose you get which makes you think you are going to sneeze, but it doesn't happen? Dougla Adams suggested this should be called an Amersham, after the station at the end of the Metropolitan line '...where the rails always rattle, but the train never comes.'


    On reflection I suspect TSE can think of other comparable situations of non-fulfilment, but I'll leave it there while I look for my coat.
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,285
    https://x.com/DougSpac/status/1864890927141036410

    Very interesting post here, because it's one of a couple floating about just recently to suggest that the New Jersey drones are flying in from the North-East Atlantic.

    Russia ? I don't know which directions the U.K. ones are reported as flying in from, but they seem to be mostly in or around bases on the East Anglian coast, so perhaps again from the East ?
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,457
    No tubes lines around these parts. Must be a London thing.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,175
    LostPassword said:

    felix said:

    Ot. Here in SE Spain my house is new and there's no fibre but I now have 5g mobile with Movistar and a router with sim card. Both have unlimited data and it cost 48€ a month. In the house I get typical speeds of 90-200mb. In town with the mobile typically 600-800mb. I begin to think this is the future. No cables to worry about and I can plug the router anywhere in the country! Am I making sense?

    We've been using that with Vodafone in rural SW Ireland for several years, but the routers they supply are rubbish, and we have a lot of issues with it dropping the connection, having to use mobile phone hotspots instead.

    Starlink would probably be a better option here.
    LostPassword said:

    felix said:

    Ot. Here in SE Spain my house is new and there's no fibre but I now have 5g mobile with Movistar and a router with sim card. Both have unlimited data and it cost 48€ a month. In the house I get typical speeds of 90-200mb. In town with the mobile typically 600-800mb. I begin to think this is the future. No cables to worry about and I can plug the router anywhere in the country! Am I making sense?

    We've been using that with Vodafone in rural SW Ireland for several years, but the routers they supply are rubbish, and we have a lot of issues with it dropping the connection, having to use mobile phone hotspots instead.

    Starlink would probably be a better option here.
    Right - I had Vodafone before Movistar - it is much slower here. I also bought a top 5G router from Amazon with zero problems.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,249
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    Can I tender for the catering for his speech to apologise for his speech apologising for his speech apologising for his speech apologising for his speech apologising for his speech apologising for his speech apologising....

    Actually can I just tender for any and all catering for Welby apology speeches?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,486
    edited December 6
    JohnLilburne said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    It has to be my favourite. My Dad took me on when I was small, back then it was still run by BR and had old 1950s trains, it was like a fairground ride.
    I remember that excitement too. Later in life I was indebted to it for bringing me swiftly under the river on my daily commute - fast, simple, reliable and still even a bit exciting.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,249
    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    New rolling stock with overground style space (lots compared to the tube), fast, new stations.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    HYUFD said:

    kinabalu said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    The speech was a bit churlish and dripping with entitlement, I thought. It's rather undercut the benefit accruing from his resignation.
    Maybe though some interesting historical references. I doubt he cares too much, he is no longer going to be a Bishop or in the Lords (as Starmer almost certainly won't make him a life peer) and is a multi millionaire as he enters retirement.

    For all the criticism of him remember Smyth was a barrister not a C of E priest and after being alerted in 2013 the police did not take an investigation of him further even if Welby should have followed it up
    Please do not try to excuse him
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,486
    Foxy said:

    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE

    I take it, Foxy, that you have never missed the pink and potted the brown?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,246
    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    No tubes lines around these parts. Must be a London thing.

    The paucity of tram or underground systems in British cities compared with our continental or other international peers is really striking.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,246
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Foxy said:

    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE

    I take it, Foxy, that you have never missed the pink and potted the brown?
    I have slipped, but never that far astray.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,153
    Foxy said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    No tubes lines around these parts. Must be a London thing.

    The paucity of tram or underground systems in British cities compared with our continental or other international peers is really striking.
    Well, trams involve building things and we can't seem to manage that anymore.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 51,249
    Foxy said:

    twistedfirestopper3 said:

    No tubes lines around these parts. Must be a London thing.

