"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
Ah, so this is an entirely new meaning of the word "effectively" then.
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
So, 'effectively' means: 'not at all'.
The whole point of Schengen is COMPLETE Free Movement, nothing at all stopping anyone moving from one Schengen country to another. That has been suspended, in effect, in Germany. Total Free Movement has ended. However they have not brought back the border guards and barbed wire. Yet
Great chart from the New York Times on the election:
This "recalled vote" adjustment most of the pollsters are doing this time is interesting. It pushes the numbers towards Trump on average. Strip it out and Harris looks better.
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
So, 'effectively' means: 'not at all'.
The whole point of Schengen is COMPLETE Free Movement, nothing at all stopping anyone moving from one Schengen country to another. That has been suspended, in effect, in Germany. Total Free Movement has ended. However they have not brought back the border guards and barbed wire. Yet
Sure, sure.
That's what "effectively" means. Everyone agrees with you.
Great chart from the New York Times on the election:
This "recalled vote" adjustment most of the pollsters are doing this time is interesting. It pushes the numbers towards Trump on average. Strip it out and Harris looks better.
Ah, I remember Romney fans making those adjustments back in 2012.
It's close. There probably will be a polling error. We don't know which way it will be.
I think it slightly more likely to be in Trump's favour, but I could be completely wrong.
Waymo is now providing more than 100,000 paid robotaxi rides per week in the U.S., according to a LinkedIn announcement by co-CEO Tekedra Mawakana. That’s double the 50,000 weekly paid trips the company reported in May.
I've used Waymo, and it's pretty cool - with some caveats.
Firstly, you can't say "could you drop me just after the red Ford", because there's no-one to talk to. It's dropping you where it's dropping you.
Secondly, people are fucking pigs. Ubers are generally clean, but I've gotten into a Waymo, and the previous user had just had a Macdonalds and just left trash strewn everywhere. It was a distinctly unpleasant experience.
Thirdly, right now, you need to be taking a Waymo from a very clearly defined area to another very clearly defined area.
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
So, 'effectively' means: 'not at all'.
The whole point of Schengen is COMPLETE Free Movement, nothing at all stopping anyone moving from one Schengen country to another. That has been suspended, in effect, in Germany. Total Free Movement has ended. However they have not brought back the border guards and barbed wire. Yet
Sure, sure.
That's what "effectively" means. Everyone agrees with you.
No, I'm with Leon on this point of extreme pedantry. Schengen meant no limitations to movement within the Schengen area. There now are limitations. So it's been suspended.
Great chart from the New York Times on the election:
This "recalled vote" adjustment most of the pollsters are doing this time is interesting. It pushes the numbers towards Trump on average. Strip it out and Harris looks better.
The hope would be the adjustment is a bit off for this time, as often happens as pollsters fight the last war.
It seems some people are still confused about how autonomous the Optimus bots were at the Tesla event. This clip is from another video Tesla released a while ago. It shows how the bots are controlled remotely using a haptic suit, kind of like puppets.
Also, during the event, the operators were speaking through a microphone. None of the bots were talking on their own. In short, all the hand movements and speaking were done remotely, but the walking was autonomous.
People claiming this is just how Tesla trains them, but you know....
No one knows. We don't even know if the voices were autunomous. Because the tech certainly exists to make these robots talk autonomously, it just doesn't belong to Musk
People at the event report that some of the robots had glitchy voices, would repeat phrases, then stop and say nothing like an Alexa fritzing out: which implies they really were "talking robots", unless the remote voice workers faked glitches?!
I was thinking about this last night pondering how much of the robot needs to be on the robot. When you own a low latency low orbit always on, always available internet signal, the AI can be offsite aka chatgpt or something similar. Within a few generations (of AI development) human level conversations would be perfectly doable.
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
So, 'effectively' means: 'not at all'.
The whole point of Schengen is COMPLETE Free Movement, nothing at all stopping anyone moving from one Schengen country to another. That has been suspended, in effect, in Germany. Total Free Movement has ended. However they have not brought back the border guards and barbed wire. Yet
A reminder if such be needed that progress isn't linear. You often get reverses, some of them quite prolonged.
"Poland will “temporarily suspend the right to asylum”, announced @donaldtusk in a speech outlining a tougher new migration strategy aimed at “regaining control and ensuring security".
"I will demand recognition of this decision in Europe," he added"
"🇵🇱Polish Prime Minister has announced a migration strategy for Poland:
‘One of the elements of the migration strategy will be the temporary, territorial suspension of the right to asylum and I will demand the right to recognize this decision in Europe.’
‘We will not implement European ideas if we are certain that they harm our interests. And I am talking about the migration pact’
And this is "moderate" Donald Tusk
Asylum, migration and Schengen are breaking Europe into pieces
Schengen is generally popular : take Switzerland, they narrowly voted to join about 15 years ago, but polls now show support of 70:30.
Less popular in Germany, where it has now been effectively suspended
So you now need to show your passport at a border post when you cross?
And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Which is why I said "effectively", not entirely
So, 'effectively' means: 'not at all'.
The whole point of Schengen is COMPLETE Free Movement, nothing at all stopping anyone moving from one Schengen country to another. That has been suspended, in effect, in Germany. Total Free Movement has ended. However they have not brought back the border guards and barbed wire. Yet
Sure, sure.
That's what "effectively" means. Everyone agrees with you.
The EU Commission agrees with me. They have accused Berlin of effectively suspending Schengen
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And trains now have passport inspectors on them?
Or perhaps - to quote the German government page: "travelers within the Schengen Area may face random inspections when entering Germany"?
Very very overweight and we know he liked a drink
https://x.com/AlexSalmondShow/status/1844769931919008222
Kids, put the pies down
Rather sad, he was a talented man, for all his flaws, and 69 is no age!
Like him or not - one of the Big Beasts of U.K. politics in his day.
Fair enough.
That's what "effectively" means. Everyone agrees with you.
It's close. There probably will be a polling error. We don't know which way it will be.
I think it slightly more likely to be in Trump's favour, but I could be completely wrong.
https://news.sky.com/story/former-first-minister-of-scotland-alex-salmond-dies-13232584
NEW THREAD
I did not agree with some of his politics, but he fought tenaciously for his views. His successors are/were non-entities in comparison.
(If anyone can get in quick, Wiki's still not been updated...)