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  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114

    John Kemp
    @JKempEnergy

    GREAT BRITAIN’s electricity transmission system has relied on gas to supply around 45% of generation so far in November, as colder-than-normal temperatures have sent demand surging while slow wind speeds have trimmed wind farm output:

    https://x.com/JKempEnergy/status/1862456183807680766
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    Sinn Fein vote down by 9.6pp in Louth, one of their strongholds. Pattern of weak SF performances across the board. The opinion polls towards the end of the campaign may have given a false impression of SF recovering ground.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Lammy’s done another Lammy: “There are no journalists in Gaza.”

    https://x.com/macaesbruno/status/1862761453301731645
  • Shecorns88Shecorns88 Posts: 279
    Tres said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

    Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

    Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.


    https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

    People defending her were being very gullible.
    Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

    Read the full article.

    Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

    They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking
    The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.
    Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.
    True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.
    I'd want to know if they were IT specialists. And whether the metadata referred to the original photo or later file copying.

    Also - doesn't show *who* was doing the phoning. Coiulkd be a thief with a button on fast dial, for instance.

    More data needed ...
    There is an awful lot of creative Sky source related allegations being thrown about and bugger all actual coroboration.

    It's not as if Rigby is squeaky clean either is it?

    Haigh has made an error a decade ago. She's paid a heavy penalty now at a time when she was making a very positive impression.

    Meanwhile partner beaters, tax evaders, ID impersonators and Web hackers are being totally ignored.
    web hackers like the leader of the opposition?
    Indeed.

    This story like so many others in the past 12 months BREAK the golden rule.

    Great journalism reports the news.

    Crap journalism seeks to make the News.

    Journalists should never be the News
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 8,676
    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

    Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

    Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.


    https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

    People defending her were being very gullible.
    Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

    Read the full article.

    Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

    They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking
    The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.
    Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.
    True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.
    I'd want to know if they were IT specialists. And whether the metadata referred to the original photo or later file copying.

    Also - doesn't show *who* was doing the phoning. Coiulkd be a thief with a button on fast dial, for instance.

    More data needed ...
    Metadata (EXIF) includes not only the time of the file creation and modification, but also the date the photo was taken.
    So it should - but non-IT people confuse that with the file creation date on the file listing.

    A non-IT person wouldn’t call it metadata.
    Could very well, if they had heard the word and didn't really know. This was at least a decade ago. There were some pretty awful disasters in understanding IT/data evidence. Especially if not tested in court. Really, really basic stuff like police making charges and taking evidence to court without checking if the sysadmin had made changes, or whether the system clock was actually set at the right time.
    The mere fact she plead guilty to lying about it gives it some serious weight. The most rationale explanation is that the person investigating does actually know what they are talking about it.
    She claims she pleaded guilty on the advice of her solicitor, and now regrets it.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    Barnesian said:

    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    RobD said:

    Carnyx said:

    Carnyx said:

    Officers investigating Louise Haigh's "stolen" phone believed a photo she submitted of the handset had been taken after the alleged theft, Sky News has been told.

    Two sources said after looking at metadata attached to the photo - information that often details when photos were captured - officers believed it had been taken after the date at which Ms Haigh alleged the phone had been stolen.

    Sources close to Ms Haigh did not respond when approached about the allegation.


    https://news.sky.com/story/louise-haighs-photo-of-stolen-phone-taken-after-alleged-theft-13263796

    People defending her were being very gullible.
    Even Sky admit they cannot corroborate claims.

    Read the full article.

    Funny that Rigby and Coates could not show this zeal in cases of Shapps multiple ID, Hunt forgetting to declare properties to HMRC, Badenochs website hacking, Sunak dodgy business deals with wife, Boris, well there is a massive book there.

    They have got their pound of flesh, may be time to explore Kemis Web hacking
    The only claim in their report that doesn't have multiple sources is that the phone was used to phone her mum shortly after it was reported stolen.
    Multiplicity of [edit] multiple [immediate] sources means nothing if they are from the same [ultimate] original. E.g. Aviva employees all repeating the same rumour.
    True but the claim about the metadata of the photo she submitted is highly credible and specific and sounds more like it comes from a police source.
    I'd want to know if they were IT specialists. And whether the metadata referred to the original photo or later file copying.

    Also - doesn't show *who* was doing the phoning. Coiulkd be a thief with a button on fast dial, for instance.

    More data needed ...
    Metadata (EXIF) includes not only the time of the file creation and modification, but also the date the photo was taken.
    So it should - but non-IT people confuse that with the file creation date on the file listing.

    A non-IT person wouldn’t call it metadata.
    Could very well, if they had heard the word and didn't really know. This was at least a decade ago. There were some pretty awful disasters in understanding IT/data evidence. Especially if not tested in court. Really, really basic stuff like police making charges and taking evidence to court without checking if the sysadmin had made changes, or whether the system clock was actually set at the right time.
    The mere fact she plead guilty to lying about it gives it some serious weight. The most rationale explanation is that the person investigating does actually know what they are talking about it.
    She claims she pleaded guilty on the advice of her solicitor, and now regrets it.
    And solicitors are not experts on IT ... vide PO scandal passim, and that conprised much worse situations for the accuse.
  • Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,144
    edited November 30
    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    The one that was going to be “contagious but benign”?