    The paucity of tram or underground systems in British cities compared with our continental or other international peers is really striking.
    The provincials are rustic enough to not want to pay for decade long planning farces, like their betters. How uncouth.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 120,025
    Foxy said:

    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE

    You know me so well.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,962
    edited December 6
    Following on from the discussion earlier about the 3GW of gas on the British grid, today is a good example of a related oddity on the Irish grid.
    You can see that actual wind generation tracks the forecast pretty closely, until it reaches about three-quarters of grid demand, at which point it looks like the excess of wind energy above three-quarters of grid demand is discarded.

    So it would look like the Irish grid cannot accommodate more than three-quarters of supply coming from wind turbines. Which seems a bit odd.

    https://www.smartgriddashboard.com/#all/wind
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,974
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
  • Peter_the_PunterPeter_the_Punter Posts: 14,486
    Foxy said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Foxy said:

    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE

    I take it, Foxy, that you have never missed the pink and potted the brown?
    I have slipped, but never that far astray.
    This is degenerating into a competition for the smuttiest poster on PB. I'd always assumed it was TSE but we are giving him a run for his money.

    Time to go. :(
  • FishingFishing Posts: 5,146
    edited December 6
    On topic -

    The subsurface lines (District, Met, H&C and Circle) and Crossrail are great because you can take a bike on them outside rush hours, and you don't have to travel for ages down escalators to get to your train (except on Crossrail, some of which is pretty deep), which chews up time. Also the air is much cleaner near the surface.

    The District is so slow though - Ealing Broadway to Mile End takes an hour, while on the Central the same journey takes less than 45 minutes, and that's without the usual 15 minute wait outside Earl's Court going east where the lines all come together. The Circle is chronically unreliable I find. And the H&C goes through some pretty dodgy areas.

    The Metropolitan Line and Crossrail can take you far out of town if you fancy a country stroll (as can the Central to Epping).

    So I'd say probably Crossrail and the Metropolitan are my favourites, though unfortunately I don't live on either of them.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,701
    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    I assume your being light hearted but there is a point about weather warnings. Every time you see people trapped in snow after they ignored the warnings you have to have a heart of stone not to laugh (or something).
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,489
    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Foxy said:

    Peter_the_Punter said:

    Foxy said:

    Baker Street? Where you change from pink to brown, or vice versa?

    Very good @TSE

    I take it, Foxy, that you have never missed the pink and potted the brown?
    I have slipped, but never that far astray.
    This is degenerating into a competition for the smuttiest poster on PB. I'd always assumed it was TSE but we are giving him a run for his money.

    Time to go. :(
    Definitely going down the tubes, you lot.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    To be honest it's not really a joking matter when the warnings are danger to life and keep away from the coast and the sea

    90 mph winds are seriously dangerous
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,500
    FPT, on the approx 3GW floor for CCGT-sourced electricity: I believe this is largely a product of the current system for maintaining black start / outage restoration capacity.

    Each of the Distribution Network Operators needs to maintain a minimum amount of self-starting plant capable of producing enough reactive power to re-energise their section of the grid. The current standard for that is based on using CCGT, but they're moving towards a "zero carbon" black start capability by 2026 with capacity to be provided from storage, "distributed generation" (ie. large wind turbines and solar farms), or interconnectors instead.

    The floor effect should go away at that point. More info here if you fancy digging into it: https://www.neso.energy/industry-information/balancing-services/electricity-system-restoration-standard
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 42,791
    HYUFD said:

    kinabalu said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Welby cannot get anything right can he

    He has just apologized for his House of Lords speech

    And on topic I haven't a favourite as I haven't been on the tube for over 40 years

    The speech was a bit churlish and dripping with entitlement, I thought. It's rather undercut the benefit accruing from his resignation.
    Maybe though some interesting historical references. I doubt he cares too much, he is no longer going to be a Bishop or in the Lords (as Starmer almost certainly won't make him a life peer) and is a multi millionaire as he enters retirement.

