"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
A road trip in the US is like waking up in Norfolk, driving along a dual carriageway at motorway speed the whole day, and by the afternoon finding that you’re still in Norfolk.
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
"Right of Genghis Khan poster dislikes Labour budget" shocker!
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
Hundreds of millions? Trump only got ~75m votes! I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
A road trip in the US is like waking up in Norfolk, driving along a dual carriageway at motorway speed the whole day, and by the afternoon finding that you’re still in Norfolk.
This is one of the Guardian's american writers. To them, based on this article, it is perfectly normal for friends to be texting in anxiety from San F airport.
Meanwhile, millions of americans have never left their own state.
The Harris EC, Trump PV vote could easily have won.
Trump has won: PA by 1.9% MI by 1.5% WI by 0.8%
If Harris had won all three, she wins the EC.
Trump currently leads popular vote by 3.3%.
Looks like that will fall by about 1% when all votes counted - ie lead will fall by about 1.5m. So final popular vote lead will be about 2.3%.
Then a uniform swing of 1% across the whole country (ie Harris +1, Trump -1) and Harris wins PA, MI and WI, and Trump still wins popular vote.
The swing state polls were within the margin of error. The Selzer Iowa poll ... who knows what went so wrong?
The Selzer has a lot to answer for. It fattened up what was to be brutally killed.
Well, it really underlines the importance of not paying too much attention to any single poll, no matter what the source or how good the track record. And it was cruel to those who wanted Harris to win, because it gave false hope to them that this was something other than a toss-up, which pretty well all the other polls were indicating.
Obviously to get the lead wrong by 16 points was something far more serious than ordinary statistical error. Something happened to make the methodology wrong by a mile. It will be interesting to see if anyone manages to work out what.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
Hundreds of millions? Trump only got ~75m votes! I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
The mindsets of some of the left wing posters on here are quite extraordinary.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
No, the first group just wants the second group to get it only in marriage
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
A road trip in the US is like waking up in Norfolk, driving along a dual carriageway at motorway speed the whole day, and by the afternoon finding that you’re still in Norfolk.
Not if you drive from San Jose to Truckee.
Indeed.
If you try that on a Friday in ski season, you'll still be in San Jose at the end of the day.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
This is the "coalition of misfits". It worked in opposition; I've no idea how it can in government.
Cattle rancher Nick Nalder wants Trump to use tariffs to raise the price of foreign beef, so Nick can charge Americans higher prices for his beef.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
Isn't that mostly because NT volunteers are old coders, not kids on camps?
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Stupid comment.
Every young man, regardless of political affiliation, such that young men have political affiliations, is desperate for sex.
The Harris EC, Trump PV vote could easily have won.
Trump has won: PA by 1.9% MI by 1.5% WI by 0.8%
If Harris had won all three, she wins the EC.
Trump currently leads popular vote by 3.3%.
Looks like that will fall by about 1% when all votes counted - ie lead will fall by about 1.5m. So final popular vote lead will be about 2.3%.
Then a uniform swing of 1% across the whole country (ie Harris +1, Trump -1) and Harris wins PA, MI and WI, and Trump still wins popular vote.
Would have been a "luv it" outcome.
Hardly. Trump winning the popular vote is not reassuring at all. The Democrats I'm realising are not that good at politics.
Which incumbants anywhere have done better than losing just 3% since global inflation spiralled? Tories lost 20% for example.
Is this one of those the Democrats actually won posts.
Err, no. It's saying that reaction is as usual hyperbolic. Margins were small, a couple of % difference and Harris would be lauded as a genius running a strong campaign. Then I could point out she was running against a terrible candidate so isn't a genius.
The fundamentals favoured the Republicans strongly and they got home comfortably but less than the fundamentals would suggest. That doesn't strike me as evidence for the Democrats being terrible at politics.
Is it still mathematically possible for Kamala to draw level or overtake (just) Trump in the PV?
Betfair says 350/1 shot atm but I'm not sure it's that low.
No, she is the John Kerry to Hillary's Al Gore.
Not very charismatic like Gore and Hillary but more left liberal like Kerry whereas Gore and Hillary were at least centrist enough to win the popular vote even if not the EC
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
Yet.
Though I think it's the power and respectability of certain organisations which permit predators to act in the most extreme ways and then incentivise others to cover it up. They're saving lives after all, can't damage the brand. They'd be less inclined to ignore abusers to save the reputation of the National Trust.
But it was really a general point about corruption, not specifically abuse.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Haven't we established that this is a parody account?
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
Hundreds of millions? Trump only got ~75m votes! I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
Globally I mean. Eg I know this ghastly bloke in Singapore and believe me he's going to produce double the shit now.
The "great" thing depends. Eg I don't find "great AGAIN" sentiment to be fine. It's usually code for something else.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
"Right of Genghis Khan poster dislikes Labour budget" shocker!