    And then was going to kill millions of Brits and billions worldwide?

    But in the real world proved neither to be benign nor lead to the death of billions.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.

  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864
    Taz said:

    HYUFD said:

    Incidentally, anyone believing HYUFD's claims about Syrian forces should read about the Battle of Khasham in 2018, when Russian and Syrian forces went up against US forces in Syria.

    The result was not pretty. 40 US troops against 500 Syrian and Russians. The result? 65-200 Russians killed; no Americans injured.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham

    Completely irrelevant given ISIS weren't even involved in that incident.

    As I said it was Russian airstrikes in Syria which defeated ISIS not US strikes, US strikes on ISIS were focused on northern Iraq
    Not only Russia but the Kurds also played a part too in the vanquishing ISIS.

    ISIS are not defeated. They are still there and they still have some hostages.

    Celebrity Terrorist Shamima Begum is held in a camp in NE Syria in a Kurdish area.
    Given they held most of Syria and half of Iraq at one point they have effectively been beaten
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 123,864


    Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch
    @BabakTaghvaee1
    ·
    1m
    #BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports about failure of the Coup d'état against #Assad led by Brigadier Hassam Louka in #Damascus. #Syrian Republican Guard (SRG) has now arrested most of the participants of the coup.

    There we go and they will be facing firing squads by Friday if true
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894
    I'm chatting to a friend about English sayings and slang etc. There was a song discussed here a couple of weeks ago - the theme was essentially being poor and having to pawn belongings to fuel an alcohol habit. My mind has gone blank though (An upgrade on the usual, I know) - what is the song!?
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894

    Lammy’s done another Lammy: “There are no journalists in Gaza.”

    https://x.com/macaesbruno/status/1862761453301731645

    Imagine how he'd have been before he pulled his socks up. (I rate him most improved politician of the year for several years running)
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114
    One term government latest:


    John Rentoul
    @JohnRentoul
    ·
    1m

    Farage has higher approval (29%) than Starmer, Badenoch & Davey (all on 22%):
    @OpiniumResearch

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114
    Farage is 5.3 to be next PM.
  • Shecorns88Shecorns88 Posts: 279
    Assad or Isis... The Devil or The Devils.

    A vaccum of pure evil either way.

    Who is worse, the devil you know or the devil of countless devils.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 63,114

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Yep. Americans doing very little about it and in two months or so R 'vaccines don't work' FK takes charge.

    All is good in the best possible world.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    Omnium said:

    I'm chatting to a friend about English sayings and slang etc. There was a song discussed here a couple of weeks ago - the theme was essentially being poor and having to pawn belongings to fuel an alcohol habit. My mind has gone blank though (An upgrade on the usual, I know) - what is the song!?

    Pop goes the weasel.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894

    Omnium said:

    I'm chatting to a friend about English sayings and slang etc. There was a song discussed here a couple of weeks ago - the theme was essentially being poor and having to pawn belongings to fuel an alcohol habit. My mind has gone blank though (An upgrade on the usual, I know) - what is the song!?

    Pop goes the weasel.
    Bingo. Thanks very much LP
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895
    RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    edited November 30

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Avian Flu has a theoretical case lethality rate of something like 52%. That would be *fun*

    Covid was nearer 2% in the end
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213

    Assad or Isis... The Devil or The Devils.

    A vaccum of pure evil either way.

    Who is worse, the devil you know or the devil of countless devils.

    ISIS are not involved in the rebel advance.

    Some pretty unsavoury Islamists, but not ISIS. And the group currently leading the charge have not notably persecuted Christians or minorities in the areas they’ve controlled in the last few years.

    Doesn’t mean this isn’t a moment of danger, but Assad really is a Ceausescu figure. He needs to go.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    .

    RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Don't all politicians spin ?
    Irrespective of the circumstances.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,521
    The fact that there has been little resistance to Syrian rebels suggests that a lot of pieces have already been played.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,434
    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    When have I ever said "they would never happen"? Indeed, I hoped (and hope) they will happen, as it would be rather neat for me.

    But these geofenced robotaxis are rather limited compared to what you were claiming.

    Well over ten years have passed, and lorry drivers still exist. In fact, there's no indication they're going away.

    You were wrong. Own it.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    As predicted, limited to selected urban areas.
    But that's where most of the traffic is anyway.
  • TimSTimS Posts: 13,213
    HYUFD said:


    Babak Taghvaee - The Crisis Watch
    @BabakTaghvaee1
    ·
    1m
    #BREAKING: Unconfirmed reports about failure of the Coup d'état against #Assad led by Brigadier Hassam Louka in #Damascus. #Syrian Republican Guard (SRG) has now arrested most of the participants of the coup.

    There we go and they will be facing firing squads by Friday if true
    A palace coup sounds like a last minute propaganda effort by the regime. Nice idea - give the people hope, make them pause. Then “crush the coup” and look strong. Classic Russian playbook.