    For all the criticism of him remember Smyth was a barrister not a C of E priest and after being alerted in 2013 the police did not take an investigation of him further even if Welby should have followed it up
    But having gone the resignation route it would surely have been better to continue in that spirit rather than sully it. I was a bit surprised. Only heard extracts, though, not the full speech.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,489
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    To be honest it's not really a joking matter when the warnings are danger to life and keep away from the coast and the sea

    90 mph winds are seriously dangerous
    Slates from roofs and other debris ... keep well this weekend, BigG.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,505
    bondegezou said:

    Stark_Dawning said:

    So what is the Elizabeth Line doing that the others aren't doing and why not?

    (a) It's not a tube line at all.
    (b) It's new and shiny and clean and has all mod cons.
    All mod cons except reliability.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    edited December 6
    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    To be honest it's not really a joking matter when the warnings are danger to life and keep away from the coast and the sea

    90 mph winds are seriously dangerous
    Slates from roofs and other debris ... keep well this weekend, BigG.
    Thanks

    I was taking some cardboard to the recycling in the morning and have had a text they are closing all day due to the warning

    The Llandudno Christmas parade has been cancelled and town was extremely busy this morning no doubt many doing their weekend shopping before tomorrow

    I genuinely pray our son and his colleagues are not called on a shout, even though they would launch the AWB if lives were at risk
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,558
    When I first moved to London in 1991, I had to take the Central Line in to uni each day. It was the old siver-coloured stock, and felt like going back to the 1960s.

    Then, a couple of years later, they got the new stock, and all of a sudden it felt ultra-modern and colourful.

    That stock is now thirty years old, and last time I travelled on one, very tatty. Perception very much depends on the rolling stock. Incidentally, I still love travelling on the Central Line in the east, as I have so many happy memories of travelling on it.

    I also quite like the Northern Line, as it feels like it will never be modern.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,983
    The Elizabeth Line isn't a tube line.
  • Shecorns88Shecorns88 Posts: 292
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    To be honest it's not really a joking matter when the warnings are danger to life and keep away from the coast and the sea

    90 mph winds are seriously dangerous
    Slates from roofs and other debris ... keep well this weekend, BigG.
    Thanks

    I was taking some cardboard to the recycling in the morning and have had a text they are closing all day due to the warning

    The Llandudno Christmas parade has been cancelled and town was extremely busy this morning no doubt many doing their weekend shopping before tomorrow

    I genuinely pray our son and his colleagues are not called on a shout, even though they would launch the AWB if lives were at risk
    Wish everyone in North Wales all the best. Love holidays in Bedgellert.

    God forbid you get carnage and have to suffer Kay Burley and Beth Rigby there on Monday morning blaming Starmer for the bad weather and slow clear up.

    Stay safe
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,246
    I see Kemi is concentrating on the big issues.


  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,962
    Andy_JS said:

    The Elizabeth Line isn't a tube line.

    What is the distinction?
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    Shecorns88 said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Carnyx said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Mexicanpete said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    All football matches in Wales cancelled tomorrow due to the storm

    That's probably due to still having a woke administration in Cardiff Bay.

    Garden furniture to be moved into the sheds. Should I strap the bee hives down and move the cars to the other end of the drive away from the house?
    To be honest it's not really a joking matter when the warnings are danger to life and keep away from the coast and the sea

    90 mph winds are seriously dangerous
    Slates from roofs and other debris ... keep well this weekend, BigG.
    Thanks

    I was taking some cardboard to the recycling in the morning and have had a text they are closing all day due to the warning

    The Llandudno Christmas parade has been cancelled and town was extremely busy this morning no doubt many doing their weekend shopping before tomorrow

    I genuinely pray our son and his colleagues are not called on a shout, even though they would launch the AWB if lives were at risk
    Wish everyone in North Wales all the best. Love holidays in Bedgellert.

    God forbid you get carnage and have to suffer Kay Burley and Beth Rigby there on Monday morning blaming Starmer for the bad weather and slow clear up.

    Stay safe
    Thank you and on this I give Starmer a free pass
  • MaxPBMaxPB Posts: 39,064
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    Only useful for Surrey based bankers. I've taken it once to get back from Waterloo after an unexpected night in Surrey.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    Foxy said:

    I see Kemi is concentrating on the big issues.