I'm sorry but there's no way you can dismiss criticism of the budget in those terms. If this were a budget to create a Swedish model socialist paradise via investment, I would profoundly diagree with its trajectory and wisdom but would understand its logic and might even find parts of it to support. It's not that. There's no strategic vision. There's no optimism or hope. Just silly splurging on unreformed money pits or new white elephants, placed on the national credit card. It is a destructive, ephemeral, stupid budget, written by people who have zero ideas beyond the standard woke inanities.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Stupid comment.
Every young man, regardless of political affiliation, such that young men have political affiliations, is desperate for sex.
Your point is pointless.
Missing the point, I'm afraid.
If young men want young women to have lots of sex, young women will want to have reliable access to contraception and, as a last resort, abortion. Because otherwise, the consequences of saying "yes" are just too heavy to contemplate.
So those young men who have hitched their wagons to the Trump train run the risk of feeling proper charlies. But that's all they will be doing, even if they're lucky.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
Though again Smyth was never charged nor convicted of any offence in his lifetime in the UK
Harold Shipman was only convicted of 15 murders before he died, doesn't mean a view could not be taken of the likely higher victim tally afterwards.
Shipman was still convicted in a court of law of offences unlike Smyth
Which doesn't argue the point at all that it is possible and can be reasonable to come to conclusions about someone after they died.
Say there was a confession discovered after death, still no conviction but we'd believe it. Other evidence can play the same role. Or someone might die whilst on trial facing a very strong case.
Obviously we wouldn't know if the evidence here would definitely be proven, not all post dearh investigations will be persuasive, look at the ridiculous Heath one, but we're not required to just avoid any judgement at all.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
I am sure there is an alternative budget somewhere which balances the books, keeps the election promises, promotes growth, cuts borrowing, taxes painlessly, gets more for less money, builds a million houses a year, sorts the NHS, employs 3 million people who don't feel like working just now, funds our armed forces for when America leaves NATO and stops the boats.
But no-one has produced a shadow of a scintilla of what this alternative Reeves budget would actually, in totality, say and do.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
There aren't many children in the National Trust.
Plenty of such tales in boarding schools, care homes and orphanages, the scouts and youth football clubs though from the 1970s and 1980s before today's safeguarding era.
Plus even if you are not a paedophile but just a narcissist sexual abuser of power with lots of money you are far more likely to gravitate to Hollywood, Westminster, the City etc than the National Trust, hence Weinstein, Elphicke, Odey (allegations anyway) etc
Just realised I’m accidentally on an England and Wales city tour. 5 days, 5 cities: Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham (tonight), Cardiff and Swansea. Plus London if you count my home city.
Off to an Eritrean restaurant for dinner.
So far Manchester wins by a mile but we’ll see what the Jewellery quarter has to offer this evening.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
Hundreds of millions? Trump only got ~75m votes! I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
The mindsets of some of the left wing posters on here are quite extraordinary.
Why thank you, Felix. Hope Spain is still agreeing with you.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
When I was to San Francisco Airport between flights, I made use I studied the local geography just in case anyone stopped me and asked me the way to San Jose.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Haven't we established that this is a parody account?
Even if that account is a parody, the tension in the Trump coalition is real.
Christian conservatives and horny young men don't make comfortable bedfellows erm... allies.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
MM, I like you - a lot - but a bit of humility wouldn't go amiss.
You were horrendously bias on this election and almost at Rory Stewart levels. Also, weirdly, you persist in adopting the talking positions of the Liberal-Left when commenting on Trump and his voters in a way you never would in the UK, for the Conservatives or even Reform.
Not quite sure why you do this, Wokeism is a problem on both sides of the Atlantic and interlinked, and it's just a suggestion.
President Joe Biden is expected to address the nation from the White House for the first time since Donald Trump's election win at 11:00 EST (16:00 GMT)
Go on Joe - pardon all the illegals!
He'll probably say that he's disappointed President Putin has been re-elected to office, but we're a democracy and must accept
Is it still mathematically possible for Kamala to draw level or overtake (just) Trump in the PV?
Betfair says 350/1 shot atm but I'm not sure it's that low.
No, she is the John Kerry to Hillary's Al Gore.
Not very charismatic like Gore and Hillary but more left liberal like Kerry whereas Gore and Hillary were at least centrist enough to win the popular vote even if not the EC
Watching Biden's speech its clear there was a fascinating alt-history option: No debate or Biden is having a great day if there is a debate. No pressure to step down. He's on the ticket.
And then through careful management he keeps it together in public. Could Trump beat him in the rematch?
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
There have been in all organisations where people have power over other people who are vulnerable, including medicine, education, police, the care system, and showbusiness.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Haven't we established that this is a parody account?
Even if that account is a parody, the tension in the Trump coalition is real.
Christian conservatives and horny young men don't make comfortable bedfellows erm... allies.
There always seems to be a few every Republican convention who find it more than agreeable.