    I don’t think anyone in Syria outside the Alawite community wants government by some new rebel offshoot of the ruling family. It’s the Syrian equivalent of Tories in 2023 sending letters to the 1922 committee.
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Brace brace.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,934

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.

    Then how fortunate will the world be to have Donald Trump in control?

    *sobs uncontrollably*
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857

    Farage is 5.3 to be next PM.

    That is bonkersly short for two reasons. The chances in themselves of Farage being PM ever are slight, and if Reform came up on the inside track to look like truly real contenders, someone else would be next (Labour) PM before the 2029 election. 20/1 maybe.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807

    If Trump is really as chummy with Putin as everyone believes him to be, perhaps this is why the rebels and their backers have moved now trying to make something happen before he pulls the US out and calls a halt to the whole debacle.

    The implication of your hypothesis is that the rebels and their backers could have moved any time in the past four years but chose not to.
    The backers are the important factor imo. Potentially Turkey wants to change the situation on the ground significantly before Trump comes in.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,471

    RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Worse for Rolf.
  • RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Thank you for your updates on this election
  • TazTaz Posts: 14,972
    edited November 30
    After just 5 months the hapless PM is going to relaunch the govt on Thursday according to reports.

    Continuity Sunak.

    https://x.com/afneil/status/1862951111222509584?s=61
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,112
    It looks like 55% have no view on Badenoch, so she has yet to make an impact on most.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Avian Flu has a theoretical case lethality rate of something like 52%. That would be *fun*

    Covid was nearer 2% in the end
    "I would like to have seen Montana."
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
    Selebian said:

    To answer Moonrabbit's question, we cannot really know what a victorious Sunak Government would have done. What a good Conservative government would do would be to cut Government spending, particularly in terms of CS personnel - back to 2014 levels initially. There was no shortage of Government in 2014. Then move the economy forward with targeted tax cuts on business and innovation, planning reform, Labour market reform. And get cheap, secure domestically sourced energy as the overriding priority. Cheapest energy in Europe as an initial goal.

    I'm not quite sure what counts under CS numbers, but there must presumably be some Brexit impact, at least in how people are counted. Some people brought back onshore who were on EU books, some duplication of things here, even if it's just rubber stamping EU approvals. I don't know how much it explains, but the money we used to send to the EU - we'll, some of it at least was our share of contributions to things that needed to be done and that we've now had to duplicate ourselves.

    TLDR: Some headcount may be due to Brexit. It may also be that we were previously paying similar numbers of people, just indirectly via EU.
    What things that needed to be done?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987
    Taz said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Brace brace.
    The Necklace will protect us. Blessed be The Necklace.



    ** And the remote farmhouse in Wales.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268
    Trudeau is really sucking up to Trump now:

    https://x.com/justintrudeau/status/1862952145550475414
  • Foxy said:

    It looks like 55% have no view on Badenoch, so she has yet to make an impact on most.
    54% have a view on Starmer and they do not like him !!!
  • RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Even shorter than our Lady Jane Truss?
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 72,172
    I see Zelenskyy, having been refused by Rogan (so much for "I'll talk to anyone"), has agreed to a 3hr stint on Lex Fridman's podcast.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987
    Omnium said:

    I'm chatting to a friend about English sayings and slang etc. There was a song discussed here a couple of weeks ago - the theme was essentially being poor and having to pawn belongings to fuel an alcohol habit. My mind has gone blank though (An upgrade on the usual, I know) - what is the song!?

    Probably not this (though I've posted it before). But it's a cracking (if melancholy) song on the theme :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEENhOVDMrs

    "Aidan Moffat - It's a Lonely Life to Lead"
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709
    dixiedean said:

    RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Worse for Rolf.
    Since he died last year, I don't think 2024 affected him much either way.
  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,198

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.

    Then how fortunate will the world be to have Donald Trump in control?

    *sobs uncontrollably*
    Well on the plus side, his approach to things like tariffs may reduce the spread…
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Avian Flu has a theoretical case lethality rate of something like 52%. That would be *fun*

    Covid was nearer 2% in the end
    It is arguable that the Black death of mid thirteen hundreds was the last single absolutely change making event in our history - that compared with this the reformation, Civil wars, WWI and !! etc are local and incremental difficulties.

    If correct it means that the world introduced to us in Chaucer's Prologue and ours is a single, explicable and rational step by step continuity. One of the first steps in the argument is that the Prologue without warning introduces us to a world which needs no complicated conceptual translation to understand from our world.

    A 52% lethality pandemic would be similar.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 49,112

    Foxy said:

    It looks like 55% have no view on Badenoch, so she has yet to make an impact on most.
    54% have a view on Starmer and they do not like him !!!
    Starmer is still 5% ahead as best PM.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,376
    Taz said:

    After just 5 months the hapless PM is going to relaunch the govt on Thursday according to reports.

