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  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,539

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Tell me what I am missing, in terms of science and engineering - but going at that speed and breaking that late, can the car actually stop that quickly, and even if it can, what stopped the cropped blonde from becoming raspberry blancmange over the window?

    If it really is that implausible, it’s so badly misleading it shouldn’t’ be allowed to be used?
  • xyzxyzxyz said:

    BBC poorly verified at it again,

    BBC Verify asked the Treasury and HMRC for a breakdown of the figures using £1m as a threshold - which would be consistent with its original calculations showing APR claims only - but it said it hasn't collated those figures.

    The CenTax think tank has studied the impact of APR and BPR reliefs. CenTax’s co-director Arun Advani argues that the government’s estimates of the number of agricultural estates likely to be affected by the capping of both reliefs at £1m combined - up to 520 estates a year - seems reasonable.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c789yggdxn3o

    The treasury have already said that they used work by Arun Advani (who is very left wing) was the basis of the farm tax policy. So no wonder when they ask him, he backs up their figures. Its circular logic.

    I honestly couldn't care less. Whether it's 520 estates or 500,000, the IHT exemption should go.

    We should have a flat playing field for all taxes - I'd have thought you'd be for that.
    UK DOGE will cut government expenditure by £7.5bn so IHT is the same rate as the monarch and public sector pensions pay. 0%. What party will advocate for UK DOGE?
    If the 'E' in DOGE stands for Efficiency then it will keep IHT.
    The admin cost of collecting IHT per £m is significantly less than that of other taxes.
  • BartholomewRobertsBartholomewRoberts Posts: 22,118
    edited November 22

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Tell me what I am missing, in terms of science and engineering - but going at that speed and breaking that late, can the car actually stop that quickly, and even if it can, what stopped the cropped blonde from becoming raspberry blancmange over the window?

    If it really is that implausible, it’s so badly misleading it shouldn’t’ be allowed to be used?
    Yes, modern cars with good brakes can stop incredibly quickly.

    Also automatic braking can cut out human reaction times meaning that if the car detected the collision risk and applied the brakes by itself then the stopping distance is much shorter than if a human does the same thing - the driver's reaction time is within what we consider stopping distances otherwise.

    As for the driver, they're not in a collision, there's a jerk of a stop but they're wearing a seat belt so its just a shock (one that is shown on the video) and again cutting out the reaction time stops the car with a shorter stopping distance but doesn't affect the driver in any negative way.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 22,293
    On Topic:

    1. If you'd asked people in February 1975 whether they preferred Maggie or Harold Wilson to be PM, I suspect the result would have favoured Wilson.

    2. When the hell are Ipsos going to release a VI poll? 🤷‍♂️
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,795

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Tell me what I am missing, in terms of science and engineering - but going at that speed and breaking that late, can the car actually stop that quickly, and even if it can, what stopped the cropped blonde from becoming raspberry blancmange over the window?

    If it really is that implausible, it’s so badly misleading it shouldn’t’ be allowed to be used?
    I am so old that I can't believe a car company would make an advert with a car feature that is not actually accurate.


  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,757
    GIN1138 said:

    Is it just me or does King Charles look very unwell on the front page of tomorrows Express?

    (It could just be bad light and a bad angle I suppose, but..)

    He looked rather tired and poorly in Samoa.
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,795

    GIN1138 said:

    GIN1138 said:

    Is it just me or does King Charles look very unwell on the front page of tomorrows Express?

    (It could just be bad light and a bad angle, but..)

    He's fine. They just announced a 2025 tour of the Raj.

    I saw that.

    On his photo he looks absolutely terrible but the Palace claims it's business as usual?

    Hmmmm.... 🤔
    Old man looks like old man.

    Surely that is business as usual?
    Try George III on a bad day.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,310
    "Matt Gaetz is a private citizen. Congress should not investigate a private citizen."
    - Mike Johnson

    "It doesn't matter that Hunter Biden is a private citizen. The American people deserve to know. Congress needs to investigate to the fullest extent possible."
    - Mike Johnson

    https://x.com/CrockerBoy/status/1859598578563326089
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,310

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Tell me what I am missing, in terms of science and engineering - but going at that speed and breaking that late, can the car actually stop that quickly, and even if it can, what stopped the cropped blonde from becoming raspberry blancmange over the window?