The amount of young men being thrilled has really caught me by surprise. Trump clearly appeals to these people on the economy and other issues. It seems like going on Rogan etc was a touch of genius - assuming that is what has helped him reach these people.
I also wonder how if some of that is a rejection of Harris basically saying “vote for me, I am a woman” and almost taking those voters for granted.
I'm not surprised. It's a push back from young American men, especially white and Latino ones, who get told everything is their fault by women on TV and social media. There's been a drip, drip of poison that has made men on America feel emasculated and powerless in what they now feel is a system rigged against their success. Why would they vote for a woman who they feel was not only part of this emasculation process but also will speed it up?
That late TV ad with women winking at each other as they voted the opposite way from their husbands probably didn't do them any favours with male voters, either.
Women: Know Your Place.
The idea anyone should expect a woman to vote as she's told by her husband, or the same way, is sickening.
Nobody would expect a man to vote as his wife tells him to.
I don't know how my wife votes, although I "insist" that she does (she was a non-voter before marriage, I can now get her to reluctantly come to the polling station with me). For all I know she just writes "none of the above" across the ballot paper.
However, it's fair to say that putting out ads that basically say "we think your husband is a lying controlling scumbag if he votes for Trump, so vote for us" may not have quite the desired effect.
See that makes you a controlling male arsehole....you insist she votes how fucking dare you?
Just realised I’m accidentally on an England and Wales city tour. 5 days, 5 cities: Manchester, Leeds, Birmingham (tonight), Cardiff and Swansea. Plus London if you count my home city.
Off to an Eritrean restaurant for dinner.
So far Manchester wins by a mile but we’ll see what the Jewellery quarter has to offer this evening.
If you're a fan of real ale - and you're willing to stick your head outside of the Jewellery quarter - then I can recommend The Wellington on Bennetts Hill.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
Hundreds of millions? Trump only got ~75m votes! I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
The mindsets of some of the left wing posters on here are quite extraordinary.
As are, to be fair, the mindsets of some of the right wing posters on here.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The only surprise here is that anyone would be surprised that a church would facilitate such crimes. That's organised religion for you.
The point Kle4 was making that seems to have gone over your head is that that's organised organisations for you. Religion being one of many.
It's a fair point, though on the other hand religious bodies do seem particularly prone to this affliction. There aren't many tales of which I am aware of, for example, dodgy laundries and paedophile rings emerging from the National Trust.
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
I am sure there is an alternative budget somewhere which balances the books, keeps the election promises, promotes growth, cuts borrowing, taxes painlessly, gets more for less money, builds a million houses a year, sorts the NHS, employs 3 million people who don't feel like working just now, funds our armed forces for when America leaves NATO and stops the boats.
But no-one has produced a shadow of a scintilla of what this alternative Reeves budget would actually, in totality, say and do.
Indeed, there's the thing - the Conservatives, Reform, Greens and Liberal Democrats may have their own "budgets" but I've not seen any of them in detail and I suspect none of them gets close to the above.
I thought the Reeves Budget was unnecessarily timid - I'd have gone after Gambling Duty for example. The problem was of course Labour themselves closing down the more obvious routes to raising taxes - basic rate up ro 25%, higher rate to 50% but unfreezing and raising thresholds above inflation would have been my approach.
Instead, we have all these little things round the edges which annoy a lot of people but probably not raising the needed funds to reduce the deficit.
There's been no film more anticipated this year than Gladiator II. The original won Best Picture at the Oscars and huge acclaim for Russell Crowe.
This week a preview at London's BAFTA certainly made an impression on viewers. And if early feelers are right, expect a host of award nominations... at the Razzies.
It's rare for anyone to utter a bad word about anything at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts as there's every chance someone involved in what you are critiquing will pop up next to you at the screening. And yet at this screening, someone was heard openly commenting, "that was so bad" as the titles rolled.
Why? The script was described as awful; the dialogue "laughable".
And the usually reliable Paul Mescal, "makes Gerard Butler look like Daniel Day Lewis".
PS - Gladiator II director Ridley Scott is 87 now, five years older than Joe Biden.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
There's been no film more anticipated this year than Gladiator II. The original won Best Picture at the Oscars and huge acclaim for Russell Crowe.
This week a preview at London's BAFTA certainly made an impression on viewers. And if early feelers are right, expect a host of award nominations... at the Razzies.
It's rare for anyone to utter a bad word about anything at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts as there's every chance someone involved in what you are critiquing will pop up next to you at the screening. And yet at this screening, someone was heard openly commenting, "that was so bad" as the titles rolled.
Why? The script was described as awful; the dialogue "laughable".
And the usually reliable Paul Mescal, "makes Gerard Butler look like Daniel Day Lewis".
PS - Gladiator II director Ridley Scott is 87 now, five years older than Joe Biden.
"Are you not entertained? Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?"