    Continuity Sunak.

    https://x.com/afneil/status/1862951111222509584?s=61

    They're already at "relaunch" stage? Pitiful! 😂
  • Foxy said:

    Foxy said:

    It looks like 55% have no view on Badenoch, so she has yet to make an impact on most.
    54% have a view on Starmer and they do not like him !!!
    Starmer is still 5% ahead as best PM.
    He is in Office and 5% ahead of a new young leader is hardly something to be proud of
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    edited November 30
    I see Liz Truss has a new job.

    Energy provider Electricity North West (ENW) has said its engineers were “left speechless” after discovering that a telecoms operator in the Lancashire (England) town of Burnley had erected a steel mast “just one metre away” from 132,000-volt overhead electricity lines. “One wrong move could have resulted in a death,” said ENW.

    The “potentially fatal” situation in Burnley is said to have been discovered on Wednesday by ENW’s “tree cutting teams“, who were carrying out maintenance in the area. The team reported the situation immediately, and engineers attended the Kiddrow Lane site and quickly made the decision to switch out and earth the circuit for safety reasons. No customers were without power as a result.

    You’d think that even the most basic understanding of science and electricity, the sort children tend to learn at the youngest of ages and that we all carry through our lives, would have avoided such a Darwin Awards level error of safety competence. But clearly, in this case, something has gone shockingly wrong, and we can all thank our lucky sparks stars that no lives were lost. This is about as dangerous as you can get.


    https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/potentially-fatal-uk-broadband-firm-erects-steel-mast-next-to-high-voltage-cables.html
  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    When have I ever said "they would never happen"? Indeed, I hoped (and hope) they will happen, as it would be rather neat for me.

    But these geofenced robotaxis are rather limited compared to what you were claiming.

    Well over ten years have passed, and lorry drivers still exist. In fact, there's no indication they're going away.

    You were wrong. Own it.
    I wasn't wrong, but nor were you. We were both half right. Self driving came later than I predicted and earlier than you did.

    However, where I was entirely right is in machine translation, which -IIRC - you said was basically impossible for machines to truly master. lol

    We now have translators which are literal Babel fish except arguably better
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,895

    RTE political correspondent has said that, "There is a loose understanding that to have a rotating Taoiseach there should be a gap of no more than six seats between the parties."

    It looks like there's a very good chance of the FF/FG gap being larger than that, and so we should expect Micheal Martin to become Taoiseach, and Simon Harris becomes the shortest serving Taoiseach in the history of the state. Not a good year for Harris's.

    Even shorter than our Lady Jane Truss?
    Simon Harris is at about 4.8 Trusses, and coalition negotiations may well see him over 5.
  • Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Crucially, the Labour-controlled council has asked the Department for Transport (DfT) for permission to erect signs at the city boundary, rather than spend millions of pounds on endless signs showing the 20mph limit on every single street.

    In many cities, the 20mph limit is only in place where there is a sign. On some roads in London, there can be several signs in the space of just 100 metres, which is expensive for the council and an eyesore for residents.

    Since 1935, Britain has had a 30mph speed limit in built-up areas, imposed in response to a death toll of 7,343 in the previous year on the roads, at a time when there was only a tenth as much traffic as today. By comparison, there were 1,645 road deaths last year, according to the DfT.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/birmingham-wants-to-be-a-20mph-city-is-your-town-next-kn7mtvzvg
  • YokesYokes Posts: 1,345
    Syria

    I mentioned the other night one of two significant things was how quickly Assad went off to Moscow for consultations.

    He is reportedly still there.
    Many of his family and coterie are in the Gulf.

    Not a good sign.
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,894
    ohnotnow said:

    Omnium said:

    I'm chatting to a friend about English sayings and slang etc. There was a song discussed here a couple of weeks ago - the theme was essentially being poor and having to pawn belongings to fuel an alcohol habit. My mind has gone blank though (An upgrade on the usual, I know) - what is the song!?

    Probably not this (though I've posted it before). But it's a cracking (if melancholy) song on the theme :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEENhOVDMrs

    "Aidan Moffat - It's a Lonely Life to Lead"
    Thanks, not that (pop goes the weasel was what I was after), but your link is rather great (Too short though).
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,645

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Off topic. Have the hidden Reptile Alien Overlords been wiped out by the common cold yet?
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 8,942

    I see Liz Truss has a new job.

    Energy provider Electricity North West (ENW) has said its engineers were “left speechless” after discovering that a telecoms operator in the Lancashire (England) town of Burnley had erected a steel mast “just one metre away” from 132,000-volt overhead electricity lines. “One wrong move could have resulted in a death,” said ENW.

    The “potentially fatal” situation in Burnley is said to have been discovered on Wednesday by ENW’s “tree cutting teams“, who were carrying out maintenance in the area. The team reported the situation immediately, and engineers attended the Kiddrow Lane site and quickly made the decision to switch out and earth the circuit for safety reasons. No customers were without power as a result.

    You’d think that even the most basic understanding of science and electricity, the sort children tend to learn at the youngest of ages and that we all carry through our lives, would have avoided such a Darwin Awards level error of safety competence. But clearly, in this case, something has gone shockingly wrong, and we can all thank our lucky sparks stars that no lives were lost. This is about as dangerous as you can get.


    https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/potentially-fatal-uk-broadband-firm-erects-steel-mast-next-to-high-voltage-cables.html

    This sort of 'elf n safety nonsense is what is holding this country back. 132,000 volts is just a wee zap.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 50,144
    algarkirk said:

    Farage is 5.3 to be next PM.