    Isn't Kemi in the US meeting Trump's team ?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,558
    LostPassword said:

    Andy_JS said:

    The Elizabeth Line isn't a tube line.

    What is the distinction?
    Tunnel/stock diameter?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,246
    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Foxy said:

    I see Kemi is concentrating on the big issues.


    Isn't Kemi in the US meeting Trump's team ?
    She likes convicted politicians. (surely conviction politicians? -Ed)
  • OnlyLivingBoyOnlyLivingBoy Posts: 15,904
    The Victoria line gets a special mention for its reliability, the frequency of its service and its sensible, midcentury design. But for me the pinnacle of tube lines is the Bakerloo. Some of the early stations are exquisite - Piccadilly Circus is a masterpiece. Mainly though I love it for its 51 year old trains - the oldest still in regular use in the UK and the only ones outside of heritage lines older than me.
    We used to take the tube every summer in the late 70s and 80s when we connected between Kings Cross and Wateroo on the way to summer holidays with my grandparents in Farnham. All the other trains from my youth - Mk1s and Mk2s with a rail blue diesel at the front, rickety Metro Cammell DMUs, slam door Southern Region EMUs, even the HSTs, are long gone, but the faithful Bakerloo trains are still clunking through their tunnels, like it's 1973. The Bakerloo isn't a Tube line - it's a time machine!
    In fact the only thing that will make me love the Bakerloo more is when they extend it to New Cross Gate and Lewisham. Let's hope I'm alive to ride it up the Old Kent Road.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    Foxy said:

    Big_G_NorthWales said:

    Foxy said:

    I see Kemi is concentrating on the big issues.


    Isn't Kemi in the US meeting Trump's team ?
    She likes convicted politicians. (surely conviction politicians? -Ed)
    Didn't Starmer go one better and wine and dine with Trump?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,983
    "Sean Thomas
    London is getting worse
    Goodbye to the good-time capital
    6 December 2024, 5:00am"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/london-is-getting-worse/
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,505
    Political engagement - new MPs announce wedding plans
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c24n5j79v69o

    Jeevun Sandher & Louise Jones, both Labour.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,276
    The Liz Line and Overground are not tube lines. They are part of the big railway. Whatever BS TfL try to say to the contrary.

    Anyhow, Bakerloo is the best - proper nostalgic atmosphere on the ancient stock.

    It took me several decades to realise that Bakerloo is a portmanteau word made up from Baker Street and Waterloo.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,505
    Margaret Thatcher’s desk sells for 30 times its estimate
    Desk on which the former prime minister wrote a lot of her speeches while in opposition goes for £60,000 in auction of her personal items
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/06/margaret-thatcher-desk-sells-for-30-times-its-estimate/ (£££)

    Does anyone have a desk-shaped parcel under their tree?
  • AlsoLeiAlsoLei Posts: 1,500
    MaxPB said:

    The central line is absolutely the worst.

    I lived in Bethnal Green until 2020-ish, and using the central line to get to work made life an utter misery. At one point, fifteen trains went past before I was able to board - taking almost 35 minutes. I think I managed to get on the first train in rush hour just once in the four years that I lived there.

    The Elizabeth line & WFH have both taken some of the pressure off, but with so many trains out of service with motor issues and the slow progress of the refurb program, it's still going to be horrible until the end of 2025.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,983
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    It's the most mysterious line to travel on, because you're never quite sure when you're going under the river.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,505
    Teachers pocket £31k tax-free cash for house deposits
    Taxpayers foot £196m funding bill as trainees flee the profession – and the country
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/teachers-pocket-31k-tax-free-cash-for-house-deposits/ (£££)

    This is about the Get Into Teaching scheme bursaries.
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 28,505
    Miliband plots tech-led private nuclear power boom in Britain
    Energy Secretary opens door to privately-financed projects amid race to build mini reactors
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/12/06/miliband-plots-tech-led-private-nuclear-power-boom-britain/ (£££)
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,496
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    It’s very convenient for country folk wanting to get to the City for work
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,710
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Margaret Thatcher’s desk sells for 30 times its estimate
    Desk on which the former prime minister wrote a lot of her speeches while in opposition goes for £60,000 in auction of her personal items
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/06/margaret-thatcher-desk-sells-for-30-times-its-estimate/ (£££)

    Does anyone have a desk-shaped parcel under their tree?