Any state not completing its count within two days should have its electoral college vote reduced proportionally.
That would be a green light for people to disrupt the count . There are things that we don’t have like curing mail-in ballots if people have made a mistake , and many states allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to arrive later and be counted. You also need to signature match the ballots . Of course the law can be changed but these delays are inevitable within the current systems .
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
Haven't we established that this is a parody account?
Even if that account is a parody, the tension in the Trump coalition is real.
Christian conservatives and horny young men don't make comfortable bedfellows erm... allies.
I'm sure the Crusades and Conquistadors had a great many horny young men among their ranks
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
Watching Biden's speech its clear there was a fascinating alt-history option: No debate or Biden is having a great day if there is a debate. No pressure to step down. He's on the ticket.
And then through careful management he keeps it together in public. Could Trump beat him in the rematch?
Biden would have been a disaster because he’s favourability was in the toilet . Notwithstanding you never know when he’s going to have a good day .
Sometimes there can be an over analysis of what went wrong . This was still a close election , it wasn’t a blow out .
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
So- who is the de Niro, and who ends up in the meat truck, to the sounds of that piano bit from Layla?
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
There is (rightly) much talk about the obvious macro concerns, things like the threat of creeping fascism, the potential consequences of his policies, tariffs, blowing out the deficit, ditching Ukraine, etc, but there is also an impact at the micro behavioural level. Imagine hundreds of millions of these types of people all feeling good about themselves, feeling validated, empowered, and behaving accordingly. That will have (impossible to measure but in aggregate very serious) consequences.
Still, it's done now and there's little point banging on about it. Least not this aspect. It's true but it's inflammatory and gets us nowhere. Let's calm down like Joe says.
You should send that to The Guardian.
😊
It's just the 'role model' point expressed in way that irritates and insults.
Any state not completing its count within two days should have its electoral college vote reduced proportionally.
That would be a green light for people to disrupt the count . There are things that we don’t have like curing mail-in ballots if people have made a mistake , and many states allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to arrive later and be counted. You also need to signature match the ballots . Of course the law can be changed but these delays are inevitable within the current systems .
Some states choose to count quickly and some states can't be bothered to.
An alternative punishment for those who cannot be bothered to count their votes in a timely manner could be a massive fine payable to the federal government.
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
Though again Smyth was never charged nor convicted of any offence in his lifetime in the UK
Harold Shipman was only convicted of 15 murders before he died, doesn't mean a view could not be taken of the likely higher victim tally afterwards.
Slightly different, the investigation knew he'd killed many more but they deliberately prosecuted only the clearest-cut cases so as not to overwhelm the jury - and to reduce the investigation time and cost.
Watching Biden's speech its clear there was a fascinating alt-history option: No debate or Biden is having a great day if there is a debate. No pressure to step down. He's on the ticket.
And then through careful management he keeps it together in public. Could Trump beat him in the rematch?
Biden would have been a disaster because he’s favourability was in the toilet . Notwithstanding you never know when he’s going to have a good day .
Sometimes there can be an over analysis of what went wrong . This was still a close election , it wasn’t a blow out .
"Liberal women going on sex strike over Trump win Disgruntled female voters draw inspiration from Korean 4B movement to take revenge against men who voted Republican"
They are. Almost all MAGAs are bad news. Their equivalents outside America too. This brings me to another (and imo underappreciated) downside of Nov 5th. Which is that just about every little racist, xenophobe, misogynist and bigot the whole world over will be happy about the re-election of Donald Trump.
As we can all see, on here.
Have you ever read "Things can only get better" by John O'Farrell? In it, he describes his experiences as a student in the early 80s, where left-wing students compete with other left-wing students to take the most left wing position, decrying any insufficiently zealous left-winger as a Tory. It feels like this is what's going on here. Zealous anti Trumpers are comepting to be the most horrified by him and denouncing anyone slightly nuanced or and anyone who thinks certain Dems have been a bit crap as MAGAs. Like almost everyone here, I thought a Kamala win would be a significantly better outcome for America, Britain, and the world. But I did think she was a shit candidate, and I think certain Dems are being ridiculous. Let's not succumb tp TDS, eh?
Any state not completing its count within two days should have its electoral college vote reduced proportionally.
That would be a green light for people to disrupt the count . There are things that we don’t have like curing mail-in ballots if people have made a mistake , and many states allow ballots postmarked by Election Day to arrive later and be counted. You also need to signature match the ballots . Of course the law can be changed but these delays are inevitable within the current systems .
Some states choose to count quickly and some states can't be bothered to.
An alternative punishment for those who cannot be bothered to count their votes in a timely manner could be a massive fine payable to the federal government.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
It's probably a good thing that Trump is distancing himself RFK given he's a complete and total crank. If they do cast RFK aside, it may bode well for the second Trump Presidency.
Hopefully they keep Musk inside the tent though as he probably does have quite a lot to offer.