    That is bonkersly short for two reasons. The chances in themselves of Farage being PM ever are slight, and if Reform came up on the inside track to look like truly real contenders, someone else would be next (Labour) PM before the 2029 election. 20/1 maybe.
    A chance to put every single politician other than Farage into the green, isn’t to be sniffed at.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,434
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    When have I ever said "they would never happen"? Indeed, I hoped (and hope) they will happen, as it would be rather neat for me.

    But these geofenced robotaxis are rather limited compared to what you were claiming.

    Well over ten years have passed, and lorry drivers still exist. In fact, there's no indication they're going away.

    You were wrong. Own it.
    I wasn't wrong, but nor were you. We were both half right. Self driving came later than I predicted and earlier than you did.

    However, where I was entirely right is in machine translation, which -IIRC - you said was basically impossible for machines to truly master. lol

    We now have translators which are literal Babel fish except arguably better
    IIRC, you stated that in ten years, there would be no lorry drivers. You compounded that by saying that it was pointless training to be a lorry driver, as the jobs would go. Those 'predictions' were well over ten years ago.

    And again, show where I said translation was 'basically impossible for machines to truly master'. Go on. Because I'm pretty sure I did not.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Crucially, the Labour-controlled council has asked the Department for Transport (DfT) for permission to erect signs at the city boundary, rather than spend millions of pounds on endless signs showing the 20mph limit on every single street.

    In many cities, the 20mph limit is only in place where there is a sign. On some roads in London, there can be several signs in the space of just 100 metres, which is expensive for the council and an eyesore for residents.

    Since 1935, Britain has had a 30mph speed limit in built-up areas, imposed in response to a death toll of 7,343 in the previous year on the roads, at a time when there was only a tenth as much traffic as today. By comparison, there were 1,645 road deaths last year, according to the DfT.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/birmingham-wants-to-be-a-20mph-city-is-your-town-next-kn7mtvzvg

    Ridiculous.

    How on earth are they going to speed traffic up to 20mph?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268

    Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Badenoch has a gravitas problem which will make it hard for her to hold the line against Reform. It's as if it doesn't matter very much what she thinks about anything.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857
    GIN1138 said:

    Taz said:

    After just 5 months the hapless PM is going to relaunch the govt on Thursday according to reports.

    Continuity Sunak.

    https://x.com/afneil/status/1862951111222509584?s=61

    They're already at "relaunch" stage? Pitiful! 😂
    "Relaunch" is a concept belonging to the same class as "Replacement bus service" only worse.

    Is it possible to point to anything which has ever done this while using the term "relaunch", successfully?

  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
    It's literally in the Twitter thread you quoted.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,330
    edited November 30

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Off topic. Have the hidden Reptile Alien Overlords been wiped out by the common cold yet?
    That was the *Martians*. With tentacles. Vide H.G. Wells.
  • Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Off topic. Have the hidden Reptile Alien Overlords been wiped out by the common cold yet?
    We don't know. They're hidden.
  • Eabhal said:

    I see Liz Truss has a new job.

    Energy provider Electricity North West (ENW) has said its engineers were “left speechless” after discovering that a telecoms operator in the Lancashire (England) town of Burnley had erected a steel mast “just one metre away” from 132,000-volt overhead electricity lines. “One wrong move could have resulted in a death,” said ENW.

    The “potentially fatal” situation in Burnley is said to have been discovered on Wednesday by ENW’s “tree cutting teams“, who were carrying out maintenance in the area. The team reported the situation immediately, and engineers attended the Kiddrow Lane site and quickly made the decision to switch out and earth the circuit for safety reasons. No customers were without power as a result.

    You’d think that even the most basic understanding of science and electricity, the sort children tend to learn at the youngest of ages and that we all carry through our lives, would have avoided such a Darwin Awards level error of safety competence. But clearly, in this case, something has gone shockingly wrong, and we can all thank our lucky sparks stars that no lives were lost. This is about as dangerous as you can get.


    https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/potentially-fatal-uk-broadband-firm-erects-steel-mast-next-to-high-voltage-cables.html

    This sort of 'elf n safety nonsense is what is holding this country back. 132,000 volts is just a wee zap.
    As a Northerner growing up as a kid in the 1980s before assembly every morning we were zapped with 264,000 volts.

    Kids these days...
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 52,268

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    Eventually all councils will fund themselves from speeding fines.
  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
    It's literally in the Twitter thread you quoted.
    I didn't notice it but it is hardly something for Starmer to be proud of v a new young conservative leader yet to make her mark
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496
    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    Eventually all councils will fund themselves from speeding fines.
    Birmingham would need to cut it to 5mph or build a fuckton of new roads for that to happen.
  • Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,434
    In this-year-is-getting-really-weird news:

    A Turkish F4 Phantom intercepts an Iranian F-14.

    https://x.com/Mrgunsngear/status/1862885505207079327
  • Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Off topic. Have the hidden Reptile Alien Overlords been wiped out by the common cold yet?
    "They Live"
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,987

    Eabhal said:

    I see Liz Truss has a new job.