    Boris ?
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,983
    The nickname of the Waterloo and City line is The Drain.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 55,062
    edited December 6
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    Wow that’s surprising, because I’m one of those who’ve taken the Drain literally hundreds of times. (But I grew up awfully close to the main line from Waterloo out to Amazingstoke).

    The only tube line with no intermediate stops.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 624
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Teachers pocket £31k tax-free cash for house deposits
    Taxpayers foot £196m funding bill as trainees flee the profession – and the country
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/teachers-pocket-31k-tax-free-cash-for-house-deposits/ (£££)

    This is about the Get Into Teaching scheme bursaries.

    Conservative government handed out taxpayers' cash with no due diligence to the benefit of fraudsters isn't news.
    Just surprising that it was only £196m unlike the £bns related to Covid.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 53,020
    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Miliband plots tech-led private nuclear power boom in Britain
    Energy Secretary opens door to privately-financed projects amid race to build mini reactors
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/12/06/miliband-plots-tech-led-private-nuclear-power-boom-britain/ (£££)

    That has fiasco written all over it.
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 624
    Andy_JS said:

    "Sean Thomas
    London is getting worse
    Goodbye to the good-time capital
    6 December 2024, 5:00am"

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/london-is-getting-worse/

    That's progress, the clubbing scene disappeared years ago with the development north of Kings X. Fabric's basements never had the same appeal as the railway arches with their outside astro-turfed chill out areas and dawn urban vistas. Now WFH, cost of living and abstinence has emptied the evening pubs.
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,434
    SandyRentool said:

    The Liz Line and Overground are not tube lines. They are part of the big railway. Whatever BS TfL try to say to the contrary.

    Indeed. Geoff Marshall insists that Liz/crossrail is not a Tube line

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hyfcFJ7SS4
  • WhisperingOracleWhisperingOracle Posts: 9,285
    This islamist militia moving across Syria seems to be bad news.

    According to the BBC, the genesis of HTS is linked to Al-Queda, Al-Nusra and Bagdadi.
  • david_herdsondavid_herdson Posts: 17,854
    My favourite tube lines are the ones in Moscow. I wouldn't use them now but they really are very nice. i quite like Glasgow's too.
  • eekeek Posts: 28,592
    Gallowgate said:

    I am partial to the Green line on the Tyne and Wear Metro.

    No one mentioned the clockwork orange yet in Glasgow?
  • DopermeanDopermean Posts: 624
    MarqueeMark said:

    DecrepiterJohnL said:

    Miliband plots tech-led private nuclear power boom in Britain
    Energy Secretary opens door to privately-financed projects amid race to build mini reactors
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2024/12/06/miliband-plots-tech-led-private-nuclear-power-boom-britain/ (£££)

    That has fiasco written all over it.
    Indeed, who's underwriting the decommissioning and contaminated waste?
    Expect them to be offloaded to some naive pension fund in 20 years only to discover there's a blackhole of liabilities.
  • BlancheLivermoreBlancheLivermore Posts: 6,017
    Looks like tomorrow will be a fun one to be outdoors all day

    Just glad I'm not further west
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,434
    rcs1000 said:

    Like most Londoners, I have never taken the Waterloo & City line. I must add it to my list.

    I am not a Londoner but because I travel so much by train I have frequently used the Tube and yes, I have used the Waterloo & City line. It's a bit of a disappointment.

    Jubilee line is my fave but it's aging as things seep thru the joins in the metal lining. I assume I would like the Elizabeth line better.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,558
    Andy_JS said:

    The nickname of the Waterloo and City line is The Drain.

    What I find amazing is how they get the tube trains into and out of it. Originally there was a hydraulic lift; this was in the way of the Eurostar terminal and was removed. Now they just crane them in and out of a big shaft nearby.
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