No way, the thumping would have been even bigger. They needed a proper primary process to get to the right candidate and policy platform.
That might have helped, but don't forget the most likely winner of the Primary process was Gavin Newsom, and he's worse than Harris.
Have any incumbent governments held onto their majority in the post Ukraine/Covid inflation world?
That the fundamental challenge. Voters everywhere have gotten poorer in the last four years, irrespective of who was in charge. And they have reacted by kicking incumbents.
It's happened in Poland, in the UK, in South Africa, in Argentina, in India, and in Japan. It happened in France.
And where elections haven't happened yet, incumbents are almost universally unpopular, having been blamed for the economic malaise.
Ireland might be an exception if the latest opinion polls are an accurate guide.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
Watching Biden's speech its clear there was a fascinating alt-history option: No debate or Biden is having a great day if there is a debate. No pressure to step down. He's on the ticket.
And then through careful management he keeps it together in public. Could Trump beat him in the rematch?
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
Or the opening scene of The Dark Knight where everyone in The Joker's bank robbery takes turns shooting each of their other accomplices as soon as they've finished their role until there's only one left standing, The Joker himself.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
It's probably a good thing that Trump is distancing himself RFK given he's a complete and total crank. If they do cast RFK aside, it may bode well for the second Trump Presidency.
Hopefully they keep Musk inside the tent though as he probably foes have quite a lot to offer.
It would be hilarious to see RFK Jnr totally humiliated . His attempts to either get on or off ballots was pathetic , he’s a total nutjob .
President Joe Biden is expected to address the nation from the White House for the first time since Donald Trump's election win at 11:00 EST (16:00 GMT)
Go on Joe - pardon all the illegals!
He'll probably say that he's disappointed President Putin has been re-elected to office, but we're a democracy and must accept
Is it still mathematically possible for Kamala to draw level or overtake (just) Trump in the PV?
Betfair says 350/1 shot atm but I'm not sure it's that low.
No, she is the John Kerry to Hillary's Al Gore.
Not very charismatic like Gore and Hillary but more left liberal like Kerry whereas Gore and Hillary were at least centrist enough to win the popular vote even if not the EC
That wasn't my question.
It was the effective answer, both Gore and Hillary were well ahead in the popular vote this long after all polls had closed
When heckled by a pro-Palestinian activist midway through his solo gig in Melbourne this week Thom Yorke got in a bit of a strop and stomped off stage for a bit.
It does seem a bit mean to berate a pop star for "being silent" about calling for the end of a conflict the other side of the world, though.
It's not like the Radiohead frontman has ever taken up a political cause like, perhaps, Tibetan freedom, CND protests, the Occupy movement, going sailing around on Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior boat or anything.
And he's definitely not flogging £65 hoodies with "Thom York Institute For Peace" on the front of them on his tour, is he?
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
Though again Smyth was never charged nor convicted of any offence in his lifetime in the UK
For anyone who wants to follow this through, a good place to start is probably the Law and Religion UK Blog, which has a further link to the Makin Report itself:
Organisations, however moral their mission, inevitably prioritise themselves over that mission - evidence number 3,603,321
A British barrister's "horrific" and violent abuse of more than 100 children and young men was covered up within the Church of England for decades, according to the conclusion of a damning report.
The amount of young men being thrilled has really caught me by surprise. Trump clearly appeals to these people on the economy and other issues. It seems like going on Rogan etc was a touch of genius - assuming that is what has helped him reach these people.
I also wonder how if some of that is a rejection of Harris basically saying “vote for me, I am a woman” and almost taking those voters for granted.
I'm not surprised. It's a push back from young American men, especially white and Latino ones, who get told everything is their fault by women on TV and social media. There's been a drip, drip of poison that has made men on America feel emasculated and powerless in what they now feel is a system rigged against their success. Why would they vote for a woman who they feel was not only part of this emasculation process but also will speed it up?
That late TV ad with women winking at each other as they voted the opposite way from their husbands probably didn't do them any favours with male voters, either.
Women: Know Your Place.
The idea anyone should expect a woman to vote as she's told by her husband, or the same way, is sickening.
Nobody would expect a man to vote as his wife tells him to.
I don't know how my wife votes, although I "insist" that she does (she was a non-voter before marriage, I can now get her to reluctantly come to the polling station with me). For all I know she just writes "none of the above" across the ballot paper.
However, it's fair to say that putting out ads that basically say "we think your husband is a lying controlling scumbag if he votes for Trump, so vote for us" may not have quite the desired effect.
See that makes you a controlling male arsehole....you insist she votes how fucking dare you?
I thought that the quote marks indicated fairly clearly my tongue was somewhat in my cheek. If she really didn't want to vote she wouldn't - but I can just about get her to come down the polling booth if she goes when I go!