    Energy provider Electricity North West (ENW) has said its engineers were “left speechless” after discovering that a telecoms operator in the Lancashire (England) town of Burnley had erected a steel mast “just one metre away” from 132,000-volt overhead electricity lines. “One wrong move could have resulted in a death,” said ENW.

    The “potentially fatal” situation in Burnley is said to have been discovered on Wednesday by ENW’s “tree cutting teams“, who were carrying out maintenance in the area. The team reported the situation immediately, and engineers attended the Kiddrow Lane site and quickly made the decision to switch out and earth the circuit for safety reasons. No customers were without power as a result.

    You’d think that even the most basic understanding of science and electricity, the sort children tend to learn at the youngest of ages and that we all carry through our lives, would have avoided such a Darwin Awards level error of safety competence. But clearly, in this case, something has gone shockingly wrong, and we can all thank our lucky sparks stars that no lives were lost. This is about as dangerous as you can get.


    https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2024/11/potentially-fatal-uk-broadband-firm-erects-steel-mast-next-to-high-voltage-cables.html

    This sort of 'elf n safety nonsense is what is holding this country back. 132,000 volts is just a wee zap.
    As a Northerner growing up as a kid in the 1980s before assembly every morning we were zapped with 264,000 volts.

    Kids these days...
    You 80s public school kids. In our day we didn't even have these newfangled metric 'volts'. I didn't vote for Brexit to have to keep using these EUolts to torture children.

    ... :: continues on Telegraph page 13, 14, 15, 17, 23 .... ::
  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
    It's literally in the Twitter thread you quoted.
    I didn't notice it but it is hardly something for Starmer to be proud of v a new young conservative leader yet to make her mark
    But at this stage, it really really really doesn't matter.

    What would the Blessed Margaret have said to MPs worrying about poll ratings when no election was in sight? (Because, whatever the petition pushers would have you think, there isn't one.)

    She would have sent them away with a flea in their ear.
  • Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Badenoch has a gravitas problem which will make it hard for her to hold the line against Reform. It's as if it doesn't matter very much what she thinks about anything.
    I have heard from a few focus groups that the most common adjective to be used about Badenoch is lightweight/insubstantial.

    Oddly, there's a bit of warmth towards her for being the first black woman leader of a major GB party.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    When have I ever said "they would never happen"? Indeed, I hoped (and hope) they will happen, as it would be rather neat for me.

    But these geofenced robotaxis are rather limited compared to what you were claiming.

    Well over ten years have passed, and lorry drivers still exist. In fact, there's no indication they're going away.

    You were wrong. Own it.
    I wasn't wrong, but nor were you. We were both half right. Self driving came later than I predicted and earlier than you did.

    However, where I was entirely right is in machine translation, which -IIRC - you said was basically impossible for machines to truly master. lol

    We now have translators which are literal Babel fish except arguably better
    IIRC, you stated that in ten years, there would be no lorry drivers. You compounded that by saying that it was pointless training to be a lorry driver, as the jobs would go. Those 'predictions' were well over ten years ago.

    And again, show where I said translation was 'basically impossible for machines to truly master'. Go on. Because I'm pretty sure I did not.
    Yeah you did you stupid twat

    Welsh: "Ie, wnest ti, ti'n dwp twp."
    Armenian: "Այո, արեցիր, հիմար ապուշ." (Ayo, arecir, himar apush.)
    Georgian: "ჰო, გააკეთე, შენ სულელი დებილი." (Ho, gaakete, shen suleli debili.)
    Mandarin: "是的,你做了,你这个蠢蛋。" (Shì de, nǐ zuò le, nǐ zhège chǔn dàn.)
    Hebrew: "כן, עשית את זה, טיפש מטומטם." (Ken, asita et ze, tipesh metumtam.)
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,709

    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
    Although if he's lost Leon, that's a third of his votes gone on the fly, no?
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    biggles said:

    Leon said:

    What if they really DO have a coup and no one believes it happened?

    We can’t know until tomorrow. But the thing to watch is the reactions of countries with embassies/consulates in place and/or aid workers out there in numbers.

    Can’t remember off hand if we or the rest of the west still have diplomatic relations.
    If there really is a coup taking place by now we'd be seeing a flood of images and videos from locals in Damascus. We are not

    My guess is there has perhaps been some sporadic gunfire from rebels in the city (because rebels clearly ARE on the march elsewhere in Syria) and they're trying to spook and roil the regime while Assad is away, by making it out to be much bigger