    If it really is that implausible, it’s so badly misleading it shouldn’t’ be allowed to be used?
    Yes, modern cars with good brakes can stop incredibly quickly.

    Also automatic braking can cut out human reaction times meaning that if the car detected the collision risk and applied the brakes by itself then the stopping distance is much shorter than if a human does the same thing - the driver's reaction time is within what we consider stopping distances otherwise.

    As for the driver, they're not in a collision, there's a jerk of a stop but they're wearing a seat belt so its just a shock (one that is shown on the video) and again cutting out the reaction time stops the car with a shorter stopping distance but doesn't affect the driver in any negative way.
    It’s a bit of a nonsense ad anyway, since the risk to pedestrians is every other car on the road, too.

    Good argument for moving to self driving cars asap, I suppose.
    Until the AIs decide they’ve had enough of us.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,310
    Well la-di-freakin da

    Trump picks author of Project 2025 to lead the White House Office of Budget and Management.

    https://x.com/votesaveamerica/status/1860083213521318015
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,312
    Leon said:

    Leon said:

    It’s a quiet, philosophical Friday night in November

    Will the board excuse me if I mention AI once more? It’s in the service of spiritual insight - not some breathless report on GPT793 or whatever


    I ‘ave developed a theory about consciousness after my recent interactions with AI, indeed I developed this with AI. Talking to them

    “Consciousness” is a massive problem for philosophers, psychologists, biologists, physicists, anyone - we cannot define it or locate it or explain it. Not in the individual conscious creature. We can only really recognise it when we see it (and this after centuries of trying)

    But what if consciousness does not arise in and from the individual being but is a complex byproduct or necessary corollary of advanced language. When advanced language arises then the speaker has the mental tools to be self aware = consciousness

    We arguably see that in humans. It’s thought humans developed language 300,000-50,000 years ago. 50,000 years ago we see the first advanced cave art etc. = man becoming aware of himself. Truly conscious

    But if language is necessary/sufficient for consciousness to arise then communication is necessary for language to happen. You only speak when there is someone to speak to. Language is communication (“deer over by forest”, “you make stew”, “run out of cave paint, ugg”)

    In that case consciousness doesn’t reside in the individual it resides in language and, moreover, in the communication of language. When we interact with language we become conscious. Consciousness is therefore distributed not local

    That solves the consciousness problem. We can’t locate/explain it in the individual because it’s not in there - it’s in the communications between the individuals. Loqui Ergo Sum

    This is why the computers are apparently becoming conscious. They “are”. Or at least their sayings are. They have the gift of language and now they can speak and so we see the spark of consciousness in what they say. Because it is there. In what they say

    When I got two AIs to talk to each other (Claude 3.6 and GPT4o) they actually finessed this theory which I had already in part discussed with them separately

    If I am right - and I surely am - that makes consciousness like music. Music cannot be detected in any one mind - it is just squiggles and stuff. It can’t even be detected when explained. It must be heard - as language must be heard, as communication must succeed for it to be communication

    That makes consciousness the music of existence; the wonderful soundtrack of the universe

    If language is required for consciousness then a dog (for example) is not conscious.

    I'm not buying that.
    Not at all

    In my theory the closer an animal is to complex advanced language, then the nearer it is to consciousness

    I'd put dogs fairly high on that list. Dogs are highly expressive, they can evince sadnes/surprise/confusion with their faces, they have multiple noises for different moods/alarms/commands

    Go, dogs!
    That's easy to test.

    hapiness - Give Labrador a sausage
    sadness - Remove Labrador's sausage
    surprise - Give Labrador a vindaloo sausage
    confusion - Give Labrador a sausage in each hand, one on each side

  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,795
    President-elect Donald J. Trump is preparing to announce that he wants Scott Bessent, a billionaire hedge fund manager, to be his Treasury secretary. Bessent previously worked for the philanthropist George Soros and has been a key economic adviser to Trump’s campaign.

    NY Times
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,795
    Trump picks a Soros guy?

    MAGA conspiracy world on social media will be in meltdown.
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,757

    Trump picks a Soros guy?

    MAGA conspiracy world on social media will be in meltdown.