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
The central problem with the Budget was the national insurance hike. It's been presented as an effort to get businesses to contribute more rather than workers, but in practice all it will do is weaken smaller employers, whilst larger ones will seek to recoup their losses in the medium term through wage suppression. Yet more years of stagnating incomes from yet another jam tomorrow administration beckon. This is unlikely to end well for the Government, as both the Tories and the US Democrats could tell them.
At least this lot actually understand that small state fantasies aren't sustainable when your population is as old, knackered, fat, sick and altogether dependent as ours is. But their attempts to refinance the crumbling state are half-arsed and still, ultimately, rely on the rinsing of earned incomes - it's just that they've disguised the fact by taking the money off employers and inviting them to recover their losses from their employees. Meanwhile, in other respects Continuity Toryism reigns: the Triple Lock is maintained as a permanent fixture, whilst the two child cap remains in place and the Government seeks to cut several billion pounds off the bill for sickness and disability benefits.
The Government has taken baby steps in the right direction - with some increases in CGT rates and the widening of death duties - but these are tentative and wholly inadequate to the scale of the difficulties that it faces. Assets are still taxed at a fraction of the rate of wages; most estates will still be transmitted entirely tax free. At the fundamental level, when you strip away the baubles, this is simply yet another administration the primary function of which is to facilitate the ongoing transfer of wealth from the poor and the young to the rich and the old. It's an improvement on the dreadful mess that came before, but fast forward five years and the odds are that the average working person will be no better off than they are now, and still with no relief from the stagnation in sight.
Broadly agree with this. Our taxes are disproportionately on those who work for a living. We tax earnings more than rent, or debt interest, or dividends. Where on earth is the logic in this? We tax gains in the values of assets at small proportions of what we charge on work. And the budget made it worse. Pretending they didn't because it was employers NI rather than employees NI is just dishonest.
Our pension system is to a massive extent there for the better off. Until now it has been used for tax avoidance in IHT. Every year we reduce the tax paid by our better off by tens of billions in tax relief. We prioritise the payment of inheritance over the cost of care for the elderly. It's frankly outrageous.
A compassionate society needs to help those that need it. But we are still more focused on the comfortably off remaining that way than helping. We are running out of road and all of our main parties are more interested in selling their brand of fantasy than seeking to address the problems.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
It's all transactional with Trump. RFK delivered his votes and is now unnecessary. It's going to be like that bit in Goodfellas after the Lufthansa heist, when deNiro goes around whacking all his colleagues so he don't have to share.
Or the opening scene of The Dark Knight where everyone in The Joker's bank robbery takes turns shooting each of their other accomplices as soon as they've finished their role until there's only one left standing, The Joker himself.
"I believe whatever doesn't kill you, simply makes you... stranger!"
There's been no film more anticipated this year than Gladiator II. The original won Best Picture at the Oscars and huge acclaim for Russell Crowe.
This week a preview at London's BAFTA certainly made an impression on viewers. And if early feelers are right, expect a host of award nominations... at the Razzies.
It's rare for anyone to utter a bad word about anything at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts as there's every chance someone involved in what you are critiquing will pop up next to you at the screening. And yet at this screening, someone was heard openly commenting, "that was so bad" as the titles rolled.
Why? The script was described as awful; the dialogue "laughable".
And the usually reliable Paul Mescal, "makes Gerard Butler look like Daniel Day Lewis".
PS - Gladiator II director Ridley Scott is 87 now, five years older than Joe Biden.
To be fair, after the first or second watch of gladiator it’s actually not that great and a bit naff. An amazing spectacle when you first watch in a cinema, a different film you notice different things about when you watch it at home but I am never going to watch it as many times as Spartacus or Ben Hur.
Regardless of one's views, the Democrats, led by Biden and Harris (with additional words from Obama and Clinton) have reacted to their defeat with considerably more dignity than Trump and the Republicans did four years ago. They deserve credit for that.
Im surprised you think Im, holding back. Ive been saying Reeves is useless since July to gasps of horror for the the PB Lefties. Wait for the budget I was told it will put it all right, Well we've had the budget and it was a lead balloon.
Nothing for growth Laughable efforts on housing Job destroying taxes on business And a big dollop of inflation to come.
Really she needs put out to grass.
I am sure there is an alternative budget somewhere which balances the books, keeps the election promises, promotes growth, cuts borrowing, taxes painlessly, gets more for less money, builds a million houses a year, sorts the NHS, employs 3 million people who don't feel like working just now, funds our armed forces for when America leaves NATO and stops the boats.
But no-one has produced a shadow of a scintilla of what this alternative Reeves budget would actually, in totality, say and do.
Indeed, there's the thing - the Conservatives, Reform, Greens and Liberal Democrats may have their own "budgets" but I've not seen any of them in detail and I suspect none of them gets close to the above.
I thought the Reeves Budget was unnecessarily timid - I'd have gone after Gambling Duty for example. The problem was of course Labour themselves closing down the more obvious routes to raising taxes - basic rate up ro 25%, higher rate to 50% but unfreezing and raising thresholds above inflation would have been my approach.