    Assad does look imperilled, however
    Weren't there reports he is in Moscow currently?
    Apparently landed in Damascus several hours ago...
    Ah ok thanks, I'm just catching up. Have rather selfishly been focused on living my life today.
    Call yourself a PBer? There is no such thing as "life"
    I dunno. We once had a poster called @SeanT who had about twelve of them.
    I think he retired, having made his millions as an early investor in What3Words.
    I heard he retired because he correctly predicted the pandemic about a month before everyone else. But the past is shrouded in myth
    No, that was someone called eadric, as I recall
    Just for the record, so that I can claim this one over @Leon - the US outbreak of avian flu now spreading widely to milking cows and some pigs is gonna be a bastard human pandemic in a year or so's time.
    Yes. That virus is busy mutating and edging closer to fully making the transition to a human flu.
    Off topic. Have the hidden Reptile Alien Overlords been wiped out by the common cold yet?
    The pile of used tissues next to me says 'no'.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,744

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    Eventually all councils will fund themselves from speeding fines.
    And then go bankrupt from self-driving cars perfectly obeying the speed limits.
  • Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Just the usual displacement activity. The main cause behind road deaths is crap driving, but no government has the balls to actually do something about that.

  • ydoethur said:

    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
    Although if he's lost Leon, that's a third of his votes gone on the fly, no?
    True.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 56,496

    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
    I don't know how I can cope with this put-down from a self-proclaimed member of the privately-schooled, Oxbridge-educated British elite, who lives with his Mum in Sheffield
  • Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Just the usual displacement activity. The main cause behind road deaths is crap driving, but no government has the balls to actually do something about that.

    Nah, it is cars getting heavier (that's even before mahoosive EV batteries) and the shape of vehicles changing.


  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 43,434
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    Speaking of predictions, remember how self-drive cars would never happen? @JosiasJessop?

    "Uber and Lyft drivers say Waymo's robotaxis are hurting their earnings in Phoenix and LA"

    https://archive.is/2024.11.29-132456/https://www.businessinsider.com/waymo-robotaxis-competing-uber-lyft-drivers-phoenix-los-angeles-price-2024-11#selection-1465.0-1465.88

    It's taken longer than many (including me) predicted, but the prediction IS now coming true

    When have I ever said "they would never happen"? Indeed, I hoped (and hope) they will happen, as it would be rather neat for me.

    But these geofenced robotaxis are rather limited compared to what you were claiming.

    Well over ten years have passed, and lorry drivers still exist. In fact, there's no indication they're going away.

    You were wrong. Own it.
    I wasn't wrong, but nor were you. We were both half right. Self driving came later than I predicted and earlier than you did.

    However, where I was entirely right is in machine translation, which -IIRC - you said was basically impossible for machines to truly master. lol

    We now have translators which are literal Babel fish except arguably better
    IIRC, you stated that in ten years, there would be no lorry drivers. You compounded that by saying that it was pointless training to be a lorry driver, as the jobs would go. Those 'predictions' were well over ten years ago.

    And again, show where I said translation was 'basically impossible for machines to truly master'. Go on. Because I'm pretty sure I did not.
    Yeah you did you stupid twat

    Welsh: "Ie, wnest ti, ti'n dwp twp."
    Armenian: "Այո, արեցիր, հիմար ապուշ." (Ayo, arecir, himar apush.)
    Georgian: "ჰო, გააკეთე, შენ სულელი დებილი." (Ho, gaakete, shen suleli debili.)
    Mandarin: "是的,你做了,你这个蠢蛋。" (Shì de, nǐ zuò le, nǐ zhège chǔn dàn.)
    Hebrew: "כן, עשית את זה, טיפש מטומטם." (Ken, asita et ze, tipesh metumtam.)
    I'm pretty sure I did not say that. I am very bearish on AI and AI-related topics, but not that bearish.

    I'm unsure quite what the rest of the post is meant to prove. do you know (say) Armenian or Georgian well enough to be sure that the translations have got the nuances of your brilliant prose correct? ;)
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,609
    edited November 30

    Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
    It's literally in the Twitter thread you quoted.
    I didn't notice it but it is hardly something for Starmer to be proud of v a new young conservative leader yet to make her mark
    But at this stage, it really really really doesn't matter.

    What would the Blessed Margaret have said to MPs worrying about poll ratings when no election was in sight? (Because, whatever the petition pushers would have you think, there isn't one.)

    She would have sent them away with a flea in their ear.
    Public opinion does matter and Starmer with Reeves are unpopular with a budget that has built into the economy higher interest rates for longer and no significant growth on the horizon

    Furthermore there are weekly locals seeing Labour lose seats and in 18 months, both Scotland and Wales have their elections and Starmer does not want to perform badly in them
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,956
    edited November 30
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
    I don't know how I can cope with this put-down from a self-proclaimed member of the privately-schooled, Oxbridge-educated British elite, who lives with his Mum in Sheffield
    I have never described myself as elite, other people call me part of the elite.

    But just for you, I've change your username to Leon_voted_for_Starmer, so every time you rant about Starmer....
  • carnforthcarnforth Posts: 4,835

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Crucially, the Labour-controlled council has asked the Department for Transport (DfT) for permission to erect signs at the city boundary, rather than spend millions of pounds on endless signs showing the 20mph limit on every single street.

    In many cities, the 20mph limit is only in place where there is a sign. On some roads in London, there can be several signs in the space of just 100 metres, which is expensive for the council and an eyesore for residents.