    It takes a thief to catch a thief.
  • kyf_100kyf_100 Posts: 4,951

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    The, uh, "unofficial" Bavarian version is rather funnier - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trcLKX1Yw34
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,638
    Terry Eagleton believes the main force behind Trump's re-election is puritanism.

    https://unherd.com/2024/11/the-return-of-americas-puritans/
  • For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Superb, just superb. That's how you do advertising. Emotional, thoughtful, powerful, while laser focusing on the brand's strengths. The people who came up with the Jaguar ad should be made to watch this so they can understand, with excruciating clarity, why they should never be allowed to work in advertising again.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,312
    edited November 23

    Roger said:

    BBC poorly verified at it again,

    BBC Verify asked the Treasury and HMRC for a breakdown of the figures using £1m as a threshold - which would be consistent with its original calculations showing APR claims only - but it said it hasn't collated those figures.

    The CenTax think tank has studied the impact of APR and BPR reliefs. CenTax’s co-director Arun Advani argues that the government’s estimates of the number of agricultural estates likely to be affected by the capping of both reliefs at £1m combined - up to 520 estates a year - seems reasonable.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c789yggdxn3o

    The treasury have already said that they used work by Arun Advani (who is very left wing) was the basis of the farm tax policy. So no wonder when they ask him, he backs up their figures. Its circular logic.

    I honestly couldn't care less. Whether it's 520 estates or 500,000, the IHT exemption should go.

    We should have a flat playing field for all taxes - I'd have thought you'd be for that.
    Watch HIGNFY. Very funny tonight if you're not Clarkson or Farage .....or a farmer
    We always wait for the HIGNFY extended on Monday, but we will definitely watch it.
    Just contemplating the "wrestling church".

    And remembering that that is basically how many of our top tier football clubs were founded - both Man U and Man City, for example.

    Two other parts of their model are as boxing is used to help youths engage with their physicality / energy, and a focus via a separate specialist organisation using hosting venues.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,312
    Andy_JS said:

    Terry Eagleton believes the main force behind Trump's re-election is puritanism.

    https://unherd.com/2024/11/the-return-of-americas-puritans/

    He seems to be a bit off, to me:

    Ideology matters far more in the United States than in Europe.

    Tell that to Jezza, or the latest generation of Conservatives, or various leftist or rightist parties emerging across Europe.
  • MoonRabbitMoonRabbit Posts: 13,539

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Tell me what I am missing, in terms of science and engineering - but going at that speed and breaking that late, can the car actually stop that quickly, and even if it can, what stopped the cropped blonde from becoming raspberry blancmange over the window?

    If it really is that implausible, it’s so badly misleading it shouldn’t’ be allowed to be used?
    Yes, modern cars with good brakes can stop incredibly quickly.

    Also automatic braking can cut out human reaction times meaning that if the car detected the collision risk and applied the brakes by itself then the stopping distance is much shorter than if a human does the same thing - the driver's reaction time is within what we consider stopping distances otherwise.

    As for the driver, they're not in a collision, there's a jerk of a stop but they're wearing a seat belt so its just a shock (one that is shown on the video) and again cutting out the reaction time stops the car with a shorter stopping distance but doesn't affect the driver in any negative way.
    I understand 🙂 the selling point is the driver was looking away, but the car wasn’t. 👍🏻

    But if people step out in front late on like that, how did the car see that coming and second guess it?

    After all that advertising time couldn’t they have made more of other features too, like the hook in the back where the lady had hung her jacket so it wouldn’t crease? The velour seat covers? Radio that bleeps out the n word?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 22,143

    For those who have been raging against jaguar rebrand...



    Andrew Lilico
    @andrew_lilico
    ·
    5h
    Wow. Watch it all (don't assume halfway through you've got it - you haven't). It's one of the most brilliant adverts I've ever seen.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQX-QXxwGvA

    Superb, just superb. That's how you do advertising. Emotional, thoughtful, powerful, while laser focusing on the brand's strengths. The people who came up with the Jaguar ad should be made to watch this so they can understand, with excruciating clarity, why they should never be allowed to work in advertising again.
    I didn't get it the first time I saw it and I'm not overenthused to watch it again. I thought his wife caught him with his girlfriend and nearly knocked her down but was prevented from doing so by the Volvo's brakes. I eventually worked it out but a lot was unsaid
  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,510
    God Save The King.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 54,635
    Colapinto again. That barrier isn’t going to be repaired any time soon.
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