Instead, we have all these little things round the edges which annoy a lot of people but probably not raising the needed funds to reduce the deficit.
The last epoch making election was 1945 and the creation, even completion, of the tax payer funded welfare/NHS state. Add 5-18 free education to that. We have never, even in the Thatcher years, shown the tiniest inclination to resile from it, no party dare touch it, and in social care most people want to add to it. In reality it is infinitely more important to most people, if they were forced to choose, than lower taxes. I don't think this will change.
While many of our problems are down to competence over decades a high tax society is inevitable from the simple equation:
The 1945 deal+the ever increasing costs of implementation in an ageing and wealthy society=ever increasing tax bills.
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One chunk of it is religious conservatives and birthrate obsessives who want to stymie access to abortion.
Another chunk of it is young men who are desperate for sex.
If the first subset get what they want, the second subset ain't getting what they want.
I'd rather it was in an unimportant country rather than one that (like it or not) the rest of the world depends on, but this is going to be fascinating to watch.
I suppose there are always the unique delights of a ladyman. (No there aren't. Ed.)
I'm amused that the first insult they reach for is "communist".
I promise you not all MAGAs are bad news. I know a couple who are very nice people. The basic sentiment of your country being great is fine imo.
"News of Trump’s victory was impossible to absorb, particularly in front of children."
"A friend on layover at San Francisco airport sent photos of a group of men, and a single woman, high-fiving each other at the gate"
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/nov/07/us-elections-donald-trump-win-worse-americans-knew?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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This is one of the Guardian's american writers. To them, based on this article, it is perfectly normal for friends to be texting in anxiety from San F airport.
Meanwhile, millions of americans have never left their own state.
Obviously to get the lead wrong by 16 points was something far more serious than ordinary statistical error. Something happened to make the methodology wrong by a mile. It will be interesting to see if anyone manages to work out what.
Betfair says 350/1 shot atm but I'm not sure it's that low.
If you try that on a Friday in ski season, you'll still be in San Jose at the end of the day.
It worked in opposition; I've no idea how it can in government.
Cattle rancher Nick Nalder wants Trump to use tariffs to raise the price of foreign beef, so Nick can charge Americans higher prices for his beef.
Nick also hopes Trump will "rein in inflation" - but for him, not for his customers.
https://x.com/JamesSurowiecki/status/1854321775015759939
Every young man, regardless of political affiliation, such that young men have political affiliations, is desperate for sex.
Your point is pointless.
The fundamentals favoured the Republicans strongly and they got home comfortably but less than the fundamentals would suggest. That doesn't strike me as evidence for the Democrats being terrible at politics.
Not very charismatic like Gore and Hillary but more left liberal like Kerry whereas Gore and Hillary were at least centrist enough to win the popular vote even if not the EC
Though I think it's the power and respectability of certain organisations which permit predators to act in the most extreme ways and then incentivise others to cover it up. They're saving lives after all, can't damage the brand. They'd be less inclined to ignore abusers to save the reputation of the National Trust.
But it was really a general point about corruption, not specifically abuse.
An Iowa poll was never going to pick that up.
Even if it had been accurate.
The "great" thing depends. Eg I don't find "great AGAIN" sentiment to be fine. It's usually code for something else.
If young men want young women to have lots of sex, young women will want to have reliable access to contraception and, as a last resort, abortion. Because otherwise, the consequences of saying "yes" are just too heavy to contemplate.
So those young men who have hitched their wagons to the Trump train run the risk of feeling proper charlies. But that's all they will be doing, even if they're lucky.
Say there was a confession discovered after death, still no conviction but we'd believe it. Other evidence can play the same role. Or someone might die whilst on trial facing a very strong case.
Obviously we wouldn't know if the evidence here would definitely be proven, not all post dearh investigations will be persuasive, look at the ridiculous Heath one, but we're not required to just avoid any judgement at all.
Donald Trump’s team appeared to be quietly distancing itself from Robert F Kennedy Jr in the immediate aftermath of the election amid speculation that the former presidential candidate could be handed control of US public health agencies.
Advisers to the president-elect questioned whether Mr Kennedy, a vaccine sceptic who has also been the subject of a series of bizarre stories involving animals, would make it through a security check for a cabinet position."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2024/11/07/donald-trump-kamala-harris-us-election-live-updates/
A reminder, if needed, that what Trump actually does may bear no relation to what he has said.
But no-one has produced a shadow of a scintilla of what this alternative Reeves budget would actually, in totality, say and do.
Plenty of such tales in boarding schools, care homes and orphanages, the scouts and youth football clubs though from the 1970s and 1980s before today's safeguarding era.