    Since 1935, Britain has had a 30mph speed limit in built-up areas, imposed in response to a death toll of 7,343 in the previous year on the roads, at a time when there was only a tenth as much traffic as today. By comparison, there were 1,645 road deaths last year, according to the DfT.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/birmingham-wants-to-be-a-20mph-city-is-your-town-next-kn7mtvzvg

    The assumption that drivers in Birmingham will follow the limits is bold.
  • Leon said:

    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He can, in July he got low IQ voters to vote for him, their low IQs will ensure he wins again.
    I don't know how I can cope with this put-down from a self-proclaimed member of the privately-schooled, Oxbridge-educated British elite, who lives with his Mum in Sheffield
    I have never described myself as elite, other people call me part of the elite.

    But just for you, I've changed your username, so every time you rant about Starmer....
    "Some people call you the elite. I call you my base." - G. W. Bush.
  • carnforth said:

    Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Crucially, the Labour-controlled council has asked the Department for Transport (DfT) for permission to erect signs at the city boundary, rather than spend millions of pounds on endless signs showing the 20mph limit on every single street.

    In many cities, the 20mph limit is only in place where there is a sign. On some roads in London, there can be several signs in the space of just 100 metres, which is expensive for the council and an eyesore for residents.

    Since 1935, Britain has had a 30mph speed limit in built-up areas, imposed in response to a death toll of 7,343 in the previous year on the roads, at a time when there was only a tenth as much traffic as today. By comparison, there were 1,645 road deaths last year, according to the DfT.


    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/transport/article/birmingham-wants-to-be-a-20mph-city-is-your-town-next-kn7mtvzvg

    The assumption that drivers in Birmingham will follow the limits is bold.
    Especially the ones fleeing Birmingham.
  • Trigger warning.

    The speed limit in Birmingham could be cut to 20mph under plans which would make it easier for any local authority across the country to impose lower limits in built-up areas.

    A proposal to turn the whole city, with a population of 1.1 million, into a 20mph zone will be considered by Birmingham city council on Tuesday.

    Just the usual displacement activity. The main cause behind road deaths is crap driving, but no government has the balls to actually do something about that.

    Sure, because one is objective and requires simple proof of a fact, the other is subjective and actually requires a case to be proven.

    It is nice to be back on PB. A long time...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 34,805
    edited November 30

    Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Not really

    It was not on my feed but 5% lead is hardly something to shout about
    It's literally in the Twitter thread you quoted.
    I didn't notice it but it is hardly something for Starmer to be proud of v a new young conservative leader yet to make her mark
    But at this stage, it really really really doesn't matter.

    What would the Blessed Margaret have said to MPs worrying about poll ratings when no election was in sight? (Because, whatever the petition pushers would have you think, there isn't one.)

    She would have sent them away with a flea in their ear.
    The Conservatives were behind Labour in every poll for 21 months following the 1979 GE.
  • algarkirkalgarkirk Posts: 12,857
    Leon said:

    How the hell does Starmer turn this around?

    He's a greedy, pompous, lying, charmless, grifting, humourless, entitled, dismal, Woketastic anti-charisma machine, with weird little eyes and a stupid pursed mouth of disapproval, and he can't think of a Christmas movie he likes. He's Loathsome

    I don't think he can turn this around, TBH
    He's OK; but he is no good at hopey changey; maybe no-one can turn it around for now. If anyone has decent and doable ideas they are keeping quiet. There is only one other party of government and IIRC they weren't very effective in various ways right up to about July this year.

    What he should do (perhaps now is too late) is basically from 5th July: "Your glass was half empty and getting emptier; it is now half full and getting fuller. And this is what 'full' looks like, and this is how we are going to get there". And he should still, every day, be explaining the enterprise and pointing out the signposts and mile stones and how marvellous we all are.....
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,807
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    Odd you missed this one out.

    However, despite having lower approvals than Badenoch, Starmer is still seen as making the best Prime Minister compared to Kemi Badenoch. He has a 5% lead.

    The most-picked option is “none of these”, at 39%.
    Badenoch has a gravitas problem which will make it hard for her to hold the line against Reform. It's as if it doesn't matter very much what she thinks about anything.
    I think it's more about policies - Jenrick's plan was to outflank Reform (ECHR, deportations that Farage had declared impossible). Badenoch decided to be very vague, and as a consequence she's now playing catch up. She needs to find a very good set of policies that are very eye-catching, quite distinct from Reform (perhaps too technical for Reform to be trusted to deliver?? - though I don't think the Tories have a massive edge on perceived professionalism over Reform any more), but credibly right wing.

    Some areas to consider - go lower on tax than Reform. Go bigger on cuts than Reform. Adopt a more radical, clever and technically fleshed out approach to NHS reform than, um Reform. Rural - go for policies popular in the Shires. Tories will have to be the party of nimbyism. Pick some eye-catching infrastructure projects to back and get behind - potentially identify enough savings to complete HS2 as far as Crewe and Euston (though Euston will probably happen anyway). I don't actually agree with all these policies, but I think they might give the Tories a little breathing space from Reform.
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