Plus even if you are not a paedophile but just a narcissist sexual abuser of power with lots of money you are far more likely to gravitate to Hollywood, Westminster, the City etc than the National Trust, hence Weinstein, Elphicke, Odey (allegations anyway) etc
Off to an Eritrean restaurant for dinner.
So far Manchester wins by a mile but we’ll see what the Jewellery quarter has to offer this evening.
When I was to San Francisco Airport between flights, I made use I studied the local geography just in case anyone stopped me and asked me the way to San Jose.
Like when your team wins in the last minute with a goal that should have been disallowed. Perfect snarky bliss.
(kind of joking 🙂)
Christian conservatives and horny young men don't make comfortable bedfellows erm... allies.
You were horrendously bias on this election and almost at Rory Stewart levels. Also, weirdly, you persist in adopting the talking positions of the Liberal-Left when commenting on Trump and his voters in a way you never would in the UK, for the Conservatives or even Reform.
Not quite sure why you do this, Wokeism is a problem on both sides of the Atlantic and interlinked, and it's just a suggestion.
And then through careful management he keeps it together in public. Could Trump beat him in the rematch?
And long may that continue.
I thought the Reeves Budget was unnecessarily timid - I'd have gone after Gambling Duty for example. The problem was of course Labour themselves closing down the more obvious routes to raising taxes - basic rate up ro 25%, higher rate to 50% but unfreezing and raising thresholds above inflation would have been my approach.
Instead, we have all these little things round the edges which annoy a lot of people but probably not raising the needed funds to reduce the deficit.
Razzle-Dazzle. Echoing in eternity
There's been no film more anticipated this year than Gladiator II. The original won Best Picture at the Oscars and huge acclaim for Russell Crowe.
This week a preview at London's BAFTA certainly made an impression on viewers. And if early feelers are right, expect a host of award nominations... at the Razzies.
It's rare for anyone to utter a bad word about anything at the British Academy of Film and Television Arts as there's every chance someone involved in what you are critiquing will pop up next to you at the screening. And yet at this screening, someone was heard openly commenting, "that was so bad" as the titles rolled.
Why? The script was described as awful; the dialogue "laughable".
And the usually reliable Paul Mescal, "makes Gerard Butler look like Daniel Day Lewis".
PS - Gladiator II director Ridley Scott is 87 now, five years older than Joe Biden.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/06/suzy-lamplugh-suspect-dies-in-prison-at-70
What will he do in government ? Not yet clear.
Sometimes there can be an over analysis of what went wrong . This was still a close election , it wasn’t a blow out .
It's just the 'role model' point expressed in way that irritates and insults.
An alternative punishment for those who cannot be bothered to count their votes in a timely manner could be a massive fine payable to the federal government.
Harris 226 EVs
In it, he describes his experiences as a student in the early 80s, where left-wing students compete with other left-wing students to take the most left wing position, decrying any insufficiently zealous left-winger as a Tory.
It feels like this is what's going on here. Zealous anti Trumpers are comepting to be the most horrified by him and denouncing anyone slightly nuanced or and anyone who thinks certain Dems have been a bit crap as MAGAs.
Like almost everyone here, I thought a Kamala win would be a significantly better outcome for America, Britain, and the world. But I did think she was a shit candidate, and I think certain Dems are being ridiculous. Let's not succumb tp TDS, eh?
Hopefully they keep Musk inside the tent though as he probably does have quite a lot to offer.
Radiosilence. Fake plastic popstars
When heckled by a pro-Palestinian activist midway through his solo gig in Melbourne this week Thom Yorke got in a bit of a strop and stomped off stage for a bit.
It does seem a bit mean to berate a pop star for "being silent" about calling for the end of a conflict the other side of the world, though.
It's not like the Radiohead frontman has ever taken up a political cause like, perhaps, Tibetan freedom, CND protests, the Occupy movement, going sailing around on Greenpeace's Rainbow Warrior boat or anything.
And he's definitely not flogging £65 hoodies with "Thom York Institute For Peace" on the front of them on his tour, is he?
https://lawandreligionuk.com/2024/11/07/makin-review-of-the-smyth-case-published/
Highlander is the pinnacle example of a fantastic movie being followed up by a steaming pile of dog shite sequel.
But on the other hand, the US economy is doing great! And Trump is a remarkably unpopular winner. And it's a forced choice 2 horse race.
Our pension system is to a massive extent there for the better off. Until now it has been used for tax avoidance in IHT. Every year we reduce the tax paid by our better off by tens of billions in tax relief. We prioritise the payment of inheritance over the cost of care for the elderly. It's frankly outrageous.
A compassionate society needs to help those that need it. But we are still more focused on the comfortably off remaining that way than helping. We are running out of road and all of our main parties are more interested in selling their brand of fantasy than seeking to address the problems.
They deserve credit for that.
While many of our problems are down to competence over decades a high tax society is inevitable from the simple equation:
The 1945 deal+the ever increasing costs of implementation in an ageing and wealthy society=ever increasing tax bills.